Kirby on the Hot Seat
- A high-ranking official with the Chicago Police Department denied on Tuesday that she pushed for misdemeanor charges for an off-duty officer who attacked a female bartender in a beating that was caught on videotape and went viral.
Debra Kirby, who was the head of Internal Affairs Division at the time of the 2007 beating, testified she wanted to seek felony charges against the officer, Anthony Abbate.
Kirby appeared tense on the witness stand in the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse as she answered a series of questions by attorney Terry Ekl, who is representing the bartender, Karolina Obrycka, in her federal suit against Abbate and the city.
Never let them see you sweat, Deb. But then, when you've got so many skeletons foisted on you by previous administrations and you're slowly coming to the realization that the closet you're supposed to hide them in is sorely lacking in space, then you've got problems on a scale unseen since Summerdale. How many other agencies were offered the SOS investigation? And for how many years?
- Kirby and Ekl sparred over the first question, disputing whether she was called to the superintendent's "conference room" or "office" when the department brass first learned of the videotape of the beating at Jesse's Short Stop Inn on the Northwest Side.
Wow, the first question? Talk about setting the stage.
- Kirby also denied directing Internal Affairs Division investigators to take a blank misdemeanor complaint form to Obrycka's house for her to sign.
She just threw the entire Internal Affairs Division under the bus. Now the question becomes who catches the Rule 14?
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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I would love to read the transcript.
Lil debby with her law degree sweating because she has less than 50 arrest in her career.
Testifying is not to common for traffic tickets and ANOVS...
and rule 14 are only for the working police not exempt hacks
Look this guy shouldve been fired and shame on those that covered up for him. But that being said. He shouldnt have been charged with a felony. And like her or not shes on the side of P.O.s.
Didn't someone else post that 15 people were retiring from IAD in November?
Answer this question:
If IAD first charged the drunk offender with simple battery and assigned him a court date to appear in court.
Why would you need to send out a Sgt from confidential to re arrest the drunk offender for the felony Agg Battery.
Answer:
First review of video shows the offense was only a simple battery. And the ASA never approve charges.
It took the video coming out and the attempts to silence the victim to force the upgrade to felony agg battery using a Juke box upgrade.
Kirby approved the simple battery arrest and felt the heat after the video went viral.
The IAD sgt testified Kirby was aware of this. The City attorney knew of this conflict during pre trial and still went foward with this defense.
Next in court comes the New LT who was in the alley transporting the drunk without handcuffs since he was already arrested once for this offense.
Yes Kirby is covering her backside and throwing the rest of IAD under the bus...... She is a leader!
PS If you are asked a question in IAD and replied "why don't you ask me a question I can answer?" You would be charged failuer to cooperate with investigation. PER KIRBY
This is the do as I say Department.
When they get caught they push it off on the lower class workers.
I trust the Sgt. I have seen Kirby in action, remember Krupa, Seiser and Cozzi.
"She just threw the entire Internal Affairs Division under the bus..."
WEEEELLLLLL NOW!
Does that tie in with the one poster on the retirements thread who related 15 people from IAD putting their papers in?
O_o? o_O?
BWAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
*jump before you get pushed*
Run bitches run!
Kirby ought to be feeling real small and lonely right about now.
People have been saying for years she should burn at the stake for all the Coppers she fucked over...
Hiya Debbie!
Your clout ran away and hid from you, huh?
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people...
Enjoy that fast and splintery spiral banister ride into Hell...
Just wait, you have seen nothing yet. There was a time of honor on the CPD.
Deb Kirby is only tip the of the proverbial iceberg.
Sad, but true!
I think this attorney Ekl should read this SCC blog for the truth.
He will never get it from Kirby.
Who feels sorry for them rat mother fuckers from the IAD.
Haha kirby after years of you messing with officers now you are getting messed with by a great lawyer terry ekl.actually you are a lawyer also miss kirby.if you committed official misconduct thats a cpd job related felony.and that means if you are charged and convicted you lose your job and your pension.you even lose your law license.you deserve to be charged and convicted.
Hey Debbie since your husband has a big city job since the days of the daley administration and still with rahm.......do you think the mayor will stick his neck out for you or do you think he will let you sink? He may be a goof but he won't go down for you....he's a politician......remember that!
OT:
Heard a rumor that triple Jay was seen purchasing a Where's Waldo outfit for Halloween.
Hey Debbie when you get fired for official misconduct you can run to your clout in the 19th ward for another hack job.but wait you will be a convicted felon with no pension.damn you will be political baggage.I love what the lawyer is doing to you.I should call him.
This is nothing new. The brass have been throwing the rest of us under the bus since policing began. They tell us to do things that's not on paper and they can deney it and never be accountable. In the end the lowley copper is all alone. I'm sure she did say to charge him with the misd.
It isn't all that bad....you will get probation.your a female,its a non violent crime and you are a 1st time offender.however under the law you will not get to draw a city pension.bet the farm that I will monitor that matter.I love this country.
We don't ever have victims sign blank complaint forms.
Wow,
Talk about unleashing the dogs upon the unsuspecting. Just remember the light of truth surpasses all lies and darkness!
There truly are some rotten political hacks aground.
Karma beeza Bad Muthaf#cker! All the bullshit that Kirby pulled over is finally catching up to her...
Kirby on the hot seat would have been worth the trip to the Dirksen building.
I sure hope that the jury does not find the Police Department or City liable for Abbbate's disgraceful behavior at that bar, only because the CPD has already been beaten up enough already over this issue.
Abbate was off-duty at the time he chose to act that way. Let any punishment be paid out of his own pocket.
The dept did not have ANOV's in her day... Debbie time to pull the plug and try practicing Law while you still can.
Debra Kirby is in trouble at 219 S. Dearborn St US Northern District of Illinois Court room:
Debra Kirby, who was the head of Internal Affairs Division at the time of the 2007 beating, testified she wanted to seek felony charges against the officer, Anthony Abbate. (Yeah Right)
Kirby appeared tense on the witness stand in the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse as she answered a series of questions by attorney Terry Ekl, who is representing the bartender, Karolina Obrycka, in her federal suit against Abbate and the city. (her hands were moist and she was breathing heavy)
Kirby is currently the chief of the department's Bureau of Organizational Development and formerly served as general counsel under former Superintendent Jody Weis. (PAR Form- Resignation Papers)
Kirby's testimony is central to Obrycka's allegation that the department tried to cover up or minimize the 2007 beating.
(Kirby Must Go)
Kirby and Ekl sparred over the first question, disputing whether she was called to the superintendent's "conference room" or "office" when the department brass first learned of the videotape of the beating at Jesse's Short Stop Inn on the Northwest Side.
During about 40 minutes of aggressive questioning, Ekl pressed Kirby on how she described the vicious beating to officials at the Cook County state's attorney’s office. (Kirby pouped inside her underwear)
Kirby denied multiple times that she ever pushed for misdemeanor charges against Abbate and said the prosecutors rejected felony charges. (Override?)
"Absolutely, I never said that," Kirby testified. " … I was not certain where we were heading with that, but we were investigating a felony." (Sounds like a Rule 14 Violation)
In opening statements last week, Ekl maintained that Kirby soft-pedaled the attack in a phone call to a high-ranking prosecutor. (Basis for a Rule 14 Violation)
Kirby also denied directing Internal Affairs Division investigators to take a blank misdemeanor complaint form to Obrycka's house for her to sign.
(Basis for a Rule 14 Violation)
Abbate was initially charged with a misdemeanor, but the charges were upgraded to felonies after Obrycka's attorneys, concerned the beating was being covered up, released the videotape to the news media, causing a firestorm of criticism for the department.
KIRBY!...KIRBY!....KIRBY! MUST GO!
OT.
QUESTION
A 90 year lease of Navy Pier for a children's museum!
Saw a guy named Shields representing Navy Pier on tv. Is he another of Michelle Obama's cousins like the guy who's waiting to become superintendant?
awe dang,it sound like the truth is some how coming out, what goes around comes back around....besides what that fat fucker did was off duty, let that piece shit pay his litigation out his pocket he gotta a job at mccormick place now....fuck HIM!
It's disgusting how everybody is attacking Kirby. Terry Ekl is the piece of shit. This guy slithered from under a rock. He sues CPD officers on a regular basis and tries to make ALL of us look like criminals.
This guy is worth millions but in the end he's just a scheister ambulance chaser who has a spot in hell reserved for him.
what, do you want a free lesson in police work?
the designated scapegoat, i.e. the guy with the least clout will catch the rule 14
here endeth the lesson
Who catches the rule 14? Why, no one, of course. How long have you been on this job?
Strip her ass! When she returns from call back make her a LT in 005 on midnights.
Simple Question.
Kirby testifies under oath that she wanted felony from the "get go." Sgt. Stehlik testifies IMMEDIATELY after her and says she watched the video with him and agreed it was a simple battery. What is true?
Is this a Rule 14? False testimony in court?
I bet those at the Police Board would have liked the same courtesy as she will receive as they fight for their jobs.
So many years allowing the inept political hacks to rule over decent hard-working officers with immunity...what did you expect? How many times has an exempt been on the witness stand to explain their obviously deviant behavior?
This is the reason that a lot of good policeman have left this place because they refuses to play the clout game. The very same reason we have idiots in charge, because of politics.
Good for her ass. How can you be in the same elevator with one and she never looks your way or even stop her important conversation to even speak.
Ignorance. Never liked her anyway. She shouldv been out the door when the Weiss Monster went on his chopping spree. Run Lil Debbie, your cakes are hot, put you pride to the side and slide!!!!!!!!
" Melting in the kitchen ", did someone throw a bucket of water on her ala Wizard of Oz?
19th Ward hack.
Never been the police.
LT J.G. 704 & Sgt B.M. 702 are collecting pre-orders for their up and coming pay per view Rock'em Sock'em event.
kirby indeed got caught up in this bs but if you think chief rivera is any differant hes just another guy way over his head why the supt keeps him there and the other bosses is unreal however they always get the merit picks they want from confidential
tony really screwed us!
SCC, and I'm not Kirby supporter, but are we processing felony arrests/complaints for all bar fights?
I would like to see the amount of att. bat charges that were approved for a bar fight for the past 5 years. I'm glad that this dirtbag is fired and was charged with att. battery, but the responding and investigating police officers conducted their investigation as we do all others (bar fights) - misdemeanor charges. We had a victim with a potential broken noise and was told that charges might be upgraded at the misdemeanor preliminary hearing (victim needed to bring medical documents). But, as here, when a victim is standing there talking to you, the last idea of charging that the police officer's mind is felony charges. His charges were appropriately upgraded.
Break out the ILCS - look out jack-rocks offenders, you're going to lock up tonight.
Did anyone see the CBS story? During that story the reporter says that one of the brutha/brothers was arrested on a gun charge TO WHICH HE SAID HE CARRIES FOR PROTECTION BECAUSE ITS A DANGEROUS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I believe she has been been cought lying before, but since she is a boss, she's protected.
Why does not someone like the ACLU contact the other PO's she framed and start a class action suit aginst her. She is a political hack and has ruined many a good coppers lives, while protecting the guilty.
Some of you make up your mind. Some days you bash iad when they try screw over coppers. Which happens quite often. Yet you are on here defending them now. This should not have been a felony period. Fire the guy give him a simple battery conviction and move on. Like her or not kirby did the right thing until the heat came down on this and others got involved and pushed for a felony.
Abbate was off-duty at the time he chose to act that way. Let any punishment be paid out of his own pocket.
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It is going to be difficult for the city to make a credible argument that his off duty conduct does not matter given the repeated statements of all kinds of police departments that police officers on "on duty" 24/7. You just can't have it both ways. They may well try and make that argument but given how the department (or at least some members of the department) appear to have gone out of its way to make special dispensations for him, it will be hard to convince a jury.
They should just settle. the quicker they settle the less damage - both financially and politically.
How does Mike Mette and Cozzi get totally fucked and this fat ass piece of shit only gets probation ?
Talk about major cover-ups, this week marks one year that a P.O. was battered by CFD Captain Altman and the P.O. is still off and the clout heavy Captain still has his job with no discipline served!
Remember following the Fire Truck Too Close??? Looks like you might get Burned! Lol
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Kirby got convicted of covering something up and she had to pay punitive damages??? OMG, I'd pee myself!
I still don't see the aggravating factor in this incident. Karma is a bitch, Deb.
Hey Debbie when you get fired for official misconduct you can run to your clout in the 19th ward for another hack job.but wait you will be a convicted felon with no pension.damn you will be political baggage.I love what the lawyer is doing to you.I should call him.
10/31/2012 01:16:00 AM
I pray it all happens. No one is more deserving than Kirby to have a fall from grace. She is an arrogant, pompous and MEAN person who is very deserving because of all the rotten, underhanded things she has done.
I have no sympathy for anyone who works in IAD. They are only there to further their careers by screwing the police.
If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Nothing will happen to her! The city will pay and the blame will be put on the lowly P.O.'s
ANY RELATION?
Maureen Ward Kirby is “Qualified” for the office of Circuit Court Judge. Ms. Kirby was admitted to practice law in Illinois in 1989 and has practiced full-time for approximately 12 years. Ms. Kirby is highly regarded by her peers for her work ethic and legal ability. Ms. Kirby possesses all the requisite qualifications to serve as a Circuit Court Judge.
The Chicago Council of Lawyers says:
Maureen Ward-Kirby has been a lawyer since 1989 and was appointed to the bench by
the Illinois Supreme Court in October 2007. Judge Ward-Kirby currently sits in the First
Municipal District, presiding in the Traffic Court. Before taking the bench, she was a partner with the firm of Bell Boyd & Lloyd. She is considered to have good legal ability with an excellent demeanor. She is praised for her courtroom management skills. As a lawyer, she was involved in complex litigation matters and was considered to be a very good practitioner. The Council finds her Qualified for the Circuit Court.
WOW, who would have ever thought one "Drunk" could have brought this many problems ? You think the whole mess would be over with by now. It keeps getting bigger and bigger. We can all laugh and poke fun at it. Police are great at laughing at other people's mistakes. Just remember this is putting us all in a negative light. One that "most" of the hard working men and women of the CPD do not deserve.
agg.battery? way overcharged. fired? yes! what were the agg. factors? i ve had victim s slashed with knives and heads busted open with bottles...only to get misdemeanor charges. they ve played the bar tape more than the zeputer film
If you follow the letter of the law every battery on the public way, retail store, bar, public transportation, is a felony no matter how minor the injuries are. If you call felony review to try and get those charges they will laugh at you every time.
Having said that, this POS decerved the felony charge. I'm not surprised that the initial reaction was to charge with simple battery. If this exact incident happened in a residence there is no way you would get felony charges.
I can say with absolute certainty that if he was a civilian he would be charged with a simple battery all day long. Felony review would never approve felony.
The issue is, should an off duty police officer be treated different? I believe most juries would think so.
You can bet she or any other boss will never be hit with a Rule 14 violation. The brass take care of each other and they are never on paper, the record or accountable and they know it. They may tell us to do something, but it's not on paper and they can deney it all day. It's a great situation for the bosses. It's always a win win for them. If things go well they look great and if they don't well, of course they knew nothing.
You’re not going to see the City or the department drop the hammer on Kirby from the inside. It has to come from the outside. Every internal incident that threatened her career was met by Kirby with her doing whatever she needed to do (violate dept. policy, use political influence, etc.) so she wouldn’t look like an ass.
Any outside agency that investigates how she manipulated / influenced the IAD investigation with SOS or cases with Krupa, Matlob, Cozzi, Seisser and dozens of other coppers she has done wrong, will see a common pattern that she does whatever she wants without any fear of repercussions internally.
IAD is one of the most politically corrupt units on the department. Kirby surrounded herself with henchmen that will do ANYTHING for her at her beckoning. While she may deny direct involvement or culpability of tampering with investigations, people like Barbara West, Dave Naleway, Terrance Cochran and Tom Finnelly would do whatever she asked of them, and they’d take the hit if anything heavy came down!
Kirby and her malfeasant IAD crew are way past worrying about catching a Rule 14 violation. Once the cat is out of the bag, and these investigations are reopened and investigated by an outside source, you’re going to see official misconduct arrests and hopefully some good coppers that were done wrong, reinstated.
Until then, the vicious circle will continue and other good coppers are going to be victimized by this insane woman and the people that follow her. We’re all expendable assets to her. Any one of us could be her next target, so be careful out there.
Anonymous said...
Who feels sorry for them rat mother fuckers from the IAD.
10/31/2012 12:43:00 AM
Another genius heard from...
10/31/2012 12:30:00 AM
Bingo.
Terry Ekl couldve made Johnny Cochran sweat! This guy is a shark in the BEST WAY!! It was better still when Kirby and the IAD Sgt contradicted each other. It blows how this makes us look, but if brass is getting the heat, I LOVE IT.
Look this guy shouldve been fired and shame on those that covered up for him. But that being said. He shouldnt have been charged with a felony. And like her or not shes on the side of P.O.s.
10/31/2012 12:18:00 AM
Is hair gel seeping into your miniscule brain? When exactly was IAD on the side of P.O.s? Their job is to get scalps, they dont care how they get them or the lies they have to manufacture. Wake the F' up!!!!
Cop was off duty, but the cover up team were acting under the cover of CPD that makes the Dept liable. That should be easy to understand.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-abbate-bar-beating-trial-1031-20121031,0,5384155.story
After the video played, they saw that the bartender did not suffer great bodily harm or permanent disability, and so it was not an aggravated battery. that charge, aggravated battery on a public way, is NEVER used for any other citizens of society. it was only used for abbate, sort of a back-door way of getting a felony charge on him because he was a cop.
If the Kirby and the CPD brass had the balls to stand by the decision that it was just a misdemeanor and explain why they thought it was a misdemeanor, the storm would have blown over and been forgotten about until the next big news story came along. but Kirby and the brass went along with the ridiculous felony upgrade and now this charade has carried on for how many years?
The City should point out how many people who fight on the public way or in a bar are actually charged with this felony. It NEVER happens, except when the offender is a cop, which is NOT one of the elements of the offense.
That felony is a bullsh*t charge.
And for Abbate, for a guy twice the bartender's size, he couldn't even punch her hard enough to make her go to the hospital that night. the girl finished working her shift.
The department brass sucks, but CPD doesn't need any more black eyes.
I hope Abbate loses his house to this girl for all the disgrace he caused to the CPD, but CPD should not have to pay for his behavior, despite the selective memories of IAD Kirby and ASA's office.
So next time, you get a bar fight arrest caught on video, try to call Felony Review to approve that felony charge, and hear them laugh on the phone. ask them why they approve the charge for cops but not for anyone else?
"Abbate was off-duty at the time he chose to act that way. Let any punishment be paid out of his own pocket."
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Was he off duty when he made the threats?
Did he call from Department premises?
Did anyone assist him on city time, or using city resources, CPD or otherwise?
Abbate's toast.
So's the city.
Throw them all under the bus.I wouldn't piss on any of them to here the splash.
Do I know/realize that cops fuck up and there's a need for iad? Yes.
But I've seen far too many cops fucked over by slipshod investigations run by both ops and iad.
So Kirby can get fucked.
Anonymous said...
Just wait, you have seen nothing yet. There was a time of honor on the CPD.
Deb Kirby is only tip the of the proverbial iceberg.
Sad, but true!
10/31/2012 12:36:00 AM
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Don't get too excited.
If this plays out like most other dramas involving gold star Bossholes, this whole ugly incident will be quietly swept under the Clout Carpet.
The city will cut a big, fat check while Kirby is quietly shifted to some other hidden spot.
Sorry to burst the conspiracy theory about the 15 people leaving IAD because of this case, but it has nothing to do with this case at all. All had over 25 years and were probably more concerned about getting a pension than a fat ass drunken goof.
The Emperors New Clothes. Just where did your clout go now.
Hey Deb you're the best. So was your Mom, Pat, and your UNCLE Jack Hurley. Remember yrs ago BSing with Jack till 0500 over a cold one.Laughed till our brides came out and stayed out with us laughing at off the wall stuff. Things work out. Lots of these young guys don't understand. Say Hi sometime. TC
Speaking of corruption by IAD and Deb Kirby take a reead of this:
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2006cv01309/196324/152
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news&id=4555439
I just saw elsewhere "Deb Kirby, Chief, Office of International Relations for the Chicago Police Department."
Isn't there a less expensive way to trade shoulder patches?
Another lawsuit filed against Deb Kirby that will cost the City of Chicago plenty:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2012cv02353/267241/
07:07 hes not paying , they are suing the city and CPD for a coverup, thats where the money is
Let this whole thing fly, let it blow and spout and slop mop water all over the place.
The s__t will just run back UPHILL, from "high" to "higher" towards McAbsent and "O Most Exalted High Rahm."
BoyistheMayortalkingfastlatelyitslikehesgonnaexplode.
One good thing will come out of this. We now know the ASA office and felony review are aware of the aggravted battery charge on a publicway and it should be easy for us to upgrade a simple battery that occurs on a publicway to a felony. NOT, they only reached to get Abbate. Everyday felony review rejects cases that are far worse than that
A bit off topic here but can anyone imagine what would happen if the entire city and a few of the collar communities had no electricity? I'm thinking we would have a free fire zone that would make the landing at Normandy look like a cake walk.
Anonymous said...
Some of you make up your mind. Some days you bash iad when they try screw over coppers. Which happens quite often. Yet you are on here defending them now. This should not have been a felony period. Fire the guy give him a simple battery conviction and move on. Like her or not kirby did the right thing until the heat came down on this and others got involved and pushed for a felony.
10/31/2012 09:02:00 AM
Hey my are complaining about the coverup of CORRUPT CRIMINALS on the CPD!
This stuff makes the entire CPD look crooked from top to bottom. Covering up huge criminal scandals and actions of crooked CLOUTED coppers makes the majority of us look like criminals too.
IAD ALWAYS covers for the CLOUTED!
IAD will hangout an UNCLOUTED coppers in a NYC second.
Yep and then there is this --
Preckwinkle drops bullet tax, keeps gun tax.
Oh is she not merciful?
DO YOU GET IT YET?
Punish everyone except the criminals!
The gangs are too strong and the average taxpayer is weak.
The average taxpayer will just sit and let them get away with tax after tax, fine, and fee increase. It's easy pickings.
If we were to stop the shootings how can the politico's play the victims using the shootings as a tool to create more cash flow to the city?
And if it isn't bad enough the money from this new tax will not go into crime prevention, which proves my point that the cities political apparatus is not at all interested in reducing the violence. The city instead wants to monetize the violence, possibly privatizing it at a later point in time, making it a business to outsource to some clouted friends with a 100 year no-bid contract.
This tax will be use to provide emergency health care services to the thugs. There's no intention to put more boots on the ground and attack the real problems with this money.
The shootings are a money making opportunity that should not be wasted in these peoples minds.
Just put a fancy marketing label on the process that disguises the true intent. Call it "Broken Windows II" where when you are either unwilling or unable to quell the violence you write parking tickets and city ordinance violations, tow peoples cars in front of their own homes and hold them ransom in the auto pound, damaging them and telling them to get f--ked instead. YES this is the city services our tax dollars are going towards -- ain't it fantabulous?
Close down the jails and let them all out. The violence will soar even more and then we can demand even more taxes, fines, fees. Take away peoples right to bear arms as that will increase the fear factor too places the citizens at the gangs mercy.
When will the murderer(s) of PO Jose Vazquez be brought to justice?
If you got the CLOUT you can do anything and stay on the job!
Triple Jay still up in the polls?
Your tax dollars at work?
What are we paying taxes for?
Ever hear the phrase "taxation without representation"
Think about it.
ads orders officers to take a blank complaint form
who administered oath for the charge of -----------
not to smart
* * * LUNAR ALERT * * *
It is FULL MOON and HALLOWEEN at HIGH TIDE in CRAZYVILLE.
Seriously, it is Stupid Night anyway, and we have just suffered an enormous disaster. This affects everyone somehow -- probably those with no awareness or insight, with the least to lose and the most bigscreens and 40s -- are paradoxically affected the most and start "acting out" real bad.
BE EXTRA CALM AND CAREFUL EVERYBODY.
...and thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by Sandy. A family member went through the 1938 hurricane, and says that this is just as bad if not worse.
This thing hit a low pressure of 27.84" when it came ashore. That is just about a world record for the worst storm you could imagine.
1 out of 5 cell phone towers is down over 10 states (and I know some of the nicest guys around who are gonna be humping 100 pounds of stuff waaay up there in the winter wind as night falls, statistics say that this is actually the most dangerous job in the US right now)...the New York Stock Exchange is running on generator trucks, and is the only building with lights on in a 2-mile radius...
...the utility crews are 1000 miles from their homes and families, doing 18 hours, crashing in the truck sometimes (I remember the crews from Michigan I talked to who came down and helped us here a couple of years ago -- if this country has any backbone left, people like them are a big part)...
...and as always there are helpless sick and elderly alone in flooded-out, half-wrecked houses, too polite to make a fuss...
Stay safe. God bless.
Maybe IAD will become the transparent seeker of truth, instead of the protector of the CLOUTED and CORRUPT!
Who am I kidding?
I thought a Rule 14 violation wa an immediate termination offense?
Will Deb Kirby be forced out now?
What about what she did to Seiser and Krupa?
Coppers in your corner said...
You’re not going to see the City or the department drop the hammer on Kirby from the inside. It has to come from the outside. Every internal incident that threatened her career was met by Kirby with her doing whatever she needed to do (violate dept. policy, use political influence, etc.) so she wouldn’t look like an ass.
Any outside agency that investigates how she manipulated / influenced the IAD investigation with SOS or cases with Krupa, Matlob, Cozzi, Seisser and dozens of other coppers she has done wrong, will see a common pattern that she does whatever she wants without any fear of repercussions internally.
IAD is one of the most politically corrupt units on the department. Kirby surrounded herself with henchmen that will do ANYTHING for her at her beckoning. While she may deny direct involvement or culpability of tampering with investigations, people like Barbara West, Dave Naleway, Terrance Cochran and Tom Finnelly would do whatever she asked of them, and they’d take the hit if anything heavy came down!
Kirby and her malfeasant IAD crew are way past worrying about catching a Rule 14 violation. Once the cat is out of the bag, and these investigations are reopened and investigated by an outside source, you’re going to see official misconduct arrests and hopefully some good coppers that were done wrong, reinstated.
Until then, the vicious circle will continue and other good coppers are going to be victimized by this insane woman and the people that follow her. We’re all expendable assets to her. Any one of us could be her next target, so be careful out there.
10/31/2012 12:24:00 PM
The Feds need to step in and audit IAD. This shit has been going on for over 25 years and needs to stop.
I know several PO's that were terminated via IAD corruption, while they covered up the misdeeds of others involved.
IAD functions exclusively through phone calls and CLOUT!
Nothing happens unless it is approved from the top. Legit investigators are coerced or removed from cases that concern politically heavy coppers.
IAD has always been a make you or break you assignment. Do what you are told to do and you magically move up the ranks while burying all the scandals.
Was Juan Rivera at IAD when this mess broke?
Anonymous said...
Some of you make up your mind. Some days you bash iad when they try screw over coppers. Which happens quite often. Yet you are on here defending them now. This should not have been a felony period. Fire the guy give him a simple battery conviction and move on. Like her or not kirby did the right thing until the heat came down on this and others got involved and pushed for a felony.
10/31/2012 09:02:00 AM
Well said.
Abbate should have been fired years ago, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a simple battery. There were no injuries, there were no aggravating factors.
She GONE!!!! So SUPT for Toy!!!
Ha Ha Karma a Bitch
Chief Rivera is nervous
Let this be a lesson. I'm not a cop just an old jaded building inspector. Doing something wrong or questionable whether it's for your boss or a politician or whomever can come back and bite your ass. Everyone retiring is sweating, kirby is sweating. Her cover is ready to cut ties altogether maybe even blago her if necessary. Keep your integrity, you may not advance, you may be transferred, but you wont lose sleep and you'll make your pension. If you get pressured bad enough be the FIRST one to the feds with your lawyer.
Wow. She was so quick to fuck over the Jefferson Tap boys (and I'm sure everyone remembers how they beat that trumped up BS case over at 26th & Cal, after several of them had exhausted about all of their savings, to say nothing of what they had contributed to their pensions that they had to pull out for legal fees), but wanted to tap-dance on Abbate? Well, I would guess a resignation/retirement for old Red is in order after this case gets resolved through the civil courts.
He shouldnt have been charged with a felony. And like her or not shes on the side of P.O.s.
OH, BULLSHIT! If the Sgt. Howard can get his career shitcanned after slapping a POS over on 79th st., then HELL YES, Abbate boy sure as all hell can catch a agg. batt. case as well. Who's the bigger criminal? It sure as hell wasn't Sgt. Howard.
If she gets tagged with a felony. GREAT. Save the pension money for those who worked for it.
She can go hawk traffic tickets at traffic court. Maybe not, if they dis-bar her for the felony as well.
Next case.
Does anyone know what in the fuck it is about this fat jagoff Abbate that everyone is covering for him? Does he know where Hoffa is buried or what? What is the deal? It makes no sense.
This is a total circus, from the drunk, to the illegal polish gal who totally missed all the drunk's punches, to all those who scrambled around when they found out about the video, to those who tried to cover for this moron, to money-grabbing defense attorneys. I'm tired of it all, yawn.
Stehlik was a mope at Area One too
Here's hoping for a huge payday for the victim. The more she gets paid, the more seriously Rahm will take police corruption, coverups and clout.
All these clout fucks have done is to destroy the CPD.
When the city allows gold stars to act with impunity scandals arise, coverups, public corruption and criminals within the ranks thrive.
If they are serious about stopping the corruption they need to rid IAD of the political hacks, mob connected coppers and other crooks.
It's time to make an example for the bosses!
Indict Deb Kirby for official misconduct!
I hope Terry Ekl subpoenaed Abbate's phone records, MUDD/TOLL.
We deserve to know who the shitbags are that we worked so feverishly to coverup his despicable behavior.
Anyone who covered for this savage should get fired!
Cline got fired over this but Kirby stayed?
Shows who has the real clout.
Can you imagine how bad the job would have gotten if Kirby revived the helm?
Was Juan Rivera at IAD when this mess broke?
10/31/2012 04:01:00 PM
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Not even close to being there.
Once again the Rules and Regulations only apply to the unclouted PO's.
I bet the 19th Ward is proud!
They produced another corrupt political hack.
Time for Kirby to be " Kicked Upstsirs," as her punishment
Rahm complains about the cost of misconduct, but leaves those most responsible for covering it up in place.
Just more smoke and mirrors for the ignorant taxpayers.
Time for real reform, clean house, save the taxpayers!
Strip her ass! When she returns from call back make her a LT in 005 on midnights.
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Like midnights in 005 isn't bad enough. Cut em some slack.
Regardless of what you say, with a few exceptions, you gotta be a total stroke to get fired by the police board.
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The Feds need to step in and audit IAD. This shit has been going on for over 25 years and needs to stop.
I know several PO's that were terminated via IAD corruption, while they covered up the misdeeds of others involved.
IAD functions exclusively through phone calls and CLOUT!
Nothing happens unless it is approved from the top. Legit investigators are coerced or removed from cases that concern politically heavy coppers.
IAD has always been a make you or break you assignment. Do what you are told to do and you magically move up the ranks while burying all the scandals.
10/31/2012 04:00:00 PM
What happened to the IAD investigator (police agent I believe) who was discovered to be living in Park Ridge? Initials AW. Did he resign, retire. get fired?
If resign or retire he would have left under investigation, that prohibits concealed carry and any privileges an officer who retired in good standing would be entitled to.
The only justice will be in that courtroom. Nothing will happen to Kirby within the CPD. A corrupt department
that protects the clouted and frames the innocent to cover for the political hacks . This job is notorious for that.
Off Topic:
http://www.swchicagopost.com/2012/10/judge-for-yourself-on-retention.html
Could not agree more about an outside fed audit of Kirby and her criminal activity. Any outside review the Krupa case would turn up evidence of a cover up and deposing members of the police board who were sitting at the time will reveal they got the word to fire him, this can be proved and know it for a fact. The Seiser case is a little different , seems she could not have him terminated but did order him arrested, at least he is trying to seek justice, unlikely though in cook county but that case is federal, maybe a chance but never underestimate the reach of the Chicago machine. The police discipline is completely broken, good officers screwed for no reason, a few bad cops but no consequences for them.
This is nothing new. The brass have been throwing the rest of us under the bus since policing began. They tell us to do things that's not on paper and they can deny it and never be accountable. In the end the lowley copper is all alone. I'm sure she did say to charge him with the misd.
10/31/2012 01:17:00 AM
If you are not smart enough to request the order in writing, then you are a moron.
Proof of that concept?
Remember back in '09 in 018/001 that Revenue stroke on a Bike went all over Beat 0122 writing every M Plate or U Plate that was Parked 'Illegally?" Heard that he also ticketed a few State and County Squads around the Thompson Center for Bus Stop and Tow Zones.
He's still on the Job...because he kept a copy of the GO that instructed Revenue Writers to Enforce ALL Vehicles regardless of Plate Type.
Oh yea....he's the 'guy on a bike' that posts here.
During about 40 minutes of aggressive questioning, Ekl pressed Kirby on how she described the vicious beating to officials at the Cook County state's attorney’s office. (Kirby pouped inside her underwear)
40 min? That's it? I spent 50 min getting grilled and made to look like a criminal for giving a "slow down" on the radio.
Why do posters keep looking for the FEDS? Just like they cut the Blago wiretap short-- do you really think that they will harm their own self interest? Some will never get it.
So a drug dog hits on my duffel bag and I refuse to show anyone what's inside and then run out the door with the bag in question and everyone else is shady?? Please. Really? If I had nothing to hide and a dog hit on my bag, I would immediately dump that shit in the floor because I would know that contraband wasn't in there.
I agree Eckl is scum and should burn in hell
It's disgusting how everybody is attacking Kirby. Terry Ekl is the piece of shit. This guy slithered from under a rock. He sues CPD officers on a regular basis and tries to make ALL of us look like criminals.
This guy is worth millions but in the end he's just a scheister ambulance chaser who has a spot in hell reserved for him.
10/31/2012 07:23:00 AM
Speak for yourself douchebag!! Ekl defended me and a few others in a Federal Lawsuit because the Corp Council were too chicken shit to do it themselves. Ekl did such a great job this BS case didnt even make it to a jury. I dont care what he's doing now, HE defended us brilliantly and I'll never say a bad word about him.
Was Juan Rivera at IAD when this mess broke?
10/31/2012 04:01:00 PM
Negative. Rivera was still a district commander when this occurred. He didn't get the IAD until 2010 or so.
Anonymous said...
Strip her ass! When she returns from call back make her a LT in 005 on midnights.
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Like midnights in 005 isn't bad enough. Cut em some slack.
10/31/2012 07:33:00 PM
Actually midnight's is not too bad now in 005. Its the "B" Lt on days you have to watch out for.
Tony---I hope you read this and i hope you realize that you are a waste of a life. An honorable person would have fallen on his sword (figuratively). BUT NO, I have to see that stupid mug on your face as you try and weasel your way out of this. How many lives and careers will you have destroyed because you can't control your most basic instincts?
You are an asshole, but you, with your warped sense of ego, will take that as a compliment
When will the murderer(s) of PO Jose Vazquez be brought to justice? 10/31/2012 03:29:00
As soon as they're caught
What happened to the IAD investigator (police agent I believe) who was discovered to be living in Park Ridge? Initials AW. Did he resign, retire. get fired?
If resign or retire he would have left under investigation, that prohibits concealed carry and any privileges an officer who retired in good standing would be entitled to.
10/31/2012 07:40:00 PM
I live on the same block where this IAD guy still lives. I have see him there for the past 9 years.
His own IAD guys screwed with him because Kirby ordered it. And you wonder why she is still in charge. Don't trust my word, look him up and ring his door bell.
I'll bet you he will be the next one to sue her for this crap.
Is this really the "hot seat?" What's ever going to happen to her except a little stress(if any)on the stand? Many of us are on the stand often on real cases and much more stressfull. So I'm sure she has no worries. This is nothing for her. She's a boss and knows nothing will ever come of it. Bosses are taught that in boss school 101.
I am confused, someone help me.
If an officer of any rank requested felony charges for Abbate, and it was denied by ASA, that should be documented in CPD reports. Felony Review ASA (name) denied felony charges on (date) at (time).
Is Ekl trying to say Kirby "ordered" misdemeanor charges and that is why no officer called ASA felony review to request felony charges for Abbate?
And - I dig that Joe S. contradicted Kirby. He has always been a scaredy cat, so you know this "barbara" is telling the truth.
The IAD Sgt. Is guzzling Maalox by the case after he went under oath and contradicted ASA Kirby. Get you blue pants on Sergeant and tell Momma your on the mids for the rest of you life?
Im the same confused post above and just read the most recent article on this trial. I get it now. This was a fkd up sloppy investigation all around.
Kirby can't remember who she talked to at ASA office. Stehlik went to the chicks house on his own with misdemeanor complaint in hand. Bilyk can't remember who eventually approved the never used before felony charge.
Brilliant. Fire them all.
Hey Deb, You see that flash of light in the corner of your eye? That's your career dissipation light and It just went into high gear.
Couldn't help myself..........karma is a bitch
Anonymous said...
Off Topic:
http://www.swchicagopost.com/2012/10/judge-for-yourself-on-retention.html
10/31/2012 07:52:00 PM
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Just do what I do -
VOTE NO to all the judges.
You actually have to vote NO cause if you just skip over them they stay in office!
Used to work in 121 back in the day, and to the poster who mentioned the drug dog, bag, and running out the door..... You forgot the part about a "white powder like substance" on the fleeing officers trousers and how Deb didnt want any one to keep a constant eyeball on him while she held court I the hallway. Nor were the trousers seized. That was at the start of her rein of terror.
Nothing to see here move along
Squad.. Event Number please.
Happily retired out of state, stay safe
Shame! Kirby daily risked her very life driving the Det. Log. to 11th & State! All by herself! While others did actual police work, she stayed inside at Area#2 and studied to be a lawyer risking eye strain and a sore butt. The entire 19th Ward is proud of her accomplishments as a working police officer!
Steve Georges Is eying her position.
Hey SCC,
Talk about major cover-ups, this week marks one year that a P.O. was battered by CFD Captain Altman and the P.O. is still off and the clout heavy Captain still has his job with no discipline served!
How about a little follow up on this one..............
Please DONT even put Juan Riveras name anywhere close to Kirby's name.... Juan is a prince and the real police.. Had NOTHING to do with this circus. The man should have been the Sup. Yes.... Thats how good he is and Yes..I said that.
Terry Ekyl is scum of the earth. Talks out of his ass. Thinks he's a real tough guy. He's a Scumbag lawyer.
Wait til the Vanecko/Koschman lawsuit, you haven't seen anything yet.
Anonymous said...
So a drug dog hits on my duffel bag and I refuse to show anyone what's inside and then run out the door with the bag in question and everyone else is shady?? Please. Really? If I had nothing to hide and a dog hit on my bag, I would immediately dump that shit in the floor because I would know that contraband wasn't in there.
10/31/2012 08:37:00 PM
Really? You read a misleading news article and make your conclusion on that? You’re either a Kirby sympathizer or one of her hacks. If you are one of her IAD goofs, then you’ve already read the reports in the CR files and know how messed up both of those cases were. If not, as usual, your just another chump blowing smoke. If you have an axe to grind with a fellow copper, take it up with them in person instead of hiding in the blog – coward. Until then, if you can’t back up what you post, STFU.
So a drug dog hits on my duffel bag and I refuse to show anyone what's inside and then run out the door with the bag in question and everyone else is shady?? Please. Really? If I had nothing to hide and a dog hit on my bag, I would immediately dump that shit in the floor because I would know that contraband wasn't in there.
10/31/2012 08:37:00 PM
Don't bother talking common sense. I have a good idea of the person who wrote that. He named himself as a "victim". That has been a re-occurring thing I've seen over the years: absolute scumbags on this job who blame everyone but themselves for their own actions. And as for Cozzi, IAD had NOTHING to do with any part of that, so you can cross that one off the list too.
Now then, please, tell us all the many, many innocent coppers framed by Kirby and her evil band of sycophants...
Personally, I don't think this Abbatte thing is a cover up at the higher level, it's just incompetence. Sgt. Stehlik told the truth. Kirby forgot to remember. Or something.
06:53 Cant still be off, only get a year on IOD and no way he is off for a year for being pushed by someone Call this BS, but would like to hear the follow up on Altman
Both the CPD report and the ASA felony review reports would hve the name of the ASA that rejected the charges. Both CPD and ASA document all requests for felony charges by the felony review unit. My guess is that someone or everyone really doesnt want to find out
Both the CPD report and the ASA felony review reports would hve the name of the ASA that rejected the charges. Both CPD and ASA document all requests for felony charges by the felony review unit. My guess is that someone or everyone really doesnt want to find out
11/01/2012 02:13:00 PM
There is no box in a CPD report for a felony review denial.
Anonymous said...
It's disgusting how everybody is attacking Kirby. Terry Ekl is the piece of shit. This guy slithered from under a rock. He sues CPD officers on a regular basis and tries to make ALL of us look like criminals.
This guy is worth millions but in the end he's just a scheister ambulance chaser who has a spot in hell reserved for him.
10/31/2012 07:23:00 AM
Speak for yourself douchebag!! Ekl defended me and a few others in a Federal Lawsuit because the Corp Council were too chicken shit to do it themselves. Ekl did such a great job this BS case didnt even make it to a jury. I dont care what he's doing now, HE defended us brilliantly and I'll never say a bad word about him.
10/31/2012 09:12:00 PM
NO Dickhead you speak for yourself. Eckl is fucking scum. Now, being scum is probably a desirable trait for a lawyer, but he is SCUM nonetheless. He sued a thousand coppers on bullshit cases but because he took a farm out job form Corp Con. he's great guy? Please, he only took your case because the the shitbag attorney stole that client from Eckl.
what, do you want a free lesson in police work?
the designated scapegoat, i.e. the guy with the least clout will catch the rule 14
here endeth the lesson
10/31/2012 07:42:00 AM
I think I'm in love with you.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
Wait til the Vanecko/Koschman lawsuit, you haven't seen anything yet.
11/01/2012 11:01:00 AM
Hey Stupid, already passed the statue of limitations for a law suit. Go back in your parents basement.
I live on the same block where this IAD guy still lives. I have see him there for the past 9 years.
His own IAD guys screwed with him because Kirby ordered it. And you wonder why she is still in charge. Don't trust my word, look him up and ring his door bell.
I'll bet you he will be the next one to sue her for this crap.
10/31/2012 11:16:00 PM
Nice try Al. You moved back into your apartment after you got caught. I don't blame you for trying, and it will be an interesting test case. If you win, it means all one needs to do is have a mailing address in the City. Sounds good to me.
Also, YOUR own IAD guys followed up on an allegation made by someone working in your very office on the 5th floor. Another one who always points the finger at everyone but himself.
Anonymous said...
Both the CPD report and the ASA felony review reports would hve the name of the ASA that rejected the charges. Both CPD and ASA document all requests for felony charges by the felony review unit. My guess is that someone or everyone really doesnt want to find out
11/01/2012 02:13:00 PM
There is no box in a CPD report for a felony review denial.
11/01/2012 03:06:00 PM
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Yes, yes there is.
NO Dickhead you speak for yourself. Eckl is fucking scum. Now, being scum is probably a desirable trait for a lawyer, but he is SCUM nonetheless. He sued a thousand coppers on bullshit cases but because he took a farm out job form Corp Con. he's great guy? Please, he only took your case because the the shitbag attorney stole that client from Eckl.
11/01/2012 03:19:00 PM
HAHA! you sound like someone who stepped on his dick and got sued. The difference is fuckhead, WE were innocent and the case didnt make it to jury. You obviously were guilty as fuck, got caught, and is now bitter. Go cry somewhere else, and stop fucking up stupid.
Anonymous said...
Both the CPD report and the ASA felony review reports would hve the name of the ASA that rejected the charges. Both CPD and ASA document all requests for felony charges by the felony review unit. My guess is that someone or everyone really doesnt want to find out
11/01/2012 02:13:00 PM
There is no box in a CPD report for a felony review denial.
11/01/2012 03:06:00 PM
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Yes, yes there is.
11/01/2012 10:52:00 PM
No there is not.
Step 1.) Make an arrest.
Step 2) Actually read the boxes.
Come, come. This is one of the last jobs where a "functioning alcoholic" can not just gain and maintain employment, but also climb very high in rank. Belmont X/O and a list as long as some1 can write backs it up.
Drink up, Iron Mike!
Anonymous said...
Both the CPD report and the ASA felony review reports would hve the name of the ASA that rejected the charges. Both CPD and ASA document all requests for felony charges by the felony review unit. My guess is that someone or everyone really doesnt want to find out
11/01/2012 02:13:00 PM
There is no box in a CPD report for a felony review denial.
11/01/2012 03:06:00 PM
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Yes, yes there is.
11/01/2012 10:52:00 PM
No there is not.
Step 1.) Make an arrest.
Step 2) Actually read the boxes.
11/02/2012 11:04:00 AM
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Back at ya. There is a box where you select approved/denied and the date/time of the approval/denial along with the ASAs name. Take your own advice.
"...she's on the side of P.O.s..."
Please report to Random Drug Testing, 3510 S. Michigan Ave.
Is that the "Seiser Runs It" Seiser?
"...I used to work 121 back in the day..."
Apology NOT accepted.
The statute of limitations may not apply in the Koschmann case.
If there is evidence of an on-going conspiracy, the statute does not apply. By re-opening the case, they could have started the clock all over again.
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