Remember, "For the Children"
Or is it "For Your Safety?" We can't keep all of Rahm's (and Daley's) bullshit straight.
- They were installed at dangerous intersections to reduce the number of crashes, but New Jersey's controversial red-light cameras have actually seen an increase in collisions, according to a new state report.
A New Jersey Department of Transportation analysis of two dozen intersections that have had the automated traffic cops for at least a year found that accidents — particularly rear-end crashes — have increased, and the collisions are more costly.
Rear-end collisions at the intersections were up by 20 percent, from 286 the year before the cameras were installed to 343 the year after, according to the report made public yesterday. Overall, accidents increased from 577 crashes the year before the cameras were installed to 582 the year after. The "crash severity cost" — which takes into account vehicle and property damage, emergency response and medical care — increased by nearly $1.2 million after the cameras were installed.
But of course, we'll hear that things are different in Illinois in general, Chicago specifically. Just like the anti-gun people claiming 49 other states have to be wrong and only Illinois is getting it correct, while the streets of Chicago run red with blood.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Or is it "For Your Safety?" We can't keep all of Rahm's (and Daley's) bullshit straight.
Okay cool SCC, I thought I was the only one with this particular malady. Throw in our useless media and your head is spinning in order to track the flying shit.
Children don't drive...so they're still safe!
rb
http://www.nophoto.com/
Two-hundred and eighty-eight million people are wrong. The twelve million people in Illinois are right. How dare you question the aristocrat's.
This-is-not-a-zero-sum-game
This city,county,state does everything ass-backwards. Imagine if we had the lowest taxes in the country. If we had say 5% sales tax, I'd bet sales would more than double thus putting tax dollars collected higher than where we are at 10% you pin-heads. Until then, I'll continue to purchase as much as I can in Indiana and on-line.
As long as our corrupt greedy politicians can get money out of this fiasco it will go on and on. It is all about money. The Evil One still has to get the state law changed about "children being present" when the speed cameras catch someone going over the limit.
I just got drunk, ate a pizza, smoked a blunt, watched some porn, and it was all for the children, according to rahlm.
Its all for the children.
Don't we have the worst public schools in the United States?
Its for the children.
Im not saying, I am just saying.
Its for the children.
Who's children?
What can you really say any more? The people have voted for a nanny state, so that's what they get.
Rahm's argument will be that at least no children were killed!
it's never about what they claim
it's for the children is code for
Our Hands In Your Pocket
ever notice when a politician says it's for the betterment of the public
it costs YOU The Public $?
the problem is it seem too many politicians trying to "help" us
which again translates in politics speech
as trying to REAM us
Hey! Rahm needs the money for more no-bid, connected, clouted contracts.
We desperately need more memorial park's & buildings to pay homage to the Daley cartel.
OT: Did ya hear Urkiel Stroger miss placed $500K.
Rahm tosses a million thats lost to " Open " fire and Urkiel losses $ 500 K.
Not even considered big money by these crooks.
"Just like the anti-gun people claiming 49 other states have to be wrong and only Illinois is getting it correct, while the streets of Chicago run red with blood."
But,...but,...but,...The Brady Bunch and Josh Sugarmann told us that if we passed concealed carry laws "the streets would run with blood," "there would be shootouts in supermarkets," "there would be gunfights over fender benders and parking spaces," and "there would be shootings in Chicago Catholic Churches." (Okay, I just threw that last one in there. B^D)
ECS
If I happen to win the Powerball tonight the first thing I'm going to do is move out of this shithole state and take my 300+ million with me. Last one to leave should turn the lights off.
My first priority at ANY redlight camera is NOT getting a ticket. If I have to jam on my brakes at the last second, or hit the gas, that's what I'll do.
And I do it for the children.
I'll never forget the first time I noticed red light cams out in the burbs. Not wanting a ticket, I came to a screeching halt at a yellow light and the woman behind me nearly rear ended me.
Safety? Balderdash.
Anonymous said...
Rahm's argument will be that at least no children were killed!
11/28/2012 07:14:00 AM
Yup. And it is OK that some guy got stabbed in the neck in an expensive hotel along North Michigan Ave because the police made a fast arrest. North Michigan Ave is as safe as Englewood, give Rahm a break.
CTA fares are not going up, it is simply a decrease in the discount.
New billboard seen along the Kennedy Xpway: A giant picture of Richard M Daley smiling and saying, "You miss me yet?"
The photo radar/red light cameras are a sham. Several other cities and towns around the US have taken the cameras down after it was proven that more accidents and injuries were created by having cameras in place.
Houston recently took their photo radar/red light cameras down after the City lost money and the accident rates at their intersections where cameras were utilized went up.
I live in Phoenix, and photo radar/red light cameras used to be everywhere around here in the City and suburbs. Every community here said that they were doing it for public safety. After some time passed, and the cost of tracking down people who weren't paying the fines and paying the fees to the camera companies who run the cameras exceed what the community was taking in in fines, almost all of the cameras came down one by one.
See the annoucencment that our fearless Leader is going to promote some liberal bullshit and it's got a catchy name too. Project Longevity wait till ya read this crap. Gotta wonder if this is the trial run on a smaller scale to next be implemented in Shitcago after McRahmlick is run out of town Then our beloved leader Rahm can run this shit up them Demorat flag pole and claim it as his own ya know for the children, here is the link
http://news.yahoo.com/officials-target-gun-violence-connecticut-120816587.html?bcmt=1354020386066-16855e6a-4038-419e-a825-5af43be6918a_00007s000000000000000000000000-57e6ff2c-be7f-40ca-80f2-ada68eee4e35&bcmt_s=u#ugccmt-container-b
With a shorter yellow light then the rest of the state, Chicago makes a lot of cash on red light tickets. If you are at the intersection and the light goes yellow, you must stop or you will get a ticket. If you are going 30-35 mph you will have to slam on your brakes. The only time that you will not get a citation is when you are next to a semi trailer truck who is also running the yellow as the truck is immune to red light tickets in this instance. Look it up, it is in the law.
Our politicians are so full of shit. when will we learn????
RAHM & every other politician and Police Chief who believe these cameras reduce the # of accidents is kidding themselves.
These cameras are just a Revenue Collection Device.
If they cared about traffic safety THAT MUCH they would hire enough officers to have a fully staffed Traffic Unit which would deal with offenders on the spot.
Nothing says "accident avoidance and prevention" like a traffic ticket or a good ol' fashioned "Driver Attitude Adjustment" [severe verbal admonition].
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
I blame YOU. Because YOU keep voting THEM.
CEASE FIRE!!!
hahaha...
Cicero elections..
Dominick would not comment for this story, but Cicero town spokesman Ray Hanania said, “Dominick is probably using CeaseFire members and volunteers to help him get re-elected.” But he added that some of the individuals on the Ochoa campaign have been included by the Chicago Crime Commission in its current book of known gang members.
“That’s the difference,” Hanania
said. “Our guys aren’t in that book.”
more here
Whoa..
"Tell Luis Gutierrez and Juan Ochoa to take their Street Gang Friends back to Chicago."
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Ochoa said no current gang members work for his campaign.
"Many of these individuals are volunteers for CeaseFire (now Cure Violence) and are former gang members who are now out helping people," Ochoa said of the staffers. "Dominick also uses CeaseFire volunteers to assist him with his campaign. Many of them, of course, are reformed gang members."
Dominick would not comment for this story, but Cicero town spokesman Ray Hanania said, "Dominick is probably using CeaseFire members and volunteers to help him get re-elected." But he added that some of the individuals on the Ochoa campaign have been included by the Chicago Crime Commission in its current book of known gang members.
"That's the difference," Hanania said. "Our guys aren't in that book."
Ochoa said he doesn't understand what relevance that has.
Meanwhile, Ochoa is accusing Dominick of putting two other Hispanic candidates on the ballot to draw votes from him, accusations the candidates and Hanania deny.
Ochoa also is claiming that Dominick is using the town police for his benefit.
On Election Day earlier this month, Cicero police officials charged a 55-year-old campaign worker for Ochoa with disorderly conduct for allegedly "sexually" threatening a female poll worker at a polling place, authorities said. The town immediately issued a news release after the incident, linking the campaign worker to a Chicago street gang.
The woman, who pressed charges against the man, happens to be a secretary for Dominick, according to Hanania.
"He never said anything to her," Ochoa said. "All of a sudden 10 police officers come to arrest him. (The man) is a grandpa, for goodness' sake."
Hanania, who also is a spokesman for the Police Department, said details about the number of officers involved weren't available, but he added that typically three or four officers respond when an arrest is made.
Ochoa said it also angers him that police came to the scene and made the arrest but made no arrests during a scuffle among campaign workers representing the two political parties at the Cicero/Berwyn Houby Festival in October.
"We called 911, the police did come, but they didn't arrest anyone," Ochoa said.
According to Ochoa, the incident occurred after a truck denouncing him and Gutierrez attempted to block Ochoa and his campaign workers while they were walking in the parade. The billboard on the flat truck read "Tell Luis Gutierrez and Juan Ochoa to take their Street Gang Friends back to Chicago."
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Gee ya wonder why Rahm and the aldermen don't do anything meaningful about the gang violence?
Yes HIGHWAY ROBBERY.
It's not just NJ look at Baltimore!
Speed camera flaws provide vindication for complaints
Questions about accuracy raised in Baltimore.
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Oh well you don't like the CTA fare increases? Well eff-you. Go drive and pay the clouted parking companies outrageous parking fees then!
Oh you don't like the speed cams? Too eff-ing bad if you think they're wrong you can always take off work, lose $100 days pay to challenge a $40 fine. Hahahaha..
Tell me it's not HIGHWAY ROBBERY!
The first people that will get busted with these cams will most likely be the school buses themselves followed by the cities garbage, street and san's and snow plow workers. Watch the overtime soar!
Meanwhile the reckless drivers that would normally have their driving privileges taken away will roam free.
It's another money grab for some outsourced corporate no-bid contract winner to run and use the CPD and government as it's enforcement arms.
Fascist!
Call 'em the Stick-em Up Cams 4 Kids. S.U.C.K for short
It has NOTHING to do with the kids or getting reckless drivers off the streets.. Check Baltimore..
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Baltimore-area speed cameras nail some drivers more than 100 times
Almost 600 cars have more than 30 tickets since the cameras were installed in 2009.
November 21, 2012|By Scott Calvert, The Baltimore Sun
Speed cameras have tagged Benjamin Parker's pickup truck 41 times in the Baltimore area over the past three years, records show — enough to have his license suspended 10 times over if those citations had been handed out by a police officer and not a machine.
Parker, a retiree who lives in Woodlawn, professed bewilderment that so many of the $40 citations have piled up, many from a stretch of Gwynns Falls Parkway in the city with a 25 mph speed limit. "I have no idea," he said when asked to explain it. "I don't even know anything about half those tickets."
Parker is one of 585 area motorists whose vehicles have amassed at least 30 tickets courtesy of the region's speed-detecting cameras since they were authorized in Maryland in 2009, according to a Baltimore Sun analysis.
He's nowhere near the most frequent offender in the Baltimore area. That distinction belongs to the driver of a Nissan SUV with North Carolina plates that has racked up 125 speed camera tickets in the city since November 2010 — four on a single day, city citation records show.
Federal law bars the state from revealing the owner's identity, but The Sun twice photographed the SUV cruising down Kelly Avenue in Mount Washington, where most of its camera tickets have been logged. The owner hasn't paid any of the tickets, leaving a balance of $5,000, and North Carolina's motor vehicle agency says the SUV's tag expired in July of last year.
More than 25,000 vehicles have received 10 or more area speed camera citations, and 3,000 have at least 20, The Sun found. More than 170,000 vehicles have at least four. Drivers who get four police officer-issued tickets within two years for speeding 10 mph or more over the limit collect enough "points" on their license to have it suspended.
much more here
Let's face it. The speed trap cams are no more effective than the Chicago hand gun band.
In the same CITY RIP OFF SCHEMES in the tribune this week article by Hal Dardick " Mayor bans TIF required givings to Charities to make cash donations to select charities including Maggie Daley's, Ald Carrie Austin and after school matters" "beneficiaries of tif were required " For the past ten years to make donations to these charities some number listed were 110K 265K 25K. TIF are the politicians slush fund and kick back haven. No accountability, Non transparent no accountability. TIFs need to be ended. If the around 200 mil in TIFs were put back in the general fund the budget would be balanced, Why don't they do it then you ask? because then they can't do what ever they want to for what ever scam/scheme/rip off kickback backroom deals they can make to profit themselves. The old politician took his piece of the pie knowing they had to leave most of the pie to make things function, These guys have taken the whole pie and left nothing. TIFS must go. We are all idiots.
...the Chicago hand gun band.
11/28/2012 11:04:00 PM
pop pop
whiz whiz
oh what a relief dat iz
Chalkie
Gee ya wonder why Rahm and the aldermen don't do anything meaningful about the gang violence?
11/28/2012 10:27:00 PM
i have a cure for violence.
some say it's worse than the disease.
i pay them no mind.
Chalkie
Had to laugh at Mom's red hat lady friends the other day. A bunch of ladies in their 60's and 70's, all sarcastically mocking Rahm's over-used "it's for the CHILDREN" line.
Even the grandmas see through your b.s., Rahm.
Let's face it. The speed trap cams are no more effective than the Chicago hand gun band.
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I hear they'll be at the House of Blues next month!
Hey, hey, ho, ho, Rham Emannuels got to go!!!!!!!!
I live near a photo red stop at a very badly designed intersection. There has been at least one death since the camera went up. Not sure if any deaths before camera.
Intersection is on 55 mph highway, I am sure intersection should be changed, but village is willing to take money over saving lives.
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