McMoron Says What?
Nothing like keeping that tongue firmly planted in Rahm's sphincter while dozens of families prepare to bury their dead:
- Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy says a meaningful response to the Connecticut school shooting, and shootings everywhere, would be to hold gun owners more accountable.
“Its got to stop,” McCarthy said. “People are going to have to wake up.”
- McCarthy said that there has to be a national recognition that there has to be some sort of tracking and if gun owners were required to report the loss, theft or transfer of firearms, shootings would not occur on the scale that they are today.
Guns are often legally purchased, McCarthy said, and then illegally transferred and used in crimes.
Because what happened in Connecticut was a complete failure of existing gun laws. Let's see...
- MSNBC is reporting that the assassin attempted to buy a rifle just last week, but was denied purchase for an as yet unknown reason.
Gee, that seems like the existing gun laws worked just fine.
- All of the guns were legally purchased and we suppose, properly registered, by the mother of the murderer.
So McMoron is laying the blame at her feet for not reporting her guns stolen. Of course, the fact that she was lying in her home dead, the first victim of the madman's spree, doesn't seem to make an impression on the Streetlight Marksman.
If it wasn't for the circumstances surrounding this entire episode, it would be amusingly ironic to see the pretzels that the anti-gunners are twisting themselves into, seeing as how this was akindergarten school teacher divorced mother of a handicapped man who owned not one, two or three legal firearms, but at least five. As it is, we can only shake our heads that improperly secured firearms in the presence of a mentally disturbed individual ended up being the tool with which he performed his mindless evil.
NOTE: information coming out that she was not in fact, a teacher.
If it wasn't for the circumstances surrounding this entire episode, it would be amusingly ironic to see the pretzels that the anti-gunners are twisting themselves into, seeing as how this was a
NOTE: information coming out that she was not in fact, a teacher.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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http://www.odmp.org/officer/11612-police-officer-irma-c-ruiz#ixzz2FAOghtJ8
Let us never forget Officer Ruiz's heroism. Ordinary superheroes otherwise known as police men and women can protect our children from bad guys inside of schools with believe it or not a gun.
HOW IGNORANT CAN YOU GET!?
The kids in the hood don't think that they will live to see 25 years old!
What the f--k are you going to deter them with...life in prison...a death sentence? Aren't they already up for that when they murder someone?!
HELL YES!
Stupid politicians trying to put on a kabuki theater show that they are doing something.
They don't have FOID cards, they are not going to register them, they don't have the money for the political hoops most of them and you think that you're gonna scare them with jail time when they've already accepted an early death? Good luck with that plan.
We'd suggest that he check into one of the local mental health clinics but Rahm closed them.
I'm a civilian (so I know that what I have to say is really of no matter to officers). But, I met and spoke with McWhatever about one year ago at the bank on Michigan Avenue where my firm and Mc? do business. I walked away from that conversation with the impression that he was a complete f'in tool. Nothing has changed since then. He's a jag.
File under:
Things you'll never see on Chicago network TV
Rahm's World-Class schools.
(youtube) South Shore student goes ballistic demanding that the teacher teach something "you're gonna STFU and sit down and teach us all something" or something like that.
Hey gurl, go sit in that $55 million dollar Maggie Daley park the mayor is building for you. Just follow the $300,000 dollar per-mile bike path to get there. Chicago has no jobs anyways.
Sorry SCC, Nancy Lanza, the mother of Adam Lanza and owner of the guns, never was a kindergarten school teacher. The family was well off, and she didn't need to work.
"So McMoron is laying the blame at her feet for not reporting her guns stolen. Of course, the fact that she was lying in her home dead, the first victim of the madman's spree"
If, God forbid this had happened in Chicago, the mother would've been counted as a suicide, just to keep the numbers down!
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Eehh... dont worry, get caught with a gun here in Chicago, you get probation. Then Secret Probation, then Double Secret Probation, then maybe you go to prison.
Dont worry about prison, you get 10, you'll be out in 2.
Thats right, Boss, way to "hold them accountable"!
Again, when you get in an argument with libtards about this issue, frame it thusly:
How come these kooks always target the most DEFENSELESS populations, in places like schools, colleges, and movie theaters?
Why do these kooks NEVER try to pull this shit on HEAVILY-ARMED populations, like police department precinct stations, FFL firing ranges, or Marine Corps camps?
Arm the teachers.
Arm the principals.
Get some ex-MIL and ex-LEO Dads & Uncles & Grand-Dads in there, volunteering their time, and arm them as well.
“It's got to stop,” the Pharaoh Mentuhotep IV said. “People are going to have to wake up.”
Just keeping things in perspective.
I heard the Gov say he thinks they should ban "high capacity weapons". I just was grateful that it wasn't reported that this POS had a bottle of Jack in his car....I'd be fucked.
I gotta say this one atually made me part of the holy shit crowd, wtf and try explaining shit like this to your kids........
You can't make this stuff up.
We are so fu@king doomed !
The usual smoke and mirrors!
Fear
I was a teacher in CPS when this happened.
One afternoon during passing period I was watching the hall.
when i saw a boy slip a Beretta semi auto into his belt
above the crack of his ass.The hall was full of kids so
what to do?Well i went up to him and said what is in your belt
If he had so much as blinked his nuts would have visited his liver.
Thank god he said a prop gun for the school play.Sure enough out came a copy of a real pistol it was a perfect working replica.
I took him to security and after telling the cop I proceeded to
verbal unload on him.
The fear did not kick in until later.But if it was real and he was bent on destruction that would have been it for a lot of people.If a cop had
observed what he did he might have been shot.God was I stupid.
Chicago having gun laws in place than why does Chicago have one of the highest murder rates in the Country and the victims of these street homiicides are juveniles The Supt of Police is just the puppet for the Mayor and is not taking the proper steps to stop the homicide rate. Control the gang activity in Chicago and the murder rate will go down.maybe Chicago will have its school,patrol,back and create more clout jobs for people like Tommy Bryne.
try explaining shit like this to your kids........
1) ADHD/Asperger's/Anti-Social-PD/Schizophrenia
2) Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors [SSRIs] which can counter-intuitively INCREASE violent ideations and violent behavior
3) Divorce - no father in the home - single mother is the only "role" model and the only "disciplinarian"
4) Extremely violent videogames played 10-, 12-, 16-hours-per-day
5) Frankfurt School pumping venom and poison into the entire culture on a 24x7 basis, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, decade after decade
6) No time in anybody's busy schedule for kicking back, relaxing, getting introspective, and having a nice long talk with The Big Fella.
PS: And the psychiatrists who were instrumental in creating the Frankfurt School of cultural nihilism were also instrumental in dis-assembling the old mental health rest-home/sanitarium infrastructure which kept these kooks off the streets.
All the SSRIs in the world are a pathetically sorry-assed substitute for a straight-jacket and a padded room...
PPS: And the Frankfurt School also created the culture of feminism which "empowered" women to try to raise these troubled boys as single mothers, without the boys' fathers in the house.
One other thing: Whenever they perform the post-mayhem reviews and analyses, we always find out that "The System" knew all about these kooks, but failed to act.
Their teachers knew about them, their psychiatrists knew about them, the LEOs knew about them - for years, they had been on everyone's radar, but no one could be bothered to do a damn thing about them.
And you can file all that bureaucratic sclerosis and insouciance and ineffectiveness and utter uselessness under the category of the Frankfurt School's assault on the institutions and the dis-assembling of the old physical infrastructure which had been in place for getting these kooks off the streets permanently.
It is very difficult to over-emphasize how much of the mayhem in our society was intentionally thrust upon us by the Frankfurt School and by their co-tribalists in Hollyweird and in television and in the newspapers and in the universities and in the courts and in occupations like the current mayoralties of Chicago and NYC.
Just like these guys to use a tragedy to push their own agenda.
Hey jagoff McWhiskeybreath. How about holding beat offs like you and the politicians you stick your head up accountable for endangering the American people by denying them their Constitutional right to defend themselves.
If you would stop your communist crusade to disarm the American people and instead place armed security at soft targets, this wouldn't happen.
The liberal response to post 9-11 terrorism was to create the TSA to do NOTHING to keep people safe. How about an armed and trained force to keep children safe? Liberals are too fucking stupid to think that way because it interferes with their bullshit anti-gun agenda.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
"Would it make you feel any better little girl if they was pushed outta windows?" Archie Bunker to Gloria in reference to the above statement.
I don't know how many people were killed by a machete in Rwanda, but it was alot, and many of them were adults who would have stood a better chance of getting away from their assailant than a child.
I'm not a big gun guy, but I fail to see how the liberal left think this problem has to do with the gun rather than the person. If you have the evil or craziness in you to pull the trigger against 40lb children, then you have the evil in you to kill them by more primitive means, like a sharp edge or a blunt object.
Instead the liberal left wants us to be as restricted as possible in our efforts to catch, charge and successfully prosecute these people and when we do they restrict our ability to make them serve an appropriate amount of time for their sins. They also want us to be less restictive with the mentally ill, unless of course the individual is pissing on or setting fire to their property. Lets deal with the asshole properly and make sure responsible people are armed just in case, and I think the number of these tragedies, or at least the magnitude of them will decrease.
Hey Tom want to go shopping?
There isn't anything any more that comes out of this DICK HEADS MOUTH that surprises me.How does he look at himself in the mirror,without thinking I'M such a TOOL.............
The same doof who coined the phrase "government sponsored racism" ?
I shed a tear.
It's not the Pilgrims again is it?
You can lead a fool to the microphone...and then IT opens ITS mouth. That goes for PrickWrinkle too.
Isn't it a shame that not one of the teachers had a legally possed gun with them and protected the children with it.
This is not a gun control problem!!! This rotten fuck stole the guns from his mom!! Who he killed. So again the law bidding gun owner did nothing wrong, other than die maybe trying to stop him. With what I have heard this killer could not own gun, due to the fact he was nut job. So they want to punish the innocent with any type of gun control ban.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/01/us/attack-at-wyoming-college-proves-fatal.html?_r=0 also see http://now.msn.com/china-school-knife-attack-injures-22-children?ocid=ansnow11 outlaw guns and the crazies will still be crazy with other weapons. McJersey you are a prick. You got drunk and shot your weapon in public. You should have been jailed.
We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken "Society" is guilty,.. Rather then the lawbreaker,..
It is time to restore the American Precept that each Individual is accountable for his/her actions.
Ronald Reagan
Citizen Gigi here
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. We need to
be armed. I don't feel safe anywhere anymore.
People are asking why the mother didn't secure her weapons - because after her own son killed her, he couldn't have just taken the keys and unlocked the safe.
To the person who posted about Irma Ruiz THANK YOU. Go to officer down page and learn about the heroic actions her and her partner G.J. did in 1988.
I'm sure the Connecticut shooter's mom would have reported the theft, if she was ALIVE! What a moron of a superintendent.
Exactly my thoughts. Hate to say it, but it sounds as if this mother had some responsibility in what happened (altho doesn't matter now, she is dead).
Instead of the gun control crowd ramping up the GUNS ARE BAD song & dance again, why not take a lesson from Israel? Put at least one armed officer in every school, and mandate firearms training in school (just like drivers ed).
Last but not least, start a medical study of the link between violence & SSRI drugs; I bet this shooter was on one.
"How come these kooks always target the most DEFENSELESS populations...
Why do these kooks NEVER try to pull this shit on HEAVILY-ARMED populations"
But that calls for using a brain to make that connection! Instead, the brainless want to make us MORE defenseless!!
"Arm the teachers.
Arm the principals.
Get some ex-MIL and ex-LEO Dads & Uncles & Grand-Dads in there, volunteering their time, and arm them as well"
Amen to you. I agree with this action plan
This POS who killed 26 children and adults did an Arnold "I'll be back" a la the movie "Terminator".
Arnold drove his truck into the Police Station and starting shooting/killing.
This POS shot out the locked glass doors to gain entrance to the grade school to go on his killing spree.
Let's blame Hollywoood movie producers and the makers of those violent killer video games.
Firearms need to be properly secured in a SAFE! Especially when you have a person with a mental disability living in your household. As a teacher she should have known better.
What sort of alternate reality is McNumbNuts living in?
"We'd suggest that he check into one of the local mental health clinics but Rahm closed them."
12/16/2012 12:27:00 AM
Yes, it's a shame that there's obviously no low-income treatment available for one-track minds. That's about 18 of these.
Try posting on "Second City Shrink."
"I'm a civilian (so I know that what I have to say is really of no matter to officers)."
12/16/2012 12:31:00 AM
OK. If you say so.
Anonymous said...
Marine Unit solved a big case today... 11yr old cold case missing! Vehicle located in river and remains should give family closure. Too bad Rahm trying to disband this valuable unit. Great work guys!
12/15/2012 08:12:00 PM
This was NOT a 'big case'. It was a missing.
The family made every investigator out to be incompetent and came up with conspiracy theories to explain why he went missing. Now, at least it's OVER, for both the family and the Department.
Thanks to the Marine Unit and the new piece of sonar equipment, maybe the young man can rest in peace now and the family can accept the situation.
What any politician or pastor from Chicago has to say about the tradgedy in Ct.is disturbing and shows that they are pandering in the face of misfortune.
volunteering their time
Volunteer???? Really? I think the schools can afford a paid professional, if they can afford to pay these schmuck superintendants outrageous salaries.
Thats right, volunteer your time so when you get killed or have to kill someone you lose everything. Leave it to professionals who are covered by liabilty when shit goes wrong.
u know, most of his speaches to the news are soft as baby shit
Their are enough guidelines, restrictions, rules and laws. The courts "ESPECIALLY COOK COUNTY" needs to enforce the laws and do something about criminals that use guns in their crimes. Oh yeah, instead of getting less strict with juveniles, get more strict. Nip in the butt in the beginning stages of criminals. Fist pump Judge Walker in juvenile court being removed off the bench would be a great start.
I believe the above post about 'frankfort schools' has hit the nail on the head. What happened to the good old days when these nuts would be incarcerated in institutions............. Another liberal action gone awry.
And the liberals , STILL are blaming assault weapons on the school shooting spree.
McNutty and Dickhead Durbin spewing lies instead of the facts for their cause. I cannot believe these lying uneducated fools are still holding a job.
A couple of well armed off duty or retired Cops workin security at the School would have stopped or curtailed at least some of the slaughter. More Armed Security is needed Nationwide, to stop or slow these sporatic incidents. A decrease in Taxes and Entitlements and an increase in Security is needed now. Concealed Carry needs to expand also, as it has been a definate proven deterrent to crimes like this. More Home Schooling is needed, that is the peoples right, as is the right to join a Union or not. Also, there's much more to this story.
"Nancy Lanza, the mother of Adam Lanza and owner of the guns...well off, and she didn't need to work."
12/16/2012 01:44:00 AM
Looking at pics of her, I just wonder how much of that modern up-to-date battery was her idea, and how much suggested by estranged husband -- or possibly a kid underaged for handgun purchases, or maybe any gun purchase at the time.
Kid had ideas, was dragging the Web to fuel it all and pick up details? Very common. "Get this one, get this one too."
Wacko reportedly smashed two computers after he shot Mom in the face. Boxes are in forensics now. Something was maybe on there.
We shall see ...everything's Jello until everyone finishes all their work on this.
Keep closing all the mental health facilities Gov Quinn! With the way the mental health care is in this country, I hate to say it, but this is a precursor for more to come. We have all this money for CHA and section 8, we supply thousands of undeserving families with gov money for food stamps and babysitting and yet we don't spend a dime on the one thing that could keep people safe. Mental health care. Shove your gun control laws up your **
OT but relevant.....I want to thank the desk officer on afternoons in 18 who, after taking a 20 minute personal while we waited to get inventories signed, then showed up off duty in uniform a half an hour later at McDonald's to get her free meal......this job hires true winners.
Looking at pics of her, I just wonder how much of that modern up-to-date battery was her idea, and how much suggested by estranged husband -- or possibly a kid underaged for handgun purchases, or maybe any gun purchase at the time.
Kid had ideas, was dragging the Web to fuel it all and pick up details? Very common. "Get this one, get this one too."
Wacko reportedly smashed two computers after he shot Mom in the face. Boxes are in forensics now. Something was maybe on there.
We shall see ...everything's Jello until everyone finishes all their work on this.
12/16/2012 07:50:00 PM
People who knew her said she was a "prepper," part of the survivalist movement who stockpiles food and supplies and trains with weapons in the event of social chaos. People who knew her also said she taught her son how to shoot. So, yes, I guess everything IS jello until the investigation is over.
Just puzzling over this tragedy...
Why wasn't DAD the one raising/having a direct hand on this kid if he was such a problem?
So many comments in the aftermath saying that this kid was a "handful" for the Mom...
Maybe the dad was a weakling and mom tried her best to be mother and father?
It's not really important to know in hind-sight...
Questions always crop up in the aftermath of tragedy.
Just a funny feeling that the kid just flat out ambushed his Mom because she probably would have won the physical fight. She seemed to have been a gutsy woman...
who protecting us from the politicians? 55 million on inner city kids to do yoga...thanks gov quinn..
Of course McCarthy would love a national gun ban, that way when everywhere is as fucked up as Chicago he'll look good by comparison.
this guy is preaching responsible gun ownership--- does shooting out street lights in new york while your blasted out of your mind mean that you are a responsible gun owner...
"...everything's Jello until everyone finishes all their work on this."
There's always room for Jell-O!
Obama administration, Congress quietly let school security funds lapse
http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons-school-security-failure
"I don't know how many people were killed by a machete in Rwanda, but it was alot, and many of them were adults who would have stood a better chance of getting away from their assailant than a child.
I'm not a big gun guy, but I fail to see how the liberal left think this problem has to do with the gun rather than the person. If you have the evil or craziness in you to pull the trigger against 40lb children, then you have the evil in you to kill them by more primitive means, like a sharp edge or a blunt object."
Ridiculous! You are comparing apples and toasters.
perhaps if one gets a chance one should try to watch the view this morning Dr. micheal welner a forensic psychiatrist spoke on "shock value" of mass murders
they kept trying to point to semi auto weapons and he was shooting them down he brought up really good points of mental illness and situations
Armed classrooms (From WIKI)
For years, some areas in the US have allowed "armed classrooms" to deter (or truncate) future attacks, presumably by changing helpless victims into armed defenders. In 2008, Harrold Independent School District in Texas became the first public school district in the U.S. to allow teachers with state-issued firearm-carry permits to carry their arms in the classroom; special additional training and ricochet-resistant ammunition were required for participating teachers.[42] Students at the University of Utah have been allowed to carry concealed pistols (so long as they possess the appropriate state license) since a State Supreme Court decision in 2006.[43][44] In addition to Utah, Wisconsin and Mississippi each have legislation that allow students, faculty and employees with the proper permit, to carry concealed weapons on their public university's campuses.[45][46] Colorado and Oregon state courts have ruled in favor of Campus Carry laws by denying University's proposals to ban guns on campus. Ruling that the UC Board of Regents and the Oregon University System did not have the authority to ban weapons on campus.[47][48] A selective ban was then re-instated, wherein Oregon state universities enacted a ban on guns in school building and sporting events or by anyone contracted with the university in question.[49]
Michigan State University as of June 2009, allows students to carry firearms on campus, the university still prohibits knives and other non-firearm weapons however.
A commentary in the conservative National Review Online argues that the armed school approach for preventing school attacks, while new in the US, has been used successfully for many years in Israel and Thailand.[50] Teachers and school officials in Israel are allowed and encouraged to carry firearms if they have former military experience in the IDF, which almost all do. However, statistics on what percentage of teachers are actually armed are unavailable.
Ridiculous! You are comparing apples and toasters.
12/17/2012 07:39:00 AM
let's test your theory.
i'll hold a straight razor to your throat, say, my left hand firmly gripping your neck and the edge of the razor, held in my right hand, pressing gently against your juggler, while you hold the muzzle of any handgun you choose to my chest.
on the count of three....
No need for guns, we have to educate the ignorant and uneducated (Cobra) in Chicago how to make explosives. I know the dangers, but natural selective breeding will finally have the advantage.
These school districts including crook county and nation wide have to have either on/off duty police or hire police that are retired who would be required to take heavy weapons training provided they are willing to do the job. Asbad as that sounds it's the first 5-15 minutes that active shooters do the most damage.Someone on scene properly armed could prevent further shooting's or stop them until police arrive.Expensive but it is unfortunate we live in these times.
"So, yes, I guess everything IS jello until the investigation is over."
12/16/2012 10:03:00 PM
Tired, I just meant that there are lots of different news stories flying around as things are uncovered, don't take any one thing as the complete facts yet, but wait until more investigation is done and things become clearer. The day this happened, and the day after, there were umpty-ump different agencies and God knows how many news organizations going like anything. As you'd expect with such a major incident. It will settle down.
Can't say the anti-gunners wait even a moment, huh?
Just a few things:
1) The firearms may have been 'properly secured', but this was the owner's SON so even if they were 'secured properly', the SON may have access to the combination or the key. So that 'proper security' bullshit is just that.
2) This assassin was also a thief.
3) We don't know when he stole the firearms in question. So it may not have been longer than the 72-hour favorite leftist belief that a victim of a theft should be required to report said theft whether they choose to or not.
4) I agree with McNitwit - this has got to stop. We definitely have to STOP electing Democratic, Leftist Assholes who never fail to use any crisis to their advantage to advance their Communistic/Socialistic agendas to screw over the law-abiding by passing laws that won't affect criminals. And by not enforcing laws violated by criminals.
5) You know what else has to stop? Continued violation of our Creator-endowed rights to keep and BEAR arms. Whether it's concealed or not - I don't care. I demand to carry so I can defend myself, my family (and my fellow law-abiding citizens if need be) against the onslaught of armed, savages that roam the City virtually unchecked.
6) We need to stop leaving the PD understaffed.
7) We need to stop coddling savages that break the law. Oh Darius got shot when he went for a flashlight? Tough! Maybe his friends and family will learn something from this. OBEY THE POLICE - MAKE NO SUDDEN MOVES.
8) We need to stop treating people as dependents from cradle to grave. You decided to screw, you decided to have a kid, you deal with it. Lost your job? Fine. Here's some TEMPORARY benefits - find a job or start a business of your own within 36 weeks or figure it out on your own. Everything limited to 36 weeks, ONCE every 5 years.
9) We need to stop taxing everything at obscene rates.
10) We need to stop the War on Some Drugs. Just lightly regulate and tax the stuff and move on.
11) We need to stop pandering to the Lowest Common Denominator in schools. If your kid can't pass the test: STUDY HARDER or fail and get kicked out because you're a moron.
12) We need to stop letting morons run the Police Dept. We need to get back to the Old School style of CPD. "Fuck the Police" = You get Tuned Up. "Get off the Street" means go in or lose some teeth.
Stop putting up with bullshit that you know won't work. Just do what does work and tell them what they want to hear.
[...] 8) We need to stop treating people as dependents from cradle to grave. [...]
I agree, but let's extend the same treatment to politicians and businesses (i.e. corporate welfare) too.
[...] Instead the liberal left wants us to be as restricted as possible in our efforts to catch, charge and successfully prosecute these people and when we do they restrict our ability to make them serve an appropriate amount of time for their sins. [...]
Ah, are the same liberals who criticize Republicans for closing mental health facilities, while saying nothing about Democrats (i.e. Quinn & Emanuel) doing the same?
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