Who Gets the Two?
- Robert Danno and Jose Fernardo Martinez-Hernandez barely looked at each other as a prosecutor described how Danno allegedly strangled his wife and his 79-year-old mother-in-law in their Southwest Side home, then drove the bodies to a suburban forest preserve and set them on fire.
Martinez-Hernandez fought back tears as Judge Kerry Kennedy ordered the two men held without bond on charges of first-degree murder and concealing a homicide in the killing Saturday of Mary Ann Urban-Danno and her mother, Theresa Urban. Standing just a few feet away, Danno, dressed in a baggy blue T-shirt, was impassive.
Detectives said Danno and Martinez-Hernandez lived together in the basement of a house in the 5600 block of South Neenah Avenue on the Southwest Side, a home they shared with Urban-Danno and her mother, who had dementia. On Saturday, Urban-Danno went to the basement and argued with her husband, who wrestled her to the floor with Martinez-Hernandez, authorities said.
With this level of detail, we're assuming the got videotaped confessions and it's pretty much a slam dunk at this point. But as has his investigators on it and there probably wasn't a Chicago RD number pulled except in relation to processing the scene with the County, who gets the two killings?
We hear the wheels turning in Rahm's head.
We hear the wheels turning in Rahm's head.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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On body dump(s), if it can be conclusively proven that the actual murder(s) occurred in a different jurisdiction, the latter venue should be charged with the homicide(s). Otherwise, the murder(s) will be charged to the dump site location. The location of lividity on the corpse(s) could also prove interesting, if not conclusive.
Chicago PD (008) +2
A hypothetical on Roosevelt Road: The shooter fires from the 011 sidewalk, fatally striking the vic across the street on the 010 sidewalk where he collapses. Which district/detective area gets the murder?
McStreet Light Assassin hit the EASY button, and instituted a new column heading of NOT CONFIRMED. The number 2 in the new column has no impact on the total number of confirmed murders for 2013. See? Easy.
They are still trying not to classify as murder the woman and kid unfortunately killed in the fire on the southside a couple of days ago. Even though OFI and B&A both labeled the fire as "suspicious", since arson was not directly declared yet they stay as death investigations, when everyone knows these are homicides.
You can add two more who's 9.5 kidding.
Did they count the mother and son killed in the arson fire yet?
Word on the street is that if you kill someone and drag them over the border into another city, Rahmbolina will pick up 50% of your attorney's fees, Mc Stupe will kick in 25%, and 25% will be left up to the public defender.
New billboards going up:
Kill 'em here, we don't care! Just don't leave 'em here so we have to count 'em!
Guys, it is where the body or bodies are found.
Unfortunately it is where the body is lies.
Welcome to our welcome city.
A hypothetical on Roosevelt Road: The shooter fires from the 011 sidewalk, fatally striking the vic across the street on the 010 sidewalk where he collapses. Which district/detective area gets the murder?
It's where the victim is. 010 gets it.
Chicago we are number 1
murder capital
next Detroit
high taxes , water bills
millions owed to city for water from south suburbs , did city ever collect
no money for teachers , millions for new schools
Jean Waugh says "score two for Chicago"
SCC - Since the act took place within the Chicago city limits, we're counting it towards Chicago's homicide count. This brings Sept up to 32 homicides and 335 on the year. YTD is now higher than 2011 or 2009. Whoops.
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where the body falls gets the paper.
12:36am. 010 gets it.
Anonymous said...
McStreet Light Assassin hit the EASY button, and instituted a new column heading of NOT CONFIRMED. The number 2 in the new column has no impact on the total number of confirmed murders for 2013. See? Easy.
9/25/2013 12:50:00 AM
This was brought up about a month ago on SCC that McCarthy was going to try to fudge the homicide numbers. Looks like he found a way to do it. I've been a detective for almost 12 years and I have never seen such a blatant attempt to fudge homicides. There used to be strict rules about reporting these and like it or not the bosses did stick by the rules. Apparently not so anymore.
SCC, you know the rule has always been wherever the body lies gets the X.
That's why the old wagon men use to push the floater across the river. also there was no money in morgue runs and who wants to get wet for free?
Can't we just share?
The men admitted to strangling the women in their home in Chicago. It all depends on if the the strangling killed them then its Chicagos murders, if the fire killed them then its not.
The rule is: "Where the body lies."
Your find em', you got em'.
Rahm and McDumbass with find a way to have the medical examiner determine that they weren't offilcial dead until they crossed the city lines and arrived t the forest preserves.
A hypothetical on Roosevelt Road: The shooter fires from the 011 sidewalk, fatally striking the vic across the street on the 010 sidewalk where he collapses. Which district/detective area gets the murder?
9/25/2013 12:36:00 AM
10. Central.
A hypothetical on Roosevelt Road: The shooter fires from the 011 sidewalk, fatally striking the vic across the street on the 010 sidewalk where he collapses. Which district/detective area gets the murder?
First who cares, 19p
Second, if no one sees this happen no one cares.
Third, as long as I am not the paper car I don't care who gets it. Let 1070 handle the paper work, he loves doing everything and TALKS way tooooo much on the radio.Mr T told him to quite his jibber jabber the other day and 1070 blew a gasket. LMFAO
Hey 1070, SHUT UP FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
where the body falls gets the paper.
9/25/2013 09:22:00 AM
So all those bodies that got pushed, dragged or floated to another jurisdiction were helping the stats? That just aint right!!
Book 'em, Danno! Wait, nevermind.
Anonymous said...
Guys, it is where the body or bodies are found.
9/25/2013 07:44:00 AM
If you can definitively prove that the murders happened in the city it s our murder........ a confession on video tape ........ if it was in fact done would make the 2 murders ours /' Its in the Detective Divison SOP
Chicago's murder
What happens if a dead body falls in the middle of the forest and no one is there to hear it?
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