Look What Happened Wednesday
- Attorney General Lisa Madigan on Wednesday asked the state’s top court to reverse a lower court’s ruling that the 2013 pension reform bill is unconstitutional.
Madigan’s office filed a notice of appeal less than a week after a Sangamon County judge ruled the 2013 law violated the Illinois State Constitution’s clause on state pensions. Her move begins the appeals process and paves the way for a legal showdown before the Illinois Supreme Court.
On Friday, Sangamon County Circuit Judge John Belz ruled in favor of state employees and retirees who sued to block the state’s landmark pension overhaul.
In his ruling, Belz found that the constitution’s “protection against the diminishment or impairment of pension benefits is absolute and without exception.”
We certainly hope she uses the same "emergency" argument and gets laughed out of court. And could someone remind us about which party exactly is the one filing, appealing and presenting this case again? Thanks in advance.
Labels: pension
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
84 Comments:
Would anybody be surprised if they win the appeal?
OT- check this out,! Bullshit
UN panel singles out Chicago Police in US torture condemnation
http://bit.ly/1xUNfo6
off topic. In the news yesterday the city announced that two new graffiti trucks will be added to the cities fleet to take care of the growing graffiti problem. And now for todays news... This morning near Oak street and the lake a city Grafitti truck that was working near the water slid into the lake in the water and was destroyed. Carry on......
Two peop veele shot Friday night in the middle of the mag mile at Nordstrom. Domestic Related very hush in the middle of the biggest shopping day of the year. Wow.
OT: You know what, SCC? I was on the fence about Darren Wilson's indictment being returned as a "No True Bill", but after reading this coos well written opinion, my mind is made up. A trial could've really set him free and cleared his name. It's bad for Wilson the way the prosecutor handled it differently than any other case we would normally have sent to trial. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/28/prosecutor-used-grand-jury-to-let-darren-wilson-walk.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
Lisa doesn't make a decision without daddy's OK. Therefore the writing is on the wall that Bossman Madigan wants to change our pensions.
And for some reason the moron unions keep endorsing her and daddy.
Lisa wants to screw us on our pensions but she lets Daddy continue to steal every thing in sight. Nice to have your daughter as AG.
She has all the state's money and resources to waste in doing Rahm's bidding.
Now what cop or what government employee of any kind would vote for her or not vote which is the same thing.
And why would any police organization endorse her of any office.
Off Topic but Important
Does anyone from the 020 know if there was any Special Attention issued for that NYT reporter's address on North Wayne Avenue?
Have they observed a U-Haul truck in front?
The New York Times should fire those reporters and their editor for that stunt, issue an apology and make sure that does not happen again.
Not that I watch the local TV news anymore but this would have been a story they should have picked up. It would have been a cautionary to reporters everywhere. What those NYT did was to endanger that Officer and his family at their home. If it would have been firebombed in the middle of the night then what.
Even the old school Mafia never screwed with the family of any honest cop.
And FlOP backed her right?
But democrats support the unions. That's what my union bosses told me when they told me how to vote. They're not socialists or anything. They look out for the working man, not the one per centers. Rahm isn't a one per center.
FOP backed Lisa Madigan yet somehow I am supposed to believe that FOP has my best interests in mind?
Lisa is doing her daddy's work for him. His work is screwing public employees while he sets himself up for a giant public pension.
From what I recall the FLOP Board was a split tie to endorse Lisa and Dean was the tie breaking vote to endorse her. Someone asked for a copy of the Board members recorded vote and one of Dean's lackies went to Dean's defense. I will call the Recording Secratary at FLOP on Monday for a copy of the vote...unless someone has it already. These are the guys we voted in! I will put money on it that Dean and his pals have sealed an endorsment for Rahm as well in exchange for the contract. One of Dean's chubby retired guys from area 5 has already been heard saying that we should have endorsed Lisa instead if "sticking a stick in her father's eye".
Funny how The Democratic party is now the welfare party. More votes to be had. Republicans need to wake up and find a good candidate or it will be Hillary and one giant welfare state. Also funny how the majority of African Americans support Democrats when history showed that they voted against the 13th amendment. Watch Lincoln and learn something...
Tax the rich, feed the poor, till there are no rich no more. Well in this case middle class. You go girl! But you will be needin dem police when the money runs out and the savages turn on you. You can feed them and give them sugar but when that runs out not only will your votes be gone but you will be eaten alive. Just ask for help from those same police you screwed. I am sure they will come running.
I thought the AG handled criminal cases?
The Bullshit I've been hearing for years when I go to my Union meetings.
We gotta vote for him,or her they are our. Friends!
Why, it would be the one Our Union recommended we vote for silly, just like that "contract".
Why can't she and other state politicians use the same argument to say that Chicago MUST pay its appropriate share into pension fund?
Never become the Story, Julie!
http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-address-calling-cops-nonstop/
lol
Bonified dingbat!
>>>Anonymous said...
off topic. In the news yesterday the city announced that two new graffiti trucks will be added to the cities fleet to take care of the growing graffiti problem. And now for todays news... This morning near Oak street and the lake a city Grafitti truck that was working near the water slid into the lake in the water and was destroyed. Carry on......
11/29/2014 12:18:00 AM<<<
From Now Retired...
OFFICER SAFETY>>> That can happen to you. I have known at least two incidents of stopped CPD squad cars that slid off the concrete and into the lake.
In one incident one of the partners couldn't swim but her partner was able to pull her to safety. They had to flag a cab down on Lake Shore Drive and walked into the 18th District cold, wet but alive. (RIP Dan S.)
The 5620, Apt# 2 North Wayne address is the address of one of the New York Times reporters who printed Officer Wilson's home address. Apparently, when someone returned the favor and put Her address out there she fled Chicago. The Internet can be a double edged sword for those who would use it to "Expose" and abuse the privacy of others. The Bitch is running because she is afraid and knows what she did was wrong."G"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: You know what, SCC? I was on the fence about Darren Wilson's indictment being returned as a "No True Bill", but after reading this coos well written opinion, my mind is made up. A trial could've really set him free and cleared his name. It's bad for Wilson the way the prosecutor handled it differently than any other case we would normally have sent to trial. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/28/prosecutor-used-grand-jury-to-let-darren-wilson-walk.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
11/29/2014 12:48:00 AM
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the prosecutor would have never approved charges on this. It was sent to grand jury, that is what was out of the ordinary. Ordinarily, it just wouldn't have been charged.
And we don't charge people with crimes in this country just to 'get more information.'
Goof.
Dean the dream Angelo will sell the union out as predicted when the pension changes come up. You can bet on it! Why would he endorse the little skank Madigan? Dean always dreamed of a nice professorship at one of the state universities and a chance for getting another public pension just like all the other political losers get that play ball.
@0048, He probably would have been okay at trial but after reading some of the reports and interviews...they really effed that investigation up. An OIS with a fatal unarmed offender is not a good time for cutting corners.
OT:
Anonymous said...
Blood in, blood out for the Brown family and their banger step daddy.
Julie Bosman
5620 N Wayne Ave Apt 2
Chicago, Il 60660-4204
Phone number: 646-753-2052
11/28/2014 07:55:00 AM
When you call her number it goes straight to VM and the mailbox is full. I will keep her number forever and call her every day that the Ferguson officer's name is in the news.
I wonder if she is afraid now that her address and phone number are out there? I wonder if something goes bump in the night if she'll call the nasty racist police? I wonder if she's getting a gun?
Little Lisa has company in the: 'I'm Stoo-pid So I File Dumb Lawsuits' category. I saw a crawler on FoxNews this morning that CCSA, Anita Alvarez is filing a lawsuit against Wells Fargo Bank.
And the reason for this stoo-pid lawsuit you ask, well get ready...it's a doozy...y'all better sit down...here it comes
-->'Predatory Mortgage Lending that 'targeted' Minorities, The Poor, and Single Women'<--
Yep, Anita is going after Wells Fargo for giving mortgages to the exact f--king group of people that Obama, Jesse Jackson, and every Democrat sucking air in Wash DC *compelled banks* to give mortgages to! With the threat of the FedGov coming down on them like the wrath of God if they didn't seek these High-Risk deadbeats out for loans!
It's also kind of odd that Wells Fargo was singled out and not other big banks like say JP Morgan Chase. Not to mention that the 'Housing Bubble' / 'Mortgage Crisis' was a few years ago so it seems she's little late. Or maybe Wells Fargo didn't funnel enough money into Anita's checking account?
Anywho, I don't see how this lawsuit could win, though that may not be the goal. It could be a ploy just to get Wells Fargo rattled and settle for a tidy sum. The DOJ and the SEC does that on a regular basis -- Pay Us or Else!
Anonymous said...
OT: You know what, SCC? I was on the fence about Darren Wilson's indictment being returned as a "No True Bill", but after reading this coos well written opinion, my mind is made up. A trial could've really set him free and cleared his name. It's bad for Wilson the way the prosecutor handled it differently than any other case we would normally have sent to trial. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/28/prosecutor-used-grand-jury-to-let-darren-wilson-walk.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
11/29/2014 12:48:00 AM
You are so full of shit. So you want to send this case to trial? Then everytime a police officer shoots someone you want to send the officer to trial? Normally, the detectives bring the information to a prosecutor and he decides if charges will be brought. Is fo, the person is arrested and goes for a preliminary hearing then onto the grand jury or sometimes a direct indictment. By your standards, the courts would be overwhelmed and police officers would be subjected to the stress, turmoil and cost of trial and it would have taken about 2 years. You are a nitwit and buying into the hype that no police officer should ever shoot an unarmed person.
To the nitwit posting the daily beast article...the prosecutor did not even have to take it to a grand jury. He could have reviewed the overwhelming evidence in favor of Wilson and said this is justified. Also I'm tired of people comparing a police involved shooting to some type of gang banging ghetto murder. They are not the same! Jesus the ignorance of people over this case is insane.
Anonymous said...
Would anybody be surprised if they win the appeal?
11/29/2014 12:10:00 AM
Lisa Madidgan has, by law, an obligation to defend the state in these matters. But, there is case law that goes back decades that is on the side of Illinois. It could be overturned.
OT --
BREAKING: COPS: NYT Reporter Who Published #DarrenWilson Address Calling Cops Nonstop
November 29, 2014 by Charles C. Johnson
"The New York Times journalist who published Darren Wilson’s home address wants police protection and has been calling the police nonstop, Gotnews.com has learned.
"Julie Bosman “keeps calling the 020th District station complaining about people harassing and threatening her,” our source told us. She’s also “complaining about numerous food deliveries being sent to her residence.”
"Chicago police department sources alerted Gotnews.com about the glaring double standard on Friday.
"Gotnews.com published Julie Bosman’s address in Chicago after she published the address of Officer Darren Wilson and his new wife in a widely criticized move..."
http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-address-calling-cops-nonstop/
Why is she calling the police for protection? Call Occupy. They'll come out in their "Anonymous" masks, urine bottles at the ready.
How come the thieving, lying politicians never saw it as an emergency when they intentionally redirected pension deposits over the last 25-30 years?? They used legally required pension deposits as slush funds to do whatever they wanted with and now it's an emergency and the workers must pay the price via pension "reform"??
Bullshit. They made this bed now they must lay in it.
Lisa Madigan needs to put some of that effort into Daley!!! @@@@ing crook!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Would anybody be surprised if they win the appeal?
Yes
Anonymous said...
OT: You know what, SCC? I was on the fence about Darren Wilson's indictment being returned as a "No True Bill",
If you're reading posts at The Daily Beast, you're not on the fence - you're
on the left side of the fence
Off Topic:
How irresponsible journalists causes halfwits to riot.
Kevin Johnson, Meghan Hoyer and Brad Heath , USA TODAY lead sentence -
"Nearly two times a week in the United States, a white police officer killed a black person during a seven-year period ending in 2012"
In misleading journalist mumbo jumbo the truth stat is revealed in paragraph 2 -
"On average, there were 96 such incidents among at least 400 police killings each year that were reported to the FBI by local police"
Why not state the truth: In over 75% of police shooting reported to the FBI since 2005 there is no racial component whatsoever.
And here is another truth: Last year out of 2491 black murder victims 2245 were shot by other blacks. (2013 FBI stats)
These journalists and many others are literally shouting "fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire and should be held criminally liable for their actions.
The NY times reporter will be dealt with by followers of the Mocking Jay. Hunger Games is here.
I agree, even Gangster thugs new better than Lisa Madigan on respecting cops and their families..She will NOT win on appeal she a wanna be thug.
Lisa "baby" Madigan,needs to know those Daley days are over.People and watchdogs are watching you cannot steal like your daddy's hey hey days.
I use to like you baby Madigan. Now I just feel you always bn a puppet. Because if you wore the leader I thought you wore. You would of known better to not disrespect a judge ruling when there was a clear defense for the people by the people.
question... If we loose in the Illinois Supreme Court can we appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court? I somejow don't feel we have much on our side in the Il. Supreme Court considering Madigan has put everyone of them on the bench.
Any lawyers have any insight
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Two peop veele shot Friday night in the middle of the mag mile at Nordstrom. Domestic Related very hush in the middle of the biggest shopping day of the year. Wow.
11/29/2014 12:44:00 AM
Very hush? It led the news on at least two channels.
this move obviously enriches her friends and family.
Yes indeed the FLOP endorsed her! Glad I didn't follow their advice. They also endorse Acevedo another p.o.s.
Hey, bitch, that's a fine way to spend our limited tax dollars. Live with it or leave, hack.
Why do we fall for the 2 Madigans..never, ever trust them....bet they do more so we can do less with our pensions.
Politics at its finest what happen if we did not back her for AG. You guys are so not informed....keep it up ...Sgt class list coming Dean Jr number 34.. Good luck dean u make a great Sgt........
To 1248am. Have another one.
He was not charged because there was no evidence that suggested that he committed a crime. The only reason it went to grand jury was due to the attention the incident received and the fact the prosecutor's integrity was being called into question because his father was murdered. A grand jury was the only way out. Ass
Obama White House to Promote Ferguson Indoctrination – Including Classroom Memorials to Mike Brown
Posted by Kristinn Taylor on Friday, November 28, 2014, 9:20 PM
"Teaching moments..."
“Create a classroom memorial.
“During the first few weeks of classes, students can create a memorial to Michael Brown on a classroom bulletin board. This activity involves having students use whatever they feel skilled in to create something that would honor Michael Brown and other people who have been victims of police and other violence. Students may choose to draw, write poetry, design art pieces, paint, or collect news clippings. Students can use this opportunity to create a counter-narrative to negative stories and images about Ferguson and Michael Brown, or even to document stories and images they have seen in the media about the case. Engaging in this type of activity allows teachers to understand youth strengths and form classroom solidarity.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/obama-wh-to-promote-ferguson-indoctrination-classroom-memorials-to-mike-brown-student-letters-to-darren-wilson/
Fuck the democrats and also the U.N.
First Illinois state worker pensions, then police and fire will follow. FOP endorsement for Madigans again. FOP willing to cave in. FOP membership gets smaller COL salary raise than Aldermen. Raise the white flag FOP and surrender to Rahm.
Politics at its finest what happen if we did not back her for AG. You guys are so not informed....keep it up ...Sgt class list coming Dean Jr number 34.. Good luck dean u make a great Sgt........
11/29/2014 12:40:00 PM
What are you talking about?
I cannot believe this. A Ferguson protestor accidentally burned his own residence down after throwing a Molotov cocktail through his own front window. It was so smoky he thought the building was some other business or something. How could the fire department let this happen? Where were the undercover protest police to protect him from doing this by helping him get gas from the BP and showing him how to properly make it? At least then they could've cuffed and pinched him before he threw it. That makes for one more homeless family in the dead of winter.
http://dailycurrant.com/2014/11/26/ferguson-protester-accidentally-burns-down-own-house/
To the poster of the Daily Beast article, just becasue the. article was written by a cop doesn't.make him an expert. Read above explaining why he didnt go to trial. A prosecutor siding with police version doesn't make dor corruption or guilt. Though the jury was instructed to consider a law that was found to be unconstitutional in 1979.
Surprise Of The Day --
The police don't hate you.
But you got to give a little to get some back. Like everyone does.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/29/photo-boy-hugging-officer-at-portland-ferguson-protest-goes-viral/
Peace, all. Stay safe. God bless.
Anonymous said...
OT --
BREAKING: COPS: NYT Reporter Who Published #DarrenWilson Address Calling Cops Nonstop
November 29, 2014 by Charles C. Johnson
"The New York Times journalist who published Darren Wilson’s home address wants police protection and has been calling the police nonstop, Gotnews.com has learned.
"Julie Bosman “keeps calling the 020th District station complaining about people harassing and threatening her,” our source told us. She’s also “complaining about numerous food deliveries being sent to her residence.”
"Chicago police department sources alerted Gotnews.com about the glaring double standard on Friday.
"Gotnews.com published Julie Bosman’s address in Chicago after she published the address of Officer Darren Wilson and his new wife in a widely criticized move..."
http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-address-calling-cops-nonstop/
Why is she calling the police for protection? Call Occupy. They'll come out in their "Anonymous" masks, urine bottles at the ready.
11/29/2014 10:25:00 AM
Nooooooo!
No no no!
This is DIFFERENT damn it!
Y'see... That racist cop Darren Wilson deserved to have his new address outed because the Ferguson Grand Jury failed to "punish" him for killing the lefty lib-tard, white guilter & violent urban thug martyr, Saint Michael Brown.
"How DARE you conservative, right wing some-kind-of-phobes publish MY address!"
Lolz @ having Occupy standing guard at her residence with crates of piss/shit bottles instead of the much hated and reviled Police.
Julie Bosman is a whining coward and a fucking hypocrite for seeking Police protection.
This smug, clueless and self-satisfied bitch is yet another far too cutesy, smart and clever lefty who laughed up their sleeves at people who serve in manly, martial endeavors that stand for a "something" that their "equality means everybody must squat to pee" ilk can't wrap their little propeller heads around like Policing and the Military.
The cultural script has been flipped and now it seems that Policemen and Military members are the ones who are "wrong," "funny in the head" and in dire need fixing/changing/reprogramming.
As far as The Police go?
The flipping of he cultural script is making it easy
for government sponsored by the highest corporate
bidders to go all in and try to bust us out of our earned and lawfully contributed (only on our parts) pensions.
"Fuck 'em... They're only cops."
Our military brethren are hearing similar shit-talk...
These white guilting, loony-left, Alinskite aligned fools want to hamstring, bog down and emasculate these institutions with nanny state feel-good, "let's enact more rules" bullshit to gain their utopia.
The motherfuckers who got picked last for playground games are now in charge?
Slightly O/T:
We came across something that sums up the sorry state of affairs.
Teachers and administrators at a public school banned all "ball type competitive games" at recess...
O_o? o_o? o_O?
Do you or do you NOT fear for this nation's future?
Can you or can you NOT see that rules are being changed, processes are being gamed and power is being taken away from upright people to effect a course of correction at the grassroots and national levels with the soon to be democratic voting hordes being waved over to insure that we won't be able to take this nation back?
When do the first anatomically correct, life sized Gummy-Skulls on a Stick show up on a Walgreens end cap?
-Hecho en Some Un-Godly Place-
With questionable at best food processing practices.
>Motion activated flashing eyes and a heavily accented recorded voice: "Ha-Haaa! Yoor Focked America!"<
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/obama-wh-to-promote-ferguson-indoctrination-classroom-memorials-to-mike-brown-student-letters-to-darren-wilson/
11/29/2014 01:29:00 PM
Yes, maybe the students can reenact the entire matter with the teacher being the police officer, one of the other teachers being the cigar store owner, and the students punching the crap out of them both.
Lisa Madigan is not clear to run for Illinois governor and will get endorsed by just about every news organization and union. No one will care that she has spent the past 8 years looking the other way on political corruption. Rauner barely won and he carried every county but Cook and the state is buried in debt,patronage and corruption. People in this state vote over whelming democratic and seem to pay no attention to what is going on.
Lisa does what Daddy says.
The Illinois Combine is getting desperate...
They stole from the workers for years so now they're looking for relief...
They threw a forty year long party.
The pipers need to be paid.
The government workers who were kept away from the party even though it was THEIR money, are going to be on the hook for paying.
This is so wrong on so many levels.
It's too much like right to honor the law.
The dirty bastards like Mike Madigan seek to overturn/change/subvert the law to their own design and purpose.
I got a flat tire on the way to work last night so I'm blaming FOP.
Let's draft our own write in candidate for mayor! I pushing Brock Merec.
OT: Nordstrom should get those no guns allowed signs to avoid these senseless tragedies.
The FOP should ask if she is asking for her and her father's pension to be diminished. The useless unions need to go on the offensive.
“During the first few weeks of classes, students can create a memorial to Michael Brown on a classroom bulletin board. This activity involves having students use whatever they feel skilled in to create something that would honor Michael Brown and other people who have been victims of police and other violence. Students may choose to draw, write poetry, design art pieces, paint, or collect news clippings. Students can use this opportunity to create a counter-narrative to negative stories and images about Ferguson and Michael Brown, or even to document stories and images they have seen in the media about the case. Engaging in this type of activity allows teachers to understand youth strengths and form classroom solidarity.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/obama-wh-to-promote-ferguson-indoctrination-classroom-memorials-to-mike-brown-student-letters-to-darren-wilson/
11/29/2014 01:29:00 PM
I'm thinking a blunt (displays manual dexterity), a mugshot (photography skillset) and maybe a digital recording of step-daddy's touching, emotional salute to Brown, on a continuous loop..."Burn this bitch down, burn this bitch down" would be a fitting and respectful tribute.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Would anybody be surprised if they win the appeal?
11/29/2014 12:10:00 AM
Lisa Madidgan has, by law, an obligation to defend the state in these matters. But, there is case law that goes back decades that is on the side of Illinois. It could be overturned.
11/29/2014 09:49:00 AM
Yes, she is obligated to do so.
She also stated she plans to use the exact same argument she used in her last, losing pension case.
"Your Sugar, Your Spice, Your Every Thing Nice, and Your Daddy's Little Girl"
"With All Our Rage, We Are Still, Just Rats, In A Cage"
>>>Anonymous said...
“During the first few weeks of classes, students can create a memorial to Michael Brown on a classroom bulletin board. This activity involves having students use whatever they feel skilled in to create something that would honor Michael Brown and other people who have been victims of police and other violence. Students may choose to draw, write poetry, design art pieces, paint, or collect news clippings. Students can use this opportunity to create a counter-narrative to negative stories and images about Ferguson and Michael Brown, or even to document stories and images they have seen in the media about the case. Engaging in this type of activity allows teachers to understand youth strengths and form classroom solidarity.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/obama-wh-to-promote-ferguson-indoctrination-classroom-memorials-to-mike-brown-student-letters-to-darren-wilson/
11/29/2014 01:29:00 PM<<<
Oh really now. What a hero to the African American community. All little boys want to grow up to be like Mike Brown. I bet if he were still around he would be taking BHO's daughters to the prom.
I can see a new add campaign featuring the likeness of Michel Brown, SWISHER SWEETS The Cigar of Thug Life Worth Dyeing For"
"...maybe a digital recording of step-daddy's touching, emotional salute to Brown, on a continuous loop..."Burn this bitch down, burn this bitch down" would be a fitting and respectful tribute."
11/29/2014 08:54:00 PM
Just what you'd expect from stone blood did 7 years MDOC for dealing...
Mama sure got the red out her hair quick. After the all-expense-paid testimony in Geneva about "torture!" where no squarehead, well-intentioned Swiss pol would have picked it up...
Ya gotta love 'em.
"The cultural script has been flipped and now it seems that Policemen and Military members are the ones who are "wrong," "funny in the head" and in dire need fixing/changing/reprogramming."
11/29/2014 05:55:00 PM
Police shut down mysterious 'Oath Keepers' guarding rooftops in downtown Ferguson
"FERGUSON • Following a night of arson fires and bashed storefronts that hit close to home, Greg Hildebrand stood naked Tuesday, drying off from a needed shower, when he noticed somebody on the rooftop.
“I opened the window and said, ‘Hey, can I help you?’” said Hildebrand, 35, a website developer.
"The man said he was security and would be up there at night with others to protect the pocket of second-story apartments and lower-level storefronts near the Ferguson Police Department. A day earlier, rioters had broken out windows below Hildebrand’s apartment in the 100 block of South Florissant Road and torched a nearby beauty supply store.
“I am in the middle of a difficult spot,” Hildebrand said. “I feel a lot better having those guys up on the roof.”
"But he wasn’t clear exactly who “those guys” were or where they came from.
"Puzzled and alarmed protesters have wondered, too — some accusing the mysterious guards in military fatigues of being in the Ku Klux Klan.
"In fact, they are volunteers affiliated with a 35,000-member national organization called Oath Keepers. Yale Law School graduate and libertarian Stewart Rhodes said by telephone from Montana that he founded the group in 2009 to protect constitutional rights, including those of protesters confronted by what he described as overly militarized police.
"Police questioned group members early in the week and allowed them to stay. But Saturday, after media inquiries, St. Louis County police officers ordered the Oath Keepers to leave the rooftops.
"[One] leader, who would give only his first name, Sam, described himself as a weapons engineer from the St. Louis area who has done security contracting for the U.S. government. He said he was motivated to help after seeing a CNN story featuring extensive damage to Natalie’s Cake’s & More, which also helped generate thousands of dollars in donations for the small business.
"Sam said he contacted owner Natalie Dubose and told her he was going to secure her store and others.
“She started crying,” Sam said.
"Oath Keepers boarded up a bunch of the storefronts and started night rotations on several rooftops. Sam said he vetted volunteers to ensure there weren’t any “racists” or “people with an ax to grind.” He said he picked volunteers who “have seen the elephant and are calm under fire.”
"Fearing more arsonists, Oath Keeper volunteers kept buckets of water, fire extinguishers and other nonlethal weapons on the rooftops. Some are also armed with rifles that aren’t available at Walmart and Cabela’s..."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/mysterious-oath-keepers-guard-rooftops-in-downtown-ferguson/article_f90b6edd-acf8-52e3-a020-3a78db286194.html
F__kups can't deploy the Guard except to watch over smoking ruins the next morning. Here they got the best -- taking time away from their own homes and families on Thanksgiving -- and they chase them off...
Typical.
New York Times reporters Julie Bosman and Campbell Robertson published the address of Darren Wilson in the New York Times so here are their addresses.
GotNews.com strenuously objects to publishing the addresses of individuals who are being targeted with death threats.
GotNews.com published the address of Ebola patient Nina Pham so that people could avoid going to her Dallas apartment.
But it would also be wrong to publish the addresses of journalists without their consent.
It would be wrong, for example, to publish Bosman’s address at
5620 N WAYNE AVE APT 2
CHICAGO, IL 60660-4204
COOK COUNTY
It would be similarly wrong to publish the address of Robertson, too.
1113 N DUPRE ST
NEW ORLEANS, LA 70119-3203
ORLEANS COUNTY
So why do journalists think they are beyond examination?
How does it advance the story to know where Darren Wilson and his newly wed live?
Just struck my mind that the original "Oath Keepers" story, which described volunteers as "intensely-trained active-duty police officers, military veterans, EMTs, and other first responders" was heavily neutered and redacted by the time I got around to putting it up here...
Figures.
OT Anyone else see Tiny Dancer shamelessly asking for happy birthday tweets and requests to sign his electronic birthday card? @rahmemanuel #itssuckstobeanasshole #whennoonecarestosendtgeverybest
Any pension changes such as moving current employees into 401k should be meant with residency reform,just like Philly PD 7 and out.This keeps the property tax base stable along with home values.a
Since protests are so popular these days , why don't you guys and all ur comrades state-wide , set a date and stage a gigantic protest in front of the State Capitol building down in Springfield . It's appalling the way this is being 'handled' and if anyone deserves better treatment it's you guys . Peace & good luck .
Anonymous said...
The FOP should ask if she is asking for her and her father's pension to be diminished. The useless unions need to go on the offensive.
11/29/2014 08:51:00PM
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Have you heard of "We Are One"?
Did you get on a bus to go to Springfield? Have you shown up to your State Rep's or State Senator's office to personally express our concern's?
I didn't think so.
Anonymous said...
I cannot believe this. A Ferguson protestor accidentally burned his own residence down after throwing a Molotov cocktail through his own front window. It was so smoky he thought the building was some other business or something. How could the fire department let this happen? Where were the undercover protest police to protect him from doing this by helping him get gas from the BP and showing him how to properly make it? At least then they could've cuffed and pinched him before he threw it. That makes for one more homeless family in the dead of winter.
http://dailycurrant.com/2014/11/26/ferguson-protester-accidentally-burns-down-own-house/
11/29/2014 04:14:00 PM
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WOW what is even more amazing is how many people believed this story and weren't curious to why only 1 media sourest published such a story. If you did any research you would of found out that this is a"satire" website.
And I bet you scored real high on the detective test.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I got a flat tire on the way to work last night so I'm blaming FOP.
Let's draft our own write in candidate for mayor! I pushing Brock Merec.
11/29/2014 07:35:00 PM
I thought about Merec, but I'm leaning toward Pat Paulson. I like his style.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
question... If we loose in the Illinois Supreme Court can we appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court? I somejow don't feel we have much on our side in the Il. Supreme Court considering Madigan has put everyone of them on the bench.
Any lawyers have any insight
11/29/2014 11:09:00 AM
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I think they can but SCOTUS is hesitant to get involved in interpreting constitutions of individual states. I may be wrong ...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I cannot believe this. A Ferguson protestor accidentally burned his own residence down after throwing a Molotov cocktail through his own front window. It was so smoky he thought the building was some other business or something. How could the fire department let this happen? Where were the undercover protest police to protect him from doing this by helping him get gas from the BP and showing him how to properly make it? At least then they could've cuffed and pinched him before he threw it. That makes for one more homeless family in the dead of winter.
http://dailycurrant.com/2014/11/26/ferguson-protester-accidentally-burns-down-own-house/
11/29/2014 04:14:00 PM
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WOW what is even more amazing is how many people believed this story and weren't curious to why only 1 media sourest published such a story. If you did any research you would of found out that this is a"satire" website.
And I bet you scored real high on the detective test.
11/30/2014 01:45:00 AM
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Hey, in fairness, he did start his post with 'I can't believe this'. ;-)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
question... If we loose in the Illinois Supreme Court can we appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court? I somejow don't feel we have much on our side in the Il. Supreme Court considering Madigan has put everyone of them on the bench.
Any lawyers have any insight
11/29/2014 11:09:00 AM
Wouldn't panic yet. In a downstate case regarding retirees healthcare benefit being included in our pension protection, the Illinois supreme court ruled in our favor. Only one judge dissented, Judge Anne Burke
Read the story here
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-mcqueary-perspec-0725-20140725-story.html
Anonymous said...
question... If we loose in the Illinois Supreme Court can we appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court? I somejow don't feel we have much on our side in the Il. Supreme Court considering Madigan has put everyone of them on the bench.
Any lawyers have any insight
11/29/2014 11:09:00 AM
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I think they can but SCOTUS is hesitant to get involved in interpreting constitutions of individual states. I may be wrong ...
11/30/2014 08:54:00 AM
Case started in state court system, not federal court system. It would have to have some serious US Constitutional issues for SCOTUS to take the case. I doubt it. Nothing in the US Constitution about pension benefits.
"When do the first anatomically correct, life sized Gummy-Skulls on a Stick show up on a Walgreens end cap?"
11/29/2014 05:55:00 PM
Probably when they run out of the pink caps.
"We save lives every day just by selling shampoo and potato chips. Every 19-year-old checkout girl in the store is your doctor." Some employees believe those T-shirts they're made to wear...
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