Hardly a Ringing Endorsement
From the comments:
- All the Lieutenants in 005 bid out except 1...yep the 10 hour days are great
When the white shirts bid out, something is definitely wrong.
And probably another reason that the Department won't open citywide bids.
And probably another reason that the Department won't open citywide bids.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
58 Comments:
Please tell me Masters from 011 bid out!!!!
I talked to personnel (HR)and they are busy with retiring PO's every day. I recently heard from a retiree that when they retired, they had to wait in line due to so many retiring PO's showing up at once. I grant you that this was at the beginning of the year, but small wonder we are undermanned at all levels...I am personally tired of worrying whether there will be a pension at the end of the road for me. Makes me want to jump ship. Will the last officer please turn out the light, and take down the upside down flag???
Lts loved the schedule. Problem was most of them lived in 016. Stop the conspiracy theories. The 10 hour schedule sucks. But that wasn't why they left.
They bid out because they live in 016, the majority of them so hardly a ringing non-endorsement.
They all bid out because it's 005!
McHighlyPaidPantShitter
has to have hostages for the 10 hour day to "work."
And if you don't like it?
Just quit already!
God forbid HIS life gets fucked with.
Never you mind the 9k of the rest of everybody else.
It's like the survivor accounts of the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami.
They knew something was wrong when all the birds were flying their asses off getting away from the shore.
The Lieutenants are no fools.
There's no shame in Policemen exercising self preservation in the face of a Police Politician
needing sacrifices to make it look like he knows
what the fuck he's doing while burning Policemen
at both ends.
Not too long ago many showed up at the FOP meetings demanding the 10.5 hr. Shifts. Things sure have changed.
The 10 hours days are sorta Okay. Ya just have to get used to them.
DEANO FLOP SILENT
POs getting Fuked and our dues money is going for what
Like they always say Youll need legal defense one day ... BULLSHIT
I'm hearing its not because of the 10 hour schedule they're leaving but it's because of the new Commander and his management style. He's already making waves.
Instead of focusing on a plan for the District's daily multiple shootings he's to busy sweating his supervisors and officers for the small stuff and kicking back honorable mentions for nonsense. Another merit bright star! We give him less than a year B4 the local politicians and "revruns" in the District run him off!
Id bet its not just the 10 hour days...
The ten hour day is coming. Rahm has found this will save the city 90 million dollars. Screw what the police say, they can all resign and be replaced with cheaper labor.
Will they find another garden spot to go to?
Do as I say not as I do
They probably huddled up and drew straws so they each can get the hell out to there
At a minimum 8 or 9 Sgts are trying to bid out of 005. Thats those who will admit it. The number will be higher.
Sent Lott there, she will fix everything.
Why did one stay?
How about one forty hour day with:
(5) lunches an (10) personals or
(1) 5 hour break
(1) 40 hour VRI a week
(1) 40 hour CTA
Include pension contributions from VRI. You can continue working VRI part time when you retire. This also allows you to have insurance. One can retire 20 and out like NY. Wazap wazap
They cannot just screw us and think we won't resist. .....
A mass exodus is also awaiting in 003! It looks like the Commander has lost his damn mind with all the shootings. He's always harping on beat integrity and wants us to stay on our beat but with all the shootings, priority and not to mention bullshit calls it's virtually impossible. He's had officers counseled and disciplined for bullshit and everyone including the supervisors are fed up with it. Last week and an FTO was ordered to drop a to/from on why he wrote a ticket with his 2 recruits off his beat? Are you fucking serious? What kind of message does this send to them and everyone else who has been pushing the beat for years and well before his arrival? So because this officer was proactive and observed a violation on another beat he gets reprimanded? That move right there Bossman just shut down the little activity that was being generated by your beat cars particularly on 1st and 2nd watch.
The only reason your contact cards are slightly up is because of all the two year morons in Tact that will eventually get caught up for unconstitutionally writing a contact card for bullshit. Get rid of Jones and bring back GE. GE was as crazy as they come but he always took care of the working coppers and never intentionally hurt anyone. He was a fair man no matter who you were and where you came from. If you weren't doing your job he would flip out but for the most part 003 was a much better place for us to work and a better place to live for the community.
Anonymous said...
Lts loved the schedule. Problem was most of them lived in 016. Stop the conspiracy theories. The 10 hour schedule sucks. But that wasn't why they left.
4/20/2015 12:09:00 AM
BS!!!! That's just what they said so word don't get back to McFuckTheSchedule and Russell
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not too long ago many showed up at the FOP meetings demanding the 10.5 hr. Shifts. Things sure have changed.
4/20/2015 12:42:00 AM
Quit making sh!t up. And stay off the blog, Dean
Think it has to do with more of all the shooting Packets, post shooting missions ect than the 10hr day. And wouldn't you bid out of area 2 if you had a chance? I did 10yrs ago and never looked back.
This had NOTHING to do to that GREAT schedule the AWESOME Supe gave the boys in 005!
Those Lt's left because the lack of fine ding in Roseland. I mean, C'mon. You finally made it, you are on top of the world make $130,000 and all you can find to eat in McDonald's??? Time to bid out.
A.) Lts. in 005 liked the 10hr day because its only a 4.5 hr day for them. They're still at traditional strength.
B.) 005 sucks.
C.) They all live in 016.
B and C win out.
Future 1st Deputy Lott will make the necessary changes to please all.
Here are the facts. 4 out of the 5 that bid out live in 016. Two stayed. The ten hour day is great.
in 5 and think the 10 hour day is perfect for family life , I don't work part time jobs
three 4 day weekends , take time due and have four 4 day weekends
quit your bitching already
The Lt's love the schedule, they only work 7 hours a day. Everyone of them bid closer to home. The real test is if they ever open bids for PO's or Sgt.s Both work the full 10 crappy hours.
Like the pompous ass McNutjob says " get on board with it or get out".
Great way to look out for the troops and their well being.
if the 10.5 hours are so great and the days off are so bountiful, then why wouldn't the LT's want to make that 28 mile sacrificial drive everyday? Answer: They are towing the company line when they say they like it, but actions are louder then words...The one Lt that stayed had bid in previously.
You read it here first:
*** Special Departmental Infomation Announcement***
District 005 (currently referred to as Hotel California) has been renamed District 016.
This change will take effect whenever there is more than one (1) Unit Opening anywhere else.
If its coming no matter what lets all atleast try to ensure provisions are in place to adjust for vacation time (i get working days not hours b*tch) and that goes for holidays & court too
I talked to personnel (HR)and they are busy with retiring PO's every day. I recently heard from a retiree that when they retired, they had to wait in line due to so many retiring PO's showing up at once. I grant you that this was at the beginning of the year, but small wonder we are undermanned at all levels...I am personally tired of worrying whether there will be a pension at the end of the road for me. Makes me want to jump ship. Will the last officer please turn out the light, and take down the upside down flag
WAIT TILL THE BEGINNING OF 2017, that's when probably 1500 leave if they re 55 because the 2% kicks in in june for the medical if they don t retire.The big classes from 1990 will be leaving.
He lives in 22 and the other is tact lt, 2 stayed.
Oh yeah kiss-ass. Like the Lt's STAYED the whole fucking tour.
U a company man on knees all the way, #idiot.
10 hour days in my humble opinion suck. I know I am out numbered by an outspoken bunch, but I believe there is a silent majority out there...
But here is the real on the 10 Hour day...
Yes you get more days off, but it is like working 1st watch. You spend your first day catching up on some very necessary downtime. (Sleep)...or walk around like a Zombie...I've done it. Sleep Deprivation is no way to a happy life...
CPD is a 24 hour business. There is no way to split shifts up and be fair to all. Much less, issue squad cars, and radios, and Tasers, and etc... Someone's going to get the shaft doing reports at the desk. Operations demand the majority of Police on the late PM hours. Someone's going to get 1800-0400hrs shifts. There are those who may like it and they will speak up and say so. (The empty barrel makes the most noise). When someone else has a sweet deal that fits them, they will always speak up louder for themselves. (narcissists) Ask around...I'll retire before I do those hours again.
We can go to 2 shifts if we do 12 hour shifts. Other wise, 8 hours is the only way to go. Family planning is way easier around an 8 hour shift. If you think differently, you have never worked a 10 hour watch...
Add in going to court to those who are so inclined, and it becomes a nightmare. Ask for another day off to go to a graduation, or a wedding, and maybe get denied. Change your day off and your Bio clock is totally screwed. Spend all day at 26 & Cal., then straight off to work. You'll see your kids when they are grown, and want a new car...Ask any Detective in VC. If they like 10 hour shifts, if they do, it's because they are on the second watch...
LOOK before you leap people!!! CPD management wants this because it solves manpower issues. This does nothing for our pensions! I for one will not work the shitty hours, so someone else with less time can get the shaft. Seniority still counts for something. So PO's with less than 10 years on can just shut up and save the outcry...for someone who cares. We will get the Department we deserve people. And it will reflect the government we have already elected...
A word to the wise...
A mass exodus is also awaiting in 003! It looks like the Commander has lost his damn mind with all the shootings. He's always harping on beat integrity and wants us to stay on our beat but with all the shootings, priority and not to mention bullshit calls it's virtually impossible. He's had officers counseled and disciplined for bullshit and everyone including the supervisors are fed up with it. Last week and an FTO was ordered to drop a to/from on why he wrote a ticket with his 2 recruits off his beat? Are you fucking serious? What kind of message does this send to them and everyone else who has been pushing the beat for years and well before his arrival? So because this officer was proactive and observed a violation on another beat he gets reprimanded? That move right there Bossman just shut down the little activity that was being generated by your beat cars particularly on 1st and 2nd watch.
The only reason your contact cards are slightly up is because of all the two year morons in Tact that will eventually get caught up for unconstitutionally writing a contact card for bullshit. Get rid of Jones and bring back GE. GE was as crazy as they come but he always took care of the working coppers and never intentionally hurt anyone. He was a fair man no matter who you were and where you came from. If you weren't doing your job he would flip out but for the most part 003 was a much better place for us to work and a better place to live for the community.
4/20/2015 08:57:00 AM
I see that they keep writing contact cards for traffic violations only, recently amended G.O put a stop to that stating it didn't warrant a contact card, yet they keep writing them in 003 and they get approved !!! making them look like rockstars with high numbers yet violating the G.Os !
The 2 that stayed are north siders. 1 tact LT and 1 2nd watch Lt. The 1 southside Lt bid to 022.
Anonymous said...
Think it has to do with more of all the shooting Packets, post shooting missions ect than the 10hr day. And wouldn't you bid out of area 2 if you had a chance? I did 10yrs ago and never looked back.
4/20/2015 09:20:00 AM
Ding Ding Ding.There is the Winner.I bid out 6yrs ago for good,ie retired, due to clueless dana,carter, and lackeys.... some of who are serving fed time now, some who just got promoted to capt.......clueless suck holes still drinking the shit from hq.
Men?-No.Leaders of men?-Not a fucking chance.
Living comfortably now w/o the know nothings blindly steering the ship.
I miss the fun of the job,but not the asshole "bosses". Wait, I think I'm over it.
Stay Safe Officers.
there's a mcdonalds in 005???
Anonymous said...
He lives in 22 and the other is tact lt, 2 stayed.
4/20/2015 04:04:00 PM
Wrong bucko.....He lives in 20.
Please make 10hr days citywide. 4 day weekends are great. Burn a day and you're enjoying a baby furlough. Only problem is I know they're trying to hide our low man power. I say bring the 10hrs but don't forget to fill our gaps so we can actually take a day off and not have to worry about putting it in the book 4 months in advance.
What's the difference if they open anything up coppers in 005 have under 5 years making a PAR form useless unless they are moving over to 004 or 003.A few old timers will bid out but most are stuck because of lack of seniority.
Anonymous said...
A mass exodus is also awaiting in 003! It looks like the Commander has lost his damn mind with all the shootings. He's always harping on beat integrity and wants us to stay on our beat but with all the shootings, priority and not to mention bullshit calls it's virtually impossible. He's had officers counseled and disciplined for bullshit and everyone including the supervisors are fed up with it. Last week and an FTO was ordered to drop a to/from on why he wrote a ticket with his 2 recruits off his beat? Are you fucking serious? What kind of message does this send to them and everyone else who has been pushing the beat for years and well before his arrival? So because this officer was proactive and observed a violation on another beat he gets reprimanded? That move right there Bossman just shut down the little activity that was being generated by your beat cars particularly on 1st and 2nd watch.
The only reason your contact cards are slightly up is because of all the two year morons in Tact that will eventually get caught up for unconstitutionally writing a contact card for bullshit. Get rid of Jones and bring back GE. GE was as crazy as they come but he always took care of the working coppers and never intentionally hurt anyone. He was a fair man no matter who you were and where you came from. If you weren't doing your job he would flip out but for the most part 003 was a much better place for us to work and a better place to live for the community.
4/20/2015 08:57:00 AM
I see that they keep writing contact cards for traffic violations only, recently amended G.O put a stop to that stating it didn't warrant a contact card, yet they keep writing them in 003 and they get approved !!! making them look like rockstars with high numbers yet violating the G.Os !
4/20/2015 06:42:00 PM
STOP WITH THE CONTACT CARDS. Call legal affairs and the union. The rules are clear. Don't do them unless you have reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or will be committed. Don't do it. It's not worth it.
Fact: court deviations have doubled since the 10 hour day in 005 was started...and production has gone down %50 and all these genius clouted white shirts can't figure out why?
10 hour days? Surveys are ways to just pacify the masses! The city has thebrightbti adjust hours as it sees fit like any other employer the deal is done, don't let your blood pressure explode over something you cannot control! Sit back relax enjoy the money while it lasts, VRI will be a memory, the police dept works in cycles everything comes back to the beginning eventually it will All work out!
The 10 hr is great, it's the starting time especially for 3rd watch that's the problem. For the 3rd watch you are basically working midnights.
I see that they keep writing contact cards for traffic violations only, recently amended G.O put a stop to that stating it didn't warrant a contact card, yet they keep writing them in 003 and they get approved !!! making them look like rockstars with high numbers yet violating the G.Os !
4/20/2015 06:42:00 PM
STOP WITH THE CONTACT CARDS. Call legal affairs and the union. The rules are clear. Don't do them unless you have reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or will be committed. Don't do it. It's not worth it.
If a person committed a traffic violation - didn't they "just commit a crime" ?
Go back to rotating shifts. The department hasn't been the same since steady watches were stuck in our ass's!!!!!!
Fact: court deviations have doubled since the 10 hour day in 005 was started...and production has gone down %50 and all these genius clouted white shirts can't figure out why?
4/21/2015 01:16:00 AM
production of what? contact cards?
I see that they keep writing contact cards for traffic violations only, recently amended G.O put a stop to that stating it didn't warrant a contact card, yet they keep writing them in 003 and they get approved !!! making them look like rockstars with high numbers yet violating the G.Os !
4/20/2015 06:42:00 PM
STOP WITH THE CONTACT CARDS. Call legal affairs and the union. The rules are clear. Don't do them unless you have reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or will be committed. Don't do it. It's not worth it.
If a person committed a traffic violation - didn't they "just commit a crime" ?
4/21/2015 06:36:00 AM
I see they need to explain this again for the 100th time. A traffic violation is not an investigatory stop, if you observed the violation then write the ticket or don't. O r feel free to violate a G.O , i'm sure it will all go okay in court !
Go back to rotating shifts. The department hasn't been the same since steady watches were stuck in our ass's!!!!!!
Fuck You!!! That shit was insane.
"WAIT TILL THE BEGINNING OF 2017, that's when probably 1500 leave if they re 55 because the 2% kicks in in june for the medical if they don t retire.The big classes from 1990 will be leaving."
This makes sense...there is already a two tier pension system in place. the city is probably waiting till the bulk of the 90's hiring blitz goes away. Then another blitz to make up for numerical shortages.
Someone should call George Noory.
Anonymous said...
I see that they keep writing contact cards for traffic violations only, recently amended G.O put a stop to that stating it didn't warrant a contact card, yet they keep writing them in 003 and they get approved !!! making them look like rockstars with high numbers yet violating the G.Os !
4/20/2015 06:42:00 PM
STOP WITH THE CONTACT CARDS. Call legal affairs and the union. The rules are clear. Don't do them unless you have reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or will be committed. Don't do it. It's not worth it.
If a person committed a traffic violation - didn't they "just commit a crime" ?
4/21/2015 06:36:00 AM
I see they need to explain this again for the 100th time. A traffic violation is not an investigatory stop, if you observed the violation then write the ticket or don't. O r feel free to violate a G.O , i'm sure it will all go okay in court !
4/21/2015 09:30:00 AM
G.O. is very clear! Not for traffic violations. Do them if you want. I'm sure the department will back you along with the bosses who encourage contact cards. Call the union, legal affairs and Corp counsel. Know what you can and can't do before you put yourself in the sh*t hole.
10 hr shifts sux. Unless you work 8.5 hrs like we used to work in a unit. Then its tolerable. If not, you better have some seniority to ease the pain as much as possible. Under 15 yrs will hate not having a good watch or furlough or comp time for quite some time. Those without seniority will have to suck it up !
The 10.5 hour days are not worth it. There are only 2 watches. Days and midnights. They overlap eachother with a couple different start times. If you work the late midnight car you start at 2000 hrs, at 0430 you and the rest of the ppl that started at 2000 are the only cars up in the whole district until 0600 when days gets out there (really like 630) so if you were planning on taking your kids to school or relieving your wife/husband before they went to work your SOL. Traffic accidents, burglaries, DUI's and drunken domestics are common in 05 at the 0430-0600 window.
- if you have lower seniority in your district expect to flop start times daily ranging from one night 2000 start and the next day at 1630. This happens every single day to the folk with under 5 years (in a rookie district) I bet would range from 10-15 years on in better districts.
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