As Predicted
- Linda Sabor says Obamacare was a godsend. As the health care law enters its third year, her faith is starting to waver.
Last month, her insurance company gave the 59-year-old Palatine resident some bad news. Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Illinois canceled the health plan that she and her husband have had the past two years. The company offered a plan for next year that has a similar network and benefits that would cost $1,142.24 a month, $325 more than their current monthly premium.
"We can't afford $1,142 a month," Sabor said. "Our income isn't going up $300 a month."
Illinois residents are dealing with hefty inflation when they log on to HealthCare.gov for the Affordable Care Act's third open enrollment season, which began Nov. 1. Some health care consumers are seeing rate increases of 40 percent or more. Rate increases for the lowest-cost plans in the majority of counties are in the 15 to 20 percent range, according to the Illinois Department of Insurance.
More than half of the state exchanges have gone bankrupt and folded already, which everyone who could count knew was going to happen. But hey, when your policies are funded by fantasy dollars and unicorn farts, anything is possible - including doubling the national debt in less than four years.
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posted by SCC at 1:33 AM
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$21 trillion in debt by 2016. Anybody wonder what will happen if our creditors say 'pay up'?
I wonder if anybody in the media will ask Obama that.
Unicorn farts....I love it.
Despite all of the above, many people think Obamacare is a Godsend. Democrats do not like the truth.
Obama is an IDIOT! Worst President in modern times! Hey pres, put your useless Library in New York! You are an embarrassment to Chicago!
And remember to thank a liberal each and every time you meet one. They voted for this moron not once but twice.
I can't even imagine what a unicorn fart smells like.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
I'll bet the Sabors always vote democrat.
But what the hell, let's help bring more fucking refugees here!
HaHa on us.
$1,100 per month (BCBS) buys me admission to both hospitals in my county. It covers only two-person semi-private rooms. The two hospitals now have only single-person private rooms, after renovations. Oops. Rooms are $3,500 per night, maximum allowable charges are $1,400, the $2,100 is balance billed.
The network includes 4 GPs, the other 50 are out of network. No surgeons, cardiologists, neurologists in the network. Anything outside my home county is out of network, no travel for me. Out of network expenses do not count toward the $7,000 deductible.
Before Obama I had great coverage for $250 a month. No thanks.
Oh stop whining Linda. You now have the healthcare you deserve. You get to keep your doctor, you get to keep your insurance AND healthcare will be more affordable and accessible to everyone. So we will pass the 1200+ page law before we read and debate it and all live happily ever after. She is complainig about the costs now? As the law moves forward in 2016 with more provisions kicking in during subsequent years, in terms of costs you haven't seen anything yet baby. Linda, you have the government you want so if you do not join in the thought of right sizing government and selecting candiates and not parties, you are screwed baby. No Republicans voted for Obama care. NONE! They screwed up plenty of other things. But this healthcare is the sole creation of big government Democrats.
Unicorn farts = coffee snort. Thanks.
the 'affordable' premiums are there. just don't get sick or injured. nobody in the Obama media ever bothered to look at what you really get from this nonsense. the copays and deductibles are enough to put you in the poor house. only benefit I see is the discount rate negotiated by big insurance. most likely what it is only worth in the first place. take a gander at bcBS web site. it is pretty disgusting. this ACA virus has also infected medicare advantage plans as well. very easy to make a bad decision. this is the result of all the free medical bestowed upon people that have no business here in the first place.
HEY - ALL those who voted Obama in this state in the last election can go pound sand.
You were SO BRIGHT in voting for "the right candidate", well now you can come up with all the money it is going to cost everyone to support these half-baked ideas.
Forget "voting the first woman in for President". Wake up and start voting in someone who is competent!
How can you tell if Obama is lying ? He opens his mouth.
how can one person fuck up so many things in such short period of time?
Obamacare is NOT socialism.
Obamacare is corporate socialism. Obamacare strengthened the hold of health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and hospital care providers.
Then you have United Nations like nazi type gesture ordering in countries to take in illegal invaders:
http://news.yahoo.com/un-warns-states-against-backtracking-migrant-commitments-110254476.html
Why when president Trump takes office he keeps talking about major powers Russia,China,Japan etc meet with these leaders we don't need this United Nations nonsense to cost us trillions in climate change lies, forcing us into wars we were a feared superpower Trump is going to enhance military "make us so powerful no one would dare mess with us" we need dramatic change for us to coin elected constantly saying "for the children "
The useful idiots don't realize that it was planned like this. The rates will go up until the system crashes. Then we will get the British style single payer system.
I guess Rick Hendrick is demanding more Blue Cross Blue Shield to sponsor his NASCAR teams, the logo is on their uniforms.
Uhhhh, its not only Obummer care, has anyone been watching what our contribution is going up to for the ppo option. Can you say 25%! And check out the the list of providers who will now actually accept the ppo. Dr. Bendova seems to be the only one still accepting the plan!
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obamacare-tax-credits-Congress-Supreme-Court/2014/11/10/id/606325/
I work in the health care business. You "haven't seen nothing yet".
I'm in the same boat.
Excellent article - what took the Tribune so long to write it?
Do we have any option? Is anyone fighting for the little guy?
I opted out of city plan. Obamacare was good for two years. I got a $200 increase for next year. I have $6000 deductible and this year, a bad one healthwise, I have paid $5000 out of pocket. I am almost tempted to get no insurance and pay the penalty. Hospitals are willing to take payments.we shall see
It was designed to fail so they could attain their ultimate goal of single payer "government" healthcare after which they will have control of our lives. This government is evil.
We had to pass it to see what was in it
"Sparklefarts lied?"
Behold... SCC says the sooth on this hollow, callow,
Poot-Butt...
He and all the "smart-set" lick-hitters have really enjoyed
Inflicting misery on the people who make this nation go.
"More than half of the state exchanges have gone bankrupt and folded already, which everyone who could count knew was going to happen. But hey, when your policies are funded by fantasy dollars and unicorn farts, anything is possible - including doubling the national debt in less than four years."
This:
"Hope and Change."
"We're going to fundamentally transform America"
"If you like your doctor, you can keep him."
"We gotta pass it to see what's in it..."
That:
Jonathan Gruber... The baby-daddy of that eye-watering ugly
abomination named Obamacare, who derisively laughed down his dick at the "stupidity"
of the American people?
Or how about alleged Medical Ethicist, nasty-assed Eugenicist
(and in our opinion,) a crouching classist/hidden bigot Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel?
Everybody who isn't a member of
the Emanuel family is to be stripped naked and left in the woods for
the crows and scavengers upon attaining their 75th Birthday.
What the fuck did those guys talk about at the dinner table
when they were growing up?
And everybody goes on and on about what mean, hateful, brutal, racist,
gun-loving, funny idea having, blue collar conservative revanchists,
pissed because it isn't 1960 anymore, echo chamber dwelling
some-kind-of-phobes big city Policemen are alleged to be.
"Himself said:
"The Affordable Healthcare Act is not a tax..."
Well what the fuck else COULD
it be besides a tax/diversion of wealth from the
Great American Middle?
And those of us who listen, read and comprehend
with a combative mindset were roundly dismissed as
noisy, politically unsophisticated, fist-shaking rabble.
Considering how he was pushed up and out of Chicago
by Daley Inc. because they were scared shitless about some
Harvard Lawyer "colored guy" running for mayor, winning and
giving everything over to the Feds...
"Whaddaya MEAN we gotta stop stealin'?"
>Mind's-eye visual of emissaries from Daley Inc.
ringing the doorbell of the Sparklefarts household
sometime back in the early 2000's<
"Uhhh... Hello dere, young smart colored guy and
communerty organizuh! We hear youz gonna run fer mare?
Now... Let's t'ink t'ings over ok? We got sumthin' bettah fer ya!
Howz about we puts ya up fer Senate? All ya gotta do is vote
"Present"'on all dat legislation. Do dat an' we can do good t'ings
fer ya so fugeddabout dat mare stuff. Ok?"
>Fingers crossed behind their backs<
Craven, shit-assed local media has energetically avoided
probing the real how and why of Sparklefart's rocket-like
and wholly undeserved ascension to the Oval Office...
"But he speechifies so purty and he's not "angry"
like those other guys!"
Heh...
America creamed her collective panties only wake up
sad, sore and very sorry a few years later.
We give a shit between two shoes if a Martian were in the White House...
As long as the motherfucker was C O M P E T E N T,
well rounded, determined to put national interests first
and was keen on minding the national purse.
What?
Is that a fucking problem?
Bonus points if he causes democrat-run urban center Liberal
Progressive Alinskyites to have night-time terrors to the point
of running and crying in their sleep.
This P/C multi-culti, nanny statist, head-in-the-sand/ "kick me" sign on the ass, "we need to
apologize to the world for being American and therefor exceptional," surrender-monkey,
relentlessly pandering to perpetually aggrieved demographic so they don't get a hair across
their collective ass/light THEIR enclaves on fire/walk in circles waving signs and yelling into
bullhorns while obstructing traffic for slights real and imagined; has to stop.
RANT: on/(OFF)
Our stumbling mumbling Muslim president has destroyed this country. We will be attacked next from the immigrants hes going to let in this country. This country is doomed!!
First, I will say obamacare is a joke.
On the other hand, I have little sympathy for someone who lives in PALATINE complaining about their premiums. And she's 59 years old? So in other words, retired fairly young and has to buy insurance but can't afford it because her favorite socialist liberal president lied to her? Boo fucking hoo. Move out of your wealthy suburb. Get a job. Do what you need to do. No one feels bad for you
"With our health insurance plan, you can get a gym membership for only $25 per month. Buying it via them allows you to visit multiple gyms (LA Fitness, Snap Fitness, Blast and other smaller chains)" posted on another (possibly wrong) thread
Now that this works for fitness gyms, can you make this work for hospitals and doctors when I travel outside Chitcago on business? Works for Karen Lewis and her merry band of schoolteachers. Sparklefarts, indeed.
Our elected elite ruling class likes to pass legislation before reading it. Government chooses the winners and losers in healthcare. Its not about health care, but the law of the land sanctioned by the ruling political class to grant contracts to their friends and vanquish those who oppose them. Play nice and you will receive government sanctioned contracts and self promoting legislation. Cross the elected officials and entrenched bureaucrats will result in you being excluded from the Affordable Health Care Act law wealth opportunities. Make noise and you will soon see audits via the I.R.S., lots of regulations from enforcement agencies with punitive fines and possible targeted criminal investigations by the injustice department putting your firm out of business. It about wealth creation not about the health of a nation.
Thank God I am a Veteran and the VA is my health care provider. I was a career VA employee and the VA has always been my provider. the VA has it's short comings but it sure is better then Sparklefart Care.
(OT) Just to let coppers who are "sick of this job" "I'm quitting" "Im outta here." take it from a recently retired copper with all the "promises" that I believed, such as "looking forward to hiring you,when your retired!" Don't buy the lies! When your a copper you can do things for people (Not giving examples if you have no idea your not the police), when your retired your a has been, done! I believed the BS, all the people from the bosses who are now directors everywhere, to business people they all LIED! Over 6 months and nothing, not that i need to work but wanted a little extra income, the only offer I received was a car dealer in oaklawn (Who I would never work for or recommend), lied told me it would be $50,000 to start! Come to find out offered $10.00 per hour, same as a kid in high school! Bottom line if you get "promises" get them in writing and have it notarized because so many lie! Rethink this job before you do anything rash! Words to the wise!
You're blaming Obamacare for the fact that the INSURANCE companies are raising their rates? Maybe it's not a perfect program, but I haven't heard any great ideas from the bozos in the GOP clown car of wanna-be's...
This was designed to fail so that universal, single payer, government-run healthcare would become the next step, at least according to all the democrats who complained obamacare didn't go far enough... this is what they were promised when they threatened to vote against obamacare when they realised it was no where near what obama had promised.
Unicorn farts smell like Obama's house: Cognac and plaque, and big plastic bags of dirty laundry in every room in that Hyde Park Mansion, with a hint of Larry Sinclair and that limo ride.
Anonymous said...
Obama is an IDIOT! Worst President in modern times! Hey pres, put your useless Library in New York! You are an embarrassment to Chicago!
11/17/2015 04:38:00 AM
This f***er isn't from Chicago! He's from nowhere...
Insane mentally ill liberals will always insist their agenda isn't working because it didn't go far enough, wasn't funded enough, blabla. Just go play in a corner and let the grown ups handle the important stuff.
Oh, and this library that is coming here, this shrine to idiocy and lunacy, is just going to become another Harold Washington Library, a piss-bum smelling homeless shelter. Which is appropriate for this president's legacy.
What did you expect from The Great Divider?
Maybe now the assholes will realize that votes come with consequences.
God sent? More like the other guy sent it👺
The real goal has been always been a single payer system, like the UK or Canada and in order to get it you first have to destroy the current system. So, the ACA is working just as it was designed to work.
See what Rahm and congress have planner for you future retirees. Their families don't have to deal with Obama care they are special. Rahm already stuck it to current retirees and you can bet you will get even a better fucking chump. Just keep doing his work fool!
Blue Cross Blue Shield is the worst insurance available and it has nothing to do with Obamacare. I worked a temporary position there briefly and the supervisor sat at the back of the room and told people to bump me and hit me to see what my reaction would be, my reaction was to call my office and ask to be reassigned somewhere else. Later that year, Blue Cross Blue assholes had massive lay-offs.
I bet they voted democrat.... Here is my gun, go shoot yourself--- cause that's what u do if you vote democrat
"how can one person fuck up so many things in such short period of time?"
As any good socialist would say, he's gotten a lot of help from the community. Seriously, King Barry is just a symptom of the underlying problem.
**puts on my Mr Rogers fuck you t-shirt and waits for the apocalypse under Obama's regime**
Now we have to support these Syrians and they are protected by Law! What type of bullshit is this! They will get everything for free! While we work our a off! I hear so many sad stories from Vets that can't afford health care and are struggling ! Hard working Americans ! While others get a free ride! No one wants to hold anyone accountable! Why can't our leaders make Countries like Syria accountable for its people ! Impeach No Balls before he ruins us! A Pissed Off Nurse!
On the other hand, I have little sympathy for someone who lives in PALATINE complaining about their premiums. And she's 59 years old? So in other words, retired fairly young and has to buy insurance but can't afford it because her favorite socialist liberal president lied to her? Boo fucking hoo. Move out of your wealthy suburb. Get a job. Do what you need to do. No one feels bad for you
Palatine is a wealthy suburb? You must be a special kind of stupid.
Coppers don't vote they because they spend too many hours bitching on the blog and working VRI. Just goes to show that you can bust your ass and make all that money, but if the right people are not voted into office they will take that money faster than you can make it. Voting is real important, VRI not so much. Just think if you stayed off the computer on election day how much time you would have to vote and really have your voice heard while protecting some of your hard earned cash.
You're blaming Obamacare for the fact that the INSURANCE companies are raising their rates? Maybe it's not a perfect program, but I haven't heard any great ideas from the bozos in the GOP clown car of wanna-be's...
I guess you missed the private sector solutions that were proposed and rejected, comrade.
You're blaming Obamacare for the fact that the INSURANCE companies are raising their rates? Maybe it's not a perfect program, but I haven't heard any great ideas from the bozos in the GOP clown car of wanna-be's...
11/17/2015 03:00:00 PM
Seriously?!!! You goofs take an old car that still ran and drove it off the cliff. Now you hand us the wheel in mid flight and say "You do better".
The old health care system needed tweaking to be better (portability, pre-existing condition, etc,), not the complete ass backward Obamacare that was forced on us by the Democrats.
It's a mess you Progressive fool. We will fix it. You've had your chance and completely screwed up this Country.
It's going to go up even more to pay the premiums for the 200,000 undocumented muslims that are being brought here to destroy us.
$1200 a month? That's more than my mortgage. How does a retiree afford that?
You're blaming Obamacare for the fact that the INSURANCE companies are raising their rates? Maybe it's not a perfect program, but I haven't heard any great ideas from the bozos in the GOP clown car of wanna-be's...
Why do you think the insurance companies are raising rates?? Because Obamacare made them take people with pre-existing conditions...insure kids until 26yrs old....etc. Somebody has to pay for that, and it's not going to be the insurance companies. An analogy, lets say you had a brand new car with no insurance, you wreck it...$8000 worth of damage....then you can go buy insurance and they have to pay for it. Im sure the auto insurance companies would be raising rates too.
No on is blameless here. Insurance companies cherry picked who they would cover leaving a lot of people unable to get insurance. Their only alternative was to use the Emergency Room as their primary care physician and hospitals couldn't turn them away raising the cost of health care for everyone. We still paid, but it was better hidden. Now insurance companies can't deny someone with a pre existing condition so they are jacking up their rates. I think a single payer system would work a lot better than the mess that we have.
Anonymous said...
You're blaming Obamacare for the fact that the INSURANCE companies are raising their rates? Maybe it's not a perfect program, but I haven't heard any great ideas from the bozos in the GOP clown car of wanna-be's...
11/17/2015 03:00:00 PM
Seriously?!!! You goofs take an old car that still ran and drove it off the cliff. Now you hand us the wheel in mid flight and say "You do better".
The old health care system needed tweaking to be better (portability, pre-existing condition, etc,), not the complete ass backward Obamacare that was forced on us by the Democrats.
It's a mess you Progressive fool. We will fix it. You've had your chance and completely screwed up this Country.
11/18/2015 05:33:00 AM
Outstanding response 05:33. Couldn't agree more.
More about Blue Cross, the copy that I was given to enter information into the computer was so tiny it could not be read which meant a lot of errors were entered causing vendors, doctors and patients to not get paid the correct amount or coverage to be denied. This is why their rates increase, incompetency, not Obamacare.
Margaret Thatcher said it best: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money". You'd hope that Oblah-blah-blahma would have understood this by now, but then again, why should he care? It's not HIS money...
On the other hand, I have little sympathy for someone who lives in PALATINE complaining about their premiums. And she's 59 years old? So in other words, retired fairly young and has to buy insurance but can't afford it because her favorite socialist liberal president lied to her? Boo fucking hoo. Move out of your wealthy suburb. Get a job. Do what you need to do. No one feels bad for you
Palatine is a wealthy suburb? You must be a special kind of stupid.
Actually certain parts are dumbass, especially the parts close to Inverness. Go fuck your self now.
One of the other aspects about O-care that no progressive seems to fathom is that those with pre-existing conditions now are required to purchase health insurance (law of the land, ya know) but the insurance company can STILL deny them treatment or therapy. So rather than being able to set aside several hundred dollars monthly to pay cash for much-needed therapy and forego insurance premiums, those with chronic health issues are forced to purchase insurance - and still pay out of pocket for cutting edge treatment that isn't covered by their policy! Thanks, Obama. You really fixed things, didn't you? BTW, libs, I work in patient advocacy and see the charity cases every day. They used to be middle-class, until about 2010 or so.
I too have a cancelled policy from BCBS but I think I have found a policy with a non-profit at a somewhat higher rate.
The Affordable care Act is not a good law, but sadly it is the best that we have. Before the Act I was told by BCBS that
because of a pre-existing condition my policy would not cover my legs, which were requiring surgery. At least now I am covered.
One other point, the author states that the national Debt doubled over the last 4 years and that is not true at all. The Obama Presidency hasn't been what I hoped for but to be fair the annual deficit has dropped dramatically during his tenure and the debt increased at a much faster rate under George W. It is fair to complain about the national debt but let's argue using the true info.
To 09:33 PM - the national debt, currently at $18.6 trillion, is up 75% under O'Bama's presidency.
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