Wednesday, July 13, 2016

Tio Speaks

Sometimes we really wish ignorance was painful - it might actually educate the tiny minds:
  • The bond set for Ja'Mal Green, an activist who was arrested over the weekend, is too high and the charges against him are meant to "send a message," said community and family members during a news conference Tuesday morning at the Leighton Criminal Court Building.

    Bail was set at $350,000 for Green, who is charged with five felony counts: two of aggravated battery to a police officer, two of aggravated battery in a public place and one of attempting to disarm a police officer, according to a statement from Chicago police. Green was also charged with two misdemeanor counts of resisting/obstructing arrest.
Um, Ja'mal caught five felonies. $350K isn't out of line.
  • Eric Russell, a community activist who has represented a number of  families with relatives killed by police, said Green is a "political prisoner" and the target of a vendetta because of his advocacy work.
A political prisoner would be someone like Mandela or Gandhi. Green is a loud-mouthed attention-seeker who spit on a cop, punched another and tried to disarm a third.
  • Tio Hardiman, president of Violence Interrupters, said community advocates are petitioning for a reduced bond.

    "This young man is a standup individual in the community at a much-needed time in our history in the United States," Hardiman said. "The police cannot continue to get away with abusing our people."
So his bail should have been more in line with, say, Tio's for wife beating? And guess who didn't set the bail there Tio? The cops. Bail would be set by the Honorable Peggy Chiampas, and actually, she has to follow a set of rules put in place by the Chief Judge....a set of rules routinely ignored by too many judges.

But don't worry, Special Ed is holding a bake sale in the HQ lobby today. Weezie made cookies and brownies.

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74 Comments:

Blogger True News said...

Tribune is reporting he has been released from jail tonight.

7/13/2016 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BHO says race relations have improved in his lifetime, that ISO true but they certainly have taken a major downturn since his presidency. Th.at Mr. President is indisputable .

7/13/2016 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PayPal and Go Fund Me pages u to $25K. Un-named female cherged the full $35K on her credit card. Will Green show up for court...????? hahahahaha

7/13/2016 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Reader has a different video view of the altercation.
These fools think that because a police officer physically tried to pull a person off a barricade (that they should not have been on) that is was wrong.
Also, the video clearly shows JaMall coming off the barricade and pushing the commander and throwing punches.
The instigators don't see it that way.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2016/07/12/video-shows-chicago-police-commander-pulling-activist-off-a-barricade-during-taste-of-chicago-protest

Jedidiah Brown thinks this video is proof the JaMall's innocence.

I think it shows just the opposite.

Also, that is starer boy in the video wearing the blue "Security" hat.

7/13/2016 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Green wants a revolution. We should not disappoint him.

7/13/2016 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vote for Law and Order!

Stay inside your department vehicle and enjoy your bagged lunch!

less policing and policemen is creative counter assault on their movement!

Bunker down! Stay safe and tune into the Bloomberg Cable channel!



7/13/2016 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strange how a little chump loudmouth can be looked at as a " stand up guy" by people who have leeched of the taxpayers for a long time. GFY Tio you scumbag.

7/13/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the little Jag'mal made bail tonite. Supposedly some moron actually put the $35Gs on his credit card. But here's something interesting, Judge Chiampas ordered Jag'mal not to have anything to do with social media as part of his release. So what does he do as soon as he walks through the gates, he takes a selfie video with his sister which is promptly posted all over . . . social media! Truly a mentally deficient individual and family.

7/13/2016 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck Tio Hardiman

7/13/2016 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weezie thing is not getting old anytime soon. Keep running with it.

7/13/2016 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The video in this article of Devereaux yankin that punk ass off the fence is going to keep mobs marching.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2016/07/12/video-shows-chicago-police-commander-pulling-activist-off-a-barricade-during-taste-of-chicago-protest

BC

7/13/2016 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us not forget that Mr. Green might someday become president of this country. After all, our current president used to be a community activist in Chicago.

7/13/2016 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silly silly has Posted 10%

7/13/2016 02:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey "you're not me daddy or tio" not-so-Hardiman hush money has already been sent to you and your gang. Try and stay out of the lime light. Thanks, from your nine fingered brother from another mother rahmy..now give me a high 4.5 on the flip side!

7/13/2016 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tio is an asswipe

7/13/2016 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The punk is out "it's an uprise" woman puts the $35,000 on her credit card she bes his "mentor" the rich democratic lawless machine you can bet is involved and it says the Chicago reader photo shows the thug never hit a cop!

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/173399630-story

Stay fetal please let rahm and the alderman with the men of God take care of this!

7/13/2016 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send him to Pyongyang. Dear Leader will be happy to arrest his entire family, and send them all to the same Extermination Camp.

The North Koreans are political prisoners, not these wanna be social justice warriors.

7/13/2016 03:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Violence Interrupters? How much government money do they get every year?

How many have their own employees violently shot or killed?

7/13/2016 04:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop callin my baby's mama Weezie!

7/13/2016 04:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But don't worry, Special Ed is holding a bake sale in the HQ lobby today. Weezie made cookies and brownies.
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You guys should be stand-up comedians. Worth snorting coffee up my nose this morning.

7/13/2016 04:41:00 AM  
Blogger Big Daddy said...

Hardiman is nothing but a whore. Pay him a million dollars and he is a friend of the City. Don't pay him and he marches against the Police. I have more respect for the five dollar crack whore than I do for him.

7/13/2016 05:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mandela was a terrorist. Look up what he started out doing for the ANC.

7/13/2016 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tio's wife apparently could have used a "violence interrupter"

7/13/2016 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tio Hardiman, president of Violence Interrupters




Someone FOIA the cooked books there! You know it is a 503(c).

7/13/2016 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahaha....I just spit out my coffee with the last line about Weezie....

7/13/2016 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is the media glossing over the fact that Ja'Mal also praised the shooter who murdered 5 police officers in Dallas on his Facebook page? The only media that has accurately reported it is WGN. Both the Tribune and the Sun Times have completely ignored it. It certainly seems like the media doesn't want people to know just how much of a POS this little thug is.

7/13/2016 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Wouldn't it be sweet if he gets his bail revoked and that icky girl is stuck with the credit card charge?

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

7/13/2016 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares
Charges will be reduced if not dropped way before any trial. The city does not want the publicity of a shit show for this "political prisoner"

7/13/2016 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Tio have you stopped beating women yet?

7/13/2016 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should be able to collect that money in 1 hour from the protesters or Fodder Phleger, he has 200K from George Lucas. Is it because they don't have jobs or just not committed enough.

7/13/2016 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't give a crap what TKO has to say. All his fights have been against women!!!!

7/13/2016 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Sarcasm said...

Was it a Stolen Credit Card hahaha

7/13/2016 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Facebook comment on ABC7 Chicago acc uses him of beating his 2 baby mommas with an outstanding Indiana warrant.

7/13/2016 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He must be running out of women to beat up.

7/13/2016 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, i heard this asshole was released on bond this morning. My question is, how can i as a citizen insure the crooked states attorneys don't throw this case and let this asshole walk?

7/13/2016 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The beginning of the end. These people are insane!

7/13/2016 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is the person who gave this idiot $35,000 Was that Hillary?

7/13/2016 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next thing you know they will name a street after him.

7/13/2016 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to know who put up the 35 G! cold it have been Preckwinkle?

7/13/2016 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WeeZee made brownies, Hmmmm....
Anyway, Tio gets the media attention, obamo gets an open mic to tout gun control and race bait at a fallen police memorial,
but nobody is talking about the violent black youth as a problem.
What a screwed up society liberals have created in less than eight years with really belief HilLIARy is going to make things better.

7/13/2016 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3 separate shootings in 20 min last nite in 007 bout 2230 hrs. 5 shot total. 2 DOA, 2 critical, 1 serious, but hey, don't look over here!

7/13/2016 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This punk is free and after watching memorial to the great heroes from Dallas and Obama giving his speech way off track emboldened black lives crew more! It's getting warmer the wick is lite with no sensible leadership in Washington all of the way down stay fetal protect each other, other day was driving down 52nd street west end of 008 brought a smile seen a American police flag man and woman lowered to half staff drove back couple hours later big blue ribbons on all trees and blue light on. Don't know them but police supporters like this is what we need nothing less and when you know neighborhood supports our work it makes me proud to serve these respectful people! Asking God to bless police everywhere #bluelivesmatter!

7/13/2016 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slightly off topic but not too far off. .... Our superintendent is like the Neville Chamberlain of Rahm's administration. Edville's policy is to appease the protesters -- strip police officers even though they are in compliance with department policy. Edville appeases the protesters by supposedly talking them down before they start a protest: Protesters post on social media that they just got off the phone with Edville, revealing inside information before it is published. Edville has intimated his concern is to avoid the protests from getting out of hand, so let's appease the protesters.

However, this time, the 20-year-old snot nosed punk protester punched Commander Devereaux, who makes whale shit seem like butterfly droppings, a boss who is superintendent material only for his skin color, a boss who worked in units and actually was the police, a boss who is commander of 018 a district filled with some of the richest and most politically connected people in the city. And all the officers dealing with that 20-year old punk were probably wearing body cameras, capturing the whole incident on video. The ASA literally had no choice but to approve felony charges, unlike the last protester on whom the felony charges were dropped the day after being approved due to political pressure.

Yes, Edville, with your appeasement policy you are evidently bringing peace to our time here in Chicago.

7/13/2016 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's where the FOP can earn some of their respect back , simply stating that for whatever reason that this case is dismissed, or it mysteriously disappears there will be severe reprocussions to be paid .

You can't embolden assholes like this because they will than push the envelope further and further every time , next time they'll hit you with a bat and next time take a coppers eye out and so on .

Make this the line in sand and show them this simply will not be tolerated anymore , and then if these assholes don't get the message respond with brute force , which is apparently the only thing this asshole city understands .

Jesus , for Christ's sake how much more shit are we going to take , show some balls Dean , in the long run it will help us more and then , just then they will treat us with some respect if not a level of fear .

Like Sonny said in the movie Bronx Tales " I'd rather be feared them loved , fear last a long time" .

7/13/2016 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that black lives matter has set into motion transformational change of law enforcement, it is time to Move On to other social issues.


• Unemployment-Federal funding must be appropriated to assist C.P.S. high school graduates to read and complete job application for those millions of high tech green jobs from companies such as Solyndra making those solar panels a reality

• Education- A coalition must be formed with the C.T.U. funded publication ChicagoUnionTeacher brainwashing students to challenge authority by contributing through consultation to the propaganda publication entitled “Empowering Students in Police Interactions” and “Teaching Laquan Mcdonald in Context” as social justice primers. An additional demand to have high school graduates to function at a seventh grade level will raise the bar and allow CPS graduates to land those 21st century jobs

• Parental responsibilities- Baby daddies will be called on a daily basis, much like a called to noon prayer in the mosques in the radical middle east, to take responsibility and provide for their offspring

• Economic development-The Obama library must be located in the higher education campus at Kennedy-King Universities in Englewood. The library if located in the European modeled U of C is a slap in the face to those who vote solid democratic each and every election. Getting that vote out who make a non-productive less than responsible lifestyle possible. A public/private partnership could anchor economic development. Partnerships would include Whole Foods, I.D.O.C. parole offices, S.W.A.P. and probation offices, Social Security SSI offices, H.U.D. (SEC 8) administrative facilities, L.I.N.C. facilities and publicly funded food pantries would provide for one stop shopping for nutrition, entertainment, criminal justice involved obligations and essential entitlements

7/13/2016 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This needs to be read by EVERYONE.....ESPECIALLY our Superintendent. This copper talks nothing but FACT which is TOTALLY lost/ignored by our command staff.

https://www.facebook.com/jay.stalien/posts/911372818974402

7/13/2016 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it Fast Eddie's friend that posted the bond for him. Maybe fast Eddie made some phone calls to get him out...

7/13/2016 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A previous posting on SCC alerted everyone to the hatred expressed by NFL ballplayer Isaiah Crowell with his social posting of a jihadist in the process of murdering a uniformed police officer. Political agendas have permeated professional sports just like the five St. Louis Rams players who entered onto the ball field with their hands up. Role models for children-I don’t think so. Making millions of dollars a year and they still hate everything their country stands for.


If you haven’t seen the portrayal of an ISIL radical jihadist clad in black in the process of being beheading the law enforcement professional, check out the link. Symbolism on display which lets you into his hatred for his country and his gratitude for the peacekeepers both in police occupations and military service. Maybe he should renounce his citizenship and play ball for seven figures a year in a place like Syria.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/nfl-star-posts-graphic-image-of-slitting-cops-throat/

7/13/2016 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm only hires the dirty, then he's got something on his little whores. By the way, Jamal released today

7/13/2016 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, a cop who shot a felon high on PCP who approached him with a knife in his hand is spending how much money on bail?

7/13/2016 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On his "second page" there is a post of Judge Peggy complete with picture of her. While no outright threat ,this has to violate something. Can this be escalated somehow to make her and the courts aware of this?

7/13/2016 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Curious how this plays out with the victim. Devereauk. Good guy, good police , but also a climber. My guess it's 9 to 1 he's told to let it go and does.

7/13/2016 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey president Obama over here another false police narrative dispelled:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/us/police-shootings-investigations/index.html

7/13/2016 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the residents of the south and west Side really wanted a boycott, they should boycott calling the police for 24 hours..Maybe they need an honest discussion on how the community who has the most issues with the police.calls the police for every little thing such as my child is "disrespectful".

7/13/2016 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JA'MAL wouldn't last one day in county. He would get eaten alive by real brothers. He is soft. It will be interesting to see if he continues his political agitation after his brief confinement.

7/13/2016 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) does the police bias propaganda ever stop with clinton read the article keeping up with her agenda lighting the wick:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-hillary-clinton-springfield-speech-met-0714-20160713-story.html

This criminal will steal the election she gets in play taps for policing everywhere!

7/13/2016 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should only be a cash bond! Fuck these animals!

7/13/2016 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Special Ed had a kid he'd be Ja'Mal Green.

7/13/2016 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


So the little Jag'mal made bail tonite. Supposedly some moron actually put the $35Gs on his credit card. But here's something interesting, Judge Chiampas ordered Jag'mal not to have anything to do with social media as part of his release. So what does he do as soon as he walks through the gates, he takes a selfie video with his sister which is promptly posted all over . . . social media! Truly a mentally deficient individual and family.

7/13/2016 12:51:00 AM

Email a copy of it to the judge.
I'm sure she won't be amused.

7/13/2016 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Tio Hardiman, president of Violence Interrupters..."

What, did he get bounced from Dr. Gary Slutkin's "Cease Fire" and now just imitated the model for himself?

He sure must have learned to write applications for "community development grants" while there. I never saw any other results except nice suits and fine, heavy sedans.

7/13/2016 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Mandela was a terrorist. Look up what he started out doing for the ANC."

7/13/2016 06:11:00 AM

...and wife Winnie was worse. Had an unladylike idea of what "necklaces" were.

Also look up Joe Slovo and Helen Suzman, ANC founders.

7/13/2016 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Also, that is starer boy in the video wearing the blue "Security" hat."

7/13/2016 12:21:00 AM

You mean Lemon Record? Ha. "Hates the police," but the first one to seek out trappings of authority.

Overgrown juveniles.

7/13/2016 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tio helped bond Jamal out because his wife is tougher than he is, and Tio needs someone that can throw a good punch.

7/13/2016 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT sort of but always relevant this day in age... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/11/no-racial-bias-police-shootings-study-harvard-prof/

http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399.pdf

I didn't need an academic to tell me that.

7/13/2016 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Black Lives Matter movement - has four basic objectives with respect to diminishing law enforcement. They want to disenfranchise the law enforcement from the community. They want to defund law enforcement. They want to diminish their involvement in the community and their stature, and they want to basically dissolve law enforcement.

And the reason is because police officers are protectors of the rule of the law, and the Black Lives Matter movement is a black nationalist revolutionary Marxist movement that is tied into a much larger international movement referred to as One World One Struggle.

7/13/2016 06:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tio hardiman= wife beater/domestic battery offender.
A real tuff guy.
Try and slap around a man and you will be on the ground looking at your teeth on the street.

Just a punk ass form the ghetto west suburbs.

7/13/2016 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tio used to work among us for the civilian side of the CAPS program. Its true.Pretty sick eh?

7/13/2016 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: And now this clown wants to abolish the police. Yeah, like things aren't already out of control.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/12/chicago-blm-activist-we-need-abolish-police

7/13/2016 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Mandela was a terrorist. Look up what he started out doing for the ANC."

7/13/2016 06:11:00 AM

...and wife Winnie was worse. Had an unladylike idea of what "necklaces" were.

Also look up Joe Slovo and Helen Suzman, ANC founders.

7/13/2016 03:55:00 PM

Easy to say, but not so easy to do. The internet has been fairly well sanitized of the truth about Nelson Mandela. It isn't politically correct to talk about him as being a terrorist, but that's what he was first jailed for, not civil disobedience (which sounds so much more endearing)
.

7/14/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This young man is a standup individual in the community at a much-needed time in our history in the United States," Hardiman said. "The police cannot continue to get away with abusing our people."
See Tio this is the problem. Although viewed by your community as a stand up individual he is viewed by the rest of the world as a criminal who broke the law. Your people do not believe in the laws of our land that were created to compel it's people to behave in a civilized manner and recognize the authority that the people have entrusted to the police. When you're people are charged with violating the law it's called racism. The kkk and arian nation are racist. The black peace stone nation and black panthers are racist. The police are labeled racist only because they arrest your people at a much higher rate when reality they are merely responding to their total disregard for the laws of the land your people exhibit. If you want your people to be treated like the white man tell them they need to act like the white man. A good first step in achieving this would be to obey the laws of the land and forget about the law of the jungle. Every single police shooting of your people in the past year could have been avoided if the subjects merely recognized the police as an authority and obeyed their orders. This fact is overlooked to carry on your excuse for the inability of your people to conform with the laws of the land and continue with your racist police bullshit narrative.

7/14/2016 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Mandela was a terrorist. Look up what he started out doing for the ANC.

7/13/2016 06:11:00 AM

YOU ARE WAY OFF BASE . . .

Mandela was not a "terrorist". He was only called that by his enemies, who ran a segregationist government called Apartheid, which was nowhere near being a democracy. If the word "terrorist" existed in 1776, George Washington, Ben Franklin, the Adams', Jeffersons, Madison, Hamilton, Hancock, and all the signers of the Declaration of Independence would all have been called terrorists by the British back then, as our Founders were bucking the "legitimate government" of the time.

In the USA, we have a black president, a black US Attorney General (the 2nd one), a black US Supreme Court Justice, we've had/have black US Representatives and Senators, black Chiefs of Police, black mayors, black business executives, black CEOs, black teachers, black firemen, black policemen, black doctors, black nurses, .... blacks have opportunities in this country..... today's USA is nothing like Apartheid. Leave Mandela out of this.

7/14/2016 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The credit card is associated with the "Faith Community of St. Sabina". Aint that great!!

7/14/2016 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Previously posted :
"Your people do not believe in the laws of our land that were created to compel it's people to behave in a civilized manner and recognize the authority that the people have entrusted to the police. When you're people are charged with violating the law it's called racism. The kkk and arian nation are racist. The black peace stone nation and black panthers are racist. The police are labeled racist only because they arrest your people at a much higher rate when reality they are merely responding to their total disregard for the laws of the land your people exhibit. If you want your people to be treated like the white man tell them they need to act like the white man. A good first step in achieving this would be to obey the laws of the land and forget about the law of the jungle. Every single police shooting of your people in the past year could have been avoided if the subjects merely recognized the police as an authority and obeyed their orders. This fact is overlooked to carry on your excuse for the inability of your people to conform with the laws of the land and continue with your racist police bullshit narrative."

Bravo!
You nailed it!!

7/14/2016 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Mandela was a terrorist. Look up what he started out doing for the ANC.

7/13/2016 06:11:00 AM

YOU ARE WAY OFF BASE . . .

Mandela was not a "terrorist". He was only called that by his enemies, who ran a segregationist government called Apartheid, which was nowhere near being a democracy. If the word "terrorist" existed in 1776, George Washington, Ben Franklin, the Adams', Jeffersons, Madison, Hamilton, Hancock, and all the signers of the Declaration of Independence would all have been called terrorists by the British back then, as our Founders were bucking the "legitimate government" of the time.

In the USA, we have a black president, a black US Attorney General (the 2nd one), a black US Supreme Court Justice, we've had/have black US Representatives and Senators, black Chiefs of Police, black mayors, black business executives, black CEOs, black teachers, black firemen, black policemen, black doctors, black nurses, .... blacks have opportunities in this country..... today's USA is nothing like Apartheid. Leave Mandela out of this.

7/14/2016 12:52:00 PM

Second poster, I don't blame you for NOT KNOWING Mandela's history, but that first poster is NOT way off base.
Back when the news could be trusted, before the internet corrupted it, the truth about Mandela was more available. I'm not saying he didn't evolve, but you apparently know HALF the truth about him.

7/15/2016 10:09:00 AM  

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