Zorn Says "Stay Fetal"
In a career made up of dumb ideas, this one has to be one of his dumbest:
- Dear local and state government officials:
Direct your police officers to stop pulling motorists over for minor violations
Whoa. Seriously?
- A traffic stop for an allegedly broken taillight was the precipitating event for the incident in which Philando Castile, a 32-year-old African-American man, was shot and killed by police Wednesday in the suburbs of St. Paul, Minn. That shooting was one of the precipitating events for protests in Dallas, Chicago and many other cities Thursday.
Actually, that story is falling apart as we speak. Both his tail lights were working, and the radio tapes already leaked show that the officer was pulling Castile over because he matched the description of a wanted offender from a few days ago.
- [...] Traffic stops are fraught. They put officers in danger, make drivers resentful and can have racial overtones due to a history of incidents and disproportionate use against minorities. Reserve them for serious violations. Use cameras and other technology to transmit safety warnings, enforce sticker and plate requirements and strike fear into the hearts of those who change lanes without signaling.
If you want to build goodwill between your police and your community, that would be a good place to start.
Back in 1977, a madman who claimed he was taking orders from a demonic spirit in a dog, killed 6 people and wounded 7 others in a series of attacks that lasted a year. The Son of Sam was captured because of....a parking ticket.
In 1997, a serial killer ran loose for three months killing at will. Among his victims was real estate developer Lee Miglin and designer Gianni Versace. Andrew Cunanan was identified via a Chicago parking ticket and added to the FBI Most Wanted List.
Does anyone remember how Timothy McVeigh was apprehended after the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people including 19 children? It was a license plate violation.
And since this seems important to Zorn, those were all white guys.
So-called "minor violations" can become a big deal rather quickly. So if Zorn would care to outline a list of laws that certain "communities" aren't required to obey, we'd love to read it and publish it. Because people who don't renew their plates, don't buy city stickers, don't obey traffic laws, don't cost taxpayers anything, right? And people who don't carry insurance, who don't maintain their 3,000 pound car, who don't have a valid license because they never passed a road test, well, they didn't mean any harm when they cut in and out of traffic, ran those red lights and plowed into grandma crossing the street.
And if they actually got convicted, Zorn could have his buddies at the "Innocence Project" make up some bullshit to spring them like they did other murderers.
In 1997, a serial killer ran loose for three months killing at will. Among his victims was real estate developer Lee Miglin and designer Gianni Versace. Andrew Cunanan was identified via a Chicago parking ticket and added to the FBI Most Wanted List.
Does anyone remember how Timothy McVeigh was apprehended after the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people including 19 children? It was a license plate violation.
And since this seems important to Zorn, those were all white guys.
So-called "minor violations" can become a big deal rather quickly. So if Zorn would care to outline a list of laws that certain "communities" aren't required to obey, we'd love to read it and publish it. Because people who don't renew their plates, don't buy city stickers, don't obey traffic laws, don't cost taxpayers anything, right? And people who don't carry insurance, who don't maintain their 3,000 pound car, who don't have a valid license because they never passed a road test, well, they didn't mean any harm when they cut in and out of traffic, ran those red lights and plowed into grandma crossing the street.
And if they actually got convicted, Zorn could have his buddies at the "Innocence Project" make up some bullshit to spring them like they did other murderers.
Labels: media, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
64 Comments:
Zorn's a perfect example on why nobody buys newspapers anymore. Zorn was an idiot when I actually read the read the news. Nothing much changed. He's still an idiot.
Keep running your suckhole peanut.
Eric is a waste of oxygen. We used to make fun of him in High School. We have no idea how he can represent the south side. He did media day at the academy some years ago and failed miserably. Then the whiny Bit*ch wrote a column about how hard it is to be a reporter. Such loser. I have no idea how he can look at himself in the mirror in the morning.
I don't know who's dumber. The captain of 12, the commander of 12 or this jackass that wrote this article
Let's go to the European Model of Nationalized Police getting their marching orders from politicians, and not the law, so that we can create our own 'no-go' zones for police. There, problem solved!
Eric Zorn, another brain dead journalist of the left. By the way Eric that suspects story of having a permit to carry concealed is falling apart too. As is the case of the offender on the ground who could not carry a gun also and was going to jail for it. If he put his hand on that gun in his pocket and you can't say he didn't, I would have shot him too. He could pull that out in less than a second and kill me or my partner and he had motive , like not wanting to go to the penitentiary for having that gun. But you wouldn't know a think about that would you Eric.
zorn is possibly the biggest loose assed clown in chicago media.boy can he piss and squeal.
We have figured this all out. Here is the way this BS stops.
Any Facebook or You Tube video recording the actions of a police officer in the performance of his duty becomes part
of the investigation and therefore must not be displayed until release by the court.
Release of inflammatory videos are equal to yelling FIRE in a theater.
And all police officers must be considered racially neutral. Like bathrooms.
To be considered bias as an officer there must be a formal investigation with sworn affidavit
against the accused officer. Just because you are stopped by the police does not make it a racial
incident. It must be proved.
The media must stop stating police shot and killed an offender. Better is police were involved in a police
shooting And the alleged offender was terminated.
See how we spin the BS
Bravo SCC simply put Bravo....G.F.Y.. ZORN
He does have half a point. In Ferguson, the tickets and fines provided one quarter of the entire Ferguson City Budget.
Want to bet that the police were being prodded, pushed, and forced to keep the fines rolling in?
That individual police officers were punished if they did not produce enough "revenue?"
That the citizens of Ferguson and anyone that drove through the town were sick of being considered nothing more than sheep to be sheared, rolling piggy banks, and criminals created by fines they could not afford?
You hate the red light cameras, so do we. Please remember, many stupidly blame the cameras and fines on the police, not on Rahm and the Alderthieves. We have the same opponents.
Sure, as a famous mayor once ordered...
Just give them some room..How did that work out ??
Today there will be at least one, maybe two extra movers in the bin to honor zorn.
I haven't been doing traffic enforcement lately, but today I will.
Back in the day this the first rule for being a "good citizen" and flying under the radar as a teen . Make sure you obeyed the simple rules , check your lights and drive like a sane person.
Amazing how that carried over later in life.
So hey lets give all the "folks" destined to act up their first lesson in how the rules don't apply to them and stop making traffic stops , cause you know it's like not right yo
Eric Zorn fights to be relevant. He is not. The highlight of his career was the inane back and forth with Mary Schmidt. So droll no one cared. do they still do it?
Years ago, before the child sex scandal broke, The Reader had a regular column about Green. The tag line was "we read him so you don't have to" or something similar. Zorn isn't even important enough for that.
Say a criminal, and yes eric there are actual criminals out there, want to shoot someone. And Zorn rules apply. Criminals have a way of adapting. If we can't stop cars for one plate, wouldn't bad guy just remove front plate and drive around free wreaking havoc?
Let's just keep lowering the standards of law abiding behavior, shall we?
Does anyone else see this?
The gang thugs are also empowered to commit drive by shootings because without traffic stops they have no fear about carrying illegal guns in their vehicles. Great logic (not) Zorn! May we call you "Zero" from now on?
"I mean, really.
Traffic stops are fraught. They put officers in danger, make drivers resentful and can have racial overtones due to a history of incidents and disproportionate use against minorities. Reserve them for serious violations. Use cameras and other technology to transmit safety warnings, enforce sticker and plate requirements and strike fear into the hearts of those who change lanes without signaling." Eric Zorn: Chicago Tribune
Let's see that again.
"Traffic stops are fraught. " Eric Zorn Tribune Columnist and Arch-Cop Hater.
Okay. Fraught with. . .? Fraught with? Lollipops? Tigers? Toothpaste? Danger, mayhaps? Oh, let's change the subject.
What a dweeb.
Zorn is a total goof. For years, I have avoided reading his crappy columns and amazed that he still has a column.
Eric is a democrat patsy. Civics lesson Eric: When your favorite politicians enact stupid ordinances, the police are obliged to enforce them. Not only tail lights, no city stickers, no license plate renewal stickers, selling loose cigarettes, head lights on when it is dark but even dog tags. You see Eric it is called law enforcement and the issue is the equal and uniform enforcement of the law to all people.
The problem is when a segement of society is not law abiding, has no respect for the law and has been entitled to behave anyway it wants collides with the law abiding society. You are such a fool but you demonstrate exactly what liberalism is; it is a mental disease and you are a stage 4 ism.
When I was a dumb kid, I was pulled over for expired plates. The officer was a different race than me. I didn't go bonkers. I didn't get shot.
What next Eric baby/
No stops/charges for media DUI's?
Never mind.
Zorn won't put his life where his mouth is and move to Englewood or Austin. Until he does, everything he writes should be ignored.
Who reads the Rags in this town? Zorn, Brown, Steinberg, etc. pencil neck suburban raised geeks. ♠️
Zorn has been, and continues to be, a complete asshole for fis entire career. Don't read and don't click on his stories.
Clueless liberal. He should see what we see.
Nope. Supreme Court says cops can use bullshit traffic violations as a pretext to stop and investigate further. Sorry Zorn...ill take SCOTUS over you any day.
Kinda like Hillary Clinton. She doesn't have to obey laws
Zorn stopped being relevant years agp.
Zorn doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
That's the problem with all these pontificators and civilian police reform advocates..... they don't know shit about police work but they think that they do.
If they don't have to follow the rules, I'm not either. Double standard B's
don't know who's dumber. The captain of 12, the commander of 12 or this jackass that wrote this article
Don't forget the idiot TAC lt that follows bubble head around like a lost puppy dog.
I noticed the Wall Street Journal printed the crap about Castile having a CC permit as gospel, although so far I've seen no official confirmation of it.
I'm expecting to find out that the investigation will show A) he had no permit B) the gun was an illegal buy. Of course, by then there'll be dozens of stories around with the girlfriend's crap story treated as gospel
I'm beginning to think all these 20-something reporters just talk to each other on these stories, not anybody actually, you know, in the position to know any facts.
Haven't you learned your lesson Zorn? Without any investigation you pen an article based on lies.
Just like the Porter case, whatever you write lacks the truth.
In order to harvest their votes and use them to create chaos in the streets, the left has created a truly privileged political class that's 100% subsidized and 100% represented in Washington. Free due process rights and extreme leniency weren't enough. The next phase is total immunity from criminal law. Taxes, regulations, and criminal law only apply to the unrepresented. That's anyone not plugged into the vast welfare state which we toil to sustain. Our forefathers revolted for less.
these liberals have no answers ... never have
Maybe Zorn should stop writing how White people are irresponsible.
Stop doing traffic stops altogether, for a while at least, this may prove wise on our part.
But to ignore traffic violations (profile) from a certain group of folks would only throw more gasoline on the fire.
Zorn and others in the liberal media don't give any thought that the people or folks carrying handguns do it for a reason.
It's either protection or murder.
The folks don't want to go to jail or want protection from villians they've associated with in some form of gang or drug activity.
Fearing the white man or police is utter bullshit.
Fear of jail or punishment from any source is more true.
Things are too risky now. Folks don't go to court, don't have d/l's, drive their girlfriends rental car while smoking weed and Facebooking and mostl likely have warrants.
So they don't want to go to silly lenient Dart Jail for any reason.
They speed off drive crazy and wind up causing death and destruction and You - the Traffic Cop are responsible for a the chase.
Don't do traffic. Not until moral improves. Not until folks good or bad get the message that the police are needed to maintain some order.
One of America's worst Serial Killers, Ted Bundy, was busted due to a Traffic Violations.
First arrest:
----> Bundy was arrested in August 1975 by a Utah Highway Patrol officer in Granger, another Salt Lake City suburb, after he failed to pull over for a routine traffic stop. The officer, noting that the Volkswagen's front passenger seat was missing, searched his car; he found a ski mask, a second mask fashioned from pantyhose, a crowbar, handcuffs, trash bags, a coil of rope, an ice pick, and other items initially assumed to be burglary tools. <----
Bundy escaped after this trial but was eventually busted again thanks to: ANOTHER Traffic Violation.
Second & Final Arrest:
-----> Bundy stole a car and fled Tallahassee, driving westward across the Florida Panhandle. Three days later at around 1:00 a.m., he was stopped by Pensacola police officer David Lee near the Alabama state line after a "wants and warrants" check showed his Volkswagen Beetle as stolen. When told he was under arrest, Bundy kicked Lee's legs out from under him and took off running. Lee fired a warning shot and then a second round, gave chase, and tackled him. <-----
Soooo...'mr' Zorn, if police ignored 'petty' Traffic Violations the odds are Ted Bundy would never have been caught and countless other females would BE LONG DEAD.
There is no doubt, Eric Zorn IS a Special Kind Of Stupid.
You don't have a point, Zorn. However, in the spirit of staying fetal, everyone continues to get a pass as I continue to not give a fuck
FYI there are several chicago police dispatchers and civilian calltaker spewing hatred and anti police rhetoric. Bosses not doing anything to stop them from talking this hatred.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't know who's dumber. The captain of 12, the commander of 12 or this jackass that wrote this article
7/12/2016 12:32:00 AM
Agree on the Commander Bobblehead, but not the Captain.
Conspiracy Clinton? Read the comments:
http://heatst.com/politics/dnc-staffer-seth-rich-shot-dead-conspiracy-theories/
Remember this one from 2011:
Granat Jr. originally told police that he had fallen asleep in the basement of the home around 12:30 a.m. Sunday, and was home the entire night. He claimed he woke up to find the house ransacked, and when he went to wake up his parents for church, they were dead.
Maria Granat was stabbed repeatedly while in bed, while John Granat Sr. was beaten to death and was found lying on the floor at the side of the bed, according to the sheriff’s office.
But police say the younger Granat’s initial story was proven to be untrue. It turned out that he had been pulled over by Palos Heights police for a minor traffic offense at 122nd Street and Harlem Avenue at 5:17 a.m. that morning, sheriff’s police said.
Eric Zorn loves to look down on his lessors and tell them how to live their lives as he has the perfect solution and answers to all things that are wrong in this world, I don't even read his trash column these days.He is a strong supporter of Madigan, is anti police and very pro BLM and all things progressive
2:58am
I don't know what the situation is in Ferguson, but it's different here.
The vast majority of those stopped for minor violations are let go, he'll most of them stopped for major violations are let go.
The ones that aren't let go are as follows, have warrant, gun, dope, attitude, suspended or revoked dl, no insurance, expired plate or sticker
If you fall into those categories then too bad. If you think that it's ok then I hope they plow into you.
90pct of fines in court are bullshit, let go etc etc
Nobody likes cameras because it takes away discretion. All the camera sees is the violation. It doesn't show if the guy was driving like a jag before or if he just mistimed the light
Get a clue
Anonymous Anonymous said...
He does have half a point. In Ferguson, the tickets and fines provided one quarter of the entire Ferguson City Budget.
Want to bet that the police were being prodded, pushed, and forced to keep the fines rolling in?
That individual police officers were punished if they did not produce enough "revenue?"
That the citizens of Ferguson and anyone that drove through the town were sick of being considered nothing more than sheep to be sheared, rolling piggy banks, and criminals created by fines they could not afford?
You hate the red light cameras, so do we. Please remember, many stupidly blame the cameras and fines on the police, not on Rahm and the Alderthieves. We have the same opponents.
7/12/2016 02:58:00 AM
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FYI, anyone driving through focus is welcome to have a car that is. In 30 years of driving guess how many times I have been stopped for a taillight being out, registration light out, a headlight out, or an expired plate? That's right zero. Stop rolling down the road like a broke ass loser.
Eric Zorn is probably one of the BIGGEST PHUQTARDS out there....PERIOD.......
Yet another reason to get your news from Fox
Watched Obamas speech at Dallas memorial I say "Go pound sand you useless prick"
Eric Zorn and Mary Shmich, two of the most clueless assbots to ever waste ink in a Chicago "newspaper".
...not to mention the scrap trucks with a missing front bumper, one headlight hanging from the wires like an eye-stalk, homemade cardboard license plates, no sticker, a wadded-up piece of paper for a gas cap, bald tires, and a huge load that is striking sparks on the pavement every little bump it goes over, material being secured by one piece of dirty frayed rope across the back holding an entire old riveted iron boiler in there on top of a whole bunch of other shifting-around crap.
Saw one of these once up in 024, just west of Clark, piled SO HIGH that the rear bumper was on the ground, front wheels in the air, and there was no way it could ever have gotten under the -- 11' 9"? -- C&NW RR viaduct. I almost ran to buy a cheap camera just to get this, but no time.
They were probably busy rounding up ten guys to sit on the hood so they could take a run at it anyway.
I know, I know -- "Sanctuary City."
"STAY BACK 200 FEET."
The dead offender had 52 traffic violations! My whole family,extended,deceased and currently living don't have 52 total! This guy said "Fuck those laws"!
Look's like we won't make 400 by the 15th of july, mayb u gang banger's can try
a little harder and reach that goal by the 30th of july.Thank u 4 trying!
And the guy who killed all those people last year in the church while at bible study was also caught when he was pulled over during a traffic stop.
What a dumbass. What's the problem Zorn, not enough crime in town? Your solution is to lower standards? That's the problem Zorn! Standards have already been lowered to the point that cow Loretta Lynch can graduate from Harvard, but she's incapable of forming her own opinion.
Stand with the police, cause when they're gone, so is 911.
J.J.
This guy probably believes in "gun violence". Doesn't understand it's criminal violence and guns are just tools.
Try this phrase Zorn "Black Criminal Violence ". Study that concept.
J.J.
Zorn should go play in traffic instead of just writing about it.
I've been writing more movers than ever. Fuck you Zorn. Any car you stop on the west side is a tvb. All justice and your fucking car impounded.
Society is not bringing minority behavior up to higher standards. We are lowering the rest of society down to their standards. The media has made them professional victims.
And wasn't Al Capone brought down by tax evasion, not murder?
I hope Zorn excuses his next door neighbors when they disobey 'little' laws like garbage in the yard, noise at all hours, etc.
I only read him once in awhile, when my blood pressure needs the carbon blown out (my dad's reason for hitting the gas on the Skyway doing to the Dunes in the 60's).
From careful study of the police blotter in our little towne,
I offer this helpful perp roadtrip checklist:
Load car with dope. Check.
Locked and loaded unregistered firearms. Check
Plates expired. Check.
No license/expired license. Check.
Drive so as to draw police/state trooper attention. Check.
Fill car with smoke from blazing Chronic. Check.
Make sure Officer Pup gets a snootful of said smoke. Check.
Win!
7/12@1:36am There is one "journalist" who is a bigger asshat - Carol Marin, who predicted Ferguson style riots after the Laquan video was released. Despite her ranting the riots did not materialize.
She takes top ranking since about 30 years ago she was a decent reporter who actually reported on the evil "el rukns" gang. She saw thru their ruse of being a Muslim sect in order to circumvent prison rules. However, for some reason she changed her tune and became a panderer for Ch. 5 & Ch. 11. She has a bigger audience and can do more damage than Zorn.
Also - let's not forget self-promoting/lying Chuck Goudie and his make believe I-team. TV liars are more harmful than paper liars.
Zorn? People still read his column? My birds don't even want his article at bottom of the cage.
nothing happens in traffic court so they keep driving while suspended , do not fix compliance violations etc again the dope smokers with baby in the car are victims/heros
cannot wait to see how much dope in system of the last two criminals at the medical examiner
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