COPA! Copacabana
- The new agency charged with investigating police wrongdoing will be called the Civilian Office on Police Accountability, aldermen were told Monday as they haggled with the mayor’s office over final language.
Ald. Scott Waguespack (32nd), leader of the City Council’s Progressive Caucus, said he was generally pleased with the draft ordinance he was shown Monday. But there are several points of contention.
COPA, the new agency that will take the place of the soon-to-be-abolished Independent Police Review Authority (IPRA), will not have the authority to hire its own independent counsel, Waguespack said.
Nor would the new agency have a guaranteed percentage of the city budget to prevent the new COPA chief from going hat-in-hand to the mayor and City Council for additional resources, Waguespack said.
The new inspector general in charge of public safety would be chosen by Inspector General Joe Ferguson after a process that includes a nationwide search, the alderman said.
With all these direct connections to City Hall, what could possibly go wrong? Oh, and they're also empowered to investigate Taser usage, so we've got that going for us, too.
If anyone thinks that this isn't set up to (A) fire coppers and (B) fire coppers, we've got some beachfront land to sell you in Death Valley.
If anyone thinks that this isn't set up to (A) fire coppers and (B) fire coppers, we've got some beachfront land to sell you in Death Valley.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
97 Comments:
I suggest every department member downloaded the ring. tone of Barry Manilo song Copacabana.
So when you get called in to do statements you can have your cell ringing in interview rooms driving them crazy.
OPS, IPRA and now COPA.
The more thing change the more they stay the same.........
Her name was Lola , she was a show girl
Just the city creating patronage jobs . Plenty of money for new bureaucracies. None for you coppers.
And some more brilliance! COPA cannot hire ex police or prosecutors until they've been off the job for at least 5 years! Let's make sure
that no one in COPA has any law enforcement investigatory experience! That will be fair for the police! Civilian know- nothings will be running the show! Great idea!
I just love being a pawn , motivates me to get out there and give my best .
COPA = rail road a cop inc. In the end, they will give the citizens of Chi-raq the community and the police department they want--- God bless them
Don't sign out tazers!!!! Stay fetal!!!
Soviet style political commissars and nothing more.
The only option the copper will have after being railroaded will be the rope or the firing squad.
They gonna get take-homes, or use their own hoopties w/tints, beats, &c.?
City going to provide bullhorns & fresh batteries at all times?
Tio Hardiman going to run it, or who?
This I gotta see.
And cops are still out there doing proactive shit.
STAY FETAL
You may have to sign out a taser. You don't have to use it.
FETAL.
Learn it, live it, be it, do it.
You won't have to go to the COPA(cabana) if you come in with zeroes.
HELP, what was before OPS? i forgot. its bugging me. Ops, Ipra , now copaCabana.
SCC - When the mid day news reported the new agency name, the same song went thru my mind. The other good thing about copa is that it means drink in Spanish - this could be a triple entendre.
Will more crucial matters such as staff retention from IPRA or Sharon Fairly be settled or is this a repackaging of OPS/IPRA with the same cast of clowns? Will this agency drag out investigations for several years with the accused on the rubber gun squad? Will they have to complete the investigation within 6 months or ask for an extension from the AlderCreatures? Will ex-Disabilty Dean review the ordinance and make appropriate comments or will he be too busy with his wienie roast next Monday?
Retired .38 spl +P
I've had many bosses tell me over the years that the pendulum eventually will have to swing back the other way.... Um, when exactly will that be?! About to get my 3rd french-fry and this job just continues to swirl down the drain! Not even sure I wanna stick around to see what rock bottom looks like! Tempted to just dye my hair blue and go work at Whole Foods... In the suburbs and out of state!
What's even more disheartening is that coppers on tac, sat etc will continue to be proactive. I truly don't know, at this point, what more it will take for guys to finally shut it down. There will be absolutely nobody with any law enforcement experience on that board. This board is set up for the sole purpose of firing officers with relative ease. They will go after the contractual protections next, the union will fight it for sure but whomever is appointed as the arbitrator will get clear marching orders from city hall on this. Guys, please listen when I tell you it's over. Please stop being proactive, PLEASE...
A veteran supervisor who cares
At the COPA, Copabanana!
A kangaroo court to rival Havana!
Tick tick, I'm gone in a year, fuck Rahm and fuck this, Good luck youngsters, 20 yrs of big brother watching and 2nd guessing you and not having your back, b safe
In a tribune article IPRA Chief administrator Sharon Fairly said it would be unwise to ban former Chicago Police from serving as investigators. Alderman Leslie Hairston responded "a ban is warranted. There is a culture, there is a pattern and practice in the CPD, and it's multigenerational." So it's nice to know the Alderman thinks all of the CPD cannot be trusted. So if this new COPA is composed of like minded emotion based All Policee are Guilty period
Anyone with a hair on thier ass that will play Barry Manilow thorought the intercom phone system before a press conference at the Ivory tower?
No former CPD officers will be allowed to work at COPA so all who are working there now will lose their jobs. And, it could get worse if the review board becomes elected. Nothing like throwing the baby out with the bath water. So, it looks like the police will have to take a lot of crap from the morons on the street in the coming years or lose their jobs.So, stay fetal.
1st & 16th.... I raised my deffered comp to 750 a check a year ago. It grows preety fast
I want to see the qualifications of this soon to be COPA board and what their salaries will be.
Anyone want to contact the state training board after they are appointed to file a complaint about non-qualified persons investigating police involved shootings.
So let's get this right. For oversight, we have: an entire chain of command, IAD, COPACabana, a new inspector general and the DOJ, who will be here for another 10 years. Meanwhile, the city council runs their IG out of town and completely limits the power of the current IG to investigate them.
I think its awesome that they spend all their time on this bs and not anytime on the fact that this month was the bloodiest in 20 years (according to media). With all their college degrees and fancy titles you'd think they'd see the connection between what they are doing and the rising body count.
Well, the first issue is the word "Civilian" in the title...
--No Cop Here
fuck tiny dancer. I quit months ago but will tell them when I make my 20 in 2018.
This will be a group of liberal civilians with no idea how to do police work, deciding if the police did police work the right way. The only way to not get fired is to not do police work. They can't misjudge what you did if you didn't do anything.
Oh, and it's pretty much guaranteed that they will recommend firing for the smallest perceived infractions.
Can they name it the Civilian Police Oversight Committee? I want to notify CPIC and CPOC. How about Civilian Oversight Committee Keeping Safety Using Careful, Kind, Effective, Real Solutions?
We need new pro-police leadership from top down, we have pro-police pro-military Trump running for the top job, he even called out overpaid punk on national anthem Colin koeapernik:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/30/trump-calls-kaepernicks-refusal-to-stand-for-national-anthem-terrible.html
Like what Trump says while lying Hillary says nothing.
Death Valley? Sounds charming, SCC. I was looking for some place nice and warm to retire to.
Does that beach front land come with a police discount?...
Patronage jobs- no more no less.
LOL... all of these great new rules and oversight will have one effect... 1000 homicides/yr
What Chiraq really needs is Civilian Oversight Alderman Accountability or COAA.
Take a look at the percentage of Alderman sent to Federal Prison and the Amount of Police sent to Federal Prison.
The Amount of Alderman sent to Prison is Staggering. Yet the Police are the Problem!
Look at the amount of Rahms HANDPICKED staff who were found guilty or plead guilty to crimes. It is simply amazing.
So the mayor and 50 alderthieves are going to allow a bunch of handpicked citizens with ZERO investigative experience to investigate tazing and shootings by the police.
Yeah, I will respond real quickly to the alderman being attacked by some fool outside their office.
To the mayor, alderman, states attorney, scumbag lawyers, aclu, doj and citizens, You demand a police department that is hands off, YOU GOT IT!
I and just about everyone of my fellow officers are on board, less hands on for us and just more reports and downtime from now on.
20 more months and I am outta chiraq
Ivory Tower? Enjoying retirement in Mountain Home, Arkansas much? You wouldn't recognize the 1100 block of S. State St. today!
Just more letters to the alphabet soup. IPRA, IAD, DOJ,ACLU, FBI, ISP and now, COPA. Just how many levels of scrutiny before you get the message that nobody believes in police anymore? It's starting to look like the 1st and the 16th is getting harder to reach. They'll strip an officer if they sneeze too hard now...even fetal is too much. I'm starting to be like the sperm-in-the-sac. Pre-embryonic
I can just see Rhambakina dancing in the city hall vestibule with a large mountain of fruit balancing upon his tiny little head, salivating over how many police officers he is gonna fire. All the while he adds more officers to his security detail. If those officers had any balls they would par back to patrol. Oh yeah I forgot how cute they look in their shorts.
Hey Deano where are you. I hope you bought an idea about all of this. It seems like Mike Shields has a lot of ideas about how to handle this COPA thing. Maybe you should invite him over to the office and share a pot of herbal tea and he could tell you all about them.
That's a lot better of a plan to confront this bullshit than you have shown. You dancing little monkey who is just waiting to get snagletooth promoted to Sgt.
What jobs have you been offered? Huh?
I hear some musical coppers got together off-hours formed a tribute band covering the songs of John, Paul, George, & Ringo. Y'know play weddings, bar mitzvahs, merit promotion celebration parties ... They're called The Fetals.
I hope Rico runs it, he gets shit done.
Sounds like an Independent agency that Reviews Police Authority. Whats old is new again. Nonsense.
"No former CPD officers will be allowed to work at COPA..."
8/30/2016 01:57:00 AM
"No Experience Required" becomes "No Experience Allowed."
A good foundation to build on...
Just found out I was made a personal concern from an incident in 2011 another officer I know was also made a personal concern from 2013 is this happening throughout the dept. Hey fop how the fuck are they getting away with this.
8/30/2016 07:01:00 AM
You win the Internet for today, good Sir.
Jolly good show!
File requests for all their emails and phones. I want to know if they have any blatant, conscious or unconscious biases. If tax money goes to them, then they must follow the Constitution. Will they swear an oath? Will they be subject to perjury penalties? Government is supposed to be transparent.
Let the witch hunts begin! STAY FETAL!
Nationwide search. Love it.
Tell me did that U.S. Marine squad act properly under fire in Iraq yesterday. I don't know I never served in the Military and therefore have no combat experience. Therefore I am not qualified to judge them. Now insert Police in stead of Marines They are not qualified period.I don't care how much College, they have no real knowledge. And when you throw in the haters who just act on impulse and emotion we're done. Keep voting for the democrats though or some of you don't vote at all WAKE UP
Alderman Hairston???
Eugene "Bull" Hairston???
Almighty Black P. Stone Nation???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almighty_Black_P._Stone_Nation
How about Civilian Oversight Committee Keeping Safety Using Careful, Kind, Effective, Real Solutions?
8/30/2016 07:01:00 AM
I laughed
Before OPS was IAD. Before IAD was IID (Internal Investigations Division.
It's just like disbanding of SOS then calling it MSF or TRU. Like moving the object from your left hand and putting it in your right hand. Walah. Same object.
I am confused.
If IAD uses police agents (patrol officers) to investigate police why would COPA not hire police?
Are all police therefore corrupt?
Will COPA investigator be drug tested?
Will COPA police be able to pull up any police report/LEADS certified/Rap sheets etc.
Can an officer file lawsuit against COPA if they screw up?
I ain't doin sh*t except turning the AC on in my cruiser.
SCC...
You lost me when U titled this thread. I cant get Barry Manilow out of my mind now....Her name was Lola...she had feathers in her hair...and a dress cut down to there...she would meringue....and do the Cha-Cha....
RIP Barry
I did notice that in all these hearings, they cut out the white tax paying middle class. Is Hillary and Rham telling the middle class they have no business in Chicago?
A desperate man that has no idea of what to do. Time for rahm to through in the towel!
And Waguespack's Ward blew up with street robberies and assaults yesterday afternoon. Way to go, Alderman.
Just applied for a few out of state departments. Im confused why more officers are holding out.
Keep up the ISR's and Traffic Stops. This will pass faster and easy as a 6 oz. kidney stone.
Make every chase last. Make every arrest meaningful. Come in early and stay late. Be aggressive and hunt the CB like it's your last.
The sun will come out tomorrow - bet your bottom dollar.
Rahm and Special Ed love you.
Go ahead dumb fuckers, go ahead, keep making all of those pcs, dopw, pisser, gambling, etc. arrests. The day you become a youtube sensation is when you get screwed and don't look or even ask me for a benefit ticket.
For the record;
It was Bozo's Circus, but we all knew that Ringmaster Mr. Ned ran the Show.
Same thing here.
Boz, Cookie and Whizzo all posturing for the audience dominance, each trying to out-do the other with whacky shenanigans and zanie sideshows to get the Mr. Ned to let them lead the Grand March.
This is how CompStat was developed and currently presented.
Thought years ago they decided to protect coppers from politicians and handling of cases ...yada yada. WTF do you think your going to get when you mix corrupt politicians with police and allowing the corrupt to control....kinda like some of those PD's in the suburbs of years ago.....
More alphabet soup nonsense.
Wouldn't it be acceptable to have an aldermanic civilian oversight of professional/ethical standards? Now is the time to demand accountability. Let’s introduce affidavits for the distribution of those public funds or those coveted personal ward slush funds. How about video recordings of all meetings with lobbyists, influence peddlers and those involved or have interest in the formulation of ordinances with the aldermen or their staffs. All meetings should be recorded by body worn video cams made publically available through f.o.i. requests. All checks should be available to inspection on the internet must like a personal checking account including the bank routing numbers. Transparency at its best. A financial statement including tax returns, all assets and secondary employment must be annually disclosed under penalty of law foe their aldermen and their staffs.. After all, the public should breathe easy knowing that those who have the power to confiscate their wealth through taxes, fees and fines in a simple yeah or neah in the collective vote are squeaky clean. And let’s not forget their unchecked powers to regulate. The courts are a rubber stamp by judges who are bought, sold and aligned with the democrat party for their re-election bids.
I saw a news show with Tom Dart bragging about the money he's saving by closing sections of Cook County Jail and putting criminals on home monitoring,Why are Murders up?
COPAberra song boys and girls!!!
COPAberra sits in the old gum tree
eating all the gumdrops he can see
stop, COPAberra stop,
COPAberra leave some there for me
Anonymous said...
Can they name it the Civilian Police Oversight Committee? I want to notify CPIC and CPOC. How about Civilian Oversight Committee Keeping Safety Using Careful, Kind, Effective, Real Solutions?
8/30/2016 07:01:00 AM
Good one. The junior members could have the rank of Special Police Investigative
Technician, while the senior ranking member would be known as the South West Area Lead Liason Of the Watch.
Criminals Against Police Action
Criminals Oppose Police Action... My mistake.
A rose by any other name....
His name was Rico... If I ever have a son I'm gonna name him Rico.
PROJECTS are down , murders up
without Chicago's paramedics and Trauma centers saving the other 3900 shooting victims
murders would be over 1,000 already
(OT) rahms not involved?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/laquanmcdonald/ct-laquan-mcdonald-chicago-police-board-met-20160830-story.html
Stress free don't do anything.
Just one more reason to stay fetal.
Question - Anyone hear from or see the "Granny" chief from Seattle Washington making 150 K a year.
Is she hiding in the far side of the mail room at 35th. Street making moonshine for Church people from Alabama next door ? If Walter Jacobson was still an anchor he would find out about her hiding spot. Walter would probably report that Granny is a ghost on the payroll.
I got a call in to Fahey Flynn and Joel Daley from the old school anchors. Granny, Jetro is looking for you.
Don't sign out tazers!!!! Stay fetal!!!
If caught without one by an inspector, it's an automatic cr, and you'll have to merengue yourself down to the COPA cabana anyway.
Fly on the Wall: Several months ago I posted what Rahm and the Black Caucus wanted. What I said then if anyone remembers is what the Black and Hispanic Alderman wanted. The alderman wanted this and the alderman wanted that. The alderman are getting almost everything they want. Rahm is giving in to them. He knows if he doesn't, he will loose all support in the council. One of the issues that is causing a hang up is what to do with the personnel that is working there now. Many of the Alderman want to clear the slate clean. Many do, but some don't. there are several alderman that want to give the PO 's a fair ordinance: Ald Napalitano and Sposato The ethnic alderman are caving. (Zuluski, Quinn, OShea, ) The personnel who are working there now, do not know what their faith is. You are hearing it first now: It is going to be a mix bag. Some are going to be replaced, some are going to retire, some are going to stay. Remember, with the City, all one has to do is change the personnel code to replace personnel there now. The job and it's description can be identical but with a different code the personnel who are there now can loose their job and the City brings in their replacements. (their people) Believe me when I tell you, THE ALDERMAN WANT THOSE JOBS TO GIVE OUT TO THIER TOP PRECIENT CAPTAINS. As far as former Police Officers working in the unit, there were several former Police Officers who had worked there. The former Chief Administrator, Illana Rosenwicz, made it impossible for the former PO's because they saw thru the manure and found the very vast majority of the cases either Unfounded or Exonerated. Two of the former PO's were forced to resign because of the working conditions and a third got fired.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I ain't doin sh*t except turning the AC on in my cruiser.
8/30/2016 10:48:00 AM
So, it's hot in New York City, too?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ivory Tower? Enjoying retirement in Mountain Home, Arkansas much? You wouldn't recognize the 1100 block of S. State St. today!
8/30/2016 08:06:00 AM
The phrase has nothing to do with 1121 S. State Street
Here you go. I googled it for you:
i·vo·ry tow·er
noun: ivory tower; plural noun: ivory towers
a state of privileged seclusion or separation from the facts and practicalities of the real world.
"the ivory tower of academia"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC...
You lost me when U titled this thread. I cant get Barry Manilow out of my mind now....Her name was Lola...she had feathers in her hair...and a dress cut down to there...she would meringue....and do the Cha-Cha....
RIP Barry
8/30/2016 11:01:00 AM
Um, Barry's alive and well.
Re: 7:01 am. LMFAO !!!!
The "P" in COPA should stand for politicians. Stay strong CPD. This citizen respects you and hope that jagoffs like Rahm and other political hacks are out on the street soon enough.
"Music and Fashion were always the passion at the COPA"
You know Rahm and Eddie will want J'amal to be part of COPA.
COPA?? COPO would have been better. Court of Public Opinion. Need some help here.
Who's going to investigate wedding dresses stored in the crawl spaces of potential mayors and/ or alder thieves?
Just axin
Haven't seen granny, but caught sight of the ex-newscaster who earns 150g a year wearing a political statement tee shirt at HQ...inappropriate comes to mind.....if a white officer wore a similar tee with the word "white"..... On it, would most likely catch a CR
And those ass holes want activity now
Blogger grunt said...
And those ass holes want activity now
8/30/2016 10:26:00 PM
Ya know...
Anybody that "demands" activity in light
of how totally destroyed Policing is in
this town, needs to be slapped with the
activity shit-stick after it's snatched from
their hands.
Respond.
Report.
Re-locate.
Repeat.
Survive.
HERE at the Copa , Copa Cabana , The Hottest SPOT North of Havana
11:58 For The Record - You had me in stitches with the Bozo's Circus analogy!! Rahmbo's Circus is on the air!! And this 21st century circus has female clowns!! Can hear it now, who's your favorite clown? WHEEZIE!! And all COPA findings will be determined by a spin of the drum with the home viewers entry. 80% of the post cards will have SUSTAINED. 20% will be UNFOUNDED. 0% EXONERATED.
Retired .38 spl +P
no body making 150 g a year should be wearing a tee shirt---not even at a community picnic--- and more over no body in public service should be wearing a tee shirt to work (unless maybe you are a teenage day camp counselor--and even they could wear a polo shirt like target clerks)
Anonymous said...
COPA?? COPO would have been better. Court of Public Opinion. Need some help here.
8/30/2016 08:51:00 PM
Hmmmm...
Good one!
Excuse me investigator, when and where did you learn your investigatory skills. Can you please document these locations, persons, or classes you took and who certified you to become an investigator?
Rhambo . .
more lawsuits against the city with this new alphabet agency.
.... " and then the suspensions flew
Officers were fired too
Tell me who shot who
Here At the COPA Copacabana...."
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