Bug on the Wall
This could get interesting:
- It would have been a good idea to put cameras on those working at 35th Street. But that has not prevented the IG from actually uncovering proof of a cheating scandal on the Lieutenant's exam. Yes folks, it is true, and when it is made public, the fall out will be significant. Its far reaching up and down. Some will be charged criminally because they have profited from the cheating and some will be fired. If you accepted the promotion, and you cheated, you are getting locked up. If you cheated, and not yet gotten promoted, you will be fired.
Much of what has been assumed here is true, some is not. What is true is that the cheating occurred, proof has been obtained and heads will roll.
bug on the wall.
So the allegation of money changing hands might some truth to it? And that they used Department e-mail to set up the study group and payment?
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
125 Comments:
Yea right...this soon will pass.
do you think some of the old 11th district tact team would care to rat out the son of a former superintendent, who shared the actual test with his colleagues the night before the sergeant exam? seeing that con artist go down would be more gratifying.
Unbelievable.
Can't wait for the other shoe(s) to drop. Keep us informed cuz this won't be regularly reported on Chicago media. Got to protect Rahm at all cost and of course Rahm will feign disgust, demand those involved be fired and/or be charged criminally, and demand that a Blue Ribbon Panel lead the search for the next super from outside the city. And as always, exempts and those connected will be allowed to retire with whatever pension monies they have coming. The rest will be thrown to the wolves to satisfy the mob.
Remember NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER! Nothing happened to those cheating lieutenants and nothing will happen here!
Excellent. Its about time. Now if we can only find an FBI SA to finally hook Madigan.
Not Eddies girl! He did his dirty work for Rahm!
I dont believe it..sorry. if thats true then we need to go back years and grab others
>Squirt! SPLATTER! Toot!<
"WHAAAA! EDDIE SAVE MEEEEE!
I'M TOO PRETTY TO GO TO PRISON!
Ugh! My tummy HURTS!"
>BANG! Sputter! PFFFFFT!<
Serves you rotten, thieving, cheating
assholes right...
You nimrods thought it was
finally "Our Turn" to steal promotions
and pad pensions to kick back to your
political and clerical patrons.
A discussion on ethics is lost
on you lot...
Hell... It was lost on the m/fers
you learned this corrosive shit from.
"They did it so we can do it too!"
Crack-Pipe logic...
Succeed or fail on your own merits
and be content to try to do what's right
when it comes to this nasty, shit-doo-doo
job dealing with nasty, shit-doo-doo peoples
and folkses...
Call me cynical, but I won't believe it until I see it happen. If it's that big, high-reaching, and will snare up that many clouted people, I can't see it happening. Chicago ain't ready for reform, indeed.
Please please let this investigation come forth. Several of us have been holding our breath waiting to exhale when the investigation is finally done and the corruption is exposed.
The corrupt bounch of cheaters should all be terminated with extreme prejudice. It is a shame the lame duck media has not given this more attention. If you think about it the cheaters have all illegally earned well over $12,000 in stolen money!
And most of them had the nerve to be walking around bragging on themselves and acting untouchable because they are members of UnNoble or involved with a deputy chief.
I say hooray for the IG the only city department left with some ethics!!!
Yeah sure I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing happens to the clouted. This department is a mess from top to bottom. One big joke! Now the big story is the supposed hiring of 500. News flash...You better lift residency if you want to attract a bigger and better pool applicants cause no one wants this job anymore and forced residency is a major turnoff. Why would someone living outside Chicago want to move to do this job?
I can't fuckin wait .
I believe that I was cheated out of a Sgts promotion at least once.
Im retired, but still angry about it
Sorry, but I hope heads roll
Bug On Wall, 7,000 Cameras...
What I want to know, is --
Joe & Frank's at Harlem/Archer shut down. Used to be packed w/customers and 20 people behind meat case already cutting your bacon when they saw you.
WTF gray pickup marked "MADIGAN/QUINN SERVICE VEHICLE" and phone # 773-583-8800, 4 deep w/lugs, sitting in parking lot this evening watching people get out, come up, try suddenly-locked doors, drive away again?
Another Rahm I. "Initiative for Chicago businesses?"
Might get a few in the middle, but you're losin more out the sides, bud. "50% inventory reduction."
So argue with "gone."
If Obama's DOJ was actually interested in improving the Chicago Police Department, this is where they would be looking. They should do everything they can to root out corruption, incompetence, and mismanagement in the CPD. With competent leadership, the CPD would root out any racism and abuse itself. Instead the clouted clowns criminally cover up for each other, just ask Koschman's Mother.
Clean up the leadership, and they will make the CPD great again.
Inspector General Joseph Ferguson is in City Hall's hip pocket. There's no way Ferguson will expose EXAMSCAM II.
Don't bogart that fattie. This is Chicago!
Honest police can only hope.
Dear lord be true!
Locked up, fired?? Never. We're talking about clout, sorry
Won't believe it until I see it.
What's going to happen to the former Chief W. who played a huge role in this $cam?
Cheating has been going on forever ! It s a way of life in this town . It's accepted culturally . If the IG went into the past sergeants exams they would find numerous cases of cheating all the way up from superintendents sons to their drivers . How many girlfriends and relatives of exempt personnel were allowed to view the test prior to being given it . I would be shocked if anyone were fired or incarcerated . I have a suggestion . Make every person who passed the last sergeant and lieutenants tests from 1998 until the present take a lie detector test to ensure they were not cheating . Don't fire them or impriaon them just demote them . So everyday while their pushing a beat car everyone would know exactly who and what they are . Don't let Ernst and Young off the hook though . They are as crooked as anyone else !
never did anyone believe that it was a merely a koinkydink that the 1st's wife was the top scorer and a Chief's fiance aced the test.
Nuffins gonna happen. I wish the bug on the wall was correct.
So is Granny Kirkpatrick getting her 4 star collar pins ready when the IG report comes out with Ed the Stripper as the fall guy? Or will Rahmulus decide to make headway with the alternative lifestyle community and name the current Chief of Detectives the next Supt.? Will the City Council decide that these persons do not need to be vetted - just like Ed the Stripper didn't need a Police Board seal of approval?
The shit show continues. Wheezy better watch out! She should contact ex-Lie-tenant Regina Evans and see if they can be cell mates!
Retired .38 spl +P
Thats fantastic! Get ready for that tap on the shoulder mr.superintendent. you and,all your buddies that knew about this and,who participated in it now have to answer. These fucking coward idiots that had to cheat and,the criminals that provided the answers and took money will now have to answer for it. And to think this bullshit dept pushes ethics training down our throats.you morons didn't think the G boys were here just for the deplorables in blue shirts did you? What arrogance you have if you thout that. Thank god the sgts on my watch are all awesome down to earth guys. The two lts.are actually pretty good too. But,the majority of them are cowardly asshats that never had a hard day in their lives.stay safe,stay fetal. Vote Trump.
That's too bad. Our department has enough issues right now.
It believe it's all because of that #1 spot. Just plain greedy. Next time just leave when you man leaves.
If what you are saying is true, I'm getting my popcorn ready & sit back to watch the shit show
They should look at Sgt's also !!!!
What will out 3rd watch LT (RM) in 008 do when the IG releases his findings and recommendations to Rahm? When this gets released at 9am I am calling in to take emergency CU just to avoid his constant WTF comment out of his mouth.
Well(cheater) RM. It was fun while it lasted wasn't it? Maybe you can go back to Joliet.
Blah blah blah. I'll believe it when I see it.
BS. This will never happen. Too many black sgts involved. It would look bad. Just like the Austin 25, became the Austin 7 for racial political reasons.
Not gonna happen.
Hopefully they're investigating the sergeant test from a couple years ago as well. Some questionable people in NOBLE scored awfully high.
I can name several of our elite who passed thick envelops to Corlis before being anointed to Lt.
sure buddy. dont hold your breath
Would love to see some of the people responsible for helping to destroy this department take the fall, but that doesn't normally happen in shitcago unless the Feds get involved. I don't see the nine digit midget letting his Supt take a fall and putting another stain on the little runt's already tarnished legacy.
So, you have police officers using a police department email to commit a crime... They should definitely be promoted.
Sorry, this is someone's fantasy
The only place the cheating scandal is being discussed/investigated is on the blog and among some cops.
The IG does not have an open investigation, the aldertheives don't care, the public doesn't care who gets promoted and who is sleeping with who and being given answers.
It's been who you know and what you pay since the first constable stepped on the street way back when
A bug on the wall said your bug is crazy, too many of one particular group
Hope this is true!
Get them all, from Gene on down. I bet every last one of them has an ulcer from the stress of wondering what is going to happen!!
This is a pipe dream. The "scandal" is over.
To the person "with this inside info", you forgot to end your post with.... "I heard it from a guy, who knows a guy, who heard it from a chick who once was assigned to HQ" Come on tell us how you know, who told you, or just keep your mouth shut. We all know no one is getting locked up for this, let alone fired. They were black and in this current country we live in that's all you need to be to untouchable. Remember black lives matter.... also, this behavior has always gone on i this dept. look at certain boss holes kids who are the dumbest rocks but manage to make rank?! Really do you think they did it legit?! Yea right. Look at what the "Greek mafia" has done on this job for each other. We could go on and on, Irish, poles, Italians.... they all did it and got away with it. Look at Daley and his evil doings... still doing them. So you want to blame someone... blame the assholes that started the mind set in this city that it's ok to, lie, cheat, and steal. what needs to be done is a total gut of the command staff top to bottom. The clean house and start over, cheaters locked up and fired... hahaha that's rich. Go back to whatever inside desk you have and stay quite unless you can actually name names and provide details pertinent to the supposed cheating that will actually help stop any further damage to the dept. all in all just another gossip post. It's a shame that no one outside cares about what they did during that exam, yes it was wrong, yes they need to be dealt with, but it will never happen. Sad but true; so move along and stay fetal... oh yea Rham, the clintons, and the kingfish in the WHITE house are all to blame before anyone else.
Been hearing this here for months. Will believe if when I see it.
Brazen. They thought they were untouchable.
Hard to swallow based upon what didn't happen to the upper echelons of the CPD that assisted in the Koschman cover up. No fed will ever touch a Daley crime family case!
Will NEVER happen. Total Bullshit
Wee Zee won't be able to handle jail time, and Rerun has been chating with a new desk dolly at 35 th Street, the love story is ending.
no fucking way
OMG, cheating on a promotional exam in the CPD! It would be a bigger story if there were no cheating. Forty years ago, an old sergeant of mine saw me with a book and asked what it was for. I told him I was studying for the Sergeants test. He said "Kid that's the wrong book. You should be studying your checkbook." The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Blah blah blah, we have heard it all before and nothing will happen. This job is dead, policing in America is dead and if you are out there working than you are a complete moron and deserve to be fired. Sit back, answer job, code and repeat. It's a DOG world and I'm proud to be one, now give me an event # for my PEZ mission squad.
765B
Prosecutions will never happen.
Too many (ALL of the people indicated) high ranking people of color involved. SpedEd's girlfriend is implicated, Mrs Wysinger is implcated . All involved will be allowed to retire quietly.
YES!!!!!!!! I like this bug on the wall fuck these cheating assholes!!!! With all these P/Os getn fired for going out there & doing their job this will be VERY just!!!! I'm sure most of these hacks belong to noble!!!!
I don't believe for a second anything will happen to any of them. Not a single thing.
With the announcement of the city hiring 500 new officers, the city stated that the retirement rate is between 200-300 officers a year. I really doubt that number is even close to the truth. Add the number of actual retirements with those that are leaving this job for other opportunities and the number I bet is closer to 500 this year. We are not keeping up with the attrition rate. If they promote 100 sgts, 50 lts and 200 detectives, that will leave the patrol division with 350 less officers to man patrol cars. I know we are desperate to promote detectives but tell the truth. Retirements are at the highest rate in years. It would be nice if the FOP would reveal the retirement rate for 2017. Also consider the quality of new recruits with lowered standards and the quality of training. Sad
Rahm wants Chicago to be the best at something..... here it is
http://www.businessinsider.com/chicago-driving-the-us-murder-rate-2016-9
An independent prosecutor should be appointed ASAP!
Absolutely one hundred percent not true. The case has been closed administratively by the IG's office. Fact. And no I'm not involved in the case nor that I take the Lieutenant's exam.
The same "Old Story" all over again...the phone calls have alre4ady been made. The "clouted" will not get hurt. There will be lots of sabre rattling. There will be cries of reform, and the band will play on...
I'm retired now. There has ALWAYS had money changing hands for promotions.
As long as politicians run the police department, it will be corrupt.
Nothing will happen to no one. We have had cheating scandals that have been proved int he past. They will never demote those that benefited from the demotion. They will never discipline those that conducted and assisted the promotion of cheaters. Never have in the past, never will in the future. The Democratic Judges will say that the horse has already left the barn, just close the door an make sure it doesn't happen again, at least fro a few years. People wonder why the Department is so f'd up. Because half the people the rank of Captain and above are there because of politics not competence. And, don't throw stones. Is someone came to you and said I will make you a boss, sergeant, lieutenant, etc. You would not say no, you would say how soon?
Please tell me all of this is true! Heads need to roll! This and other things are one of the main reason this department has gone to shit. No sympathy for those who lied, cheated, stole promotions! It has to stop now! Now get rid of all meritorious promotions as well.
Any bets nothing will happen do you honestly think that a minority will lose a supervisor spot on CPD think again. This corrupt department will continue with business as usual nothing to see here just move along. Stay Fetal because you will get thrown under the bus
Some will be charged criminally because they have profited from the cheating and some will be fired. If you accepted the promotion, and you cheated, you are getting locked up. If you cheated, and not yet gotten promoted, you will be fired.
I'll believe when I see it.
What will happen is a bunch of last minute resignations. Can't have a scandal like this besmirching the department. I'm sure some scandal involving a few blues shirts will be hastily put together to divert attention from these cheating white shirts.
Wheezy( Lie-Tenant Fenner) still struts around like her shit don't stink.
God I hope there's some truth to this post.
A bug on the wall clearly sees the cockroach in the corner.
Let's see just how pointy the toes of the IG's boots are.
Probably not as sharp as the FBI's Dir. James Comey.
The penalty phase:
Strip the phony scores, take 30 and get the bars back on a 30% merit in 2017.
They'll be promoting in October and again in April-May.
Divervse, Fair n' Square.
Re...
Locked up, fired?? Never. We're talking about clout, sorry.
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Finally, someone with some common sense. We all wish that crazy shit would happen, but it won't because of the parties involved.
Calling bullshit on this one for one reason and one reason only. There are no rats jumping ship as there always are before shit comes rolling downhill!!!.
Anonymous said...
What will out 3rd watch LT (RM) in 008 do when the IG releases his findings and recommendations to Rahm? When this gets released at 9am I am calling in to take emergency CU just to avoid his constant WTF comment out of his mouth.
Well(cheater) RM. It was fun while it lasted wasn't it? Maybe you can go back to Joliet.
9/21/2016 05:27:00 AM
Hurry back JD, this guy is out of control
Hey SSC I love this site but you must be drinking the cool-aid on this one. Do you remember how everyone was saying that the Head of the FBI, James Comey, was beyond reproach? Do you remember how the media went ga-ga over the fact that he was the best Director the FBI ever had? Sorry, Joe Fergusson is comparable to James Comey. His report will state something like this: We have investigated this allegation very thoroughly and although the appearance that a group of individuals' who attended a closed class, did in fact pass the test resulting in these people getting promoted, no substantial evidence could be found that there was in fact cheating. The appearance that these individual's attended this class and got promoted does suggest that cheating occurred. Although there was a closed group of individual's who got promoted from this class, we can not find any substantial evidence that the test questions were given out to this group. During this investigation we interviewed all of the participants of this group and no one came forward and admitted taking part in these allegations. In the future, we recommend that no exempt personnel conduct a promotional test class. Joe Ferguson is James Comey, he was given a offer he could not refuse, maybe not in a airplane on a tarmac, but he was given the order. Sorry guys, NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's going to happen to the former Chief W. who played a huge role in this $cam?
9/21/2016 03:40:00 AM
What's going to happen to N.O.B.L.E. Gene?
He's going to keep collecting his 6 figure pension from CPD, along with a nice salary from some new, clout heavy, position.
Business as usual.
I'd love to see the grossly incompetent Lie-Tenant Fenner take the hit.
Worth repeating:
OT - anyone really want the lt.'s exam cheatfest investigated? Here's what you need to do.
First you must be non-black. Sorry, but that's the only way this will work. Second, you must have taken both parts of the exam and not yet been promoted.
Qualify?
OK, next go down to the EEOC and tell them this:
1 The department has discriminated against you in the promotional process because of your race
2 a chief (go ahead and name him) in the department ran a study group open only to members of the departmen who belong to a racist fraternal organization of which the accused chief is also the president
3 as a result, members of that organization, who are also department members, received information that gave them an advantage in the promotional process over similarly situated, non-black members
4 the department became aware of the discrimination and did nothing to stop the process or investigate the allegations
That's it. This will get you in the door. Because this is a class discrimination, the EEOC will be forced to at least do a cursory investigation. As they have subpoena power, they will be able to compel testimony from everyone, including the dirtbags who have already retired. This is your best bet for a legit investigation. Good luck!
9/19/2016 10:50:00 AM
Hey SCC, as much as i KNOW and hope this comes to fruition, I won't hold my breathe. This city is soooo corrupt that the little midget would NEVER let this come out. He would fire Ferguson before letting this out. The only way would be if an intelligent worker for Ferguson made copies of the information and they found there way to a reputable media source, not the slumtimes or fibune.
Will never happen. NEVER!!!!
Phat Phil should be the first one in chains.
Its going to happen. Remember, they tried to torpedo Rahm and undercut him. This is his opportunity to get back. Also, they can diversify the line up with those from IAD that made merit.
Anonymous said...
Yea right...this soon will pass.
9/21/2016 12:15:00 AM
"GRUNT!"
>BANG! Spatter! SQUEAK!<
"Eddie! I'm out of paper in here!"
Yes 500 new higher score but 1200 plus retire in 2017!!!!!
....only person(s) to be fired or jailed are the investigating ones who found the cheaters, and anyone who cooperated with them...truth about this, is...Chicago is not ready for reform....
Cue in prancing Mayor appointing a blue ribbon panel to look into this...all lackeys and hacks step forward.
cameras for caps officers in 003 , always in the field
doing what ??
A bit off topic. The department screwed up their new summer mobile detail by starting it mid period. Everyone not volunteering for it, so nearly the whole detail, gets time and a half until the next period begins on 09 October. It comes out to 60 hours of OT per PO or Sgt. 35th St. is trying to keep this on the down low
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Remember NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER! Nothing happened to those cheating lieutenants and nothing will happen here!
9/21/2016 12:25:00 AM
Correct. And none of them were demoted.
The only way this sees the light of day is if the non-cheating sgts start a class action lawsuit and subpoena any evidence the IG has. Otherwise this will just disappear. And the only way the public will care about it is after a catastrophe occurs and one of the cheaters ends up in command. The resulting chaos caused an inept cheating boss may make people realize what's at stake when u promote these kinds of people
While you guys are at it let's go back some years to a certain tactical team getting most of its team members promoted by "score" and ranking under 300. A team from 011.
They had a secret study group too.
What will out 3rd watch LT (RM) in 008 do when the IG releases his findings and recommendations to Rahm? When this gets released at 9am I am calling in to take emergency CU just to avoid his constant WTF comment out of his mouth.
Well(cheater) RM. It was fun while it lasted wasn't it? Maybe you can go back to Joliet.
R.M. did not cheat. R.M. is a stand up guy from 011. Saw him last week and laughed about the test. He was one of the few who did not cheat. If you can't get along with him you must be a dog ass.
The Big Bulls are already fighting on whose Cellie WeeZee going to be partners .Wee Zee ask Sandy Jackson how it went, not to good , she broke in one day
If this happens, how many people are we talking about ?
I worked with a guy who if he was told to do something he didn't want he would get on the phone to his clout and then hand the phone to the supervisor so he could be told the score. That asshole is an exempt now. I have seen to many of them to count who have 2 minutes on the job and demand days or desk duty, tac, whatever and get it through connections and think nothing of it and our oblivious to the fact that their peers hate them because hey, there's another gravy train around the corner for them and fuck the rest of us.
That's the small stuff that feeds and grows the patronage beast that leads to all the undeserved assignments and promotions by unqualified people that take money and opportunity out of the pockets of the unconnected.
I spent 20 on the street before I got promoted, and then I was assigned to the farthest least desirable spot they could think of. I have groused for years about "merit" secret study groups, R&D insiders and all the other political BS on the job when it comes to promotions and assignments. Being a lifelong Chicagoan I thought I was prepared for all the dirty dealing but it was more corrupt than I had imagined.
These shit bags like hide behind the statement "you would do it if you had the chance" . That statement makes them feel better about their undeserved path on the job but they know that we know that they are paper tigers.
Please don't make the argument that this goes on in most jobs. If you work at an insurance company and the president gives your promotion to his new son in law that's the risk you take in the private sector. Civil service is supposed to be legit.
So I say OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
I hope you are right but Ferguson is a pos sycophant to Rahm. He plays this outfit wannabe game and he will do whatever Rahm tells him to do. This I fear will not go public and the lieutenants will get off. I'm sure davina from iAd cheated too.
I will believe firings and indictments for cheating when I see it. Considering who is involved it won't happen. Besides it is nothing that the Irish didn't do for generations.
Yeah, right.
I'll believe it when I see some white shirts being perp-walked.
Until then? Yawn.
Democrat Politicians gotta get their own people in, so the Kickbacks are guaranteed to keep rolling in. IG: these bosses are almost all corrupt, droppin, $$$, for promotions and plum assignments. The straight Cop doesn't stand a chance in Chicago, and you all know it.
Term Limits Now....
Charlotte PD Highly professional Hats off the great response to lawlessness
Training is the key
Charlotee PD But In CLOUTED Chicago the Brass would have its thumb up their ass at give the streets to the protestors Ala Rham
A bit off topic. The department screwed up their new summer mobile detail by starting it mid period. Everyone not volunteering for it, so nearly the whole detail, gets time and a half until the next period begins on 09 October. It comes out to 60 hours of OT per PO or Sgt. 35th St. is trying to keep this on the down low
Nice Job Anonymous 35th Street Stop Posting BS to lure Pos to tragedy
Offtopic LT Ray Ray Hamilton Still on Leave of Absence after 5 yrs How So?????? HEs No longer at Crook County
I agree what does caps po's do....sgt is solid some po's though much to be desired...what the hell its 003. Desk still trying to blow off jobs even after dr seus rhyme time green eggs and ham
Phat Phil should be the first one in chains.
Someone told me he makes a salary over $150,000 in his position with the Police Memorial Foundation. Can anyone verify?
wish it be true. all that super-pac money gunna keep this truth known to the few.
If you are holding your breath you should be dead by now. You will be dead of old age before the truth comes out. Would be a good first step in the fight to restore trust in the PD but just the first step in a block long battle. The machine has a large swatter BUG watch your step try to stay out of the shit that the PD has become.
Come on SCC you are better than to make this a serious post. You know as we all do this is bs even if there is proof those invilved will get a talking to and tell them how bad it is to cheat and promise to never do it again
... The department screwed up their new summer mobile detail by starting it mid period. Everyone not volunteering for it, so nearly the whole detail, gets time and a half until the next period begins on 09 October...
Who makes these idiotic decisions?...Is there anyone in charge with half an ounce of common sense?...granted none of the recent command staff have any real upper management experience and lack needed brains to be good at the job---but hasn't anyone of them ever read a contract,- or paid attention to the past-----am sure they never were in a position to grieve or fight for the rights of their officers--but could they at least pay attention to the real world......
That's it. This will get you in the door. Because this is a class discrimination, the EEOC will be forced to at least do a cursory investigation. As they have subpoena power, they will be able to compel testimony from everyone, including the dirtbags who have already retired. This is your best bet for a legit investigation. Good luck!
9/19/2016 10:50:00 AM
It's all been done. There is a named outcry victim/witness. There is evidence in the e-mails that were collected from the Department e-mail system. There is a co-operative witness in the first woman called down. She squealed like a pig and rolled over to get the first seat on 'the bus'.
They have their airtight and embarrassing case, but there is a problem with the make up of all of the offenders. There is a also another problem with the same group having the answers to the Sgts test, another scandal. All of you citizens that pay taxes are the ones that should be mad about this.
So much for the best and the brightest. Rumors of a few select individuals getting help on previous tests was bad. We are now talking about an entire group being given answer sheets so even a moron could get promoted. That is who will be leading YOUR Police department. That is who will be responsible for your safety and the one that will be responsible for the lawsuits on down the line.
I assume this will end up in the same hole the Clinton scandal will end up in. She perjured herself. Even if they can't prove any of the other charges, she did that on national television in front of the whole Country. That is without question and that alone should not only put her out of the Presidential race, it should put her in prison. Nixon lied about his knowledge of a burglary and was rightfully shown the door. Everything she has done is a thousand times worse.
Where is our Country's moral compass? How can we just take this? Where is the outrage?
There's an investigation going on here and in light of the Kochman debacle and manipulating that outcome, I would be wary if the IG is willing to manipulate this one in favor of city hall. The big difference here is that there is a whistleblower or two along with electronic messages, emails, texts, etc. Some savy reporter ( not from mainstream media mind you) can FOIA everything and questions will roar on why this or that wasn't done. I'm betting on forced retirement to save face and not getting the black revs in an uproar. Don't expect criminal charges, it will all be based on rule and policy violations.
Like most every decent cop I talked to and as plenty of comments reflected on you blog, SCC, I don't see anything changing. There is absolutely no will to change things in this corrupt city, county and state. Sure, someone without clout will be used as a scapegoat and be punished for their behavior. They will be offered up to the gods of public relations and political expediency to make it seem like the brass and the mayor are doing something. HOWEVER, the clouted will be protected. The clouted in this town is what is wrong with it.
With exam scam, there are too many clouted on that list of lieutenants. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. The IG is simply blowing smoke. He won't change a thing. The DOJ will protect the very same people, too. God help us all in this crooked city.
Worth repeating:
OT - anyone really want the lt.'s exam cheatfest investigated? Here's what you need to do.
First you must be non-black. Sorry, but that's the only way this will work. Second, you must have taken both parts of the exam and not yet been promoted.
Qualify?
OK, next go down to the EEOC and tell them this:
1 The department has discriminated against you in the promotional process because of your race
2 a chief (go ahead and name him) in the department ran a study group open only to members of the departmen who belong to a racist fraternal organization of which the accused chief is also the president
3 as a result, members of that organization, who are also department members, received information that gave them an advantage in the promotional process over similarly situated, non-black members
4 the department became aware of the discrimination and did nothing to stop the process or investigate the allegations
That's it. This will get you in the door. Because this is a class discrimination, the EEOC will be forced to at least do a cursory investigation. As they have subpoena power, they will be able to compel testimony from everyone, including the dirtbags who have already retired. This is your best bet for a legit investigation. Good luck!
9/19/2016 10:50:00 AM
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Per Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 there are prima facie circumstances where you can bring an action for racial discrimination. Good luck with that if you are a white guy and here's why: Your race must have been hired/promoted at a rate 80% of the most dominant race. So if 20 blacks took the Lt. test, and 10 were promoted, then blacks have a 50% rate. 80% x 50% = 40%. SO if whites were promoted at less than 40% you have a case.
Wasn't the "whistleblower" offered their own merit promotion to back off?
These aren't the cheaters you are looking for. Move along.
The ones who cheated will fade away...The ones responsible for cheating will retire and get a 2nd pension job. It's the Chicago way....The ones who didn't get caught and kept their mouth shut will get promoted meritoriously.
Chicago....corrupt politics since the 1800's...I'm amazed we elected a president from this town. Stupid is as stupid does.
Nuff said...
Anonymous said...
... The department screwed up their new summer mobile detail by starting it mid period. Everyone not volunteering for it, so nearly the whole detail, gets time and a half until the next period begins on 09 October...
Who makes these idiotic decisions?...Is there anyone in charge with half an ounce of common sense?...granted none of the recent command staff have any real upper management experience and lack needed brains to be good at the job---but hasn't anyone of them ever read a contract,- or paid attention to the past-----am sure they never were in a position to grieve or fight for the rights of their officers--but could they at least pay attention to the real world......
9/22/2016 06:49:00 AM
Oh, no! Could it be Penelope? Again?
How much has she cost the City, so far, in her new position?
The citizens should sue her personally for restitution.
Anonymous said...
I will believe firings and indictments for cheating when I see it. Considering who is involved it won't happen. Besides it is nothing that the Irish didn't do for generations.
9/21/2016 08:17:00 PM
It was wrong when THEY did it, too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Phat Phil should be the first one in chains.
Someone told me he makes a salary over $150,000 in his position with the Police Memorial Foundation. Can anyone verify?
9/22/2016 12:11:00 AM
Oh yes, very true. Phil takes more than $150 and John Gordon takes over $140K as “Project Manager”. In fact for 2014 (the latest IRS 990s filing available) the Foundation paid out $402,896 in Salaries, other compensation and employee benefits.
/Users/goldmacbook/Desktop/CPMF 2014 990s.pdf
I'm calling bulls$&t on this one. Too many higher ups involved.
... The department screwed up their new summer mobile detail by starting it mid period. Everyone not volunteering for it, so nearly the whole detail, gets time and a half until the next period begins on 09 October...
Old news, no one cares except the people who volunteered for the Summer (Fall) Mobile Unit, those are the ones who got screwed.
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Per Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 there are prima facie circumstances where you can bring an action for racial discrimination. Good luck with that if you are a white guy and here's why: Your race must have been hired/promoted at a rate 80% of the most dominant race. So if 20 blacks took the Lt. test, and 10 were promoted, then blacks have a 50% rate. 80% x 50% = 40%. SO if whites were promoted at less than 40% you have a case.
9/22/2016 08:43:00 AM
This is not a prima facie case, but a case that can be proven with evidence and testimony. Prima facie does not apply in this case. I'm not sure you know what it means.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Per Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 there are prima facie circumstances where you can bring an action for racial discrimination. Good luck with that if you are a white guy and here's why: Your race must have been hired/promoted at a rate 80% of the most dominant race. So if 20 blacks took the Lt. test, and 10 were promoted, then blacks have a 50% rate. 80% x 50% = 40%. SO if whites were promoted at less than 40% you have a case.
9/22/2016 08:43:00 AM
This is not a prima facie case, but a case that can be proven with evidence and testimony. Prima facie does not apply in this case. I'm not sure you know what it means.
9/22/2016 08:20:00 PM
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The first step, when bringing a lawsuit, I believe, is to file an EEOC beef. I think that is required, but I am not 100% sure.
TO find out the racial #;s, my guess is you'd have to file the lawsuit, then get the #;s through discovery. Kind of a backwards way to do it I know.
Usually a lot more whites take the Lt. exam than blacks I would guess. If a low # of whites were promoted, then you may indeed have a prima facie case. And this lawsuit BTW, has nothing to do with cheating. It simply says too many blacks and not enough whites were hired. Blacks have brought this same lawsuit for numerous CPD promotional exams. Thats how the "blue ribbon" committee brought about merit on the 1993 (somewhere around there) Sgt's test.
My guess is that whites (or hispanics) were not promoted to Lt. at a rate greater than or equal to 80% the number of blacks.
Once that prima facie case is made (simply by the numbers) you are not done. The city must/may (if they are able to) prove the test is reliable and predicts job performance. THe Fire Dept. could not prove the entrance exam predicted job performance, and the Tuskegee firemen all got on with 10 years senority and backpay. THe court ruled there was a portion of the entrance exam that involved watching a video and taking notes. Some candidates did not do so well on this. The court said the ability to take notes from a video does not predict fireman performance, and this the test did not predict job performance. If the test did predict job performance, the city could hire 100% Asians and no one could say boo.
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Anonymous said...
I will believe firings and indictments for cheating when I see it. Considering who is involved it won't happen. Besides it is nothing that the Irish didn't do for generations.
If the Irish did do it--they were at least intelligent people who were promoted.
"If the Irish did do it--they were at least intelligent people who were promoted.
9/23/2016 04:01:00 PM"
You're kidding right? John Townsend, Tommy The Thumb Bryne, John Finnegan, Capt White Rat Phelan and hundreds of other incompetents with Irish surnames.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I will believe firings and indictments for cheating when I see it. Considering who is involved it won't happen. Besides it is nothing that the Irish didn't do for generations.
If the Irish did do it--they were at least intelligent people who were promoted.
9/23/2016 04:01:00 PM
Yes, I agree with both of the above comments. I will believe it when I see it. I recall the very strong rumors, some of which were backed up by agents in the FBI, of drug dealing by some of our exempts. Nothing ever came of it and nothing will ever come of these cheating investigations. And, yes the Irish and the Italians, and the unions were behind cheating on exams and selling promotions for generations. In 1976 it was 5 grand for sergeant, 20 grand for captain. But, it is time all of this stops and this should be the time.
Per Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 there are prima facie circumstances where you can bring an action for racial discrimination. Good luck with that if you are a white guy and here's why: Your race must have been hired/promoted at a rate 80% of the most dominant race. So if 20 blacks took the Lt. test, and 10 were promoted, then blacks have a 50% rate. 80% x 50% = 40%. SO if whites were promoted at less than 40% you have a case.
9/22/2016 08:43:00 AM
No attorney would take such a case and no judge or jury would rule in the white males favor. I recall back in the 70's the ACLU would not even talk to white males.And, I believe it is still the case, especially when you hear the constant chattering of " white privilege"
Anonymous said...
Offtopic LT Ray Ray Hamilton Still on Leave of Absence after 5 yrs How So?????? HEs No longer at Crook County
9/21/2016 09:02:00 PM
nothing like the long leave of absence foe Eddie Burke, who was able to stay on a leave, pay into the pension fund and ultimately retire as a sergeant. And, he was not alone in that as others have done the same thing, and took promotion exams while on their leave. Nice work if you can get it.
Go back some years and look at the promotions made by chief Richardson of noble fame. A real piece of work.
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