Hey Look! Look at Fran!
- Driven by low morale and lured by the expiring offer of free health insurance at age 55, 274 Chicago Police officers have declared their intention to retire by June 30, making it more difficult for Mayor Rahm Emanuel to deliver on his two-year promise to bolster the police force by 970 officers.
And that doesn't seem to take into consideration sergeants and above taking the same benefit. Nor the officers who are already past 55 and just hanging around until something drives them to retire. Or those facing mandatory retirement at age 63. All of which are likely to push the numbers past the 500 mark.
Rahm's fuzzy numbers don't pass the smell test.
And someone let Fran Spielman write about it.
Rahm's fuzzy numbers don't pass the smell test.
And someone let Fran Spielman write about it.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
90 Comments:
I think it's too late . They have lost control . Good luck getting anyone to apply for this job let alone pass all the tests . Between retirements , quits and firings hiring will not keep up , forget increasing overall manpower .
Clamoring for more Journalists to report the in depth truth rather than playing up to one-sided coverage---making the good citizen walk the plank while letting politicians, too often scoundrels, off the hook. Get a life...if you are reporting on an issue...write both sides of the story. Don't squander your reputation by misleading the public. Your reputation is the only thing you take with you when you die. Life is too precious than to be bought and paid for with a few extra bucks and a rubber chicken dinner.
OT - Received a postcard notification today to renew my license plates. So, I guess Illinois has money for that again.
How hollow will the police force be in the Taxpaying neighborhoods?
"Driven by low morale..."
Driven by -- yes! -- the Ferguson Effect, you mean.
Do right, defend yourself, and the last we heard Ofc. Darren Wilson couldn't even keep a job at a shoe store because of the constant, baying media pack outside.
Need to hold back and let some hulking, doped-up cop-fighter give you a brain injury to be "praised for your restraint" in this town, where the "Sanctity Of Criminal Life" has now been codified.
This is real simple. We are getting the message.
Surprised?
Uh oh Rahmenomics is starting to swing in the beeeze like the house of cards that it is.
Rahm's yes men will be trying to force feed Fran some of the city hall kool aid.
Per the Lieutenant's contract, Lieutenants will be able to apply for the 55 and out healthcare benefit, provided that they apply between May 1 - December 31 of this year. They have to provide a 30 day notice prior to leaving.
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
Info found on page 81 of the Lieutenant's contract.
Does anyone know how many sgts and lts have put in to retire next yesr?
Anonymous said...
"Driven by low morale..."
Driven by -- yes! -- the Ferguson Effect, you mean.
Do right, defend yourself, and the last we heard Ofc. Darren Wilson couldn't even keep a job at a shoe store because of the constant, baying media pack outside.
Need to hold back and let some hulking, doped-up cop-fighter give you a brain injury to be "praised for your restraint" in this town, where the "Sanctity Of Criminal Life" has now been codified.
This is real simple. We are getting the message.
Surprised?
10/16/2016 02:57:00 AM
Well some of us are getting the message. We still have some tactical warrior hold outs that are only going to get the message after they've been fired and brought up on criminal charges.
Those numbers would had even made Reagan shake his head and say "eh, mothafuckin sheeeeet mane"
Fran Spielberg writes at the behest of the murder mayor....
Nothing Rahm says ever turns out anywhere near how Rahm touted it.
OH fran...he is a political HACk.
Drive by journalism using google and press releases as sources . Funny thing is these hack actually went to 4 year colleges and majored in dead tree media.
Even the so called shooting tracker is laughable out done by a northside BLOG.
Read the articles about shooting they look like case report from the 003 district.
Did you also know that the Chicago Police Department also excludes you from being hired if you admit to smoking marijuana in the last three years. Where do they come up with the three years? The Department is so behind the times and probably turning away hundreds of good people just because they tried something that should be legal and now is only a traffic ticket in Chicago.
Maybe she'd like to report on how the aldermen are threatening to fuck with our contract if we don't vote for Hillary.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161015/north-center/fop-endorse-trump
Do you really think your retiree health care won't be reformed into nothing? You are not political allies like the teachers union.
Observer from another state.
You see with any media that feeds pure bullshit to the masses in order to try to maintain a sliver of legitimacy the truth has to be published and that is only on rare occasion which is the case here. Don't fret for one moment that you will read the truth again because that's not going to happen. They will without fail revert to printing complete bullshit tomorrow and the next day and so on. Just read Fran's bullshit tomorrow and you'll see. It's kind of like someone suffering from temporary insanity only in this case its the media printing temporary truth.
Who woke Fran up?
Granny Kirkpatrick says in the article that starting next year we will begin graduating 100 recruits per month? How the hell we going to do that? We reducing the 6 month academy training to 30 days?
anyone have an estimate how much the city will pick up after the 55 and out is gone?
When I was a little boy in a Catholic grammar school the nun told us to "Avoid dishonest people, they are not worth your consideration" Hear that Rahm? Eddie?"
OT - Received a postcard notification today to renew my license plates. So, I guess Illinois has money for that again.
10/16/2016 12:43:00 AM
The Secretary of State Office got a lot of flak for failure to notify and raking in big money on fines.
Probably what happened is that they contracted the reminder notices out to a "well qualified" contractor.
I'm done in Nov... :)
Rahm is a lying weasel and a phony and the article doesn't address the real issue. Rahm has no business experience, no MBA, he's no CPA and probably didn't even take Pre Accounting 100. Absolutely no financial background, just a Democrat insider known to fleece the public.
The media gives Rahm too much credit without fact checking. The media praises Rahm & Daley without any regard for the horrendous financial mess this City has ever known.
Rahm learned to cheat the very people that voted for him from the best lying manipulators in the world...The Clintons.
He was mentioned in a Hillary email from Podesta via WikiLeaks. Clinton mentions she met with Rahm (your mayor) and he also agrees on her vision for a changed America.
I really hope Illinois wakes up. Or at least Write-In Bernie Sanders.
It's a long shot to get Illinois to go Republican. Surprisingly, Rauner made it.
Let's hope downstate will deliver the votes. She cannot be allowed to win Illinois or the WH.
Don't worry with all the illegals getting new City ID'S there will be plenty of applicants Some be even be ISIS,and then there the criminals that need a second chance
How about these traffic missions at VRI now. What's worse, them trying to make you do activity, or the idiots out there doing the shit for them.
We were told they wanted the blue traffic cards. Call me nutty but doesn't that fall under the whole race gathering statistics that the contact cards collected, one of the very reasons the ACLU and DOJ is up our ass for excessive harassment of the black man?
To all you cops announcing retirement plans, good luck and god bless each and everyone of you. If you have to stay in IL or close by for family reasons, Wisconsin or Indiana is not that far and I recommend the LaPorte County or Sount Bend areas but Newton and Jasper counties are great, quiet, more bang for your buck areas. You will be so happy you put this fucking state and city in the review mirror. We citizens will envy you but don't you worry, our day will be coming too.
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
Once upon a time, this type of job was the best job in the world. Now, it's the most despicable job ever. To all you new pups on the job, it sucks to be you coming in a time like this but keep getting those numbers for the powers to be, I promise on my momma that the powers to be got you're back all the way. As for me and the rest of my old brothers and sisters, we are not doing a fuckin thing till retirement, 4 more years of this shit and this job and city can shove it down their ass, especially the politicians. One more thing, since their is going to be a mass exodus of PO's retiring young at only 20 yrs. the fucking politicians better get that pension shit figured out because there will be.......well let me put it this way.......a whole lot of pissed off ex-policemen and damned good movie except for the ending (LAW ABIDING CITIZEN)....
The number does not include those like myself who are not 55 yet but have at least 20 years and will leave in 2017. Counting the days and can't wait until that day arrives.
Im outta here, grabbing the 55 and out with both hands and glad to do it cause were never going to see it in a contract again. Why offer free insurance when the job is so shitty guys will be stampeding out anyway insurance or not?
OT -- Hey, look! Look at Pat and Richie! They're selling Chicago to the Chinese!
Daley aiming for $15 million green-card bonanza
"Former Mayor Richard M. Daley and his son are aiming to cash in on a federal program that offers green cards to wealthy foreigners with a deal that could bring their company $15 million, records obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times show.
"Tur Partners — which Daley formed with his son Patrick Daley after leaving office — is seeking permission from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to solicit $150 million from foreign investors to help finance construction of a downtown skyscraper through a controversial visa program known as EB-5.
"The Daleys hope to land as many as 300 foreign investors, most likely from China, according to the application Patrick Daley submitted to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on Sept. 22, 2015. Each would put up $500,000 for the skyscraper project and also pay a $50,000 administrative fee that would bring the Daleys’ company $15 million, the application shows.
"In return, the foreigners would be eligible to be granted visas allowing them and their immediate families to move to the United States and live here forever.
"The Daleys would then lend the money put up by the foreigners to Magellan Development Group, a Chicago company that’s building Vista Tower, which would be the city’s third-tallest skyscraper, on Wacker Drive near Lake Shore Drive. Magellan also has plans for another tower nearby..."
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/richard-daley-aiming-for-15-million-green-card-bonanza-eb5-visas-watchdogs/
Detectives class is gonna be in january
one plus one is two
two plus two is four
four plus four is more.....duh
The only way he will hire is when people retire, he saves on new salaries and mark my words the days of insurance freebie till medicare are gonna go bye bye.
He doesn't care about total manpower they'll spin it to convince the dumb.
Wow Fran your senior brain is finally working! You should talk to CPD own poseur granny clampett from Seattle who is wearing our uniform obviously for halloween she is not the police just an old woman thinking she is smart, she is with the Beverly hillbillies theme thinking she is smart Ala Jethro Bodine on the hillbillies. We are short, rahm is just like the 3 card monte guy on the train, just shuffles the chairs just like eddie has done with his own "gold star" club, never removed did nothing before and will never do anything but yet they are kept! Murder and maiming is up significantly in chiraq lets start over from the office of the president "Go Trump" all the way down to me and you!
Hard to believe that anyone would doubt the word of a politician.
Excuse me while I go and figure out which insurance plan is going to screw up my financial future the least.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Per the Lieutenant's contract, Lieutenants will be able to apply for the 55 and out healthcare benefit, provided that they apply between May 1 - December 31 of this year. They have to provide a 30 day notice prior to leaving.
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
Info found on page 81 of the Lieutenant's contract.
10/16/2016 05:20:00 AM
Hit the button already lieutenants so we can better figure shit out. Why are you waiting deputy chief Cathy B.
Anonymous said...
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
10/16/2016 12:19:00 PM
*****
Copper kids are some the worst punks around in 08..LOL.. kids think their crap is gold, privledged .... worse for some of the gold star kids..*** 'bout time
Rushing people thru the academy will lead to mistakes. Like the felon who changed his name to get a carry conceal permit. Now the job will be loaded with gang members. I mean more then there are already.
These are numbers are clearly incorrect. So in reality her investigation sucks and she is probably doing rham a favor by giving us old numbers. The number is more like 1000 retirees before June 2017. Come on guys, you're smarter than that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
10/16/2016 12:19:00 PM
Name them initials I will personally "have a conference!" Oh btw if during the "conference" it turns out your angel was a jagoff, or because your wife/husband blew through the stop signs and acted like an asshole will let you know also!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
10/16/2016 12:19:00 PM
Guess what, some of these people need an ear chewing. Driving like maniacs with FOP decals.
Thanks for playing Fran, the department has been in free fall for awhile, now we have the granny clown pulling a huge check, they ran her sorry ass from Seattle now we are stuck with her,oh Fran her recently hired girlfriend could you "explore" this travesty hire? The department is top heavy, Eddie came in the same old losers holding gold stars he put them in the "spin cycle" dropping none and just re-positioned the same non-performers but some even got a bigger paycheck and a huge undeserved pension double dip. Back to the pensions again men and women why has fire stopped the draining "gold braid bill" allowing pension to be highest civil service rank which is like CPD the rank of lieutenant and below gets that pension rate why kenny hauser let them keep taking is there a "Chicago style back door deal" to ruin the fund? As a matter of fact the 60 million given to dv urban realty davis vanecko daleys nephews and lost on failed real estate ventures who approved this? 60 million would of really helped pay the health care costs burdening retirees while you at the pension top are extremely fat and happy allowing us to be ripped off! The proper people have been contacted personally cannot wait to hear about this investigation after all its "our money!"
Here is a new twist -
Get RID of ALL of CPD and bring in cheap foreign workers - H-1B Visa workers - to be the police, just like they have done for Engineers, Information Technology workers, software developers and other skilled positions.
This will save the city Millions of dollars now and tens, if not hundreds, of millions later when no pensions have to be paid out.
Privatize the police. No more "merit promotions", clueless hacks with clout, and all the other losers in command staff positions.
Get police from India, Singapore, Ireland, and anywhere else. This will save Billions in the long-run.
Carve out another segment of the middle-class. Why not? It's happened already at many companies in Illinois - as well as nationwide.
Can't happen? Don't think you're so special - you can be replaced.
This could be the next Master Plan for the city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
10/16/2016 12:19:00 PM
Live on bt 1621 and copper kids are by far the worse, especially those that manage to get their hands on a medallion. I got 16-17 yo kids blowing stop signs at 30-35 mph on residential streets, where my 8 and 10 yo's ride their bikes. Puts me in a bind when the neighbors ask me. Do yourself a favor and have a talk with your family and friends before they kill someone. Lets face it, some of our kids are assholes that need a ticket or two to straighten their asses out. If you can't recognize that, then you're part of the problem.
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
Hmm let me guess your kids are angels and you are the only one that doesn't see that they aren't. Maybe you should teach your family how to drive and how to act. Good job in 008 keep stopping people it's appreciated.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about these traffic missions at VRI now. What's worse, them trying to make you do activity, or the idiots out there doing the shit for them.
We were told they wanted the blue traffic cards. Call me nutty but doesn't that fall under the whole race gathering statistics that the contact cards collected, one of the very reasons the ACLU and DOJ is up our ass for excessive harassment of the black man?
10/16/2016 11:45:00 AM
Yup sure does. But the bosses only verbalize their quota/activity threats. They never put it in writing so they can deny saying it. They know they will never be on the hook. Their names are never on it. As long as you are smart enough to know this you are safe. Remember when troubles finds you, you will be alone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
10/16/2016 12:19:00 PM
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Hey asshat, FYI I live in 811 and cops, their wives, and their kids drive around like a bunch of assholes 24/7. They don't even touch the brakes at stop signs. So I'm glad they are getting stopped. I'm the police, I live in 811, and I guess what - I obey traffic laws. Because I have kids and I drive like it could be anyone's kid that pops out to chase a ball. (You see, I'm also not such a super cop like yourself that I can't say that my kids occasionally screw up - that doesn't mean I want them getting creamed by one of you idiots or your idiot wives in your Hawks jersey on your way to Lawlor's).
Also, the 811 cars have no business in "west englewood" on the east end of 8. Because when the cars that should be patrolling my blocks are so thirsty to try to get their name and some credit on a BS gun job - a gun that was going to be used by one shithead to kill another shithead - everyone in 811 is getting their cat converters and everything else stolen. Power tools, cars, you name it - stuff we have to work hard for. Yeah, real good advice - take the cars away from the tax paying neighborhoods and put them on the east end to round up hood rats that have never paid a dime toward our salaries.
Stop being such a whiner and tell your kids that their dad being a cop doesn't mean it's ok for them to act the fool, and tell your wives to stop driving like it's the zombie apocalypse - home run inn and Portillo's aren't going anywhere.
To the cops allegedly doing police work in 811 - thank you and keep it up.
Granny, I was in the service with a senior member of your old department. All the supervisors laughed and you and your special friend behind your backs. He said they had a great going away party for you after your ensconced here.
Time to leave, you'll never have respect here
Granny Kirkpatrick says in the article that starting next year we will begin graduating 100 recruits per month?
How the hell we going to do that?
We reducing the 6 month academy training to 30 days?
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uhhhh..
Maybe by PUTTING IN 100 recruits a month?
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
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WRONG
Lieutenants only had the free 55 deal until a few days ago.
NOW they pay 2%.
The Sergeants had the free 55 deal up to 26 May 2016.. NOW they pay 2%.
The Captains "Free 55" deal will expire before the end of the year and they also will pay 2%.
Supervisors can only retire between 1 May and 31 December to get the "55 deal" unlike FOP members who can go anytime of the year but MUST notify the city by 1 October of the previous year.
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators.
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Maybe your wife and kids should obey the rules of the road and respect the law instead of boasting that their husbands, boyfriends, daddys, mommas and baby daddy's are the Police! This sense of entitlement must stop. Oh wait, that would make too much sense.
nymous said...
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
So how is 811/812 supposed to go fuck with Englewood West when their beats are way out west? Tell the whole story tuff guy. Maybe your kid is a jerkoff. More than a few cops kids out there are gangbangers .
"Well some of us are getting the message. We still have some tactical warrior hold outs that are only going to get the message after they've been fired and brought up on criminal charges."
10/16/2016 05:40:00 AM
You know, back when I worked in manufacturing, I had a boss who taught hard lessons like this. Motherf__er used the word "innovating" as though it were a pejorative. Within a few months, I had formulated my own policy. "You will never hear a good idea from me again. No more work in my own shop on my own time at night, bringing in parts and drawings for you to see, lending you equipment to try out, the next day. No more hanging around for two hours off the clock, discussing, throwing concepts around, experimenting. 5 PM straight up and I am gone -- and if I glance sideways on the way out and see an important switch or valve left the wrong way, I didn't see it."
Emergency procedure? Sauve que peut -- save yourself! Shoot off a fire extinguisher and the bastard would have been all bent out of shape about having to pay to recharge it. Don't run, walk rapidly, but don't stop for anything. Arms windmilling! "Company records burning up!" Long may it wave, guy.
You can take the best of people and beat their heads down between their shoulders until they hate you.
It's one thing when some petty-a__ fool is just hurting his own bottom line, but entirely another when the safety and well-being of society are being compromised.
But...the city you see is the city they want. That includes the needle-bristling parks and the tent cities of destitute people with flesh-eating diseases and the coppers laying in the hospital instead of the crazed "leaf"-smokers who attacked them.
So somebody prove me wrong. Please.
God bless and stay safe.
Rahm is my hero. Said no one ever.
How about these traffic missions at VRI now. What's worse, them trying to make you do activity, or the idiots out there doing the shit for them.
We were told they wanted the blue traffic cards. Call me nutty but doesn't that fall under the whole race gathering statistics that the contact cards collected, one of the very reasons the ACLU and DOJ is up our ass for excessive harassment of the black man?
Just make everyone you stop "white". Englewood...white. Pilsen...white. Chinatown...white. It's what your initial observation is. "He looked white to me.".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did you also know that the Chicago Police Department also excludes you from being hired if you admit to smoking marijuana in the last three years. Where do they come up with the three years? The Department is so behind the times and probably turning away hundreds of good people just because they tried something that should be legal and now is only a traffic ticket in Chicago.
Thanks for checking in, Spicoli.
Once again the 008th district's real police are stopping coppers kids and pulling over coppers spouses on beats 811 and 812. Good job hero's. Not only do you stop them but you speak to them like their shitheads from the street. The time will come when a family member of yours gets pulled over and talked to like shit or your kid gets put on the floor face down of a restaurant, spoken to like garbage and searched while you let the gangbangers who were the ass holes go. Afraid to deal with gangbangers? Let's please your asshat W/C and write up cops kids you f**king idiots when the entire east end (Englewood west) is going up for grabs. Real investigators
10/16/2016 12:19:00 PM
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Sorry but I have zero sympathy for you. I left 008 about 6 or 7 years ago. Working the west end you will find that the coppers kids and the coppers themselves sre the biggest problem out there. The kids think they can do whatever because daddy is the police. Then they go home and tell daddy a tale about how they were an angel and the hater cop harrassed them for nothing. Sorry dude, tell your kids to stop acting like jago&&$. Let's not forget coppers wives, most of them usually will talk to the copper like they are a cop themselves and it's a huge inconvenience and annoyance that they are getting stopped for breaking the rules. Remember guys, school your family in respect. I tell my wife and kids to apologize, say yes and no sir and to treat coppers with absolute respect no matter what. They can mention I'm the police but they better be respectful to the copper. My family know, tell your family the same. I got so sick and tired of cocky cops kids and wives that if they just continued to be rude and disrespectful while dealing with them after I was being respectful towards them I would go about my business of writing them or locking them up. Then I would give the wife or kid my phone number to give to their relative copper so I can explain to him why I ended up doing what I did. Some people just don't want a break.... I will say though that when actually giving my number and explains how much of an ass the family member acted 90 percent of the coppers would be thouroughly embarrassed and apologized and the pending ticket/case would be dealt with in a favorable manner to the police officer at the pending court date.
Per the Lieutenant's contract, Lieutenants will be able to apply for the 55 and out healthcare benefit, provided that they apply between May 1 - December 31 of this year. They have to provide a 30 day notice prior to leaving.
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
Info found on page 81 of the Lieutenant's contract.
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Yet you still have morons on this job who will stay because they have nothing else and strive for that gold star. Listen people, if u can get out of this job alive then leave. Every day out of this job is precious and you never know when life can take a turn for the worse. It could be two weeks into retirement or 20 years in.. enjoy anytime u get off this job
To all you cops announcing retirement plans, good luck and god bless each and everyone of you. If you have to stay in IL or close by for family reasons, Wisconsin or Indiana is not that far and I recommend the LaPorte County or Sount Bend areas but Newton and Jasper counties are great, quiet, more bang for your buck areas. You will be so happy you put this fucking state and city in the review mirror. We citizens will envy you but don't you worry, our day will be coming too.
10/16/2016 12:17:00 PM
Thanks for the tips, but South Carolina and their Republicans are calling me.
Jimmy S omg please retire for god sakes
L. A. is more than twice the size of Chicago and has more people. So why does Chicago have a larger police force than the LAPD?
To Anonymous. You don't have to teach your kids to say "no sir" to a cop. They aren't in the military. Yes or no will suffice.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thanks for playing Fran, the department has been in free fall for awhile, now we have the granny clown pulling a huge check, they ran her sorry ass from Seattle now we are stuck with her,oh Fran her recently hired girlfriend could you "explore" this travesty hire? The department is top heavy, Eddie came in the same old losers holding gold stars he put them in the "spin cycle" dropping none and just re-positioned the same non-performers but some even got a bigger paycheck and a huge undeserved pension double dip. Back to the pensions again men and women why has fire stopped the draining "gold braid bill" allowing pension to be highest civil service rank which is like CPD the rank of lieutenant and below gets that pension rate why kenny hauser let them keep taking is there a "Chicago style back door deal" to ruin the fund? As a matter of fact the 60 million given to dv urban realty davis vanecko daleys nephews and lost on failed real estate ventures who approved this? 60 million would of really helped pay the health care costs burdening retirees while you at the pension top are extremely fat and happy allowing us to be ripped off! The proper people have been contacted personally cannot wait to hear about this investigation after all its "our money!"
10/16/2016 05:45:00 PM
These jagoffs got even more money while they almost destroyed College Illinois funds. Amazing that none of these asshole were found in a trunk.
Troll: I am amused by the cop complaining about 811 and 812 hasseling the kids and wives of cops in those beats and those telling the other side of the story. Makes me glad I am a citizen, less complicated. We just pay the ticket and try to lighten up on the speed next time. I never got a ticket I did not deserve so I just pay it and shut the fuck up.
But the big thing is I never want to be dragging some kid or other person under my car because I was driving like a jagg off because my son is the police.
missions at VRI now. What's worse, them trying to make you do activity, or the idiots out there doing the shit for them.
We were told they wanted the blue traffic cards. Call me nutty but doesn't that fall under the whole race gathering statistics that the contact cards collected, one of the very reasons the ACLU and DOJ is up our ass for excessive harassment of the black man?
Easy solution. Don't work VRI. Your problem is solved.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Per the Lieutenant's contract, Lieutenants will be able to apply for the 55 and out healthcare benefit, provided that they apply between May 1 - December 31 of this year. They have to provide a 30 day notice prior to leaving.
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
Info found on page 81 of the Lieutenant's contract.
Why do the PO's have only till October 1st.
Shouldn't we be allowed till Dec. 31 also ?
Anonymous said...
L. A. is more than twice the size of Chicago and has more people. So why does Chicago have a larger police force than the LAPD?
10/17/2016 12:27:00 AM
Well, sir, that is correct. LAPD used to be around 7,000 and has grown to around 9,000. But the difference is the sheriff's department operates freely within the city limits, and it is a huge department, It is not like the corrupt political useless Cook County department. I can only imagine what would happen in this county if Dart was allowed to operate freely within the city. Just imagine those " courtroom deputies" or the deputies working warrants actually out doing police work? OMG.
The academic community is beside it self with the recent document dump of the police department of citizens complaints going back to 1967. They can't wait to study the information and write their academic papers so they can keep their jobs at the universities and give the public their professional opinions on what is right and wrong about police work. That is having never set foot inside a beat car. I sure wish these ivory tower misfits would study the merit promotion system of Chicago. Go back to its inception. What did these merit picks actually do to get promoted? How many merit promotions did each individual get? How high did these merit picks actually advance in the department? What became of them after they left the department? Then, do a similar comparison to those who were promoted off of the list in rank order. And, what % over the years of the department brass were merit picks? And, if possible, the political connections of the merit picks. Boy, would that make interesting reading.
When your kid , spouse say yeah , nope , huh and doesn't say yes Sir , No Sir , yes Mam , No Mam , sorry sir ,
He,she will receive a ticket
Teach your kids, spouse how to talk to the Police .
L. A. is more than twice the size of Chicago and has more people. So why does Chicago have a larger police force than the LAPD?
The City of LA is policed by the LAPD, LA County Sheriff, LA School District Police, LA Aviation Police and LA Transit Police. Add them all up and they are a lot more than Chicago has. Chicago is police ONLY by the CPD.
NYC even has the Port Authority Police backing it up, and that dept. has about 2500 people.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
L. A. is more than twice the size of Chicago and has more people. So why does Chicago have a larger police force than the LAPD?
10/17/2016 12:27:00 AM
Beacause Chicago has so many "special officers" that need to be hidden inside shuffling paper and occasionally getting into a squad car and going to Starbucks to get a latte. Doesn't leave too many to work the streets.
Figures don't Lie, but Liars Figure.
You don't need a scientific calculator to figure out 1000 new officers is physically impossible. Seems that there are no reporters or special investigative reporters in this city with the common sense God gave wild geese. Silly me, Chicago reporter and common sense is an oxymoron.
Just checked with First Labor, its for Medicare only retirees. If your wife is non medicare you have to go to Ullico. Called Ullico they have NO special RATES for FOP members, its just an exchange. Welcome to Obamacare non medicare retirees
Anonymous said...
L. A. is more than twice the size of Chicago and has more people. So why does Chicago have a larger police force than the LAPD?
10/17/2016 12:27:00 AM
Because there are three different police departments covering Los Angeles; it's not just LAPD.
anyone know how many actual detectives put in for retirement out of the 274 retirees for 2017?
Anonymous said...
The number does not include those like myself who are not 55 yet but have at least 20 years and will leave in 2017. Counting the days and can't wait until that day arrives.
10/16/2016 12:48:00 PM
It also does NOT include those over 55 who will have 20 but don't need the insurance and therefore can leave anytime they want. Really anyone over 50 that has 20+ on can leave whenever they feel like it and only give a days notice!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Per the Lieutenant's contract, Lieutenants will be able to apply for the 55 and out healthcare benefit, provided that they apply between May 1 - December 31 of this year. They have to provide a 30 day notice prior to leaving.
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
Info found on page 81 of the Lieutenant's contract.
Why do the PO's have only till October 1st.
Shouldn't we be allowed till Dec. 31 also ?
10/17/2016 07:22:00 AM
News from the hall, take this to the bank next contract 55 and out will be gone, 60 and out is possibly gone also don't believe it you gamble you lose!
Where has Fran and the rest of the Media in Chicago been hiding?
This has been going on for past 5 years and NOW they look at numbers.
Every member of this Department has seen the numbers reducing and the
moving of manpower from one unit to another just to fill cars.
Sorry state of affairs.
Who was the leader of this Departments during these years and you will see
that the leaders were downsizing department until the $hit hit the fan
Since my comment was not posted... Let me try again...
All you ass hats assume the coppers kids or wives were assholes... I was treated like ass by RG who was working 811 that day (and so you know I was not pulled over and had not broken any law)... And I was more then respectful to that ass hat and he talked to me as if I was some shithead who just robbed his mom...
Cops can't even talk to each other with respect... What the fuck makes you think they will treat your family any different then they treat you?
I walk into another station wearing full uniform on duty and the coppers look at you like you have three fucking heads...
BTW eat a dick RG
missions at VRI now. What's worse, them trying to make you do activity, or the idiots out there doing the shit for them.
We were told they wanted the blue traffic cards. Call me nutty but doesn't that fall under the whole race gathering statistics that the contact cards collected, one of the very reasons the ACLU and DOJ is up our ass for excessive harassment of the black man?
Easy solution. Don't work VRI. Your problem is solved.
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You can't find a single car that didn't use a turn signal, one headlight or failed to stop at a stop sign??? Don't forget you are still a police officer. Yes, you have an actual job that hundreds of thousands of other police officers do every single day but not in Chicago. In Chicago we think that we are not police officers and are exempt of doing work that other cops in the country do every day. So you sir, are a complete moron. You clear about 360 dollars per tour at VRI, you can't muster up one single traffic stop?? They aren't even making you write tickets, just fill out a stupid card. It's the same card the suburbs fill out when they pull you over on your way home from work and you bark at them to give you a play because you are the real police.. yeah right the "real police" who can't even stop a car because they are too lazy but of course just blame it on the DOJ and ACLU or some crap like that. If someone legit has a light out stop them, tell them about it and let them go without a ticket, trust me they will appreciate not getting a ticket. What a terrified lazy little dog you are.
The free health insurance if you retire at age 55 is coming to an end. If you retire after those specific dates (according to rank) you must pay 2 percent of your annuity for health insurance.
Now, here is what I am wondering. I know there will be negotiations for a new contract coming up. What is the union aiming for? Will they go back to the old way of retiring at age 60 to get free health insurance? Or will there be absolutely no health insurance available for anyone who retires ever again?
It just seems extremely unfair to offer free or low cost health insurance for the next upcoming years of retirees under the next contract, but that all current retirees are having their health insurance cancelled beginning January 1, 2017.
It just doesn't make any sense. The people that are currently retired are the ones that put in 30 or 40 plus years and retired with low annuities. Today's cops retire after 20 years with a much higher annuity.
It just sucks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Per the Lieutenant's contract, Lieutenants will be able to apply for the 55 and out healthcare benefit, provided that they apply between May 1 - December 31 of this year. They have to provide a 30 day notice prior to leaving.
That mean Lieutenant have until December 1st of 2016 to hit the button the free insurance. After that they will be paying the 2%.
Info found on page 81 of the Lieutenant's contract.
Wrong the lieutenant's contract was 2% for insurance at 55. The arbitrator ruled that the insurance would be free for 30 months after ratification which was 06 Oct 2016. Lieutenants who retire after 06 Oct 2016 are paying the 2%.
You can't find a single car that didn't use a turn signal, one headlight or failed to stop at a stop sign??? Don't forget you are still a police officer. Yes, you have an actual job that hundreds of thousands of other police officers do every single day but not in Chicago. In Chicago we think that we are not police officers and are exempt of doing work that other cops in the country do every day. So you sir, are a complete moron. You clear about 360 dollars per tour at VRI, you can't muster up one single traffic stop?? They aren't even making you write tickets, just fill out a stupid card. It's the same card the suburbs fill out when they pull you over on your way home from work and you bark at them to give you a play because you are the real police.. yeah right the "real police" who can't even stop a car because they are too lazy but of course just blame it on the DOJ and ACLU or some crap like that. If someone legit has a light out stop them, tell them about it and let them go without a ticket, trust me they will appreciate not getting a ticket. What a terrified lazy little dog you are.
10/17/2016 03:32:00 PM
Ok super cop, your probably one of the hand jobs that worked Labor Day weekend. Get some time on kid, until then shut your trap company bitch.
rahmmie best raise the mandatory retirement age to 67
a lot of the dinosaurs on days will hang in , we do our job , show up on time and create very few problems .
think about it rahmmie , don't get your tutu in a knot
Fran and the City accountants/ administrators must have failed math in grade school. Oh! this is City of Chicago Math where things do not add up
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Once upon a time, this type of job was the best job in the world. Now, it's the most despicable job ever. To all you new pups on the job, it sucks to be you coming in a time like this but keep getting those numbers for the powers to be, I promise on my momma that the powers to be got you're back all the way. As for me and the rest of my old brothers and sisters, we are not doing a fuckin thing till retirement, 4 more years of this shit and this job and city can shove it down their ass, especially the politicians. One more thing, since their is going to be a mass exodus of PO's retiring young at only 20 yrs. the fucking politicians better get that pension shit figured out because there will be.......well let me put it this way.......a whole lot of pissed off ex-policemen and damned good movie except for the ending (LAW ABIDING CITIZEN)....
Keep your kid in line so the police dont have too! Another case of not my kid! Same people complain that the police are not there when someone else's kid is the problem!
with the rising cost of health insurance if the 55 and free isn't renewed no one will leave until 60 for the free health
if city raises mandatory retirement age to 65 or 66 , many old timers will hang in , work vri and save money
wtf if you work days , use all your vdays , bfd , pdays , split furlo , work most holidays for 1 1/2 you will have another 6 days off using comp time
no medical roll abuse , maybe 5 to 10 days a year , you are only working about 8 months a year , good for the marriage
full pay is better than 75% pay
Fran is a POS like her husband. Both anti-cop and opportunists!!! Typical!!!
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