Hey Pawar, Go Fuck Yourself
- Ald. Ameya Pawar (47th) lashed out at the local police union Saturday over its endorsement of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.
"Sometimes when people don't feel supported, there is a knee-jerk tendency to run to the loudest and most ignorant voice," said Pawar. "The [Fraternal Order of Police] is doing just that with their endorsement of Donald Trump."
The National Fraternal Order of Police backed Trump last month, calling him a law-and-order candidate who will "make America safe again." The local Fraternal Order of Police lodge more recently and more quietly backed that endorsement by posting it on its website.
Did everyone get that? The NATIONAL LODGE endorsed Trump. This after surveying all of their chapters and coming up with a tally on whom to endorse. The LOCAL FOP did NOT endorse a national candidate (as far as we know, they never have) and merely posted what the NATIONAL LODGE had decided.
Given the tenor of recent endorsements by the LOCAL LODGE, we wouldn't be surprised if they actually voted for Hillary, seeing as how they consistently have endorsed Chicago Machine candidates and countless other democrats. But they are only one vote.
And get this - the NATIONAL LODGE sent out a survey to the two candidates for them to fill out and return, asking for their positions on issues important to the police. Usually a flunky fills out the answers and the NATIONAL LODGE makes its endorsement based on the answers that best reflect the concerns of.....police officers!
Guess who didn't even bother to fill out the survey? Or even have a flunky do it?
So the LOCAL LODGE continued endorsing Chicago Machine democrats locally and reported to its members exactly what the NATIONAL LODGE had chosen to do based on the response AND NON RESPONSE of the candidates. Amazing how that works.
Given the tenor of recent endorsements by the LOCAL LODGE, we wouldn't be surprised if they actually voted for Hillary, seeing as how they consistently have endorsed Chicago Machine candidates and countless other democrats. But they are only one vote.
And get this - the NATIONAL LODGE sent out a survey to the two candidates for them to fill out and return, asking for their positions on issues important to the police. Usually a flunky fills out the answers and the NATIONAL LODGE makes its endorsement based on the answers that best reflect the concerns of.....police officers!
Guess who didn't even bother to fill out the survey? Or even have a flunky do it?
So the LOCAL LODGE continued endorsing Chicago Machine democrats locally and reported to its members exactly what the NATIONAL LODGE had chosen to do based on the response AND NON RESPONSE of the candidates. Amazing how that works.
That wasn't good enough for alder-asshole Pawar though:
- Pawar said Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the City Council had already shown their support for police, and Emanuel has called openly for community support as well.
"You know what support looks like?" Pawar said. "Take one look at what Chicagoans just did. We passed the largest property-tax increase in city history to secure police pensions. In the 2017 budget, we are hiring over 1,000 new police officers. Why? We did this to support the people who support us.
Um, no. You and the other 49 thieves did this to right an historical wrong. You see, for years, the city refused to acknowledge the actuarial tables presented to them by various pension boards that pointed out (correctly) that the multiplier used by the city to determine pension contributions was low - lower than was possible to maintain the solvency of pensions systems.
But successive mayors and alder-thieves ignored these warnings and instead, spent the money in an orgy of financial misconduct unseen in recorded history. Many connected families, firms and individuals got rich while the pensions withered. So spare us your "we did this...to support." You're full of shit.
Oh yeah, and the governor signed a law that said if the city didn't make the proper contributions, their share would come out of other state money that democrats wanted to spend on all sorts of other crap.
Then the threats start (gotta rub the balls of the "revrunds," social justice warriors and urban terrorists!):
Why? Because they didn't endorse the "correct" candidate? This is still America asshole. We don't march people to the voting booths and hold a gun to their head so they "elect" the "correct" candidate. We're sure that there are many cops who are going to vote for Trump, others for Hillary, and each for their own reasons - usually naked self interest. You don't get to force cops to endorse your candidate.
Deano responded, but not nearly forcefully enough.
Fuck this asshole with his socialist leanings and Big Brother bullshit.
Hey asshole, you come from the most corrupt city council north of Orleans parish with an incarceration rate rivaling certain banana republics. A kleptocracy run by "public servants" who all end up millionaires inside of three terms. And you're going to bluster about an endorsement by a NATIONAL LODGE and hold it against a LOCAL entity merely attempting to keep up with your criminal misspending, crooked contracting, and massive tax increases?
Did you forget that cops are REQUIRED to live in the city? That your tax hikes are PAID BY US to save OUR pensions that you and your ilk mismanaged? So your "support" is actually shorting us (and out families) more money so that we don't have to eat cat food when we finally manage to retire?
Or does your narrow-minded, leftist, democrat, socialist, totalitarian thinking only go so far?
Fuck off.
But successive mayors and alder-thieves ignored these warnings and instead, spent the money in an orgy of financial misconduct unseen in recorded history. Many connected families, firms and individuals got rich while the pensions withered. So spare us your "we did this...to support." You're full of shit.
Oh yeah, and the governor signed a law that said if the city didn't make the proper contributions, their share would come out of other state money that democrats wanted to spend on all sorts of other crap.
Then the threats start (gotta rub the balls of the "revrunds," social justice warriors and urban terrorists!):
- He said the union's endorsement of Trump could have consequences in the City Council, starting with 2017 budget hearings beginning next week that will eventually embroil the Police Department.
"I think there will be a lot of questions during the budget hearings about culture and police-community relations in the wake of this endorsement," Pawar said. He also said it would attract scrutiny over the new police contract, expected to be reached in the coming year.
Why? Because they didn't endorse the "correct" candidate? This is still America asshole. We don't march people to the voting booths and hold a gun to their head so they "elect" the "correct" candidate. We're sure that there are many cops who are going to vote for Trump, others for Hillary, and each for their own reasons - usually naked self interest. You don't get to force cops to endorse your candidate.
Deano responded, but not nearly forcefully enough.
Fuck this asshole with his socialist leanings and Big Brother bullshit.
Hey asshole, you come from the most corrupt city council north of Orleans parish with an incarceration rate rivaling certain banana republics. A kleptocracy run by "public servants" who all end up millionaires inside of three terms. And you're going to bluster about an endorsement by a NATIONAL LODGE and hold it against a LOCAL entity merely attempting to keep up with your criminal misspending, crooked contracting, and massive tax increases?
Did you forget that cops are REQUIRED to live in the city? That your tax hikes are PAID BY US to save OUR pensions that you and your ilk mismanaged? So your "support" is actually shorting us (and out families) more money so that we don't have to eat cat food when we finally manage to retire?
Or does your narrow-minded, leftist, democrat, socialist, totalitarian thinking only go so far?
Fuck off.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
188 Comments:
Extremely well put as usual Scc! This idiot gets a huge pension and free health care for life plus over a hundred grand for a part time bullshit job! Just another uneducated punk with a lapdog media really aldergoof stfu! Go Trump all the way, alder goof what type of people contribute to your political piggy bank? Your really another pathetic example of why alderman need to be reduced by at least 3/4!
***Hey Alderasshole...FUCK YOU!
Well. Said.
Does anyone know if the city pays for retired aldermen health care ? The mayor having fucked the retirees on health care should do the same for the aldermen
"That wouldn't happen to be because the Il. Supreme Court forced the mayor to bring up funding would it"? The last two mayors Failed to Pay the correct amounts into the Pension Fund continually kicking the can down the road... or was it when a mayors nephew was allowed to use pension fund money that he lost, or could it possibly be because the mayor wrote 1,200 officers Out of the City Budget and refused to even keep up with the attrition rate... I always found it interesting that both mayors Always seemed to "Find" money when it was a pet project they wanted...
Excellent, SCC
You tube ...Hilary Clinton on Race and Police Brutality at Columbia University...Its a must see Vidio on how much She hates Us...
It is time.
Trump supporters are alla Deplorable and Irredeemable Rednecks.
Our Lords asnd Masters have spoken.
Damn. I really enjoyed reading that. Didn't know you had it in you SCC. Keep up the good work.
Pawar is and will always be a dipshit . Read his bio. He takes credit for all kinds of stuff by riding coattails. Another useless prick. I second the "go fuck yourself"
This can all be summed up by Chicago's very own.
"Bring Lawyers, Guns, and Money! The SHIT has hit the fan!"
-Zevon, Warren
His statements have to border on criminal or at least a civil rights violation. He is indirectly making threats and giving out warnings due to an endorsement? This is the U.S. and not Nazi Germany, correct?. How can an elected official warn of political backlash due to how a group votes? Something smells of dogshit in his ward office.
Fuck you scumbag lowlife alderweisel! You talk like you did us a favor with the pension we earned. This was a contractual agreement on our date of hire. We pay 9%(unlike teachers)into it every year as agreed upon. You fools borrowed and overspent beyond your means to appease various groups to get votes and stay in power. You did this! You are supposed to fix it. You fucked it up. We had nothing to do with the pension fund. And who says you fixed it? You? I've heard that before. We'll wait and see if you guys told the truth and where the tax money goes. Your not very believable.
SCC:
You are looking at the end.
My Friend.
This from a guy that ran as the anti-machine/ reform candidate. The first thing he did was hire his girlfriend as his chief of staff. Remember the photo of him and Deb Mell protesting with their BLM / Hands Up Don't Shoot posters?
SCC you have pretty well described democrats. they are vindictive when you dare to disagree with them. More and more they are coming to resemble the old communist party as it operated under Stalin, in the Soviet Union.
On one hand this guy says he supports the police but a minute later says that the upcoming police contract will be looked at closely now because of the Trump endorsement. So, him and the other politicians are gonna try and stick it to the police when contract negotiations start because the FOP endorsed the only pro police candidate. They'll use any reason they can think of to try and diminish our benefits at contract time. Not mentioned in the article is the fact that by chastising the FOP for endorsing Trump, that must mean this guy supports Clinton, the candidate who supports BLM who openly calls for cops to be murdered, let americans get butchered in Benghazi, lied to the FBI regarding classified emails sent and received over her private server, protects her pedophile husband, set up a scam charity in Canada so they could funnel money to themselves( there's a law in Canada that says you can't reveal foreign donors), and guess what? The money is tax free which means you and I are subsidizing it. The Clinton foundation. Google it. And this alderman supports this criminal. We are screwed.
To be honest, there's something about a guy who mocks the disabled, disses war heroes and belittles a Gold Star mom that makes me ill. Disappointed in FOP endorsement.
Liberal scumbag and political sponsor of Sgt Patel 010 1st Watch for Merit who continues to spout inaccurate knowledge of orders and to "study hard for promotional exams" just like he did!
Absolute joke.
Hire some lawyers and FIGHT RESIDENCY NOW. Do not negotiate for lifting residency contractually, meaning we give up something. Fight in the courts until a judge agrees that requiring employees to live in the City is unreasonable and unconstitutional. Hit these ignorant pandering clowns where it hurts.
We are the last city left with this outdated archaic law. If these politicians want to undercut us and throw us under the bus and pander to the lawless, then we have to collectively give them one giant middle finger.
Ii am a sworn police officer with 18 years who lives in this morons ward. He is a liar and the most cowardly rubber stamp for the mayor I have seen in a while. Guess what you dumb shit liberal asshat, I am organizing the taxpayers against you. He is a fucking liar, I think he should move in with the "community " in 7 0r 11. The 47th has had enough of this fuck. His chief of staff is a fat dumb piece of crap mouthpiece .
Ok. This is the same city(run by morally corrupted politicians) that setup the security at a Trump rally to fail so people would get hurt and make the Trump campaign look like savages.
I like the part where they say the next contract expected to be reached in the coming year. Really???
Our current contract runs through June..... and our next contract will be hammered out in the remainder of the year?
I guess since the city's stance will be to try and take away all our contractual rights ( to appease "the community") the simpletons figure the contract will be done in record time.
Even in much simpler times a contract has never been reached in less than 1.5 years.
This next contract negotiations will likely be the most contentious yet so don't expect a quick resolution to it. In fact I simply don't see how it doesn't wind up in the hands of an arbitrator. Rahm doesn't do give and take negotiations...... all Rahm knows is the take part.
I have several family members in his ward, related to CPD. I'll make sure they see the article where this pipsqueak threatened the police. I'm a conservative woman and this mutt doesn't speak for me. I fully support the fine men and women on the CPD and will be voting Republican up and down the ticket. I'm a city resident and appreciate the CPD far more than the assholes on the City Council.
"Hey asshole, you come from the most corrupt city council north of Orleans parish with an incarceration rate rivaling certain banana republics."
WOO HOO! There ya go, SCC.
Ray Nagin still locked up?
NOPD picked up the 1/3rd of its force that walked off or got nailed for looting?
New parish jail there, state-of-the-art -- old one torn down yet, skeletons of inmates left to drown in the dark still inside?
Superdome buffed up?
Saw pics of the hulk of Charity Hospital, to this day still open to the weather, $250,000 worth of ruined microscopes on a s__tty Ikea table, the particle board warped in a 40-degree arc from the wet. Who were those two who walked on about 35 murder charges for "euthanizing" patients?
I still remember printing out that weather forecast the day before and taking it with me to read out to a bunch of friends. Shoved it back in my pocket and said "There are a lot of folks down there who don't know that they're spending their last evening on this Earth."
Memories, memories...
Please tell me this qualifies for a class action lawsuit or at least an investigation into voting extortion.....
After reading the comments over there I don't understand why you guys ever get out of your cars. These people have their noses so far up Rahm's ass it's a wonder they can breathe. Sure we have dumped trillions on this group since the start of LBJ's "great" society and things have only gotten worse but that just means we aren't spending enough apparently.
It is time go into court to determine if residency is constitutional.
Amen.
SCC - Exceptional Post
Thank you for saying exactly what I was thinking, I could never have said it that well.
Citizen reader: Ok, lets settle down. She is an ignorant slob politician but she is a typical democrat who thinks dong what the government is required to do is like a benefit or entitlement. You know, funding pensions shows support for the police. No asshole, you as a steward of the public trust are required to fund the pensions. The fact that you do not is an example of malfeasence of the public trust and offical corruption as I view it. But in a city and state of democrats, do you think anyone who is obligated Lisa Madigan will consider charges or an injunction ordering funding? I think not too.
You are required to provide the security of the populace but you do not. Another example of malfeasence. So do not tell us about your stupid, ignorant and corrupt political opinions like the polic
Well said! I wish that you would run for office!
So SCC, let the readers know how you really feel. Please.
does anyone even care who endorses anyone?
Come next election cycle every cop sholud drop his opponent $10 just on principal.
Just another U of C liberal that knows what's best for people.
Remember those that can do, those that can't, teach or run for elected office.
And the media is criticizing Trump for saying that he would put Hillary in jail for her crimes when elected?
He's threatening us . We better vote the right way or else. Stalin couldn't have said it better. This is an example of why nobody should vote democrat. The more power that they get, the more oppressive that they become.
I don't tell you I love you enough SCC. Well-said.
FRIGGIN WELL SAID SCC....Phruq these Thieves and their ILKS.....
Well said, the alderman have been out of control since the founding of Chicago. I still want to know why we have 50 alderman in the first place, especially since Chicago's population has been decreasing.
Bravo scc, well said.
As I've always asked, how can democRats be the source AND solution to all of our problems?
It's not like Shrillary lost the FOP vote in a too close to call race. My understanding is that the State Lodges were given ballots with three choices; Trump, Clinton or No endorsement. 45 States voted Trump, 5 voted no endorsement.
Love or hate the Donald, who do you want filling 4 to 5 vacancies on the US Supreme Court over the next few years?
Mr. Paywar for your information the city is FUCKIN BROKE and the city has been run by democrats since 1931. So you and the party you so woefully love are at fault so go back to serving Slurpees or driving a cab. ♠️
SCC, I know it's a long shot, but clean up the language a bit and send it to the trib either as a letter to the editor or a a commentary piece.
Hey fuckface, the contact will be decided by a arbitrator so your empty threats mean nothing. Nice try assclown.
The 47rh ward used to be decent until this clown got in we need to take back oil government and get rid of at least half of the aldercreatures
Still got the picture hanging in my office of this twerp with Deb Mel holding signs don't shoot & cant breath. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else. SO alderman you took the SOROS money are you going after the Catholic Church as well? COMRADE????
even after paying all these never ending taxes and all the freebees,you would be surprised as to have many "city workers" still vote for the same fools..
Sounds like this thief is trying to intimidate republican voters. Piece of shit. Go talk to your fellow thieves about your next double digit raise you will vote for yourselves.
Anonymous said...
Liberal scumbag and political sponsor of Sgt Patel 010 1st Watch for Merit who continues to spout inaccurate knowledge of orders and to "study hard for promotional exams" just like he did!
Absolute joke.
10/17/2016 01:42:00 AM
Was he Sgt. H. Patel from 019? That dude is a tool. I did not know that Indians had political pull in this department. I thought only the Irish, Italians, Polish, Blacks, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans had political pull.
Get back on the boat
You need a "like" button for that last comment. FUCK OFF Alderman!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To be honest, there's something about a guy who mocks the disabled, disses war heroes and belittles a Gold Star mom that makes me ill. Disappointed in FOP endorsement.
10/17/2016 01:41:00 AM
Gold star family started the mocking themselves. Shame on them to use their sons death to further a political agenda.
SCC for FOP President!!
If this is support I'd hate to see what persecution is like. These assholes have given the keys to the streets to gangsters. It really makes you wonder where all those suitcases of money from drug dealing go.
Our mayor. They hide our march for our fallen to some back alley by the dolphins and He shows up in jeans and Loafers.
""We are the last city left with this outdated archaic law. If these politicians want to undercut us and throw us under the bus and pander to the lawless, then we have to collectively give them one giant middle finger.""
Good idea, Just wait until I sell to do it.
One of the best pieces I have read on SCC since becoming a reader ten years ago. Coming from Washington D.C. I do not understand the whole notion of aldermen(asshats)
and what they actually do besides lining their pockets and as of late, installing speed bumps in our alleys. If my wife were not required to live in the city we would be on on our own little piece of earth somewhere with less people and politics and schools where your kid could actually learn to read and write.
Rough transition here, but Pawar and most aldercreatures, eat a dick!
SCC, way to use kleptocracy. I needed to look that one up. Never know if I might make Jeopardy!
G_d Bless CPD.
Let's see: You can't have a Trump sign on the lawn, Headquarters in North Carolina firebombed,
certainly no endorsements, all Sunday "news" programs are pro-Hillary or people don't get asked back, "news" is slanted beyong belief.
Gotta love "freedom of speech!"
To the unpublished:
Go back and read what is posted on the FOP website at the bottom of the "Endorsements" section.
Then go up two lines and read where it says "The National Fraternal Order of Police Political Endorsement"
Which was the point of our entire post.
Pawar got his nose so far up Rahm's ass.. pawar's face turns brown... Any assholes thinks this democrat crap of censorship goes away .. May God have Mercy on your kids ..
Only Trump... no one else gets my vote...... Kirk is a phony Republican
OUCH!
Normally i would not vote for TRUMP. But since all the political leeches seem to have a great fear of him i will vote for him regardless.
At least the DEM's acknowledge who the FOP endorses.
The last few elections seem to have made LODGE 7 catatonic. The lodge has become irrelevant in elections due to the want to please everyone.
AND by the way the half of you not registered get your shit together already!
DEANO backs RAHM no we have not forgot professor.
Hey 1:41 AM and your bullshit about Trump mocking the disabled...
If you bothered to pay attention, Trump's gesture was one he's used dozens of times before and had nothing to do with disabled people. Associating what Trump did with a disability was a pure Clinton/media fabrication, and you bought it hook, line and sinker.
City Unions , pass out , mail out petitions to reduce alderman from 50 to 20 .
That would be more than New York City and Los Angelos .
SCC does it again! You put the local "news" media to shame! God help this country if Trump doesn't win. I already feel like I live behind enemy lines.
Send this info to Trump and Guiliani. Guiliani stated over the weekend that the votes in Chicago and Philly would be rigged. Wow, doesn't this diatribe by the alderman sound just like that? You're right SCC. There is free speech and a free voting process. That's exactly why everyone needs to vote for Trump, his petty faults be damned.
So the they want us to reduce crime but not stop anyone. They want us to pay more for our medical and not give us a raise. They want us to run to the bad guys but not to use force. They don't want us to pull our guns ever! They want us to live in the city so we can be subjected to all these crazy new taxes. They want us to be punching bags and keep our mouths shut. They want to blame us for ever new tax increase because of our greedy pensions. Now they don't want to allow us to have an opinion and when we make an endorsement they want to hold
It against us. Really? 21 years and can't wait to leave. Used to think I would do 30. Not a chance anymore.
Oh yeah asshole? There will be consequences for us? Where's my copy of the ILCS? Where's my copy of the municipal code? I left it around here somewhere. Oh, sir, can I sign out some new parker and mover and ANOV books? I think that I'm about to become non-fetal.
Pawar? ??
WHere is his Birth Certificate?
arrogant liberal fuck you you dirty prick, who the fuck are you to tell us who we can vote for
Pawar just hates us. Looking for any excuse.
Here is his "support"
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160711/downtown/blue-lives-matter-ordinance-not-going-anywhere-this-summer
CITY HALL — If it's going to be a long hot summer for police and protesters in the city, it doesn't appear as if the so-called Blue Lives Matter Ordinance is going to be part of it.
"I don't think the Blue Lives thing is moving this month," said Ald. Ameya Pawar (47th). "I hope not.".
Submitted by Ald. Edward Burke (14th) last month, the proposed ordinance would categorize offenses committed against police officers, firefighters and emergency medical technicians as hate crimes. Thus, it would offer law-enforcement officials the same protection against bias now extended to individuals on the basis of race, religion, color, ancestry and sexual orientation.
Just another example of the shallow pool of unqualified candidates chosen and elected by the democratic machine. You sir can't even provide the basic protection of life to the citizens you represent. The local tribal leaders in Iraq, Afganistan and Pakistan provide better protection to the people they represent. Think about that asshole. The worst part is that our citizens accept these killing fields while condemning the police. You sir are a true representative of the people.
I'm a Trump supporter - think he's just honest and right about the issues I care about
1) No more counter productive Neo Con wars in the Middle East
2) Promote a pro American foreign policy, military policy
3) Secure our borders, we secure the border of South and North Korea why not secure our borders?
4) End illegal immigration and massive hard drug smuggling
5) Keep out the worst Islamic terrorists - deport those already here.
6) Oppose lying political correctness
7) Reduce urban crime, implement time tested police strategies of NYC Rudy Guliani
8) Call a spade a spade. Chicago's horrible crime is done by criminals not Chicago's police.
I would like to do one last pro Trump demo ~ 15 people, I've got excellent banners and signs. Can anyone tell me how I can hire off duty or retired Chicago police for security. It wouldn't be announced in advance like the Trump rally at UIC that the Communists and BlackLiesMatter mobs broke up. I don't think we would be attacked, but you never know.
Can anyone tell me the best way to go about hiring Chicago police for security?
Jaye
Left Behind in Hyde Park
Hey Crooked Hilary you invited the Mothers of thugs killed by Police to the DNC,What about the Moms of Cops killed by thugs.
Yea, and a lot of city workers will still keep voting democratic.
47th ward? Lincoln and Irving? Don't they get hammered by burglaries and robberies and thefts? Would the people want a more pro law and order candidate? Who elected this clown?
Pawar is delusional
WCT: What do you think are the causes of, and the solutions for, crime in Chicago?
Ameya Pawar: One, we're a very segregated city; two, we have an incredible amount of illegal guns flowing into the city. You add those two together and it's a recipe for disaster. We can't get Congress to do anything on secondary markets, on illegal gun supply chains and purchases, or stronger background checks, so … you know, we're doing our absolute best and certainly hiring more officers is part of the equation. But you're not going to police your way out of it—we need to do something about affordable housing in the form of a strong affordable housing ordinance and we need more diverse communities.
WCT: What would you recommend to have a better relationship between police and the citizens they serve, including people of color and the transgender community?
Ameya Pawar: I think fundamentally it all comes down to all of us recognizing we're on the same side. And that acknowledging historical issues is important. Historical trauma is real, and so if you have a community that feels like it's been discriminated against or experienced mistreatment at the hands of the police, those things impact how communities of the future deal with the police department. At the end of the day, we're all on the same side, whether you're in the transgender community or live on the South or West Side, but sometimes it doesn't come across that way. We need to have more dialogue around some of these historical issues so that we can start moving beyond those and having a better relationship between the community and the police department.
http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/lgbt/ELECTIONS-2015-47TH-WARD-Ald-Ameya-Pawar-seeks-to-retain-seat/50541.html
We need to be involved in local politics as well. We vote people out and the rest will learn not to fuck with us
It's funny we are just ending the first black presidents term and race relations are as bad as ever. This guy had a real chance to bring the country together but instead worked tirelessly to pull it farther apart. The democrats thrive on a "crisis." It hides the fact that they are only in office to make themselves rich.
I'd like to take this time to say a hearty FU to this alederman and his cohorts...they are exactly what is wrong with this nation.
Nice job SCC. Like my grandfather used to say"there are only two kinds of aldermen in the city of Chicago,one who has already been indicted and one who soon will be". This assclown appears to be the later
So let me get this straight. You have a public official in a position of power (pawar), who is threatening a private entire ( the FOP and their officers) with retaliation for exercising their constitutionally guaranteed right to vote. I believe there are some federal laws that address such conduct
Elected officials should not use the power of their office to intimidate people who have the right to have different opinions.
The local lodge cannot make a political endorsement for president. They can't endorse national elections only state and local. The Fop here already stated that if they were pressed to make a formal choice it would have been no endorsement.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is time go into court to determine if residency is constitutional.
10/17/2016 05:42:00 AM
I been saying this for years we should start up a collection to hire our own lawyer that's not associated with the FOP.
It's clear the FOP won't represent us regarding this issue because of their back room deal or agreement or whatever you want to call it.
And for those who say that's bullshit... the last 3 presidents (and it maybe more but I only been around for 3) won't even discuss the issue it's pretty obvious this is totally off the table no matter who's running the FOP.
We need to start up a collection and handle it on our own that's the only way we can get rid of residency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3c64j2DPE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Can anyone tell me if this is the Lodge's normal procedure, i.e., to post the National's endorsement on the Lodge's endorsement page in races where the Lodge itself isn't making an endorsement? Has the Lodge ever done this before?
Wait, I thought that the up coming Casino taxes and fees were gonna pay for our pensions, or is that money being set aside for the chosen few. See we still pay and the rich get richer.
That was fucking EPIC!
Pawar...your nothing
Well said, he just saw a soap box opportunity to bolster up BLM etc. and couldn't resist chiming in. Just ignore the 600 pound elephant in the room like, say the unprecedented homicide rate of Chicago and go with the low hanging fruit of police bashing in any shape or form.
Thank you SCC, an excellent response!
Hire some lawyers and FIGHT RESIDENCY NOW. Do not negotiate for lifting residency contractually, meaning we give up something. Fight in the courts until a judge agrees that requiring employees to live in the City is unreasonable and unconstitutional. Hit these ignorant pandering clowns where it hurts.
We have residency due to STATE LAW, not simply because the city wants it. They placed it into law to insure it would remain intact, otherwise we would probably already have it. The legislature which is democrat controlled would have to repeal it and we all know that aint happening.
Threats, strong arm tactics, voter intimidation! All by an elected official!
The FOP has no choice but to sue
Vote Trump
Hey Ald. Ameya Pawar, Go Fuck Yourself
I'm so sick of this fucking machine full of aldercrooks, it's coming get ready....
OT -- Comey acknowledges the False Narrative
The public has 'no idea' whether police shootings are getting worse despite outrage over the killing of black people, says FBI boss James Comey
* FBI boss said videos of fatal police encounters and a lack of reliable data about how often police use force means people believe police are 'biased'
* His comments come at a time when parts of the nation are restless due to the rising number of videos showing law enforcement using deadly force
* String of fatal police shootings seen people demand more accountability
* But Comey said people had 'no idea' whether shootings are getting worse
"He said dramatic videos of fatal police encounters and the lack of reliable data about how often police use force have fueled a belief that 'biased police are killing black men at epidemic rates'.
'It is a narrative driven by video images of real and gut-wrenching misconduct, by images of possible misconduct, by images of perceived misconduct,' he said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843028/Comey-Lack-use-force-data-fuels-talk-police-bias.html
Here's "data" --
Chicago - Final 2015 Totals
Shot & Killed: 444
Shot & Wounded: 2552
Total Shot: 2996
Chicago - Police-Involved Shootings in 2015
Shot & Killed: 9
Shot & Wounded: 16
Again, it would seem that police-involved shootings are statistically insignificant -- a mere chip of wood floating atop a tidal wave of senseless killing in a "community" that insists upon insisting that "Black Lives Matter."
The City found $15 million for a bus over hang...... none for us. But you are not allowed to vote for someone that will represent you!
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161017/avondale/belmont-blue-line-renovation-construction-canopy-15-million-overhaul
You also need to look at who ran the state, good mix from both parties:
But perhaps the most enduring culprit is the “Edgar ramp,” conceived in 1994 by Republican Gov. Jim Edgar as a 50-year program to stabilize the retirement systems.
Edgar set a goal of having the systems 90 percent funded by 2045. For the plan's first 15 years, payment levels were set artificially low—effectively shorting the pension systems each year—and then ramped up significantly in later years. This allowed politicians to comply with the required payments at the start while hoping that future leaders would find billions of dollars down the road.
O'Keefe just dropped video #1 about the DNC operatives...Chicago gets a mention because they admit they started the shit there at the Trump rallies! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
Again the "great minds of SCC" put it in easy to understand language! Here is the elephant in the room pawar are you a citizen? Could that be why your weak cowardly comments are put forth! Alderidiot really our pension money was stolen by the city by daleys family over the years,you work a part-time do whatever you want so called job, and you carry a gold alermatic badge giving you powers why not try patrolling with another aldergoof maybe stupid reilly who removed Trumps sign in front of his multi-million dollar hotel he built in chiraq! Come on get in the sidecar take a ride on your dishonest press train, then you can join the Trump train if your worthy:
City needs to hire at least 2,200 police officers to keep rahms and your broken promises:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/data/ct-police-retirement-mayors-plan-20161002-htmlstory.html
Think in good over 1,000 more people shot this year so far over last year many are innocents:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-weekend-shootings-chicago-20161017-story.html
Now low information goof think your head has been used as a hat rack to long! God bless the police everywhere.
What has to be done to attempt to lower the number of Aldertheives on this shitty. We the forgotten of the shitty should take on this responsibility and get the ball rolling.
OT -- Great article by Prof. Kevin McDonald --
"We are nearing the climax of a watershed election. The Ruling Class understands that Donald Trump represents a counter-revolution to all they have built up over the last 50 years.
"This phenomenon has inspired an important essay from Angelo M. Codevilla, a Senior Fellow of the Claremont Institute and emeritus professor of International Relations at Boston University.
"Codevilla’s basic idea: the cultural revolution of the last 50 years has destroyed America as a constitutional republic. As many on the Alt Right have noted, there is nothing left to conserve. The question now is where our post-republic period will take us.
"The elites...understand that in the last 50 years they have completely upended the old order in America. They have created a revolution that opposes the most fundamental interests of the historic...American nation.
"The top-down nature of this revolution cannot be overemphasized. There was never a demand by a majority, or even close to a majority, from any Western country for a complete transformation...
"Trump represents an inchoate backlash against this revolution. But we have entered an era where it is too late to simply turn back the clock. The changes have been too drastic.
"Because it is difficult to imagine a Trump presidency even thinking about something so monumental as replacing an entire ruling elite, much less leading his constituency to accomplishing it, electing Trump is unlikely to result in a forceful turn away from the country’s current direction. Continuing pretty much on the current trajectory under the same class will further fuel revolutionary sentiments in the land all by itself. Inevitable disappointment with Trump is sure to add to them.
"Codevilla’s conclusion is worth pondering:
"We have stepped over the threshold of a revolution. It is difficult to imagine how we might step back, and futile to speculate where it will end. Our ruling class’s malfeasance, combined with insult, brought it about. Donald Trump did not cause it and is by no means its ultimate manifestation. Regardless of who wins in 2016, this revolution’s sentiments will grow in volume and intensity, and are sure to empower politicians likely to make Americans nostalgic for Donald Trump’s moderation."
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/10/claremonts-codevilla-on-the-coming-revolution-americans-will-be-nostalgic-for-donald-trumps-moderation/
IT JUST GOT BETTER SCC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
The damn DNC PAID to have that one officer get hurt at the Trump Rally.
Burn em all.
His open threats against us place me a policemen in reasonable finacial fear. I demand a suit is filed by Fop to fight resudency using taxing and threats by the management of the city against police. Residency Now !! Fuck you alderman , watch your idle threats, bullying and strong arming me to vote your way. Trump 2016
"Trump says mean things"
Take a look at Hillary's actions moron
I the it when these idiots go national. Don't worry about Trump, worry about your FKING job D HEAD. Local crime. Local taxes. Local corruption. Take care of this, and then you can talk about national politics . A hole.
Isn't dictating to government employees, by means of threats, who they should vote for illegal? Isn't that a Shakeman thing?
The most current James OKeefe vid identifies the protestor organizers who paid mentally ill people to incite violence at the Trump rally in Chicago where police officers were injured. I would hope someone is held accountable for this-these assholes need to be punished.
SCC, great write-up.
The demorat aldercreature(s) use the same tactics as the rest of the progressive/socialist SJW, ridicule, shame, attack, embarrass to get their desired agenda passed; while at the same time ignoring facts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/57yt6z/breaking_aaron_black_dnc_rapid_response/
Proof that the DNC coordinated the violent protest at the Trump rally. These fuckers are sick and trying to steal our country.
SCC, outstanding viewpoint. Keep up the good work. This arrogant ass with his city paid pension, health care, support staff budget, ward improvement budget, etc. is smaller in stature than a pile of squirrel's shit.
Next, turn your barrels on Ed Burke, and expose him for what he is, another aldermanic freeloader with his city paid security force/driver and car who is usually the first to introduce some asinine city council ordinance that costs taxpayers money.
This Obama-Clinton supporter has to follow orders from his sponsors, even though there is much support for Trump by the Indian people of his ward. So he has some jitters coming from Camp Clinton.
This goofy clown of an alderman is for higher taxation, wants to be mayor one day-if he can push his progressive agenda further without interference from Rahm's folks.
Nonetheless, Pawar is as hateful as any other Clintonite and will be the first one to call the ignorant knee jerk police for help like his fellow police hating councilman, Cardenas (D-12) did when his house was besieged by feral blm's allowed to exercise their right to destroy.
The weak Madigan favoring FOP-PAC will probably cave and endorse this turd (Pawar) as they did for anti-police/anti-Trump, Cardenas.
Get out and Vote TRUMP - make America and Chicago Great Again.
From the City of Chicago website for 47th Ward inquiries : 4243 N Lincoln Avenue - (773) 868-4747
Word is they are tearing down existing housing in the Altgeld Gardens public housing complex. The existing housing stock is contaminated over the years by previous residents with pork products. Word is that thousands of Syrian refugees will be relocated to this complex. Let’s build them new housing for our appreciative guests. Pork exposure would violate religious customs or civil rights of our new guests, so the American taxpayer must once again foot the bill to accommodate the newest underclass or imported voting bloc.
The previously scheduled Latin American immigrants will be cast aside because the newest middle eastern humanitarian crisis can’t be addressed by other Islamic countries. Namely, Saudi Arabia with its high standard of living and affluence has the smarts as not to disrupt their way of life with a massive constantly multiplying like rabbits underclass. Saudi Arabia is smart enough not to import the world's problems, so why do we?
St Patel is merit
Sure doesn't sound like their candidate is up 12 points
By the time Obama is done with his third term we will all be in jail.
Thank you SCC!!! Long live the USA. TRUMP 2016
Yes H. Patel from 019 a legend in his own mind
OT - Investigative journalism you won't see done by the MSM.
Undercover video showing Democratic operatives inciting violence at Trump rallies including Chicago. They begin talking about Chicago at 9:00.
Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
Scroll down to the pic of the real Pawar:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6297160
Regarding poster Richard's kleptocracy question. Look at it this way - Chicagoland is just a Theme Park where The Theme is Corruption.
Scary stuff: remember the aborted University of Illinois-Chicago Trump rally in March that was canceled?
Well, it was a planned mob scene coordinated by Democrats with ties to a certain leftist Chicago/Evanston Member of Congress:
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY?t=661
During the "spontaneous" protests, two Chicago Police Officers were injured. The relevant portion of the video is at about 9:30.
Awful stuff staged by political goons. Be safe out there officers!
OT: Video of Democrat operatives confessing and boasting bout disrupting the Chicago Trump rally and others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
Supports a legal suit against the Dems
Just another ASS WIPE ALDERMAN , kissing the Mayors ASS , 1 of many
This guy just another democratic asshole with no clue then we have his girl Hillary so bad agents didn't even want to protect her:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/fbi-docs-hillary-was-so-unpleasant-security-agents-didnt-want-to-protect-her/
Any idiots that vote for her know full well her disgusting attitude toward police and law and order Trump loves and respects police as even his children do but her if you vote for her you deserve what you get!
VERY well written, SCC!!
I think this may be your finest piece yet!
Hey SCC
In regards to the election ...
Is there any lists of Judges that we should vote no for retention...
FOP doesn't have any Judges endorsement
Semper Fetal
That guy is a dirty asshole! So he's going to make light weight threats because the national lodge didn't support killary! FUCK anwar, FUCK Killary and FUCK anyone who thinks I should agree with them all the time. He can check his email from killaryn the one where I said they both can eat a bag of flamin hot foreskins
So I'm hearing my Brother Brothers in Blue complaining about over 600 homicides in Black Neighborhoods but yet they were the ones throwing verbal jabs about JVD and Darren Wilson. These morons STILL think Obama walks on water and aren't informed enough to connect the dots between he,George Soros and the rest of the secular progressive wave that's drowning our streets in blood.
Off the record, but is anyone seeing the Project Veritas Action video Part 1 - where Aaron Black, DNC Rapid Response Coordinator, boasts that their organization, on Hillary's behalf, coordinated the Chicago protest at a Trump event where two Chicago police reporters were injured [9:35]? ->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
That dumb fuck doesn't really "get" the idea of our constitution and our rights. He was born in a shithole where whatever happens happens.
Hey Pawar, where did you get the money to destroy Lawrence with gigantic medians with the pedestrian cut outs that allow the walkers and the bikers who are oh so entitled they can blindly strut into a major thouroughfare? (With or without kids) I thought the city was broke!
All Democrats can fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned. I return all their propaganda mail "return to sender"...fuck them.
1:45 AM Be careful what you wish for, if Residency was dropped and City workers were allowed to leave , what would your homes be worth?
I think you are stuck between a rock and a hard place ! If you are young , go to another LE agency, if you are at 20 yrs or close lock up that Pension, then find another gig.
I had lived in the City for 60 yrs and when I retired from the CPD I moved to the suburbs and never looked back.Think long and hard before you make your decision and good Luck!
Signed One Angry P.O. (RET)
Some of these politicians in the past should be going to JAIL,for blatantly stealing,just as an example,I HEAR DALEY,has a nice new gig with the LAZ COMPANY AFTER A DEAL GONE BAD SELLING THE PARKING METERS,IT WASNT BAD FOR HIM,THAT DEAL WAS MADE BACK THEN IM SURE, G. it's that easy to steal in CHIRAQ,if your a politician,or even a retired politician!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So let me get this straight. You have a public official in a position of power (pawar), who is threatening a private entire ( the FOP and their officers) with retaliation for exercising their constitutionally guaranteed right to vote. I believe there are some federal laws that address such conduct
10/17/2016 10:16:00 AM
Absolutely correct! What he said is a violation of several federal laws im sure. Someone (FOP) should take action on this. This should be brought to the national FOP's attention immediately. Imagine the outrage is this were reversed? What if a republican politician said this about the CTU for endorsing Hilary? It would be national news and the DOJ would be all over it.
Get prepared for a nation wide civil war. People are getting real fed up.
Off topic, but in the FOP 7's magazine in the mail it looks like they've finally endorsed Christopher Pfannkuche (R) for States Atty (page 23). About time, better late than never.
God damn your good account. Your tongue is prettier than a ten dollars r whore. I do mean speaking wise
SCC...This needs to be brought to the immediate attention of the National FOP! We can't rely on the Chicago FOP to do anything. The national FOP will not be happy about this I'm sure.
It should come as no shock or surprise that many of the "Democratic" elected officials in Chicago and Cook County in the Age of Obama use the "D" party label as a pose for election purposes. More than a few of the so called "Progressives" have ties to other political parties that have clandestine histories such as the "Socialist" and "Communist" parties.
Do some deep research on these leftists and you will find some familiar names of "community organizers" who have served in the Chicago City Council, the Cook County Board of Commissioners, the Illinois General Assembly, the United States Congress and the White House, who are actually committed to other political ideologies not friendly to the American Dream and the US Constitution. Investigate the names of Danny Davis, Robin Kelly, Jan Schakowsky and others and you will see that they are not truly "Democrats." They are Saul Alinsky type radicals.
Merit Patel from 010 went to this Alderman and begged to be promoted. As an officer, only made pimpy arrests and couldn't write a report to save his life. He was laughingstock of 019/023. He nicknamed himself Rock after the wrestler.
Finally, someone is recognizing him.
Lifetime Achievement Award and Father Daniel Brandt as the Humanitarian of the Year.
Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 5:30 PM
2016 Dinner Dance
Alta Villa Banquets
430 North Addison Road
Addison, Illinois 60101
SCC PLEASE re-post that picture from about a year ago of him and deb mell holding black lives matter posters.
Time for another march downtown. Maybe right before the election!
Challenge residency!!! Can't say it enough.
And there you have it....the supposed police leaders of this nation digress and give in to the bullshit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/10/17/head-of-u-s-police-chiefs-apologizes-for-historic-mistreatment-of-minorities/
It's called political persecution!
Something the dems do very well.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So I'm hearing my Brother Brothers in Blue complaining about over 600 homicides in Black Neighborhoods but yet they were the ones throwing verbal jabs about JVD and Darren Wilson. These morons STILL think Obama walks on water and aren't informed enough to connect the dots between he,George Soros and the rest of the secular progressive wave that's drowning our streets in blood.
10/17/2016 04:20:00 PM
Don't be so hasty in your judgement.
Only the weak minded subscribe to the
perpetually aggrieved victim mindset.
Speaking of communistic, KGB-like tactics, please watch this video. One of the men is married to a big time, Illinois politician. A must see for CPD. Long, but must watch.
http://m.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995/undercover-video-democrats-admit-to-inciting-15209763/
And he's Islamic loving, speaking at Cair events http://www.cairchicago.org/2013-speaker-bios/and
30 yrs otj , 4 more to go until they force me off at 63
drug dealin , gang bangin , agg battery , homicides will rise
still respond to all rape , robbery , burglary in progress call to assist victims
will be comin in hot with lights on siren , air horn blarin
a copper with half a brain will no longer drift into the gray area of street stops for gun or drugs feel bad for the many decent folks living in the ghetto
they got the poleece force the commie liberal community activists demanded
good luck folks , I will do my job , respect all citizens as I always do , like 99% of poleece officers
This somehow sounds like a pretty serious ETHICS VIOLATION! Using the power of his position to affect a contract vote? Not like it matters if it goes to arbitration, but who does this fucked think he is?
The public doesn't know how unions work, and they don't need to.
Only 11% of the US is unionized. That means 290 million people don't know shit about "local FOP" vs "national lodge." They only see that cops love Trump. Cop=Trump. It's boringly simple.
And you know what else? Non-unionized people don't need to know the difference--just like you don't care about their job situations.
In this case, it's the local FOP's job to distance itself from an association with someone who hates veterans, the disabled, immigrants, blacks, women, etc.--because it makes the police look like they hate veterans, the disabled, immigrants, blacks, women, etc.
Pawar's just a messenger; he's unimportant. You know who shoots messengers? The bad guys do.
Shame on everyone.
-Badger
Patel from 019 now merit Sgt in 010. A complete fool. Embarrassment to merit process.
WELL SAID !!!!
Oy Vey. I can't wait till this election is over. We need to come together. Even if we put 10 million new police on the streets of Chicago or anywhere else, it will not stop crime nor a create a magical, utopian vision of complete law and order. A police officer would need to be in every home, car, corner, store, office, classroom and on and on and on....There is very little the police can do about mental illness, substance abuse/misuse, impulse control issues, abject poverty and lack of education. Lastly, do we really want to create a police state?
They run this city like communist Cook County, Chicago. Democratic controlled.
When the city is completely gutted and run into the ground. Who will want to live here or move back.
Going, going, going - gone!
https://i.redd.it/63peg49o93sx.jpg
In case you missed this meme.
Anonymous said...
1:45 AM Be careful what you wish for, if Residency was dropped and City workers were allowed to leave , what would your homes be worth?
I think you are stuck between a rock and a hard place ! If you are young , go to another LE agency, if you are at 20 yrs or close lock up that Pension, then find another gig.
I had lived in the City for 60 yrs and when I retired from the CPD I moved to the suburbs and never looked back.Think long and hard before you make your decision and good Luck!
Signed One Angry P.O. (RET)
10/17/2016 04:48:00 PM
Our homes, except for those on the VERY narrow outer fringe of the city, would be worth pretty much the same as they are now. Since the outer fringe is overpriced because of city workers, you might see a little dip there.
What's MORE important is losing your ability to vote on the issues that affect our jobs and our pensions. I will ALWAYS maintain an address in the city, somehow, some way, so I can have a say in the financial decisions that affect my life and my pension.
Awesome post. Anyone voting for the dishonest, corrupt, incompetent politician who has accumulated generational wealth from a lifetime of "public service" is an idiot. And the Project Veritas O'Keefe video is 15 minutes long but worth the view. Jan Shakowsky's husband prominently featured. As a female I'm embarrassed for my gender falling in line with the sexual harassment bs thrown out by the Clinton campaign. That's between Trump and the alleged "victims, none of which ever filed a police report nor have corroborating witnesses but instead waited till a few weeks before the election to unload. Give me a break. Thank you, Chicago Police, for all you do. It is sincerely appreciated.
To 10/17/16 11:52:00 AM
You quote Angelo M. Codevilla, "Because it is difficult to imagine a Trump presidency even thinking about something so monumental as replacing an entire ruling elite, much less leading his constituency to accomplishing it, electing Trump is unlikely to result in a forceful turn away from the country’s current direction. Continuing pretty much on the current trajectory under the same class will further fuel revolutionary sentiments in the land all by itself. Inevitable disappointment with Trump is sure to add to them.
Sorry we don't need no stinkin', Trump bashing, intellectuals with no imagination. I can imagine a Trump presidency and it will be a lot of hard work, sacrifice and encouraging liberals to open their minds, but won't it be worth it to save our country? The ones who need to, like Mr. Codevilla, can go to a safe place and we'll have Barak Obama hand you a kleenex.
Naysayer, are you a troll?
Dio wrote Were The Last In Line. So true. Thanks Ronnie.
I agree with you guys merit Sgt Patel in 010 is a goof that begged to get promoted. Was a goof in 019 Tact. What an embarrassment to the department. Good luck 010.
The opening shots across the bow on Lodge 7 in the up-coming contract talks. They have their plan and want to gut all union protections. It will be a fight.
Anonymous said...
Off topic, but in the FOP 7's magazine in the mail it looks like they've finally endorsed Christopher Pfannkuche (R) for States Atty (page 23). About time, better late than never.
10/17/2016 05:10:00 P
The media and progressives want Foxx and they will ignore Pfannkuche
We have residency due to STATE LAW, not simply because the city wants it. They placed it into law to insure it would remain intact, otherwise we would probably already have it. The legislature which is democrat controlled would have to repeal it and we all know that aint happening.
10/17/2016 11:14:00 AM
that does not mean that the courts can't and won't overturn the law, but it would be an expensive court fight. I don't believe there is a major city in the US that still has residency.And, if this state law only applies to Chicago, there might be a chance on over turning it.
Does anyone know a national news source that would pick up this story about the alderman. The democrats are trying to say the republicans are trying to supress the vote. Seems it's just the other way around.
I been saying this for years we should start up a collection to hire our own lawyer that's not associated with the FOP.
It's clear the FOP won't represent us regarding this issue because of their back room deal or agreement or whatever you want to call it.
And for those who say that's bullshit... the last 3 presidents (and it maybe more but I only been around for 3) won't even discuss the issue it's pretty obvious this is totally off the table no matter who's running the FOP.
We need to start up a collection and handle it on our own that's the only way we can get rid of residency
10/17/2016 10:22:00 AM
Be careful what you give up for the residency requirement.
Do NOT give up ANY contractual protections or benefits. You will NEVER get them back.
You can always sell your house and move. You can't get your benefits back.
Besides,unless you move far out of Chicago,it's more expensive to live in the suburbs. Check out the taxes,water bills,trash collection,etc.
Aligns right there with the Shakman Decree, "Vote for our candidates or we will make you lives miserable!" What a liberal, socialist asshole who totally disregards the first amendment right of the people to speak freely and openly about their political choices and support. Nothing less then a veiled threat!
We are not talking about if it's more expensive, grass greener, etc. to live out of the City. We should have the RIGHT to live where we want like any other citizen or any other LEO in this nation and not be stuck here like indentured servants.
It's bad enough I am stuck here "as a condition of employment", but now my family are prisoners here too and exposed to scum and dangerous people, and my kids are denied the opportunities they may have growing up somewhere else.
It's bogus, it's garbage, and everyone knows it. Now that the political elite and media have teamed up to take a shit on us, and scheme to deny us our medical benefits and pension, WHY ARE WE SITTING DOWN AND TAKING IT? Why are we still playing nice with these disingenuous slime balls?
Have a good lawyer take the case to a judge to have the STATE LAW overturned as unconstitutional. We lose nothing contractually. You don't have to abandon your bungalow in Mt Greenwood, but at least we will have a choice of where to live, regardless of commute or cost.
Wake up, officers.
And spare me the asinine "you knew that when you signed on" crap. I signed up to serve people. Yes, I am compensated well. Yes, the promised benefits are (were) generous.
And yes, we on CPD are being denied a basic right that every other officer from every other city in this country has- the freedom of where you want to sleep at night, without risking getting fired.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I been saying this for years we should start up a collection to hire our own lawyer that's not associated with the FOP.
It's clear the FOP won't represent us regarding this issue because of their back room deal or agreement or whatever you want to call it.
And for those who say that's bullshit... the last 3 presidents (and it maybe more but I only been around for 3) won't even discuss the issue it's pretty obvious this is totally off the table no matter who's running the FOP.
We need to start up a collection and handle it on our own that's the only way we can get rid of residency
10/17/2016 10:22:00 AM
Be careful what you give up for the residency requirement.
Do NOT give up ANY contractual protections or benefits. You will NEVER get them back.
You can always sell your house and move. You can't get your benefits back.
Besides,unless you move far out of Chicago,it's more expensive to live in the suburbs. Check out the taxes,water bills,trash collection,etc.
10/18/2016 06:33:00 AM
What i would be worried about is the collapse in real estate prices in neighborhoods like Mt. Greenwood.
Besides,unless you move far out of Chicago,it's more expensive to live in the suburbs. Check out the taxes,water bills,trash collection,etc.
10/18/2016 06:33:00 AM
Do you work for Rahm? Up on the North side, we are paying suburban taxes. Now they are tacking on more.
In the burbs they get what they pay for. We are paying through the nose and then we have to spend another 15 grand to send our kids to a school they won't get killed in.
The suburbs are not a better deal? Do the math.
"Sorry we don't need no stinkin', Trump bashing, intellectuals with no imagination. I can imagine a Trump presidency and it will be a lot of hard work, sacrifice and encouraging liberals to open their minds, but won't it be worth it to save our country? The ones who need to, like Mr. Codevilla, can go to a safe place and we'll have Barak Obama hand you a kleenex."
"Naysayer, are you a troll?"
10/17/2016 11:13:00 PM
Nope, neither naysayer or troll. The gentleman is merely making a very realistic, reasonable assessment of short-term vs. long-term prospects. Trump won't solve everything, but he'll be a "good first step," setting further resistance into motion. It is a message of hope.
Last paragraph was --
"We have stepped over the threshold of a revolution. It is difficult to imagine how we might step back, and futile to speculate where it will end. Our ruling class’s malfeasance, combined with insult, brought it about. Donald Trump did not cause it and is by no means its ultimate manifestation. Regardless of who wins in 2016, this revolution’s sentiments will grow in volume and intensity, and are sure to empower politicians likely to make Americans nostalgic for Donald Trump’s moderation."
Worth your time to read the whole piece -- excellent, and much longer than can be quoted here.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/10/claremonts-codevilla-on-the-coming-revolution-americans-will-be-nostalgic-for-donald-trumps-moderation/
"Word is they are tearing down existing housing in the Altgeld Gardens public housing complex. The existing housing stock is contaminated over the years by previous residents with pork products. Word is that thousands of Syrian refugees will be relocated to this complex. Let’s build them new housing for our appreciative guests. Pork exposure would violate religious customs or civil rights of our new guests, so the American taxpayer must once again foot the bill to accommodate the newest underclass or imported voting bloc."
10/17/2016 01:36:00 PM
Something has been going on. Didn't see anything specific about pork, but I'm looking.
"The Chicago Housing Authority is in the process of redeveloping 160 acres of Altgeld Gardens Murray Homes Complex in an attempt to revitalize this public housing development and the surrounding Riverdale community. The project encompasses renovation of 162 separate buildings and construction of seven new laundry buildings. The design and construction work is being done in six phases and in a time period of over eight years."
Perhaps the neighborhood needs a Moo And Oink to provide "an island of economic stability?"
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Anonymous said...
I been saying this for years we should start up a collection to hire our own lawyer that's not associated with the FOP.
It's clear the FOP won't represent us regarding this issue because of their back room deal or agreement or whatever you want to call it.
And for those who say that's bullshit... the last 3 presidents (and it maybe more but I only been around for 3) won't even discuss the issue it's pretty obvious this is totally off the table no matter who's running the FOP.
We need to start up a collection and handle it on our own that's the only way we can get rid of residency
10/17/2016 10:22:00 AM
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Einstein you have to change the state law first. Go see your state rep and state senator. See how far you get.
Residency must go.
he is not qualified to work in any of his countrymen s 7-11 stores, such a punk move no clue bet the cowrad would scream "police,police" when his people attack him! "you have to know the law before you break the law" no wonder chiraq is a laughing stock worldwide! Then you have O'Reilly another young goof crying about removing Donald trump the next president street sign after he spent over 100 million building and giving citizens jobs here! Reilly mad because Trump stated the obvious we are oveer run with crime, her aldergoofs we have well over 1,000 more shot than last year and we have 2 full months left, you caused the blood by your pathetic idiotic ideas worried about a sign as barry obama says "come on man!"
Alderman are all little bitches who kiss Rahm's ass as the did to Daley and every other scum bag democrates. Paw are is nothing but a bitch and dick holder for the little man Rahm. The city council fucked all police officer with the retired medical just like the Democrates Dan "the pussy PO lack" Rostenkowski did with axing career service emplyeees out of civil service. He did not ax the career electorate did he? Durbin "the Turbin"and wife are now collecting OVER 50,000 a year in social security and both are getting full paychecks. Him from the senate where he will get a full pension.
You rubber stamped asshole show your true self, for the last 50 plus years. Standing ovations needed??
All the water fountains being shut off due to lead contamination, the thug neighborhoods being plugged with lead contamination over 1,000 so far and this goof is doing this resign now sir your finished proving we definitely don't need alderman take "sign remover" my feelings are hurt by the truth O'Reilly with you thank you!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-parks-lead-water-20161018-story.html
Anonymous said...
Besides,unless you move far out of Chicago,it's more expensive to live in the suburbs. Check out the taxes,water bills,trash collection,etc.
10/18/2016 06:33:00 AM
Do you work for Rahm? Up on the North side, we are paying suburban taxes. Now they are tacking on more.
In the burbs they get what they pay for. We are paying through the nose and then we have to spend another 15 grand to send our kids to a school they won't get killed in.
The suburbs are not a better deal? Do the math.
10/18/2016 10:35:00 AM
Only if you have kids in school. I paid for mine to go to catholic school. Not interested in paying for anyone else's kids in the suburbs. Taxes are way higher than in Chicago.
To the previous posts regarding the upcoming contract: Yes, you're correct about the lengthy process to get the new contract approved by the City and ratified by the rank & file in past years. However, since Rahm has a castrated lap dog as the current FOP President, he will want the contract in place before we can elect a real President and Trustees who will do the right thing and fight to preserve what we now have.
As far as Pawar is concerned, now i can understand why the discriminatory caste system flourished in India. We are true "untouchables!"
Retired .38 spl +P
you guys ragging on 010 sgt must have been some dogs. backs up everyone on the beat and will help you out whenever needed. good sgt are hard to come bye merit or not
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The opening shots across the bow on Lodge 7 in the up-coming contract talks. They have their plan and want to gut all union protections. It will be a fight.
10/18/2016 01:20:00 AM
Maybe it's time for the FOP to start interviewing skilled, professional negotiators who could assist in the fight?
Ya, ok, never mind!
"Maybe it's time for the FOP to start interviewing skilled, professional negotiators who could assist in the fight?
Ya, ok, never mind!
10/19/2016 08:47:00 AM"
When Nolan was President, I asked him at a Membership meeting why Professional Negotiators weren't hired. His answer was they cost too much money and he and his board were capable of negotiating the contract. Apparently the current membership likes that type of leadership and elected one of the Nolan team as president after 16 year absence. Brilliant.
"Only the weak minded subscribe to the
perpetually aggrieved victim mindset.
10/17/2016 08:13:00 PM"
Doing a little soul searching there are you?
Only if you have kids in school. I paid for mine to go to catholic school. Not interested in paying for anyone else's kids in the suburbs. Taxes are way higher than in Chicago.
10/18/2016 09:31:00 PM
We moved to a very nice suburb from Chicago and the taxes are the same as I was overpaying in Chicago.
The Chicago taxes were going up also.
The cost for sewer and garbage is actually cheaper than in Chicago now. Our water is about the same or a little less. One thing to note is the insurance for our home and cars is much lower. Our cable and natural gas is way lower without the rahm fees! The price of gasoline is lower and we don't have an extra tax on pop, bottled water or shopping bags! Oh ya, the schools are actually great with kids at grade level and above.
Thanks rahm, you forced me to be the last person from my family, (in Chicago since 1850's), to leave Chicago. Why was I there as long as I was??? Retire as soon as you can and leave... it's not like they give a fuck.
To (yet another) unpublished troll:
Pawar can rip the National Lodge all he wants. America, free country, all that.
But after that he threatened the Local Lodge and future Contract negotiations for the actions of the National Lodge. That is just a wee bit unethical.
Asshat
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