Most Dangerous Block
- The 4400 block of West Monroe on Chicago's West Side is a residential street of two-story buildings, senior citizens and a day care center.
It's also the city's most dangerous block of 2016, a stretch plagued by heroin, shootings and murder.
"I don't think it's safe here any time," said a landlord on the block, who asked that his name be withheld out of fear for this safety.
And Big Brained Special Ed has this one all figured out, too:
- While the South Side spike in shootings is because of "disrespecting on social media," on the West Side there is a "generational drug problem," Chicago Police Supt. Eddie Johnson said. "It's more about drug turf."
Glad we have that all figured out. Guess who chimes in next?
- Ald. Jason Ervin, whose 28th Ward covers Garfield Park, said those involved with drugs shouldn't get a pass from the criminal justice system.
"Where you find drugs, you are going to find violence," Ervin said. "There has been a laxer attitude of possession and delivery of narcotics. It has emboldened the climbing violence."
Drugs = Violence?
You mean drugs like......Cannabis? That pesky green leafy weed that you and your ilk just made into a ticket instead of an arrest? A ticket that takes a bit longer than an actual physical arrest used to take? And Ervin is surprised that violence follows the lack of enforcement?
You mean drugs like......Cannabis? That pesky green leafy weed that you and your ilk just made into a ticket instead of an arrest? A ticket that takes a bit longer than an actual physical arrest used to take? And Ervin is surprised that violence follows the lack of enforcement?
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
62 Comments:
Aren't these "nonviolent drug offenders" similar to the ones Obama is pardoning? Why bother arresting these people anymore, what's the point?
Didn't Obama just do some things about the drug problem and incarceration?
Wow, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
Yeah, it's weed that's the problem. Not the heroin, crack, or PCP, it's the weed. Alcohol alone is responsible for how many deaths a year and it's perfectly legal but you don't mention it. Obviously disagreeing with you on that particular point, SCC. Thanks for providing a space for discussion
Don't count out the 0-Block just yet!
At least one supervisor and a couple of POs in Organized Crime were shown the door because they suggested that there was a direct causal relation between drugs and violence and verbalized how our current methodology was inefficient and largely ineffective. Now the super says drugs are the problem.
I don't think anyone is being shot & killed over weed.
If an officer takes more time to fill out a ticket and inventory a bag of weed at the end of the shift, it's because he/she is either incompetent, or there are some serious training issues that need to be ironed out.
But, but, I keep getting told that the war on drugs was the biggest contributor to a criminal justice system that was systemically racist?
I think all drugs should be legal maybe the government passes them out free. All you want. Except we dont resuscitate you.
All the efforts to stop drug use is focused on one small segment of society.
Most of us have no interest in drugs and wouldnt use them if we got them free.
Others dont use them because of possible legal ramifications
And others use them regardless of health or legal ramifications
All the efforts of law enforcement are directed at the second group.
Why? Who cares if someone wants to use drugs? Why is it the government's business?
Not excusing bad behavior.
But if drugs were legal and the costs were more reasonable there would be far less crime. Robberies theft from auto burglary etc.
Plus no more wars over territory.
Basically make it like booze. I actually think that after an initial spike, use would go down because drugs arent cool anymore, since theyre legal
This is my two cents worth
Well the aldercreatures and the SJWs wanted the cops to back off from proactive police work. Reap what you have sowed. And next year will be worse, especially after the DOJ report is released.
Its what happens when your dumb ass politicians listen to the activists. Fucktards better wake up
OVER.... 1st & 16th... retire and hope there is a pension check once a month.
But our current Potus has released more federal prisoners than any other president because they were just drug offenders, serving lengthy or life sentences. Because he says there is no connection between drugs and violence.
No. prickwinker says drugs offenders are not a problem. Let them be
Okay... I'm not a SJW or liberal extremist...
But decriminalizing Pot and doing what states like Colorado have done is a good idea.
Cannibis should never have been a damn Schedule 1 drug in the first place.
Jason Ervin 28th Ward. You are king of the garbage dump and you are part of the problem, not the solution as I see it. So don't tell us what the deal is in your hood. We all know what Garfield Park is and has been since the 70's with the exception the NW and UC social workers who contributed to the social destruction are long gone.
Do not sit there and explain the difference between the west side and south side. There is no difference. Same shit same unliveable neighborhoods and if you think differently you need to lay off the weed.
Why won't the general public open its eyes to these problems? Why not just admit it's a cultural issue among African/Americans.
Who cares?
Obama has three more weeks to let out non violent drug offenders.
He voted for special ed,hows that working out?
He voted for special ed,hows that working out?
Weed. Yes, the pesky green leafy substance, a drug that is legal in 1/2 of states and is heading toward being legal as a recreation drug in many states. Will the new president instruct his justice department to crack down on legal marijuana? It will be interesting. Medical marijuana, I don't think so. But, recreational marijuana? Yes, i do think that the Justice department will put a stop to that.
You mean drugs, like what most of the poor downtrodden citizens got convicted of selling before President Obama commuted their sentences?
I have to wonder how many of those shootings were a big 'welcome home!' to some of the lucky commutees from their gang-banger pals?
I don't think anyone is being shot & killed over weed.
If an officer takes more time to fill out a ticket and inventory a bag of weed at the end of the shift, it's because he/she is either incompetent, or there are some serious training issues that need to be ironed out.
You don't think so? Well you're an idiot.
Maybe the FOP can start a tour bus operation, sorta like TMZ, where they take people around spots in LA to look for celebrities, but here, they can take liberals and SJW's over and around the 4400 blk of Monroe street and see how their pets live. Should convert a lot of them right away and the others might not make it back, so its a win-win
I don't think anyone is being shot & killed over weed.
If an officer takes more time to fill out a ticket and inventory a bag of weed at the end of the shift, it's because he/she is either incompetent, or there are some serious training issues that need to be ironed out.
You are an idiot. You are not the police so please shut the fuck up. If you are you are God help us all. Go to the area of Madison and Leamington in the 015th dist. Then go to the area of West End and Laporte. The head to Lamon and Hubbard, and Laramie and Adams. All spots where they sell weed, all areas where a shitload of shootings have been occurring this last year. Five shot just last week on Hubbard. Weed in itself may not make people violent, but the corners where it's sold can be very dangerous.
Why not wall in that block? top to bottom solid concrete reinforced walls, throw food to the animals over the top, have live streaming tv the city could reap millions in advertising as watch how the animals kill and maim each other that would show the world how this democratic city is being destroyed thanks to lack of leadership!!
Maybe Irvin should have a talk with the liberal black caucus and Prickwinkle, Dart Foxx and the out going goofball OBama who let more drug criminals go than the last 11 presidents combined.
Go figure. The drug dealing capital of Chicago has violence. Crack and heroine sold on almost every corner. Circular Band shell in Garfield park a haven for druggies and a hazard of needles strewn everywhere. Weed is a mellow drug until they put PCP into it for their blunts.
Suburbanites flow in and purchase drugs then flow out unimpeded. Junkies everywhere. Highest population of parolees in the state are on the west side. Police are in protective fetal mode there. Number one or two in homicides every year. Yet A/4 violent crimes detective division is closed down. All the ingredients for violence are there.
The inmates are running the asylum! Anyone watching? Anyone care?
The only surprise in this article is that he is not calling for heavy police presence on this block
I recall working on the west side years ago and not giving a shit, and now I still don't give a shit.
Real Police!
Weed is the problem? You gotta be kidding.
they asked and we gave them what they wanted, a lack of policing. Alder-person please tell all of us what we should now be going. I can't do any police work in your community because if I do, I'm that big white racist you keep calling us. Good luck westside, just keep up the good work and we will keep counting the bodies.
When you have an Alderman like Ervin, who is totally anti police running this ward what do you expect, protect the dope boys who contribute to you war chest and FUCK THE POLICE, why should the police be your BITCHES.
Send Jamal phaker and fat ed there to clean it up they have all the answers
Smoked pot? Congratulations, you are qualified to apply for the Chicago Police Department.
I had a job many years back where the company did some work for a certain alderman, and he never paid the bill...A certain alderman mentioned in this story...I spent months trying to collect, and actually got through to speak with him personally a few times and each one was assured the payment would be made immediately. Deadbeat.
Anonymous said...
Why won't the general public open its eyes to these problems? Why not just admit it's a cultural issue among African/Americans.
12/29/2016 06:33:00 AM
You have no idea how to define or interpret culture. Daily prayers in Muslim countries is more cultural. Everybody from all walks of life that would be separate in other matters are subject to them.
You on the other hand make a blanket statement about a cultural issues across an entire race. The problem is Socrates that rich, middle class, working class and poor blacks don't have the same value system or same behavioral patters. Just like your southwest side billies would not be accepted by north shore white (let's not pretend).
I'm black. I have a couple degrees. My black wife has a degree. Neither of us are first generation college graduates. We have a ton of black married friends, multiple kids parented with one spouse. They all work and most of them have degrees or if not spent a few years in college. You don't know of that culture yet my life is surrounded by that culture...despite me growing up in 007 and my wife growing up in 025. I kid you not, I know a lot of friends from CPS..black kids all from those south side districts that jump that went to Harvard, Dartmouth, Oxford, U of C, Northwestern etc. So how is my culture drugs and violence?
Blogger Sir Donkey, esq said...
But, but, I keep getting told that the war on drugs was the biggest contributor to a criminal justice system that was systemically racist?
12/29/2016 12:39:00 AM
I don't buy anything wholesale, liberal or conservative, but there was truth in that. Corner black kid caught with a rock...hook him. White hippie, hype guy caught with a rock...what are you doing over here? Get outta here. You're ruining your life etc.
Is that every case? Never and absolutely not..but for people to say they never saw that. Please.
Fuck that round, mound, of sound!
Special Ed's 5w noggin light bulb needs to be replaced.
He's glad it's only the 4400 block too.
Should be an easy task to move the folks over to 4300 & 4500.
Hey Special Ed, any common factor besides guns, gangs and drugs?
29 and a day said...
I think all drugs should be legal maybe the government passes them out free. All you want. Except we dont resuscitate you.....
....This is my two cents worth
12/29/2016 12:47:00 AM
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You are 100% right, my friend.
Billions spent the war on drugs since the 1960's. Has it gotten any better? No.
Will legalization be perfect? No, but on balance it will probably be a whole lot better, for all the reasons you mentioned.
Most importantly, if after a couple years legalization does not work, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK.
What we are doing now is clearly not working. What do we have to lose?
My two cents worth.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
And I learned how to process dope arrests by sitting near the spot, and taking down every Whittie that drove past.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Why won't the general public open its eyes to these problems? Why not just admit it's a cultural issue among African/Americans.
12/29/2016 06:33:00 AM
You have no idea how to define or interpret culture. Daily prayers in Muslim countries is more cultural. Everybody from all walks of life that would be separate in other matters are subject to them.
You on the other hand make a blanket statement about a cultural issues across an entire race. The problem is Socrates that rich, middle class, working class and poor blacks don't have the same value system or same behavioral patters. Just like your southwest side billies would not be accepted by north shore white (let's not pretend).
I'm black. I have a couple degrees. My black wife has a degree. Neither of us are first generation college graduates. We have a ton of black married friends, multiple kids parented with one spouse. They all work and most of them have degrees or if not spent a few years in college. You don't know of that culture yet my life is surrounded by that culture...despite me growing up in 007 and my wife growing up in 025. I kid you not, I know a lot of friends from CPS..black kids all from those south side districts that jump that went to Harvard, Dartmouth, Oxford, U of C, Northwestern etc. So how is my culture drugs and violence?
12/29/2016 12:08:00 PM
Well said!
This bears repeating for the narrow minds
and those whose lips tend to move when they read...
Doubly ikrsome when some liberal pin-head
chirps brightly about, "You're so different
from the others..."
It's a walk-away to keep from smacking them.
Of course you're judged as
"over-educated, angry and uppity" when you
don't co-sign, buy in or validate their bullshit.
How about leaving people alone and respectfully
letting them be to live their lives?
The progressives are wholly unable to do that.
obtrusion is their way of life.
Strange acting, funny thinking blacks
gives progressives the yips...
There's no reliable "template"
by which to war-game or pigeon-hole them.
For all the people who have never worked the west side (not saying I'm better or worse than anyone who hasn't I'm just saying) and say nobody has ever been shot over weed are talking out of their backsides. Weed spots are very lucrative. Especially because having a pack of weed only is only a ticket the pack workers are out there lined up to work. This makes armed robberies a common place. Sometimes people get shot during these robberies. Either way if you rip a spot off for a couple grand in money or product you can pretty much guarantee a stolen van full of juveniles is going to hit that leaf (pcp) and go drive down whatever block they think stole it and let some lead fly.
Now if weed is legally sold in a store no problems!
I don't think anyone is being shot & killed over weed.
If an officer takes more time to fill out a ticket and inventory a bag of weed at the end of the shift, it's because he/she is either incompetent, or there are some serious training issues that need to be ironed out.
12/29/2016 12:36:00 AM
If you don't think people have been killed over weed you are either trolling or the dumbest person on the planet. If you really are on the job, you shouldn't be.
Beat 1115
I don't think anyone is being shot & killed over weed.
If an officer takes more time to fill out a ticket and inventory a bag of weed at the end of the shift, it's because he/she is either incompetent, or there are some serious training issues that need to be ironed out.
12/29/2016 12:36:00 AM
I'm sorry you don't think so, and no one reading your comment thinks you're actually police. If you were, you'd know it's happening daily on the westside. Weed is the number one money maker these days because they know there is no punishment.
Wilcox between Pulaski and Keeler.
To the people saying weed is no big deal....tell that to all the shooting victims at the Leamington and Madison weed spot.
Before you get you culture up in a bunch sir, I believe he was referring to the "subset" of the African American culture that is making successful African American look bad due to there only connection...skin color.
You have no idea how to define or interpret culture. Daily prayers in Muslim countries is more cultural. Everybody from all walks of life that would be separate in other matters are subject to them.
You on the other hand make a blanket statement about a cultural issues across an entire race. The problem is Socrates that rich, middle class, working class and poor blacks don't have the same value system or same behavioral patters. Just like your southwest side billies would not be accepted by north shore white (let's not pretend).
I'm black. I have a couple degrees. My black wife has a degree. Neither of us are first generation college graduates. We have a ton of black married friends, multiple kids parented with one spouse. They all work and most of them have degrees or if not spent a few years in college. You don't know of that culture yet my life is surrounded by that culture...despite me growing up in 007 and my wife growing up in 025. I kid you not, I know a lot of friends from CPS..black kids all from those south side districts that jump that went to Harvard, Dartmouth, Oxford, U of C, Northwestern etc. So how is my culture drugs and violence?
The superintendent and his cheating girlfriend should move on that block. Follow in the great foot steps of mayor bryne.
"I don't think anyone is being shot & killed over weed."
You're absolutely right and pretty stupid or you have some messed up agenda, if you can't see people are shot and killed over the -- money -- that is derived from selling weed and other drugs like Crack and Heroin, etc.
-Citizen
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the people saying weed is no big deal....tell that to all the shooting victims at the Leamington and Madison weed spot.
12/29/2016 09:38:00 PM
Yeah, and I'll bet all those victims were DEALERS as opposed to USERS.
Legalize it, let the government sell or regulate it. Dealers would then be put out of business, OVER NIGHT.
Dealers would have no more business, hence there would be nothing to fight about (at least drug related), hence no more turf wars, hence no more turf wars related violence.
Pretty simple, actually.
I don't buy anything wholesale, liberal or conservative, but there was truth in that. Corner black kid caught with a rock...hook him. White hippie, hype guy caught with a rock...what are you doing over here? Get outta here. You're ruining your life etc.
Is that every case? Never and absolutely not..but for people to say they never saw that. Please.
12/29/2016 12:12:00 PM
Maybe you and your friends are bad people if that is your experience. My experience was the opposite. WE gave more people from blighted neighborhoods a break. Gave more assistance to people from the hood because they needed more help. That's what good people do, and those were the people I worked with.
Your example was a tainted stereotype formed I suppose, from the constant barrage of nonsense from the Progressives. I think you may actually believe it, kind of like Stockholm Syndrome. I would like you to site concrete examples from your career. not just the fairy tale version you seem to remember.
I don't buy anything wholesale, liberal or conservative, but there was truth in that. Corner black kid caught with a rock...hook him. White hippie, hype guy caught with a rock...what are you doing over here? Get outta here. You're ruining your life etc.
Is that every case? Never and absolutely not..but for people to say they never saw that. Please.
12/29/2016 12:12:00 PM
Maybe you and your friends are bad people if that is your experience. My experience was the opposite. WE gave more people from blighted neighborhoods a break. Gave more assistance to people from the hood because they needed more help. That's what good people do, and those were the people I worked with.
Your example was a tainted stereotype formed I suppose, from the constant barrage of nonsense from the Progressives. I think you may actually believe it, kind of like Stockholm Syndrome. I would like you to site concrete examples from your career. not just the fairy tale version you seem to remember.
Everyone must have forgetten about the 3900 blk of Grenshaw. Where there are at least 4 calls every shift about a person with a gun or drug sales. 4400 blk of monroe as the worst is a joke do more research people
Retired & living in Colorado.
Where I live in the mountains Recreational & Medical Cannabis is sold legally & everyone has a gun & many carry.
Our last shooting was in 1973 on an out of town visitor who was Wanted.
If anyone ever came into our town & tried to rob a store it is unlikely they would get out of the store alive & if so, they would get caught in the canyons.
Legalized cannabis has resulted in lower taxes & rebates. This will continue until the rest of our country follows in legalization.
Chicago is a great place to be from!
Be safe!
Good to hear, SCC. The liberal policies have butchered policomg. Fuck then. I shall sit on my hands everyday and watch netflix
...6800 block of N. Hiawatha.
Three M/Bs last seen N/B on Wildwood...
Right now out west, and to the east, recreational use pot states numbering just 8 are putting the mexican drug cartels relying on pot smuggling out of business. This is a great bit of positive news.
Face it folks, weed ain't heroine and it ain't cocaine. How about we admit that and stop playing the conflation games?
It is time for priorities, and cops being killed over some bud is just plain STUPID.
It's a good thing that Obama commuted the sentences of all those "non-violent" drug dealers.
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