Accountability?
- Six Chicago Police officers have been suspended for giving the third-highest ranking member of the Chicago Fire Department favored treatment after the fire deputy crashed his city-owned SUV near Lake Shore Drive in Lincoln Park.
Police Supt. Eddie Johnson suspended all six officers for “improper processing and reporting procedures” in connection with the April 20, 2016 crash involving former Deputy Fire Commissioner John McNicholas.
Three of the six are listed as supervisors, so "accountability" seems to be the new watchword.
No idea if this applies to shoplifting detectives or exam cheaters though.
No idea if this applies to shoplifting detectives or exam cheaters though.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
84 Comments:
Eddie, we need all officers on the street to stop these shootings. Stop suspending everyone. You're an idiot
I'm on the next sgts list, this is exactly the reason I'll be turning it down. Sgts getting disciplined for stuff like this and a Sgt getting fired for approving a TRR when he wasn't present for the incident and had no knowledge of anything that had transpired. Having to babysit the kids with less than 5 years on who act like they are in high school and all dress like they are invading Iraq. No thanks. I'll stick to being a detective, by far the best job going plus I only have 7 years left till I hit my 29.1. See ya.
Was anybody even asking about this?
"No good deed goes unpunished."
rb
Shoplifting detectives?
Accountability only applies for the average person who has no juice....
Or how about this one SCC?
How many Certified Breath Techs have said
"Fukdis!" and let their certifications lapse
over the years?
Once upon a time in our long ago, you could
whistle for an officer who was a skilled and
practiced DUI writer and Certified Breath Tech.
On the watch?
In an adjoining district?
The LSD Radar Cars?
Hell... Back in the day there were E/Ts
on the watch you could whistle for.
ISP even?
Are these Officers being made to "feel the tingle"
because there was no one on the air that night
who was certified?
Just saying...
Now the flip-side is that a lot of Coppers shit-talked
the DUI writers and Breath Techs as misfits and such
who "nobody" wanted anything to do with.
Until...
>M/Fer sitting on the bumper of his crashed/upside-down
car sitting askew on top of two parked cars while crying
and rubbing the big-assed goose egg on his forehead
festooned with spiral-pattern windshield glass from
where he took a header/near ejection as the car did
a barrel-roll when he lost control<
The Coppers assigned to that goo-goo cluster were
gastiflabbered and gobsmacked as to which end to
begin at to unravel that fiasco...
Dude copped to sleeping at the light.
AND... It was NYE so some nearby
dirty m/fers did most likely drop
a bunch of shots at him just because he was there.
"Ossifer... All I saw wuz FIRE!"
Mmm-Hmmm... All those flying sparks didn't help much either.
5 cars wadded-up including his.
Surprised none of the locals came out
to do him in for hitting their cars.
Dude blew a .3xxx so no wonder he survived the crash.
Of course we were glad to help and get a menace off the road.
FWIW... We do hate to see Policemen bent over a rail
like this but it's the current condition and we hope they
come out of this ok.
I new it was just a matter of time... but why six officers? Paper car should've handled that dui... inattention to duty AF.
Poor coppers were probably ordered by CPD supervisors not to process the drunken piss bum, where's a body cam when you need one...
Who got the five days? Who got the fifteen days and twenty days?
Let me guess?
Any fire dept. personnel suspended?
SCC love the blog and I'm pissed that these officers got in trouble for that jagoff. Selfish prick who wrote up people for not having your uniform lint rolled. F&ck him.
Its training not the Officers fault,I don't vknow how to do a DUI..
Hmmmmmmmmmmm..... is everyone going to put under the microscope for "past judgemental oversights"? Because if that is the case, MANY are going to go down.
Is there a statute of limitations or could they go all the way back to Daley's nephew's case? OR, further back?
Funny how some will really get F*CK@D when the clouds of clout are melted and the transparency shows all the cover-ups and "wink-wink-just-take-care-of-it" deals.
Big Ed is being tough. NO mercy.
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
Where is the accountability for that goof detective sergeant from north. Still in the D, still barking irresponsible offers, still bragging how he was unscathed, still directing dicks in wrong direction due to what he thinks and not he knows.
This is why the floor looking to go to rbt .
I can't wait to see if he still teaches at dick school about homicides considering all his antics ands misinformation. Keep it up SC.
This guy McNicklos came on the CFD during the strike in 1980. Was never on any list. fair share member all his time.
Hopefully that fire boss will attend their benefit
Once again the clouted get off and the lowly beat guy gets the shaft.
That's giving supervisors too much credit. What may seem like a conspiracy to protect is actually 3 supervisors that have no clue how to process a DUI. Traffic car must have had time on the end that night.
If they want you to be legit , every time I pulled over a firefighter or any police boss I would write them. Is this day and age Cover for No One except your own Ass!
I believe there was a certain CFD Battalion Chief know as "The Load" in certain circles who was part of the cover up as well...
Shoplifting detectives?
Try and keep up please
Anonymous said...
I'm on the next sgts list, this is exactly the reason I'll be turning it down. Sgts getting disciplined for stuff like this and a Sgt getting fired for approving a TRR when he wasn't present for the incident and had no knowledge of anything that had transpired. Having to babysit the kids with less than 5 years on who act like they are in high school and all dress like they are invading Iraq. No thanks. I'll stick to being a detective, by far the best job going plus I only have 7 years left till I hit my 29.1. See ya.
1/21/2017 12:07:00 AM
I agree with you 100 percent! I was lucky enough to make Detective by score 14 years ago. Never took another promotional exam since. It may not be the same job as it was then but it is still by far the best job on the department. You just have to learn to manage your in box and don't let the incompetent bosses who were never detectives get to you.
So, six get suspended for improperly processing a DUI, but we have officers who have kept their jobs after getting arrested for the same thing? Smh
Anonymous said...
Its training not the Officers fault,I don't vknow how to do a DUI..
1/21/2017 02:42:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What? Know it all Joe and his "special" crew didn't teach you correctly?
From an earlier post:
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Or how about this one SCC?
How many Certified Breath Techs have said
"Fukdis!" and let their certifications lapse
over the years?".............
(Cut for space)
............FWIW... We do hate to see Policemen bent over a rail
like this but it's the current condition and we hope they
come out of this ok.
1/21/2017 12:52:00 AM"
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Good one!!
Whoever you are-you absolutely cracked me up and I'm sure many others with your rendition!
30+, Retired
No thanks. I'll stick to being a detective, by far the best job going plus I only have 7 years left till I hit my 29.1. See ya.
You should work at the Morton Salt company when you retire.
Ha, wait until it comes out that the Sup was one of the people in the room that viewed the Mcdonald shooting and found it justified. Talk about accountability. Cant fire me without firing the boss who approved it.
Short Bus Special Ed is more than willing to roll over the un-connected. How can this fraud look in the mirror every day without puking?
Wasn't there a boss there who said, Let the CFD handle it and do the breath test????
Anyone taking time for investigating RAHM kids weed buy?
Nobody gets 6 detective multiple mission team all district tact officers for a strong arm robbery!
ANyway, a white shirt should have took the full hit thats why they get the big buck!
Take command take the hit isnt that why we make notification?
I see a future where sergeants refuse to approve reports and will hide from crime scenes! or is that NOW.
Take the days, ask cfd to pass the boot around and forget about it. Happens again , repeat. Take time pass boot around....
Rahm always wants us to be divided.
When somebody does a FF a good deed or we get hurt by our bosses we have a party and make the guy whole. Thanks CPD I'm in for a party
Well, I can see the confusion from many patrol officers. I can recall when police officers tried to do the right thing and had the superintendent stick it in their a*s. Politics, especially racial politics, are very strong in this town. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't, depending on who is doing the damning and who from the political class screwed up.
If there were 3 white shirts on the scene, why did they not take charge of the crash site? Did the white shirts and the CFD bosses influence the investigation in any way? Did the driver refuse to do any field tests or did he perform the 3 tests and showed no signs of impairment? Why does everyone assume the 3 officers at the scene are negligent in their duty? Have you ever been at the scene of a incident that involved a exempt member? Hard to make the correct decisions with all of the pressure from the bosses. I sympathize with the three officers.
If Eddie want's accountability, then lead by example. Everyone knows that Supervisors on this department look out for each other, so stop your lying bullshit Eddie. Iv'e seen the cover up happening for 27 years now. Spare me the bullshit Eddie!
Screw that. You find a boss in a crash who is DUI, write him up just like you would Joe Sixpack. Do not put your career in jeopardy because some goof thinks he can drive with Jim Beam in his veins. If they're too stupid to call a cab, 11-501 their ass.
"Where is the accountability for that goof detective sergeant from north. Still in the D, still barking irresponsible offers, still bragging how he was unscathed, still directing dicks in wrong direction due to what he thinks and not he knows.
This is why the floor looking to go to rbt .
I can't wait to see if he still teaches at dick school about homicides considering all his antics ands misinformation. Keep it up SC."
He's still the most knowledgable Sgt in the D unit but u wouldn't know that because you're still writing parkers. Everyone wants to go to RBT because none of us want to handle police shootings and none of us want to be judged over a BS case from last decade.
Don't worry, the body camera will steer you the right way.
Where's the accountability and transparency for Lie-Tenant Fenner Ed?
Never believed in squealing and ratting. But the level of competency in the Merit Supervisors needs to get their due, fair and square.
PO's probably taking the biggest hits for this event over what was intended to save a Merit CFD & CPD boss ass.
Theres an excellent chance this fiasco of an assignment didn't stop at the Lieutenant level either or at CFD and probably no emails or cellphones were examined between departments.
Nice to have an IAD that's thorough and considered competent isn't it?
If you don't know how to to the job, say so to the on scene supervisor and take the heat in the spot, not in court or IAD.
Merit bosses are laughing.
So, who's in for lower hiring standards?
Dont go to calls your not assigned to. Sucks for sure but thats the only way to survive in this shit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Big Ed is being tough. NO mercy.
1/21/2017 03:29:00 AM
Unless it involves his fiance and the wives and girlfriends of his buddies.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
There was no drunk driver cover up. Time given out for no cameras and microphones.
1/21/2017 04:20:00 AM
Worst part is the time is for some drunken azzhole scab fire jerk. If that fish lipped prick had a shred of decency, he'd donate part of his $8000 a month pension to the suspended PO's.
They screwed up, clearly. Blowing such a high BAC count so many hours after the crash, the man had to be reeking. 3 supervisors on the scene, 3 patrolmen, and no one was willing to make the proper decision as to what to do with this drunken city employee? I only hope that the supervisors involved took the heaviest suspension time for the sustained allegations. To the poster who claims they they will turn down their up-and-coming promotion to sergeant, you don't have to be afraid of being promoted, but by all means, if you are seriously not up to the responsibilities that go along with the position, then you've made the right decision. I'm glad that the command staff (including front line supervisors) are finally being held accountable for their actions/inactions. It's refreshing.
DO NOT elect
Aguilar
Bella
Capparelli
DiMaria
Donahue
Dougherty
Duckhorn
Graham
Hauser
Shogren
#Drain the swamp!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm on the next sgts list, this is exactly the reason I'll be turning it down. Sgts getting disciplined for stuff like this and a Sgt getting fired for approving a TRR when he wasn't present for the incident and had no knowledge of anything that had transpired. Having to babysit the kids with less than 5 years on who act like they are in high school and all dress like they are invading Iraq. No thanks. I'll stick to being a detective, by far the best job going plus I only have 7 years left till I hit my 29.1. See ya.
1/21/2017 12:07:00 AM
Same deal with me. I'll be passing when I get notified as I neither want to be a babysitter with chevrons in this day and age. On top of added responsibilities and this administrations willingness to whack supervisors for EVERY little misstep, I'm not gonna roll the dice with some entitlement generation kiddy cops with a few years on. I've worked too hard for too long to worry about some goof getting me jammed up because they aren't smart enough to act like adults. No thanks. I'm in a decent spot with virtually unlimited OT and I'm actually treated like.... an ADULT. And as far as those who will say "but think of the difference in pay and pension!" Well, I already make a lot more than a sergeant including the per diem stipend and selling back 200 hours. I've been maxed in DC since Day One and I have a shit ton of hours on the books (which I also don't feel like losing for some mopes who I have to log daily and hold their hands through simple tasks and duties). Sad part is that I always wanted to be a supervisor, but anyone with a brain can see that it's not all it's cracked up to be as of late. Not unless you're hooked into the 'Chicago Way' and land in a nice unit right outta sergeant school or soon thereafter. Kiss my ass Eddie Johnson.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
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To the next boss listed above. I'll be all to happy to DUI your ass if I catch you drunk.
dumb .. that was the old way ,even years back a Scottsdale CFD person hit a light pole ,whole side of car was smashed, yet was driven to his nearby home, by CPD police .
Anonymous said...
I'm on the next sgts list, this is exactly the reason I'll be turning it down. Sgts getting disciplined for stuff like this and a Sgt getting fired for approving a TRR when he wasn't present for the incident and had no knowledge of anything that had transpired. Having to babysit the kids with less than 5 years on who act like they are in high school and all dress like they are invading Iraq. No thanks. I'll stick to being a detective, by far the best job going plus I only have 7 years left till I hit my 29.1. See ya.
1/21/2017 12:07:00 AM
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I don't fault you for wanting to turn it down, but but in case there were supervisors on scene. Now what their exact roles were in all of this I can't say for certain, but this isn't just a case of approving a report you had no direct knowledge of.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That's giving supervisors too much credit. What may seem like a conspiracy to protect is actually 3 supervisors that have no clue how to process a DUI. Traffic car must have had time on the end that night.
1/21/2017 08:26:00 AM
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The Officer should know how to do a dui. Sgt's aren't fto's.
Nor are they babysitters!
let this be a lesson.. I hope he at least has the courtesy to compensate you financial for the lose of pay while on suspension...what district is his kid in?
I was told anytime there's a DUI or crash involving CFD in their marked vehicle, Their own people administer the breath.
What if he initially refused the test? Isn't that his right as a citizen? What am I missing?
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
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They didn't cover up for anyone. Professional drunks like the CFD schmuck know the game, only SFST of any worth is HGN and unless trained you can't administer. Suspensions handed out for camera/mic infractions.
I don't care what the guy blew on CFD's test. If he didn't show signs of impairment, why would the paper car make him blow? We don't make every driver involved in an accident blow. Is it one of our policies to make every firefighter blow?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
There was no drunk driver cover up. Time given out for no cameras and microphones.
1/21/2017 04:20:00 AM
Duh. No DUI coverup. Why do you think the camera and mic were off. You don't get that amount of time for forgetting to turn on your camera
As a Lt Watch Commander in a ghetto district, I approved many a TRR not being on the scene. You interview the offender and the officer...."Officer, is this what happened on the scene. This is what you want me to approve.... Yah Lt, thats what happened"...END OF STORY. If it all seems plausible, you always give your officer the benefit of the doubt...YOU WEREN"T THERE...If interviewing the offender and the officer(s), as far as you know, thats what happened. If the City wants to suspend supervisors for approving a TRR who is not on the scene, I guess you should tell then GO FUCK YOURSELF....or change the procedure.
Old Retired Lt
To the guy who commented about certain chief aka "the load". A little back story here, dude works overtime at a certain firehouse. The chief shift beforehand informed us that the load IS WORKING OT. So the load comes in puts in $20 for the club for him and his ride along and doesn't throw anything extra. We all knew what was going on. The cook ended cooking prime rib that day just to stick it to his fat ass face. And the guy ended up calling the cook a belly robber. Just a rant from a CFD brother who LOVES this blog and the order will be restored. RESPECT CPD
Heard McNicholas the scab made a special phone call. His old lady is getting most of it filing for divorce. Fuck him!!!
I'm on the next sgts list, this is exactly the reason I'll be turning it down. Sgts getting disciplined for stuff like this and a Sgt getting fired for approving a TRR when he wasn't present for the incident and had no knowledge of anything that had transpired. Having to babysit the kids with less than 5 years on who act like they are in high school and all dress like they are invading Iraq. No thanks. I'll stick to being a detective, by far the best job going plus I only have 7 years left till I hit my 29.1. See ya.
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I see where you're coming from but, I'm glad you'll be turning it down. It's guys like you that make jag off bosses. I'd tell you to go eat a pile of shit...but you're so salty you probably wouldn't even taste it which would defeat the purpose. And please don't ask "how much time you got?" Because to me that's the same thing as these liberal assholes that have no real facts to back up their argument and just say 'you're racist!' 'You're sexist!'
You are on your own. So long brotherhood.
Fat Eddie, sold his Soul and yet theirs still stupid P.O.'s working for him! How bout we call out the officers on the mayors detail or the scabs who worked Labor Day?
"To the next boss listed above. I'll be all to happy to DUI your ass if I catch you drunk."
I don't think you see the difference between stopping a drunk P.O. and handling a crash involving DUI. You can still assist another p.o. when you stop him driving drunk. Once the crash occurs that involves third parties, your courtesy is gone.
The dickhead was driving city buggy. Fuck him and the horse he rode on. He's a scab and all he cares about is his damn self #fuckmcnicolas
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So, six get suspended for improperly processing a DUI, but we have officers who have kept their jobs after getting arrested for the same thing? Smh
Yes liberal troll media. Didn't President Trump put you and your scum bag fake news in place already.
Anonymous said...
DO NOT elect
Aguilar
Bella
Capparelli
DiMaria
Donahue
Dougherty
Duckhorn
Graham
Hauser
Shogren
#Drain the swamp!
1/21/2017 05:04:00 PM
Donahue made $209,709.00 in 2010 of FOP money. So is you drain the swamp you'll find Donahue's 40 foot luxury yacht. Kevin Graham will be in his little sailor's uniform playing Gilligan.
Poor coppers were probably ordered by CPD supervisors ........
You realize supervisors are coppers too, moron.? And supervisors took the hit also.
Don't blame you for not wanting to be a Sgt. Seems they do everything and take the hits. Lt s really have no responsibility except 1 who runs the watch.
Wasn't there a boss there who said, Let the CFD handle it and do the breath test????
IF that was the case...well, we see what those pearls of wisdom have gotten the lot of the CPD personnel on the scene who knew better. ALWAYS do the right thing. If ordered by a boss to do otherwise, make sure it's documented by report. Surely everyone should know how to cover their own ass when an incident is handled other than the proper way, guided by a higher ranking officer's hand. Protect you, and your job. That is all.
No one is winning on this. But to all of you bitching about the supervisors...You're right. When they were CALLED to the scene they should have MADE the coppers do the DUI....
The question is, why didn't they do it before they got there? No one MADE them not write him....Nope...They are pussies who didn't want to hurt themselves or have themselves look like assholes..Instead, they called others to the scene to put the blame on someone else whether they cut him or charged him. FUCKING PUSSY MOVE. If you want to cut someone a break, do it. If you want to arrest someone, do it. Your a fucking adult...You didn't need help, you needed someone to put the blame on if it ever went bad because you're too big of pussies to do it alone...
Enjoy your days off...asshats...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
There was no drunk driver cover up. Time given out for no cameras and microphones.
1/21/2017 04:20:00 AM
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That's odd, because he blew over .08 hours after the incident. And without a camera or a mic, I still know a drunk driver when I see one. Like after he wrecks his car.
And to the person who stated:
"To the next boss listed above. I'll be all to happy to DUI your ass if I catch you drunk.
1/21/2017 05:15:00 PM"
You'll have a long fucking wait, because I don't drive drunk. That doesn't mean I'm "the next boss" - an analogy where you seem to think that there is a correlation between having some fucking sense and being a boss, and if a person exercised such sense they are some sort of prick. With Uber, Lyft, cabs, or taking turns being the DD, there is no excuse for driving drunk. You'd probably excuse the firefighter if he killed a car full of maids carpooling home from a shift of cleaning hotel rooms, but you're the same asshole that would demand letter of the law justice if he barreled into your kid being driven home from a friend's house by your wife. Guess what tough guy? You and every cop with your attitude are what's wrong with this department. And your years of behaving with zero accountability is why you're in the national spotlight and the embarrassment of the country. I know you live in a bubble where CPD is the be-all of policing, but you've apparently got it wrong. Do your fucking job right.
And let's be real - in all liklihood if you pulled me over, you'd have no fucking clue how to DUI me. What, are you going to call for a traffic car? But you won't have to worry about it, because while I'm far from a perfect human being I value the lives of the car full of maids or your family, neither of whom I know, enough not to get in my car and blow 2 times the limit 3 hours after I crash into them. I wouldn't do that to you or them.
And if I ever am a boss in this department, don't wonder why bosses target people like you. Your attitude sucks and you misrepresent all of the good cops that have to try to convince the world that not every cop is like you.
Wonder how high up the chain the drunken fire boss was connected follow the clout follow the money! You know some higher police bosses were definitely pulling the strings inquiring minds want to know! Again throwing overboard the lowest hardest working coppers great job Eddie!
I am sorry those officers are taking heat for that POS.
1/21/2017 10:24:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fat Eddie, sold his Soul and yet theirs still stupid P.O.'s working for him! How bout we call out the officers on the mayors detail or the scabs who worked Labor Day?
^^^moron, the mcscab took another man's job while he was on strike, in an attempt to break the strike, don't they teach anything in the catholic schools
Anonymous said...
The cops that covered up for the drunk driving firefighter were in the wrong, period. Whether they are held accountable is seperate from cheating scandals. Cheaters and shoplifters should be held accountable too. But the fact that there are cheaters and thieves does not excuse the cops that covered up for a drunk driver.
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They didn't cover up for anyone. Professional drunks like the CFD schmuck know the game, only SFST of any worth is HGN and unless trained you can't administer. Suspensions handed out for camera/mic infractions.
1/21/2017 09:14:00 PM
You are so wrong! Probable cause is based on everything after the stop. At a high BAC, the driver will show signs of impairment just standing there, when walking, during a walk and turn. A trained officer will detect enough signs for probable cause. Every recruit since 1991 was trained in SFST and can use HGN as part of the SFST tests. He was not a professional drunk but a high ranking drunk that made a very quick secret phone call for help. Who interfered with the officer's investigation? I hope FOP does a vigorous defense of the 3 officers and we learn the truth.
Scab , Daley lackey, smartest guy in the room .
Hope his old lady takes him to the cleaners .
His kids a copper ?
Bet he doesn't give the coppers a penny , cheap skate . Most cfd disliked him , female probably dumped him by now .
Boy Im glad Im out of this shit. I saw a headline picture in the trib of the shoot em up in 012 yesterday. The little cop has probably made $10 m for the city in his career with his tickets and I bet they'd still stick it in his ass for a little mistake.
What if it were a drunk alderman?
Remember if you have no clout you get screwed,was there a women in the car with him?
you have to ask yourselves.would a fireman do the same for you????
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