It's for Safety - Not Money
- Some red light cameras in Chicago are coming down—but they’re also going up in new areas after an independent study found they demonstrate “significant safety benefits,” the city announced Monday.
The study, conducted by the Northwestern University Transportation Center, suggested the city continue the program after after it highlighted benefits such as a 19 percent reduction in serious crashes and 10 percent reduction in injury-producing crashes at intersections where cameras were present. The city says, per the study’s recommendation, it will immediately extend the grace period in which drivers are not ticketed when passing through a light that has just turned read to 0.3 seconds—up from 0.1 seconds.
This "Northwestern" place - the same establishment with the disgraced journalism program?
So where are these cameras that are coming down?
So where are these cameras that are coming down?
- 95th Street and Stony Island Avenue (two cameras)
Western Avenue and 71st Street (two cameras)
Western Avenue and Pershing Road (two cameras)
Grand Avenue and Oak Park Avenue (two cameras)
Irving Park Road and Kedzie Avenue (two cameras)
Peterson Avenue and Pulaski Road (two cameras)
And going up?
- Wacker Drive and Lake Street (two cameras)
Michigan Avenue and Jackson Boulevard (two cameras)
Dearborn Avenue and Grand Avenue (two cameras)
Central Avenue, Foster Avenue, Northwest Highway and Milwaukee Avenue (two cameras)
Pershing Road and Martin Luther King Drive (two cameras)
Anyone have the dollar amount generated by the cameras coming down? And the traffic volume numbers for the intersections? And the per capita income by zip code where the cameras are going up, which has to be taken into consideration since the bribery scandals have tainted any hint of legitimacy that camera "enforcement" might have.
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
61 Comments:
I hate Rahm so much.
Oh, what a surprise - cameras coming down in the areas where violators don't pay their tickets and cameras put up in areas where violators pay their tickets. Northwestern must have told Rhamacide that only the higher income neighborhoods need these safety cameras.
016th District must have really pissed off the ballerina - first they get the new Section 8 housing and now they get the majority of new traffic cameras.
If the cameras were for safety, then why doesn't every railroad crossing have a pair? Heck, the railroads would probably pay to have them installed!
Thats why it was a private study! No FOIA info but the media will believe all.
I love how they always post the percentage changes when it comes to safety but we never see the raw numbers. How many crashes prior to the cameras, 100 with a 10% drop at an individual corner. I know it's all for revenue, I'd just like to see how many fewer cars are destroyed every year with Rahm's safety nets in place for our own protection.
Once drivers get wise to the fact that there are cameras at a certain intersection they watch themselves. Only reason the city moved these cameras is because they stopped producing revenue. $Money is King!
We've discussed this.
Drivers will modify their behavior.
As to the question on "Which cameras?", that's easy to answer, the ones that generate the LEAST amount of revenue. They'll be moved to a spot pre-determined long time ago.
Crooked Bastards in Chicago!
May ALL Chicago politicians past and present, ROT IN HELL!
Looks like they're putting them where people can actually afford to pay the ticket. Lol
I don't write movers, Suburban drivers have 3 extra seconds on a yello light where they live,This is entrapment.
The 95th and stony camera is a fraud.
Let's not forget all of the emails that were released yesterday concerning Mayor Rahmicide yesterday, those which exhibited private access to the Mayor who said he would never conduct city business on his own private email. Where is the guy who always posts on here about having a link to Jeff Sessions now? If you do have access to someone who has access to Sessions, it's high time you write to Mr. Sessions concerning our corrupt and disgusting Mayor and discuss all of the disgusting, immoral behaviors. A couple of months back, Rahm releases hand-picked emails from the trove of his personal email account. Now, after an FOIA, more come to light. Surely, there are more that are much more damning. But nothing will ever happen. Not in this city.
He's trying to get some more suburban commuter money.
They took one down at Higgins and Harlem. Too late for our family. We were tagged 4 times for completing
left turns from the middle of the intersection. Dummies that we were, it took us that long to route a new way
out of our neighborhood.
$400.00 contributed "for the kids."
Some minds think alike. As soon as I read the article I put two and two together and came up with more $$$$$$$ from the new locations, as people in those areas are more likely to pay.
The camera at 71/kedzie hasn't been on in years. I got a caught there a couple years ago and never got a ticket. I literally drove right through the red light without stopping and the red light ticket never came.
The Northwestern Transportation Center and the Northwestern Center for Public Safety are separate entIties which have no affiliation with the Medill School of Journalism's Innocence Project. They will usually stress that they have nothing in common with the ill fated Innocence Project.
Retired .38 spl +P
I have an older SUV and have a cargo carrier on the back that folds up. I have never received a red light camera ticket, and been doing this for 3 years in a row.
Even if I did get stopped, sorry I just dropped off my snow blower for repairs and, was heading home to take it off.
Screw Rahm and his corrupt red light companies.
If its truly for "safety", the cameras should've been downtown at the inception. Ive witnessed many accidents (vehicle & pedestrian) caused by drivers trying to beat the red. Spread the pain!!!
Foster/ Central/ Milwaukee is a mess. On coming traffic has longer green lights, traffic jams, now add in people slamming the brakes at a yellow light. I need to fin a way around this intersection.
Surprised they don't install cameras at the intersections in front of police stations. Catch cops racing to and from work.
Northwest highway, milwaukee and foster will be a moneymaker because they need left turn arrows, traffic is a nightmare there
Now I really don't want to appear "Rachist", or as correctly spoken Racist, but the demographics clearly indicate that the new cameras are going up in areas where People of Color do not reside or frequent. While they are clearly being taken down in areas where People of Color reside and frequent. Apparently the City cannot collect from residents who do not give a shit. If you notice, there seems to be a shortage of those parking boxes on the West and South sides, but come up North and they are Everywhere, because People Not of Color pay. How have we allowed this City to degenerate to this level? Why do we keep electing people who are repulsed by working people? Shitcaga/Wilmette Values! Baby "G"
The two new downtown red lights will
burn Uber & taxi drivers.
A little punishment by Rahm to the residents of the 45th Ward for actively rejecting Arena's plans to construct several criminal resettlement centers on the NW side?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let's not forget all of the emails that were released yesterday concerning Mayor Rahmicide yesterday, those which exhibited private access to the Mayor who said he would never conduct city business on his own private email. Where is the guy who always posts on here about having a link to Jeff Sessions now? If you do have access to someone who has access to Sessions, it's high time you write to Mr. Sessions concerning our corrupt and disgusting Mayor and discuss all of the disgusting, immoral behaviors. A couple of months back, Rahm releases hand-picked emails from the trove of his personal email account. Now, after an FOIA, more come to light. Surely, there are more that are much more damning. But nothing will ever happen. Not in this city.
3/22/2017 04:52:00 AM
Little ahead of you already on the way as a matter of fact being looked into, why do you think that for example President Trump is traveling to different states even Indiana but refuses to come here? Prelude to something happening! Remember when President Trump talked about barry obama how he informed the Iraq people we were coming and when we came the terrorists they were all gone? AG Sessions and President trump will not telegraph their intentions just watch and see when an operation "firestorm" strikes here with the full force of the federal government all over the place it is coming,failure to plan is planning to fail! "law and order" on the way with a double serving of "follow the law!"
On topic many of the coppers know this most of the fire fighters license plates issued by jesse white are not firefighters nope, many are illegal invaders talked to a couple they said "Like these plates don't get stopped" these plates should be issued to firefighters only,not sure how many LE plates are issued to people not Le, but then again displaying anything on your vehicle LE related is not a good idea in this climate!
Lastly this "insignificant" blog is tagged by the AG office in Washington it is perused for information you don't think the dishonest media is the only people to use this vital resource to get their news! "the spirits of the air" travel everywhere, when the "spirits" influence the correct people the outcome will be a much safer city and help police do their jobs! God bless the police and God bless SCC thank you for always being there!!
Funny that the new cameras are going up in places where people pay their tickets and the places they are coming down are where people never pay their tickets
(OT) would this be for safety:
Al-Qaeda bomb maker who targeted Chicago on fed's radar
http://abc7chicago.com/news/al-qaeda-bomb-maker-who-targeted-chicago-on-feds-radar/1811700/
Are our airports here safe?
Chicago's unarmed airport police told to stay away from trouble in baggage claim
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/chicago-unarmed-aviation-officers/
is this problem remedied yet?seems whenever something gets in the media with police it is a "heater" case subject to a rapid resolution, but anything done here yet? Commissioner Evans anything done? We want safety here, DOA are trained police officers hello its us the traveling public again! I know we are "pesky" but please do the job your getting an extreme salary now please do the job thank you!
The new camera locations are in Neighborhoods that can Pay the Fine on Time and will not go thru the Appeal Process.
This is discriminatory and not Fair to the working Middle Class.
More benefits are given to the south side Residents.
Downtown Cameras will hit the Pockets of those who have Higher a Paying Jobs and force the Working Public to use the CTA
Or Uber (9.5 fingers Brother's Stock will Go Up)
Again the Working Middle Class is saddled with this Fee.
10% of all red light ticket should go to Police pension fund
why doesn t the city show us how many were for TURN ON RED..think when these lights 1st went up the % was like 70%. Got caught by Foster/Harlem on Harwood Hts side for $100. Looked at the video and and saw my wheels move a half of twitch when i thought i stopped. No traffic or pedestrians around.But its for the kids..yeah right.
When they complete that 8 story "project" across from 16, the new cameras at NW Hwy, Central, and Foster will be flashing like a night at the Disco. Not that any tickets will be paid mind you, but it is an interesting prospect none the less.
So in other words cameras coming down in minority communities where people don't pay the tickets any way, and going up in areas where working class people commute.
What they need is a license plate on all the bikes, so the hipster cyclists who constantly bitch about "cagers" but have no regard for rules of the road can start getting tickets. Maybe that will cover some of the cost of these asinine bike lanes. And lord knows that with the money they're saving by buying $2 PBR in a can because they're keeping it real, and with daddy's credit card safely at hand, they'll pay the tickets.
No way you got tagged at Harlem/Higgins if you were in the middle of the street. The sensors are before the solid white line. Unless you are a moron who sits before the solid white line and proceeds after the light turns round red.
How come none are going up in "the community" aka the ghetto?
So true!
Off topic, please post the list for new sgts assignments?
Dollar$ that should go to the Police Budget because it saves CR#'s, time wasted writing the tickets or writing I Bonds, Sgt's listening to whining idiots who either can't drive or speak English or understand rules of the road. Let 'em blame RAhM.
Sitting here watching the news now about the savage terrorist London attacks just said a prayer they are reporting the police officer died from being stabbed🙏! Now for the rant why are airport police DOA not armed? Told to run and hide they are sitting ducks incredibly stupid!
Is this being addressed? The head of the airports the commissioner must take an action if she cannot arm these officers she needs to look into resigning or retirement! $300,000 a year in her salary and no action? What will it take? Ginger please watch the news do the job!
Anonymous said...
They took one down at Higgins and Harlem. Too late for our family. We were tagged 4 times for completing
left turns from the middle of the intersection. Dummies that we were, it took us that long to route a new way
out of our neighborhood.
$400.00 contributed "for the kids."
3/22/2017 05:02:00 AM
'Contributed' would be voluntary.
EXTORTED is what happened to you.
Wow. For shits and giggles, let's relocate police resources in the same manner and watch all the media hacks, politicians and BLM members scream racism.
Stopped Shopping in Crap Chicago ...Suburbs are ,cleaner ,safer , without bag tax water bottle tax ,soda tax, highest Sales tax in America .That is chicago
I heard that the cameras coming down, were taken down after northwestern discovered ticketed drivers were disproportionately ticketed, from a single race, as compared to other red light cameras....Northwestern and the tribune plan a front page story on the cameras being racist.....lmao.
90% non-payment and the contractor stills gets paid to monitor the images, something had to change.
The Ecomonic Demographic is most favorable and likely to pay their bills in the new locations.
It's racist only when you target fleeing vehicles heading in southerly direction. Still, they don't ever pay.
Cameras will be pointed northerly and target subjects returning hastily from work, school, etc.
Drive slow and another Rahm Fail Tax will pop up, like $17 mo. garbage pickup coming next year.
Ain't no pity in donkey city.
DYI: Less than 3 seconds with aerosol undercoating sealer and a spray can extension adapter.
Keep Voting Democrat until it hurts.
They took one down at Higgins and Harlem. Too late for our family. We were tagged 4 times for completing
left turns from the middle of the intersection. Dummies that we were, it took us that long to route a new way
out of our neighborhood.
$400.00 contributed "for the kids."
Took you 4 times to figure that out?
You sir are an idiot
Got a notice from the city saying that 3 school safety zone tickets that I received over a year age were eligible to be appealed. Appealed all 3 and the response from the city was they are not eligible for appeal. The city that works.
Fuck this city time to move
what amount of revenue was collected from locations going down
(OT) Again President Trump was correct he was tapped by the obama crew:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366
President trump needs to lock them up, go after the clintons, the obamas and every democrat involved time for action is now, then send if the full power of the Attorney general Jeff Sessions his entire staff to gut and forensic audit this carnage filled city where rahm refuses to obey federal laws and even goes as low as to take Chicago taxpayers property tax rebate money and freely give it the illegal criminals lawyers to defend them! As rahm took away Chicago police retirees health care using millions to the illegal criminals right is wrong and wrong in right in chiraq!
Sitting here watching the news now about the savage terrorist London attacks just said a prayer they are reporting the police officer died from being stabbed🙏! Now for the rant why are airport police DOA not armed? Told to run and hide they are sitting ducks incredibly stupid!
Is this being addressed? The head of the airports the commissioner must take an action if she cannot arm these officers she needs to look into resigning or retirement! $300,000 a year in her salary and no action? What will it take? Ginger please watch the news do the job!
This incident didn't happen at an airport. Trying to tie your argument to this incident shows just how dumb you are and why you idiots are not armed. Go back to trimming Johnson's beard and shaping Wickey's mohawk.
Have you guys seen the new stop sign enforced camera? it's on the Northwest side... lol
It already hurts
Keep Voting Democrat until it hurts.
3/22/2017 01:46:00 PM
Your pain tolerance must be a LOT higher than mine.
I got caught on one of those City of Chicago money machines, so I had no choice but to take three days on the medical.
I've learned to slow down for the speed cameras, due to having no other way to get where I need to go and to time the redlight cameras, either going thru an intersection or making a right turn on red.
Pay attention to the countdown number flashing.
And yeah the sensor is behind the white stop line. Check out the pavement cuts prior to the white stop line. If there are sensors cut into the pavement beyond the white stop line then the obvious fix is in for cash. I have not seen any cuts thus far.
There is still a redlight camera at Foster and Nagle. Haven't seen it go off for quite some time. Maybe the drivers have caught on and trained to not run the red.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thats why it was a private study! No FOIA info but the media will believe all.
3/22/2017 12:24:00 AM
Actually you can FOIA the Finance Department for the $$$$ generated by the ones being taken down, the paid/dismissed rates.
leomemorial said...
Have you guys seen the new stop sign enforced camera? it's on the Northwest side... lol
3/22/2017 09:02:00 PM
Where is it at?
Anonymous said...
Oh, what a surprise - cameras coming down in the areas where violators don't pay their tickets and cameras put up in areas where violators pay their tickets. Northwestern must have told Rhamacide that only the higher income neighborhoods need these safety cameras.
016th District must have really pissed off the ballerina - first they get the new Section 8 housing and now they get the majority of new traffic cameras.
3/22/2017 12:09:00 AM
Its more sinister than that. These cameras are going up in areas that are heavy City Employee. We HAVE to pay our tickets or we can get Fucked by upper management.
Ive worked in 016 for 12 years and never was dispatched a crash at either of those locations. Bullshit on those statistics
Hi Renee. Good to hear from you again.
Mr. SouthSide says---
"...Ive worked in 016 for 12 years..."
There is no reason to apologize.
Was nice to see the 2 coppers the other day at the 7-11 on Austin 2 Higgins.
Shame you wouldn't let me buy you your beverages when I tried.
Be Safe out there guys..
Finance Bike Guy.
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