Saturday, March 25, 2017

You're Doing it Right

  • Most of the stops that police officers made in Chicago during the first half of 2016 appeared to be by the book, according to a long-awaited report released Friday by a retired federal magistrate judge.

    Arlander Keys found what he termed a “good stop rate” of about 90 percent of the stops that he and his researchers reviewed. “This good stop rate, in isolation, certainly represents an excellent start by the CPD to documenting investigatory stops,” Keys wrote.
Of course, since stops are down 90%, it's that much easier to read all those ISR's. But this report, once again, gives lie to the ACLU contention that CPD was out of control, stopping people who were innocently walking down the street in high-crime areas, minding their own business. And even the 10% that aren't "good," might actually just be documented poorly.

But the report wouldn't be complete without throwing in some racial element - this is Chicago after all:
  • But Keys noted that blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites to be subjected to “bad stops,” in which officers failed to articulate probable cause for stopping someone. Minorities also are more likely to be patted down by officers, the retired federal judge found.
What made the stops "bad"? Was the Articulable Reasonable Suspicion not properly documented? That's a training issue. And did the intrepid Sun Times "reporters" ask how many of the pat-downs were based on consent? We didn't think so.

So we can safely guess that upwards of 95% of the stops are actually fully and legally compliant, just like with the Blue Cards that have lasted over a decade past their actual study time, that STILL haven't found any evidence of racial profiling.

So can the ACLU finally pack and leave town?

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65 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can thank Obama for the traffic study and also thank Obama for the DOJ/ACLU coming to Chicago. The gift that keeps on giving.

3/25/2017 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So can the ACLU finally pack and leave town?"
Why would they? Communists just want to tell you what to do...

3/25/2017 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.

3/25/2017 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"failed to articulate probable cause for stopping someone."

If this is the language used by a federal judge, then we need a new judge. We don't use "probable cause" on the measuring stick as the level of proof needed to make stops, we use in this Country,from sea to shining sea, "reasonable articulable suspicion."

Stupid Judge

3/25/2017 05:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave town???? Are you nuts, they haven't found the evidence yet so they will keep looking. Even if it takes forever.
Communist bastards that they are!

3/25/2017 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It can only be considered obvious that you must conclude that part of the runaway crime on the streets of Chicago is in part institutionalized by the results of activity by the ACLU. They want to talk about the racist agenda they maintain and discuss which groups of people they label over others have been stopped by the police.

Meanwhile, the rate of stops has remarkably declined while the street crime rate has increased. The cause and effect appearance is striking and one that is undesirable.
You couple this lack of pro active policing with politicians who have little interest in law and order. How can you not be surprised a woman in Wrigleyville is kidnapped from her backyard, stuffed in her trunk, assaulted and dumped on the south side three hours later by some dog with a lengthy criminal history of short time served?

3/25/2017 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.

I sure hope this was posted as a Joke.

3/25/2017 06:46:00 AM  
Blogger Jack Trumpblood said...

"...the ACLU has an important job in our society..."

Spoken like a true Hillary voter. I know losing the election must have been catastrophic for you. It's good to see that you have left your corner and put Boo-Boo Kitty away. I'm glad to see you back at your computer typing, even if it is total nonsense.

3/25/2017 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You coppers that are making stops and doing work right now .... are softer than baby shit.

3/25/2017 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU is just spewing more FAKE news! Typical democrat bullshit to change how police do business. It is now proven we do our job correctly with a small margin for error.

3/25/2017 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He isnt a judge. He is retired. He was in federal court, making street stops a tiny poruin of his job. These are document reviews, not hearings.

3/25/2017 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.

3/25/2017 12:59:00 AM

Sure, right,ok.

3/25/2017 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does stopping more white people help stop the carnage in the African American communities?

3/25/2017 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"in which officers failed to articulate probable cause for stopping someone."

Shit! Didn't know I needed probable cause. I've been using reasonable articulate suspicion my whole career for street stops.

3/25/2017 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is that I open the suntimes website and see a link to an article CPD officer hurt in chase on 290. It seemed like a superficial injury. It don't these goofs learn? Where are the Sgts? Did I spend years on the west side and engage in a few car chases myself, yeah sure I did. But people need to learn if you kill someone in a crazy these days the orders are written to hang you. Is it worth losing your job or going to prison for a car chase? Remember the balancing test and stay employed.

3/25/2017 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where are the calls for service? Where is the VRI boxes that they work? Where is all the violence?

3/25/2017 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A judge said you need probable cause for a Terry stop?

3/25/2017 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But Keys noted that blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites to be subjected to “bad stops,” in which officers failed to articulate probable cause for stopping someone."

....So now according to the papers we need probable cause to conduct a street stop, like traffic stops? So a guy needs to be shot before you can stop the shooter, the banks must be stuck up in order to stop a robber, a rape must be committed in order to stop a rapist. Ok, I'll let all the hoods know that the tribune and sun times said they want to be robbed, raped, battered and shot before I can stop them.

3/25/2017 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISR training was poor and officers lacked any support from the management. Why risk thye job with traffic stops? Officers can make a legitimate, valid traffic stop, follow the rules but one mistake on the ISR and they have problems. As a result, stops are down. Remember what Johnson said; "he will help officers that make mistakes". Bullshit. Every action taking by officers are questioned. Even tickets for bicycles are challenged. What do "they" want? BTW, street stops are rarely made in white districts because there are very few beat cars working the district. The majority of cars are working areas with a high percentage of black residents. Stay fetal.

3/25/2017 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the bad cards are police stopping people on an anonymous "911" call of suspicious person. You can't just stop someone based solely on this information.

3/25/2017 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But according to the doj report, whites are the minority in Chicago and blacks and Hispanics are the majority.

3/25/2017 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if a religious type decided to use a car, truck or van on our fair citizens and public servants at city hall and Daly center would the coppers down town just step aside out of the path of said vehicle until his/her mayhem is finished? After all the vehicle is the only weapon being used... 18H squad can you show me on lunch.

3/25/2017 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No wonder Dean Angelo changed the date for the election. He got a offer to go to the white house and meet the President. It all makes sense because if we had the election Dean would of been out of office by then.

3/25/2017 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

[1] >>>> 'But Keys noted that blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites to be subjected to “bad stops,” in which officers failed to articulate probable cause for stopping someone. Minorities also are more likely to be patted down by officers, the retired federal judge found.' <<<<

Once again, the experts, Judge Keys in this case, ignores the 'Elephant In The Room', to wit: Minorities commit the vast majority of crimes. So naturally they'd be stopped and patted down more.

[2] >>>> 'Police critics, meanwhile, said the rise in gun violence was the result of a growing distrust of officers following several killings of civilians by officers in Chicago and elsewhere.'

WHAT? Exsqueeze me? Are these 'critics' f--king nutz? (that's rhetorical, leftist trolls, we know they are). Now exactly what does 'distrust in police' have to do with the rapid increase in these lowlife Gangbangers going on killing sprees? Like say Gangbanger from Gang 'A' ventilating Gangbanger from Gang 'B' just because 'A' saw 'B' driving or walking down the street. No matter where it is, no matter when, no matter with whom the intended target is with, and no matter if innocent bystanders may get shot and killed. And that's somehow the fault of Police???

Honestly, that is truly one of the dumbest f--king things I have ever heard.

3/25/2017 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see any mention that blacks are 6x more likely to commit homicide than whites. Where is that?

3/25/2017 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.


Who would be living in a police state and why them? Ask yourself that question. Please stop making the police out to be the gestapo. Most of us just want to do our job and go home to our families at the end of the day. We don't have an agenda. If you are worried about a police state I think it would behoove you to protest the politicians not the police.

3/25/2017 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put Dean Angelo back on the street for two months. Demand that he patrol on foot in the hood. Demand that he wear a body camera and complete an ISR with a receipt. Demand the footage.

Hey Dean, do you get it that you let the entire blue shirt class down? You sold us out.

3/25/2017 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state

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Your statement is offensive and totally misleading. The ACLU is a law firm. They make lots of money. Their job is to provide big money and connections for the lawyers on their staff. They generally (can't say always even though it's overwhelming) have assisted with the degenerate population explosion. Think homeless rights, trans bathroom rights, 12 year old not having parent knowledge or permission abortion rights, tenant rights, sex offender in public library rights, and most importantly communism in America.

Continue the debate anytime.

3/25/2017 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this rate there's not many more victims left in Chicago for the ACLU to protect...

3/25/2017 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.""

Are you fucking on drugs? WITH them your living in a Gangster State.

3/25/2017 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state

Are u serious troll? Guess the ACLU does raff the blog huh. The ACLU is a joke communist organization that only looks out for their own agenda. Where was the ACLU at last year when Trump supporters had their 1st Amendment rights trampled on by the left? The ACLU is directly responsible for 309 deaths in the African American community last year?

3/25/2017 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said...
The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.

3/25/2017 12:59:00 AM

What utter BS and outright delusional thinking. The ACLU is very selective in what they do, they surely do not represent everyone, only what fits into their liberal agenda. They sue and they sue and they sue and damn the consequences. I think that you shouldmove your family to Madison and Cicero and send your kids to the local public schools. Then you will feel the full results of the ACLU.

3/25/2017 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was interesting in that piece is that in 2015 there was 1,320,000 street stops and in 1st 6 month of 2016 there was 54,000 stops, so let's say the 2nd half was 90,000 due to summer months. That is 144,000 stops or roughly a 90% reduction in stops. Great job ACLU keep it up!

3/25/2017 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who thinks the ACLU is going away at any point, is missing the point. This is all about POWER!These ACLU lawyers used to be those dorky kids with braces and appointments for Therapy with a Shrink, who would come into the City twice a year to visit a museum or their father's law office. They were in awe of the City and the Rough and Tough Chicago cops. They would never stoop to being cops, and having to actually live in the City or deal with the scum that they knew was out there. No, these righteous hypocrites want good schools for their kids, like New Trier and safe "White" communities, so as soon as they marry they move as far from the City as possible. Yet they want to make sure YOUR community is integrated and they participated in destroying neighborhoods with "Affordable Housing Projects". (Remember what Helen Schiller did to Uptown?) Yep, these guys with the season passes to the Black Hawks and Bears are now in power, they and their Black Flunkies control the Department and the Message from Rahm on down. Believe me, Rahm went to the same school as the ACLU hierarchy. And note, Rahm like every other Mayor who speaks about saving the Chicago Public School System, sends his kids to the Exclusive Lab School at U of C, just like Obama did when he lived here. Don't be foolish enough to risk your Dream Home with the concrete yard in Mt. Greenwood or Edison Park, for the likes of Mookie, Pookie or Flaco. Your life and the future of your family is more important than Rahm or the ACLU lawyer who commutes in to the City to exploit minorities. DO NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BEYOND ANSWERING THE RADIO. DRIVE SAFELY, SO THAT THE SPEED CAMERA DOES NOT DOCUMENT YOU SPEEDING TO A CALL. PROACTIVE POLICING IS AS DEAD AS RAHM'S POLITICAL AMBITIONS TO BE THE FIRST JEWISH PRESIDENT. SHITCAGA VALUES Baby "G"

3/25/2017 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you ACLU my job is so much easier now that you have arrived I hope you plan on staying a very very long time
I promise I will never stop a person of color again in my career so you will never have to worry about me I got the message loud and clear!

3/25/2017 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While important to the debate of abortion, euthanasia, and bioethics in general, the term 'sanctity of life' to be used a pillar in the new Use-of-Force guideline is misplaced and concerning. In end-of-life euthanasia debates it is often used to connote the absolute value of human life. It is entirely absent in the body of law that governs 4th amendment issue and the lawful use-of-force by police officers.The term began in th right-to-life/abortion debate in 1951 with Presbyterian Minister John Sutherland Bonnell's work, "The Sanctity of Human Life”(1951). Bonnell's religiously motivated text used it as a basis to prohibition killing innocent humans. Even within the arena of bioethics debate, there is no consensus as to the meaning, role, and import of the phrase 'sanctity of life.' It becomes a highly, politicized phrase to be used as a sweeping polemic against the men and women who serve in law enforcement and whose sworn duty entails the use of force, sometimes lethal, against human beings in defense of life. The police do not live in the world of absolutes. They live in the the the world of Graham v. Connor with fast emerging situations, limited information, ambiguity, and confusion. As much as officers might strive to 'Be Holy' it is often more important for them to just be forceful. Please strike this language from the revised order on Use-of-Force as it can only bring more confusion with religious ideation to a public debate already fraught with it.

3/25/2017 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You do not need probable cause to conduct a street stop, you need reasonable suspicion. I maybe nitpicking but when the intention of the news article is to discuss the percentage of good stops vs. bad stops it is important to make this distinction. Reasonable suspicion is a step down from probable cause, intentionally so.

3/25/2017 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This judges keeps mentioning probable cause is needed for a stop, not reasonable suspicion.

3/25/2017 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Street stops numbers are great they say only latinos and AA still get the brunt of it. GEE WIZ maybe we should focus our study on how many teens are blasting and killing each other and how many adults also contribute to the carnage. Correct me if i'm wrong but id rather be stop, frisk or searched by the police then robbed, raped, etc.... and take a LEAD bullet to the head or other parts of my precious body. I don't get the circus mentality going on here suck up your feelings from being hurt or become another victim of Chitowns carnage????

3/25/2017 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is like a patronizing pat on the head.
The long and short of it is Rahm and McNumbnuts never, ever should've hopped in bed with the ACLU.

3/25/2017 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all those Who say Minorities are targeted by Police,Take a record of all 911 calls where a Violent Crime was Committed,Look at the numbers and think about it.

3/25/2017 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess police need to focus there attention and make more street stops around Wrigleyville, Ukranian Village, Lincoln Park, Edgebrook, Norwood Park etc....to even out the contact numbers(silly)!!!!

3/25/2017 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love the gun turn in program being used in recovered weapons numbers statistics gee do you think maybe many of those weapons have been out of circulation for decades in grannys closet!

3/25/2017 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

American Communist Lawyer Union.

3/25/2017 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys are doing waaaay too many stops. Sloooow down. Don't forget, the supt, mayor, state's atty, etc all have your back...........to put a knife in

3/25/2017 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats are just blowing wind up the asses of the idiots who subscribe to radical, lawless ways of their former leader - borack hussein obama.

Why act stupidly?
Don't Stop Anyone.
Did 54,000 ISR's in 6 months get anyone a tact spot or another period on 2nd watch?
And we all know the answer to the question:
Will these 54,000 ISR's one day be used against us in a civil rights violation?

Try to Stay Fetal more often, it keeps you out of the FakeNews.

3/25/2017 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks....news reported that minorities still stopped disproportionally. All those crazy whites be running around the west and south side popping innocent people by the dozen daily and we ain't stopping them. Can I please get a shipment of more white hypes so I can even out my ISR stats for obstructing traffic, littering, panhandling and other stupid ISRs that lead to zero impact on violence but makes me look like I'm stopping the evil white man as well? Now that I know they look at pat-downs, which I rarely ever do, I'll be sure to throw a few in there for whitey even when I don't do them, just for the sake of stats. Thanks in Advance CPD.

3/25/2017 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.

******

Hahahaha hahahahahaha fucking ❄️❄️❄️

You must not be from Chicago. What Lilly white suburb did you grow up in? Go back there, clown. I remember growing up here, you didn't fuck with the police, they didn't fuck with you. If they did show up somewhere, you don't get out of line, they were cool. Now people trying to fight the police, walk us into lawsuits and they feel like they can do whatever they want on the streets. Guess what? They can. Enjoy your leftist bullshit "jackboot rule the land" conspiracy theories. Fucking ❄️

3/25/2017 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All they do to bastardize the hard working CPD officers its over nothing to see here, will this be the CPD boss rushing to the scene after the judge who understands and tries the law not the bullshit throws out all charges against Jason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NNOrp_83RU

Rahm could of easily after the incident released the video, concurred with CPD bosses that ruled it justified and ended the sinking spiral of CPD right there! But no he paid out over 5 million to the supposed thugs family freely throwing taxpayers money away 5 million that's a lot of money! This total shitshow is compliments of rahm and the 50 with Toni and Tommy in the sidecar riding along with that lost look in their pathetic eyes! Rahm the "truth would of set us free" but you covered it up to be elected why are you not brought up on say federal charges sir? Why are you not brought up on federal charges for disobeying federal immigration laws and throwing millions at connected lawyers to represent the illegal invaders, and these millions were all honest taxpayers rebate money such a criminal act! You are nucleus of this started it all pathetic and costly!

Ahh but then again when you have representation like this:Morning Spin: Chicago City Council member calls colleague 'chump alderman,' takes it back Walter Burnett former felon now acting like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DwZfyXAXI
strange both the same height,shows we have zero intelligent representation!

ahh here it is background:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-making-of-alderman-walter-burnett-jr/Content?oid=5428373

excerpt:

One Friday, a payday, he got drunk with one of his coworkers. "It was an older guy who'd been in trouble before," Burnett says. "He got me mixed up in one of his dreams."

At the behest of the coworker and one of his friends, Burnett drove to Kankakee, where the coworker asked him to stop at a bank so he could cash a check. Instead he robbed the place. Wielding a gun, he hurried out with $3,000 and ordered Burnett to drive away. A few minutes later the coworker and his friend told Burnett to pull over. They carjacked another vehicle. Burnett dove into the backseat.

The police caught up with them within minutes.

"Next thing I know, I find myself running from bullets, being chased and apprehended by police. I'm crying. I said, 'My parents are going to be disappointed. I messed up my life.' The police officer said, 'It's going to be all right.' Lo and behold, later in life, when I went to get a pardon, that police officer wrote a letter and told the governor that he knew I was a good kid even at the time when we got in trouble."

Burnett pleaded guilty to armed robbery and was sentenced to six years in prison. He put his energy into going back to school. By the time he was paroled after two years and three months, he had an associate's degree in political science and a certificate in drafting.

(So now who is a Chump the police sergeant turned alderman or you sir?)

3/25/2017 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nothing like an attorney, a staff of attorneys and former judges reading your account of why you stopped someone based on your split second decision and monday morning quarterbacking your report and decision and picking it apart. Then they get to make a judgement like God, from the cleanliness of their offices and they get to ponder their decision for days on end. Then, they pass judgement on you, a person without all of the legal training that an attorney has, but lacks the street sense and police experience that you have. Great situation.

3/25/2017 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"So can the ACLU finally pack and leave town?"
Why would they? Communists just want to tell you what to do...

3/25/2017 12:23:00 AM

Progressives are just a bud graft of the
invasive weed known as Communism...

A vexation to decent, hardworking people trying
to work and accumulate a little something to pass on to
their children and grand-children.

"You didn't build that."
"Corporations are people too."

And much more silly shit they say
that betray their leanings.

"Let's make some more rules."

During the great Neolithic coming-together
to form communities, towns and cities,
(Circa 10K B.C.) there were those who
were very likely cast out to fend for
themselves.

We'd say they were "Progressives" because
they tend to thrive and gain power where
they co-opt the weak-mind and corrupt the
common purpose and mutual defense of a
community.

Progressives would NEVER gather unto their
own. They prefer being an affliction to
the rest of everybody else.

Well.. At least during the Neolithic,
you could toss m/fers over the wall
for the wolves before they became a
corrosive influence and there would be
nary a peep except for their screams
and wails of outrage.

"We're too important for you to do this to!"

3/25/2017 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you need "probable cause" to stop someone. Um that means everyone you stop should be arrested. Stupid liberal judge probably socially promoted his enire life then made judge because we need more black judges. We are destroying this country. Obama legacy was to destroy Chicago so badly even he doesn't want to live here.

3/25/2017 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call man men and women are the Chicago Police Department get on board stop working stay fetal this is what they want they are paying us to really be a total self preservation mode when you go out "and be the police" you risk losing your family your freedom your home your career your bank account, your blood pressure rising and your health deteriorating rapidly. The bosses this job absolutely positively no longer have your back it as simple as that you don't need a college education to figure this out! The time to protect blue has been here we must back up each other protect each other nothing more nothing less. When you go to rollcall and boss he or she are bellowing demanding activity and threatening to break up partners change your start time etc. But this is fine you'll still get a decent paycheck while doing just what you have to do. It is not complicated to follow the story of what is happening to police officers especially us the Chicago Police Department is under the gun under the bus thrown on the train rails By the elected by the police bosses by the "dishonest media".

Spring is here summer is fast approaching the natives go wild we must protect each other the ghettos have always been out of control we must follow the rules the rules of survival. When you first come on the job you hear about and you see the police officers who are called dog asses but you know why those same police officers make it their whole career know they don't get awards nonsense ribbons but what day do you get is their pension a summer home medical care ability to relocate and their health remains stable. When you retire many people many retired police officer's will wish to you that you receive more pension checks and you received paychecks which means say for example you worked 30 years you've got two paychecks a month the pension patient once a month so they are wishing you live 60 years at the minimum to collect the pension checks this is what it is about it's not about telling the police stories to the dollies at the bars or telling other policeman how great you were or how great you think you are. God please bless The Chicago police officers and always keep them under your watch amen.

3/25/2017 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well FOP, the president should be on the tv, radio and internet hammering the news and department with the findings in this report. What a perfect opportunity to counter all the nonsense reporting and lack of backing officers by management &a the supe. And we all know that's not going to happen with Dean Angelo. This is why we need a new president.

3/25/2017 03:37:00 PM  
Blogger aNanyMouse said...

To 3/25/2017 10:59:00 AM, “Reasonable suspicion is a step down from probable cause, intentionally so” is not nitpicking at all. Rather, it is at the heart of this debate.
When ACLU types, judges, and reporters lose sight of such crucial (and pretty damn simple) distinctions, they reinforce my foreboding about where this society is headed.
If only the ACLU was actually doing its job "to watch over societies watchdogs”! But when they do that job like they’ve been paid to “take a dive” (as in boxing), they invite Hitler-style backlashes.
In the ‘60s, the slogan was, “if you liked Hitler, you’ll love Wallace!”
If the Left keeps stuff like this up (e.g. by twisting themselves into knots to deny the Ferguson Effect, and by whining about “Russian hacking”), the slogan will become (in, say, 15 years), “if you liked Trump, you’ll love his Successor”.

It’s tragic to see the Left commit Political Seppuku, with such sloppy shit.
The country desperately needs a responsible Left, and a responsible Right.
Everyone (esp. most Lefties) can learn some really good stuff from guys like Peter Moskos, J.M. Greer (esp. about hatred of Working whites), and Glenn Greenwald (esp. about “Russian hacking”).
But most Lefties are busy cramming their eyes Wide Shut, and goose-stepping to the tunes of Maddow, Krugman, etc.

3/25/2017 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger aNanyMouse said...

More on Reasonable suspicion (vs. probable cause):
The Supremes held (in Samson v. California, 2006) that Reasonable suspicion is not required when searching a parolee, if the state’s penal code authorizes such searches as a condition of parole.

3/25/2017 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger aNanyMouse said...

By "such searches", I mean "suspicionless" searches.

3/25/2017 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shouldn't the Chicago Tribune also report that close to 70 to 80 pct. of the shooting deaths are African American on African American. Hmmm. Still deflecting from what should really be addressed .

3/25/2017 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to thank the cast of Hamilton who did a benefit performance with all proceeds going to the ACLU who they said do a great job protecting neighborhoods from racist and abusive police officers.

3/25/2017 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc...What district would dean go to if he lost election?

3/25/2017 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You do not need probable cause to conduct a street stop, you need reasonable suspicion. I maybe nitpicking but when the intention of the news article is to discuss the percentage of good stops vs. bad stops it is important to make this distinction. Reasonable suspicion is a step down from probable cause, intentionally so.

3/25/2017 10:59:00 AM

________________

What is reasonable suspicion?

3/26/2017 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has an important job in our society. Their job is to watch over societies watchdogs. Without them in many cases, people would be living in a police state.

Wrong. They exist to drum up business for their brethren (other lawyers). They could care less about the unintended consequences their edicts have wrought and have been instrumental in destroying the social fabric unimpeded for years. They are like a miniature U.N. in America. Naive idealists who are "useful idiots" to the puppet masters who control them.

3/26/2017 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again with the nonsense PEZ and Post shooting missions that sound and are nothing but a mindless game of stupidity. Just another bad Compstat agenda to stop people and have information to enter into the departments computers. So all those house dollies can make charts and graphs so their candy asses don't have to work the streets. Meanwhile citizens calling 911 don't realize we have cars held down on this nonsense and no one is coming. Hey time to dust of my Public Enemy album and play 911 is a Joke as this party train crashes into the lake.

3/26/2017 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"What is reasonable suspicion?"

3/26/2017 05:50:00 AM

Something that is no longer allowed to exist
if it's pertaining to certain protected
democratic voting constituents.

...You're welcome.

Stop no one.
Chase no one.

The Police are the problem.

Police Like You Have No Friends.

3/26/2017 03:27:00 PM  
Blogger Jack Trumpblood said...

President The Donald is actually inviting Deano to Washington to bitch slap him and show him how to be a leader and take care of the police.

3/26/2017 04:12:00 PM  

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