DOA Not Cops?
Anyone want to explain the political ramifications?
So all Dept. of Aviation officers had their certifications revoked?
So all Dept. of Aviation officers had their certifications revoked?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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So does that mean it has to be manned by cpd?
Should open the door pretty wide for patronage jobs. My money is on Aviation department cleaning house and bringing in a half assed security company owned of course by some politically connected hack.
Dont do shit, dont worry about shit. Now these poor fucks dont have a pay check. Fuck this city.
It seems the new airport security czar Vasquez is out of the loop. No mention of him.
It's about time.
Is this part of the fallout from the United Airlines cluster flop where they dragged a paying customer out of his seat?
For something so significant, why is this so quiet?
What has been happening the last twelve days?
What a crock!!!
ok the DOA isnt police, special police and barely security guards. both airports are short on cpd manpower (just like everywhere else). most of those cpd assigned to the airports are elderly, out of shape or young clout babies who know zilch about policing. hopefully nothing major happens here. look at airports around the country or around the world and look at the police and/or military presence.
It means, if they made any arrests then those were unlawful.......Que Lawsuits......1......2.....3....and go! What a nightmare for these poor S.O.B.'s. Stabbed in the back and twisted through. So, the airlines payed big money for having "Police" secure the airport. Once again they see they've been shorted and scammed by City Hall. The Airlines should sue the City too. This whole thing is going to make a few Law Firms quite rich. The ASO's should sue the City and the State Board as well. Ain't this delicious? Good job Mr. Mayor!....
So all the years a guy in the DOA put in as a law enforcement Officer now do NOT count because a politician/bureaucrat says it doesn't count. WOW who gives them that authority? DOA should file a lawsuit immediately.
What is their FOP doing for them?
Severance?
Lawsuits?
Wow! Those guys just got fucked.
Just how the hell can someone go through a police acadrmy and pass a state firearm test And not be a police officer????
WTF. Someone had to reach out to them to start some shit. Can't wait to get out of this piece of shit city, I retire in January. And leaving shitcago. Can't wait
These poor guys cannot catch a break from this city. Richie started and Rahm hammered and closed the book on these guys.
Hey, lets hire another 140 K a year administrators at the Board of Education. The Jag and Benz dealer's demand this hiring so the nice south side church ladies can drive in style in their no show jobs.
They were filtered through the Academy with the new hires. Some of them don't have the education, and a couple are past 40 years old, but hey this is Chicago.
This city is so corrupt. Rahm just disbanded the Aviation Police in the same way Daley disbanded the CHA Police. Politicians are the scum of the earth. They just screw 100's of people not to mention their families. Rahm will rot in Hell for his sins, conscious less POS.
So if a DOA cop went through the academy, was certified, then worked at DOA for over three years, that would make their certificate expired. Not only will they not be cops, most won't even be able to jump ship. I wonder how many agencies will put these guys through the 40 hour refresher course, and how many will be required to go back through the academy?
When the city appointed the DOA staff as Special Police, how can the state training board capriciously state they were not peace officers?
Since the board is appointed by the Governor, with the three statutory members being the Springfield FBI Special Agent in Charge, the Cook County Sheriff, and the CPD Supt. - this is our "pro police" Governor at his lying best. Rauner is another Quinnochio, continuing to give felons early release from the the IDOC. Hope he rides off into the sunset on his Harley next election.
Some of you may not care if the DOA PD survives, but take note how the State Training Board has the moral scruples of an AlderCreature.
Since Dart wants to take over policing in the Forest Preserves, now he can start yapping that the Sheriff's Police can be deployed to the airports. And we know several clouted security firms are ready to sell their services - and souls - to secure a contract.
Retired .38 spl +P
Paragraph 3, sentence 2:
They are certified as Law Enforcement Officers if they went thru academy and took & passed state exam.
They no longer work for an agency that is certified = they cannot act as a peace officer for that agency.
Going forward = all aviation will be security officers =Monterrey or someone other firm.
Now, follow the $$$$. Who over at Aviation has ties to a security firm?
A smart Aviation employee would be looking for a lateral hire from a suburban law enforcement agency. Run away from Aviation as fast as you can, there is nothing they can offer you going forward.
Good so they can't work part time for the suburbs time to hire a full time policeofficer
Here is a crazy thought could they do this with Chicago police officers? This sets a dangerous precedent many of these men and women have jobs as police officers part time in the suburbs now what happens? They will lose tens of thousands of dollars due to this insane move!
The war on police is in full swing get rid of more police officers yeah that's it is the crime rises many of these officers were good people try their best to look what happened to them take a lesson are you officers Chicago police officers that are working so hard this could be you they could take away your police powers now that this is been done don't think it can happen yeah sure!
Now the 24 hour a day seven days a week dishonest media will start chiming in cue The Music.
Wow! They got f****d hard!!!! But I doubt they kept up on required anything. Like yearly firearms qualification, leads training every 2 years, etc. probably all part of some pencil neck's grand scheme to jettison them and leave them with nothing. The city of Chicago really is the worst. They hate their employees. Stay fetal.
Previous poster asked what the FOP is doing for them. They aren't in the FOP, so NOTHING I hope!
DOA officers are not hired as police. Some are part time police in suburban departments, but this doesn't make them police while working for the Dep't of Aviation.
Does not count for retired conceal n carry!?!?!?! Wrong, just plain wrong
Those guys and gals were red headed stepchildren from day one.
Now if we could only decertify our politicians.
Just mean they "aint" an actual agency.
They also have no access to LEADS.
The employees no longer work for a police agency since it don't exist so they now are trained police security guards. They could lateral transfer to another police department and remain state certified.
Their union is WEAK!
Just how the hell can someone go through a police acadrmy and pass a state firearm test And not be a police officer????
Try reading the letter, dumbass - they are law enforcement officers, their employment at CDA doesn't count towards law enforcement employment because they didn't have a law enforcement job.
There'll be zero political ramifications. Nobody except them cares. And yeah, dragging the guy off the plane contributed to this long running controversy. They've never been anything more than security guards - their legal job description was for security guard, their assigned duties were for a security guard, they weren't even "special police" while working, like hospital security or private university security. They were, and are, security guards. If anyone fucked them, it was Maurer, the guy who dreamed of being General Patton.
I've always thought of DOA police as a retirement job. Therefore any of the retired guys were just adding a few bucks to their pension and although not allowed to carry a gun on duty at the airport they would still be able to carry off duty as a retired po. So in my opinion the only guys that are getting hurt here were guys who were never the police in the first place and never able to carry guns anyway. I would imagine as well that you needed a good phone call for these jobs in the first place . S o can't really say I feel bad for any of them, they knew what they were getting into.
Since they aren't the police, then there shouldn't be a reason not to strike. Walk off like New York's airport workers.
He'll there getting ready to lay off hundreds of ccsp because Taxwinkle didn't get her penny an ounce tax. Unemployment is at a gen year low but police are being laid off in Illinois.
This means the agency itself is not considered a police agency, but a security agency. The personnel retain their personal certifications and may use that to get hired at real police agencies but while working at DOA they are not police officers. Imagine if a retired CPD guy got hired as a security officer, same rules apply.
What will be interesting is their status for Retired Officer Concealed Carry. How that will work would be interesting as they are not separated from the agency, rather the agency has separated itself.
All this really says is that DOA is not a LE agency. It also takes away the former DOA officer's ability to use the time as "experience" with an Illinois law enforcement agency.
Now comes the certification issue:
They will not have their certifications "revoked". But anyone with more than two years on DOA and has not held another part time LEO job OR anyone who hasn't held a part time job at another LEO agency in the past two years will need to re-certify if seeking another job in sworn law enforcement. Now that is fucked up.
Start applying to the low paying south suburbs and save your certs!
Poster wrote that any arrests they made would be unlawful and lawsuits would be coming. It's a good job they have NEVER made an arrest. Hmmm, that's because they are NOT a police entity! They are security guards, not police!
" Never let a crisis go to waste. "
Some one should quickly save to a file everyone who works for Aviation Police... cause my wife is related to a Captain for APD whom also related to Danny Solis and Chuy Garcia... this asshole is saying he is gonna be working for streets and sanitation drying a dump truck. So it will be interesting
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They were filtered through the Academy with the new hires. Some of them don't have the education, and a couple are past 40 years old, but hey this is Chicago.
7/12/2017 04:10:00 AM
Just like some coppers on cpd, so that argument or statement is totally invalid! Now though looking at this "decertification" could this start the trend say in this corrupt city-state-county to "decertify" say CPD,other municipalities,sheriffs (Tommy would love this), and the rest! So say a copper is not liked bet on it with this set they could use this tool to get rid of coppers!
The elected everywhere all hold hands and jump on the anti-police bandwagon be careful!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Should open the door pretty wide for patronage jobs. My money is on Aviation department cleaning house and bringing in a half assed security company owned of course by some politically connected hack.
7/12/2017 12:13:00 AM
It is being done as i type, where did you think the young velasquez came from? His connections? $50,000 more in "extra" pay over last so called director! The new guy is being told exactly what he will do and to shut his mouth simple as this! rahm will tout him "I hired a mexican" on his next political poster! Why does the mayor allow all the "black and brown" genocide to happen? Why does rahm refuse to enforce federal immigration laws costing the city billions in federal aide? All about the vote dam law enforcement,and the laws right mayor?
Why also has nothing been done to stop the exempt pension grab,and the mayors guys all retire with commanders and sergeants pensions, no testing valet skills is all you need,oh and the ability to drive huge gas sucking suburbans and tahoes through redlights! Thought rahm was going to be the "green mayor" protecting the environment maybe driving in toyota pruis to save energy,just like the absolute failure of rahms buddy barry for 8 years zero accomplished except to ruin the country as rahm ruins the city all the blood flowing the high level of shooting and murder and nothing to stop it!
And why is "D.C Calloway" listed as a CC? From the time he was in unit 121 in the late 90's where he liked to use the term confederate as he thought it meant racist to now when he is still in WAY over his head!!!
Wow! Has Chicago decided to just drop the "sanctuary city" bullshit and go full bore commie?
J.J.
What started this sudden change in policy?
F.O.P. needs to make O'Hare and Midway a V.R.I. OT option.
Unbelievable, but then again it's Chicago and Crook County. I can't say when I've seen officers screwed harder than this. Oh wait, never mind. It's like a war on L.E. More screwing to follow. Keep an eye on Crook County. Hundreds getting laid off.
They are not fired (yet); they continue as CDA security officers, without any legal standing as a police agency; Just like Burns or Wackenhut security. One thing that no one has mentioned is the fact that the City receives federal grant funding to "maintain a Department of Aviation Police Department"...is the 9 digit midget going to fess up to the FAA and give the money back?
SCC,to answer your subject title "DOA not cops?" No, they are not and never were. Someone messed up manyy years ago and promised cop status and guns without any authority to do so. Then he was fired. What we have now is his failed legacy that (until now) no City, DOA or CPD boss has had the balls or inclination to make right.
This was apparently done by request of City of Chiraq Officials.
They Aviation guys were all at Area Central last week to qualify at the range
What is their FOP doing for them?
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fop members?
I was in 015 and 025 for years and know a ton of great guys in 050. I have this Aviation goof on my block who is constantly ripping on CPD at O'Hare and actually told me," If we get dumped those CPD dinosaurs will have to deal with what we deal with". No offense but I kinda think anyone who has 25 yrs on the job can handle it. I'd like to see how these Millenials would deal with the Westside horror we dealt with everyday or the hideous nightmare of the 1995 Heat Wave... Goof.
7/12/2017 01:24:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What is their FOP doing for them?
Severance?
Lawsuits?
7/12/2017 01:32:00 AM
They're not part of FOP. In fact, I believe they are part of SEIU.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just how the hell can someone go through a police acadrmy and pass a state firearm test And not be a police officer????
7/12/2017 01:36:00 AM
Because, they never have served any police function. They don't do arrests, they don't process arrests, they have no detention facility, no detective division, the list goes on and on. Total hack job, you have to work for a police department for X amount of years to keep your certification valid. This is probably the best news I've heard come out of anything.
So what does this really? It's a letter dated in June and it appears nothing has happened. Are they disbanded or going to be considered just security. Seems it's been kept quiet
Was DOA ever considered a bonafide Illinois Police Agency or Department?
I don't think so. It was created by clout and grift.
Did any Dept Aviation employee ever allowed to take and pass an Illinois State LEO Certification exam?
I don't know.
If they did...then they are Police (50 ILCS 705/1)
Political Ramifications?
Dissolve DOA and a $19 million budget overloaded with highly paid political hack commissioners dries up.
Dissolve 200 union dues paying SEIU employees and watch DNC-Chicago PAC money go down the drain.
Dept. of Aviation gets a stay of execution.
They also will not be transitioned into CPD by proxy.
Multi-faceted homeland-hometown security expert and perennial govmint job holder Vasqueeze is safe..for now (Dart sweating).
Scant CPD airport security remains unamended.
So where does this leave the civilian, non-state certified investigators, that respond to police related shootings and conduct criminal investigations? Again, grounds for appeals.
Just like the CHA CHA police
Not a big fan of some of the actions taken in recent years by Department of Aviation Security officers, especially those silhouetted interviews they give to the media decrying their lack of authority to carry a firearm. However, I disagree with the corporation counsel and reference the municipal ordinance that bestows law enforcement authority on Aviation Security personnel, as granted by the Superintendent of the Chicago Police Department in the following ordinance:
The duties and powers of a special police officer are laid out in the Special Policeman and Security Guards Ordinance of the City of Chicago. ("SPSGO") sec. 4-340 Chicago City Code (1993). This ordinance requires that a special police officer must be appointed and licensed by the city, sec. 4-340-020, and that the superintendent of police "shall cause an investigation to be made of the character of the applicant." sec. 4- 340-040. The superintendent must keep a list of all persons appointed special officers. sec. 4- 340-060. The SPSGO also requires that all officers wear a "suitable badge . . . issued to him by the superintendent of police ....Said badge shall be worn by the special policeman on the outside of his outer coat while engaged in the performance of police duty." sec. 4-340-080. Finally, the regulation requires special officers to:
conform to and be subject to all rules and regulations governing police officers of the city, and to such additional rules and regulations as the superintendent of police may make . . . [they] shall possess the powers of the regular police patrol at the places for which they are respectively appointed or in the line of duty for which they are engaged. Special policemen shall report in person to the superintendent of police at such times and places as may be required by him./ sec. 4-340-100.
So it appears Mr. Martinko of the Corp Counsel's office is full of shit. Also, a little bit of history for those of you in CPD who second guess the arrests of parties at Chicago Airports by the Dept of Aviation.
Over the years, the airports were plagued by thousands of misdemeanor offenses like panhandling and cab hustling. Seniority among the members of CPD assigned to O'Hare and Midway precluded a desire on their part to arrest and go to court with these misdemeanor offenders. The Department of Aviation officers, trained by the Chicago Police Academy and certified by the State of Illinois as law enforcement officers, would detain and complete the paperwork for these arrestees. However, a Chicago Police Officer would "clerk" the arrest report, get credit for an arrest, and the Aviation Security officer would sign on as the complaining witness and make the court appearance. All on the square and ok'd by the Chicago police department back in the early 90's.
Mr. Martinko's letter to the state certification board regarding the duties and responsibilities of Aviation Security is nothing more than a big fuck you to the Department, many of whose members are retired Chicago Police officers. Unfortunately SEIU Local 73 is their bargaining representative and the FOP really can't do anything for them.
Hopefully, this will clear up some of the confusion, especially the cheap shots about politcal hacks, a lot of whom, as your blog frequently details, are members of the Chicago PD.
SCC,
OT but something to warn CPD officers to look out for. Austin Police in TX is pulling some Ford Explorer vehicles from their fleet after officers were overcome by carbon monoxide poisoning. A link to the news article is below:
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/five-more-austin-officers-treated-for-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/70UiUlLgNxAqst1UbFaPdK/
This is just the first step in Rhams plan to take control of jobs. 300 aviation copper, then forensic sciences, then traffic investigation, Training division,
and it just keeps going. Thanks to some of our own coppers who kept blasting the aviation guys, even when they knew many of them went on to CPD and other agencies.
Now they have started destroying even more CPD jobs.
What is their FOP doing for them?
Severance?
Lawsuits?
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They are S.E.I.U.
A democrat hack union.
I work part time for the Park District; we are members of this shit communist union.
They would send emails everyday stating how great Obama was and when he won his second term over 400 SEIU janitors lost their jobs one month later RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
Looks like the Channel 7 folks owe the Police Chaplain's fund a donation...
1/3 of the department are all retired cpd guys wondering what happens to them now?
"Anonymous said...
So does that mean it has to be manned by cpd?
7/12/2017 12:09:00 AM "
Forget it guys and gals, those spots are already marked for special folk.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What is their FOP doing for them?
Severance?
Lawsuits?
7/12/2017 01:32:00 AM
They are not a member of FOP
Let's look at the 12 page airport security study who came up with this ginger the 3 stooges? Let's dissect a few items of low hanging fruit:
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/7.12.17%20Final%20CDA%20security%20report.pdf
Because airports are highly regulated, ASOs are trained to enforce security regulations that inform the various levels controlled access in and around the airports. Below is a partial list of the duties for ASOs.
Patrols airport terminal areas, grounds and perimeter to ensure areas are secure
( would this be unsecured side or airport terminal area)
Issues citations for traffic violations on the airfield and airport roadways and non-traffic citations for security violations including failure to display identification badges by airport personnel
(Hmm issues traffic tickets on airport roads like ramps? If they are not law enforcement how do you issue tickets to drivers?)
Where are you getting the extra Cpd coppers from? Smoke and mirrors again! If Cpd coppers enforce laws will they also be decertified?
Just read it so much nonsense, another failed appointment right commissioner?why yes you are!
What is their FOP doing for them?
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What does the FOP have to do with this?. They're not in the union. They are in the SEIU if you know who they are. Dummy.
They really need to make a Chicago Airport Police like LAX does. Right now we have a bunch of elderly coppers what are they going to do when we have a terror attack. No one is prepared for this. Im not knocking those riding out retirement as airports have been a easy gig. But times have really changed when I travel through the Chicago airports I really don't have much hope should something go down.
Lets see if piotrowski is going to comment...
A BIG FUCK-YOU to Rahm, Evans and Gonzalez...You just Fucked about 250 Ofcrs out of their LIVELYHOODS...God....How I hate this city now......
Blame this fiasco on little Richie Daley. when DOA was first organized Richie did not want them to be armed because the first director of DOA did not want them armed. Little Richie went along with it and no gun policy was put in place. Only in Chicago can this happen. I hope no terrorist read this blog because if they do we know where the next attack is going to be located at. Rahm is supposed to be this real sharp individual. Liberal Democrat's want less guns on the street. but if the an attack occurs you can bet Rahm blames it on Trump and the federal government. A real piece of shit
COINCIDENCE? VANEKO & DALEY SECURITY CONTRACTORS opened an office on 35th street this week.
Well was there anyone left for them to makes enemies of?
Their #1, their #2, their Union, 050's clout heavy Commander "former". EVERYone that matters with their CNN secret squirrel interviews. I think they only got away with it all as long as they did is every CPD Boss was sniffing an easy "retire at 50yo" double dip gig".
Look at the bright side. Its not like they took away the T-2 Lotto desk and they still pay you the same. Meanwhile in the Halls of 012 a certain new LT. is even lighter in his loafers then usual.
""" Anonymous said...
I was in 015 and 025 for years and know a ton of great guys in 050. I have this Aviation goof on my block who is constantly ripping on CPD at O'Hare and actually told me," If we get dumped those CPD dinosaurs will have to deal with what we deal with". No offense but I kinda think anyone who has 25 yrs on the job can handle it. I'd like to see how these Millenials would deal with the Westside horror we dealt with everyday or the hideous nightmare of the 1995 Heat Wave... Goof.
7/12/2017 11:30:00 AM""""
Yeah they got a few like that. Real silly assholes. Things is since they dont have to "deal" with anything, other then waving cars thru a booth, what exactly is he referring to?
Any rumors on promotions coming up perhaps detectives.
The letter was simply a confirmation for legal purposes. It's pretty self explanatory.
The ASOs are exposed to more toxins in one night at the fuel field than most CPD in a life of working the streets.
They have to badge (check IDs on) thousands of employees or pretenders and their vehicles every day.
They're out in all kinds of crap weather just like us.
She seems gleeful to make the point that the ASOs won't carry firearms, doesn't she know they can't carry them NOW?
They have to deal with all kinds of nuts & Aholes, just like we do.
Why bother to certify them in firearms if they can't carry - in case one CPD gets shot & they have to grab the gun of the fallen?
They know how to work the AEDs, I know I don't!
Like the top-down dumbass order "No cellphones in the courts!" before they'd THOUGHT about Gee, people get dropped off
& come on bus so they don't HAVE a place to go put their phones - and NO boxes had been installed - this is yet another STUPID
decision that won't affect THEM but the REST of us have to LIVE WITH!
If Aviation thought Spiro was bad wait until they get ahold of his older Brother the soon to be retiring Deputy Superintendant taking over Reddings old spot. It's a done deal.
Strike then let them be fired and sue
Just how the hell can someone go through a police acadrmy and pass a state firearm test And not be a police officer????
7/12/2017 01:36:00 AM
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Ummmm....because they were never appointed/commissioned as police? Is that hard for you to understand?
Also, they were never appointed as Special Police either. That was put on their "squad cars" years ago as smoke and mirrors. So the guy who posted the whole special police ordinance; thanks very much. It doesn't apply. They were never appointed as such.
Also, the low paying suburban departments don't want them either. Despite what CPD may think, working for a low paying suburb does not mean someone is a shitty cop, or an idiot. Some of us just don't want to be forced to live in Chicago and held hostage by residency. The money comes out the same by not having to pay for private elementary and secondary education for 4 kids in lieu of sending them to Taft or any of the other CPS dumps. And Rahm Emmanuel doesn't get a dime of my money. Neither does Cook County.
Now, where's the super CPD cop who was shooting his mouth off a few months ago about his wife being Aviation "Police"? As was said then and proven now, she wasn't, isn't, and isn't going to be.
Also if anyone was on Aviation Security (and no real police department) for more than a year, their state certification has lapsed. They aren't going to lateral anywhere.
And for the brain surgeon who credits the Aviation Security for "knowing how to work the AEDs" because he "sure doesn't": you do realize the acronym stands for AUTOMATED External Defibrilator, right? The box tells you what to do. The AED is designed so people with ZERO training can use it. You literally cannot screw it up. It will not provide a shock if one is not needed. So don't worry, even without the Aviation Security, I'm confident the public has the AED matter under control.
CPD needs to hire 4K cops and man the airports properly with 500 cops that can actually run through a terminal without falling over dead from cardiac arrest (sorry the AED can't save you from 99% blockage in your arteries from milking every discounted fast food joint you can find) and man the districts with the other 3500. And maybe make these guys actually be the police. You know, not put them in a "unit" 2 months after probation running around in ball caps like a bunch of stooges.
Also there's no lawsuit to be won by these security guards. The burden was on them to know what they were and weren't. The good news is that since they never made any arrests, (they were only complaining witnesses) they also can't be sued for unlawful arrest.
If these Aviation Security have such a hard-on to be the police, they'd have been the police - even for a "low paying suburb" - and not tried to have a cushy job looking at IDs and lost luggage. They thought they could have it both ways. Guess what? Some of us actually have to earn the title "police officer."
I'm taking bets on how long before J. Dillon-Falardeau leaves her spot at the airport and moves to a better inside job within the Dept.
The war on police is in full swing get rid of more police officers yeah that's it is the crime rises many of these officers were good people try their best to look what happened to them take a lesson are you officers Chicago police officers that are working so hard this could be you they could take away your police powers now that this is been done don't think it can happen yeah sure!
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Another DOA Security Guard heard from. After reading this, that’s the reason you guys never had guns and now aren’t even considered Law Enforcement. Should have kicked back and collected that $70-80K check and played Police on the weekends in Dixmoor or Robbins.
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Anonymous said...
Since they aren't the police, then there shouldn't be a reason not to strike. Walk off like New York's airport workers.
7/12/2017 07:31:00 AM
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The City is just waiting for this. Not only shoot yourself in the foot over the “We want gun” shit, but be a pall bearer at your own funeral.
Anonymous said...
SCC,to answer your subject title "DOA not cops?" No, they are not and never were. Someone messed up manyy years ago and promised cop status and guns without any authority to do so. Then he was fired. What we have now is his failed legacy that (until now) no City, DOA or CPD boss has had the balls or inclination to make right.
7/12/2017 10:50:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bingo! We have the winner, here!
7/12/2017 02:38:00 PM
Hey, Junior Lawyer, they're not special police!
Aviation Police do the shit jobs that cpd cloutkids don't want, all good guys I ever met.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
7/12/2017 02:38:00 PM
Hey, Junior Lawyer, they're not special police!
7/13/2017 10:47:00 AM
Hey Gel Head, Go fuck yourself. Go look up the ordinance
7/12/2017 02:38:00 PM
Hey, Junior Lawyer, they're not special police!
7/13/2017 10:47:00 AM
And the Aviation Department also received a waiver on the fees charged by the city for the Special Police commission. Just saying.
Its been that way since 1990.
Short history on Dept. of Aviation: Back in 86/87 I was taking a few Criminal Justice classes at then "Loop College"... My instructor had invited Ira Harris who if memory serves might have been on CPD at one time to speak to the entire class... I know he became Police Chief of the short lived CHA Police Dept. soon after the newly branded Aviation Secuirty position's conception... Ira Harris said that "Avaition Security Guards" would soon be replaced by State Certified Law Enforcement Officers, that if interested apply in person at City Hall within the next 3 days before the application period closed. After applying it was 9 months before I had heard another word. I had actually forgot that I had even applied... 5 months later I ended up being one of the First 50 officers Hired off the street back in Nov. 1988... After graduating the Chicago Police Academy - Metro Program which at the time was only 13 weeks was assigned out at O'Hare. Start pay during the academy was like 18K and increased to 21K after graduation. We served a semi pseudo police function... In the back of my mind I always had concern that with a swipe of a pen mayor Daley could disolve us...After all, the City disolved the Aviation Security Guard Position and we replaced them... It should be known that "Aviation Security Guards" many who had been working at both Midway and Ohare as well as Meigs Field for many years were given an ultimatum... "Either accept the New position and satisfactorily complete the CPD Academy or be terminated... Many did go on to complete the academy but many were too old or called the City's bluff but were eventually terminated stating that the FAA required all Aviation Officers to be Certified. If memory serves the reason the City spent the money on Academy Training was because the FAA Required it and I'm sure their was Federal Funds being paid to the City... Daley was starting to privatizie various City depts. i.e. City Custodians with a company called Scrub. After 3 years we were bumped up to $29,900... Then Daley was being called out on a campaign promise to hire 600 more CPD officers by years end... Because of the large number of applicants there were 3 test dates (two in April and the last test in May 91) After completing the May test date I found myself sitting in the academy Nov. 91 in the last revolver class... Unfortunately, there are many officers, sgts and Lt's who I know personally that are still working their coming to the ends of their careers which now hang in the balance... It should also be noted that Big Changes took place with regard to the "Aviation Security Officer" title, branding of vehicles, badges, uniform patches after John Townsend and Jimmy Maurer took over the Dept of Aviation... After Townsend passed away Jimmy Maurer got into a pissing contest with I believe Rosemarie Andolino and was fired after 4 years of service. Prior to the dragging incident there was word that the dept. of Aviation would maintain an armory and was actually gearing up for this according to a source close to to the Academy range... I think Ginger Evans still has a job because she's doing exactly what Rahm want's... mere speculation I might add...
And the Aviation Department also received a waiver on the fees charged by the city for the Special Police commission. Just saying.
Its been that way since 1990.
7/13/2017 06:20:00 PM
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Oh yeah? I'd like to see that waiver. Surely it can be scanned and posted.
Good luck at JC Penny - they have undercover loss prevention for you plainclothes Aviation Security warriors.
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Wow! Those guys just got fucked.
7/12/2017 01:35:00 AM""
Yeah right up the kazoo. Actually now that they have no connection with being the "Police", nor even any delusion, I wonder if they are going to be hiring part time. I dont want to be the police again.
Several years back a young DOA copper with a bunch of clout was hired by a suburban department. One day this newly minted suburban cop returned to Midway, to show off that He was packing! No holster his pistol in his hip pocket for all to see. A real tough guy cop. While on his visit he shot himself in his ass.
Let's hear more about the airlines paying a nickle per square foot for warehouse space at Chicago's airports. This is criminal and should be on the national news. The FBI should be looking into this shit.
Just to clear it up for those that cant read.... DOA WAS certified as an LE Agency. This letter Dr-Certifies them.
Those that went through the academy have 3 years to get hired by a PD. Their LE certifications are still active.... They just dont work for an LE Agency anymore.
You all need to learn to read. DOA Police Department WAS certified as an LE Agency under Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board.
This letter isnt retroactive.... Its from THIS POINT ON that they are no longer "police" in the states eyes....
Whether you hate them or not.... Under state certification and rules they were actual peace officers.... It was the city that restricted them.
There are a lot of good officers at DOA and to talk trash and tell them well your out of a job is not right.We all have families to feed abd bills to pay. Making DOA in to security jeopardizes the public safety and security.By putting more CPD at the airports and off the streets where young black men are getting killed everyday makes no sense.The CPD officers are not needed in the terminals DOA belongs there trained properly with good leadership.Putting security guards there will be a big mistake we need to keep Chicagoans safe and that's what DOA does.
Just to clear it up for those that cant read.... DOA WAS certified as an LE Agency. This letter Dr-Certifies them.
Those that went through the academy have 3 years to get hired by a PD. Their LE certifications are still active.... They just dont work for an LE Agency anymore.
You all need to learn to read. DOA Police Department WAS certified as an LE Agency under Illinois Law Enforcement
This letter isnt retroactive.... Its from THIS POINT ON that they are no longer "police" in the states eyes....
Whether you hate them or not.... Under state certification and rules they were actual peace officers.... It was the city that restricted them.
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It seems that you may be the one who needs a reading lesson, or in common sense. Even if the aviation security department was certified as a law-enforcement agency, that doesn't mean that the security guards were employed as police officers with sworn statutory powers of arrest. The Chicago Police Department has all sorts of employees that work within it, and that employment does not automatically make them police. Detention aides, for example. The airport security guards were never given a commission with arrest powers. And since you think it is everyone else that needs the reading lesson, below is the link with the letter that clearly states that even under the Chicago special police ordinance, they were not police. EVER. Not "from this point forward." EVER. Do you see the difference? So it doesn't matter where the agency was certified or not. The employees were not sworn. They have no right to carry under the retired officers concealed carry act either, as stated in the letter. There is your proof as to this "retroactive" claim you make. There is nothing retroactive. They were never the police. Period.
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/DOC.PDF
The State Training Board just walked into another lawsuit over IROCC; they CANNOT retroactively tell the officers their time as sworn police officers doesn't count towards retired officer carry. Nothing like another class action lawsuit against a Board who constantly makes things harder for officers. Nor do they have any legal authority to decertify a law enforcement agency; read the Police Training Act.
Also, how does the State of Chicago hand out Special Police commissions to security officers who never attended a certified academy?? The vaunted training Board should bar the practice, since they screwed over municipalities claiming the authority to approve each ordinance allowing for part-time police officers as well...???
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