People Leaving Chicago?
- Many Chicagoans are apparently busy moving… out of the city.
According to a new report from moving company United Van Lines, Chicago was listed as no. 1 on the list of top cities residents are leaving.
Chicago was followed on the list by numerous cities in the Northeast, including New York City, Nassau-Suffolk and Boston.
The report, which was based on data collected from customers of the moving company, analysed domestic moves during “peak moving season,” or May 1 through Aug. 31.
And guess who moving out the most?
Families. With kids. Future taxpayers.
Before the end of October, you're going to see a report from the schools. And that report is going to say enrollment is down again this year somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 students. That follows a drop of 11,000 last year. But somehow, the CPS portion of everyone's tax bill keeps going up.
Families. With kids. Future taxpayers.
Before the end of October, you're going to see a report from the schools. And that report is going to say enrollment is down again this year somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 students. That follows a drop of 11,000 last year. But somehow, the CPS portion of everyone's tax bill keeps going up.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Uline, very large office supply company announced it is closing it's Waukegan warehouse (I wonder why) and moveing to Kenosha......
Maybe they can get Amazon to go with them?
What are the demographics of the people moving? What parts of the city are moving out?
They're not only moving out, they're moving up
Meh, better get some dreamers over here Rham... but in a few years their tax paying ass will get deported too
My Kids attend good CPS grade school on northwest side. Enrollment has dropped in kids classes in each of last 5 years. Some moved out of state. Rest moved out of city. People who don't have to live here for work are leaving. I'm already telling my kids Chicago is fine place to live (a lie. I don't believe that )as a kid, but as time goes by its not a place to stay as an adult . I will not live in this city. County. Or state. And neither will my kids. And yes , many families are way ahead of me on that thinking .
Looks like CPS IG caught them lying at cook county jail.
They fudged numbers to keep high school program running there.
Guess someone was making money teaching phantom students
Enough is enough!
Using TV ads, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has joined up with Preckwinkle to sponsor retaining the Cook County sweetened beverage soda tax. In two TV commercials to date, he has used black doctors named Javette Orgain and Terry Mason to claim it's to curb diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc. among the children, particularly black children.
The very chutzpah of this billionaire gouger. The politicians neglect to inform the public that those most in need are covered by the federal Supplementary Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)-- the Link card welfare holders who are exempt from the this outrageous penny per ounce tax.
These scum politicians insult our intelligence. They obviously think we're all gullible damn fools.
The only viable solution is to escape CRook County and Illinois ASAP. Is it any wonder why the most politically corrupt major city in the nation is also ranked highest in out migration?
OT. Tim Heneghan's 41st ward blog is screen shotting alleged racist posts and sending them to the ADL. His keyboard Rambo buddy Pete Czosnyka is attempting to cause coppers aggravation on the job. Beware of machine liberals attempting to destroy the only place to raise a family
The government officials here worry about everything but the people who are paying to keep it a flot. Highest number of gang members, highest heroine use, highest murder total, lowest conviction rate, and yes taxes / fees that out pace all of the above. The building downtown has out paced people buying them. This place is so anti Police and procrminal. What business would want to put up with all the over regulation. Who wouldn't want to move.
I'm gone as soon as I retire. They can laugh now. But soon they will be begging people to stay.
There number one issue is DACA and rapping down old monuments. That's relely going to make people want to stay. The Democratic really messed this place up. And for all those in denial they have been running this place for a long time. Get real, you have to admit the problem before you can fix it. Most just can't bring them selves to do something different. Look up the definition of insanity, keep doing the same thing and expecting to have a different outcome. The first thing in any rehab is to admit you have a problem.
I'm done and will be moving where I can be surrounded by like minded people. Not fools taxing the pop. That just evil.
They can only lie for so long. This place will really show the affects of bad management in ten year. Cry me a river when I'm gone.
Can't wait for the official Numbers of people leaving the State, County and City. It doesn't take a educated person to see something going on with the South Side. The population is changing.
It's a big country. If you got the means,
split the scene. Don't let your kids grow up
in a shit pit.
Read between the lines; if they can afford to use a moving service with professional movers, I feel safe in saying these are NOT the kind of peoples/folks who move around with their worldly possessions stuffed in black plastic garbage bags. These are clearly taxpayers fleeing "Shitcaga"! And why; After all Rahm claims we have some of the best French restaurants in the country. Though most residents of Chicago cannot afford to dine in those fine establishments.The public schools are among the worst in the nation, with a declining student population, yet the cost of operating them increases annually. $80 Million for security alone, WTF! How many retired politicians stay? Has anyone seen the "Gringo" Dick Mel around? How much time does "Shortshanks" spend in Bridgeport these days? And when Rahm is defeated, he too will leave. And those of us who remain, will pay for the corruption. And those school enrollment figures do not address City Colleges, which even with free tuition for illegals, kids from CPS, and kids from public housing; it too is seeing a Major decline in enrollment. However, they can still manage to take care of the clouted. The "Vice-Chancellor" for City colleges, a former CPD exempt known for her incompetence, earns over $140,000 for heading their Security and Safety Department. Yet nobody can point to anything she has done other than provide employment for her friends and relatives. Add her CCC salary to her CPD pension and she easily breaks a quarter of a million dollars annually! The Corrupt and the Clouted ain't leaving, because like the maggots and parasites that they are, there is still dead meat and blood to feast upon. Please be careful; Rahm has your back. Baby "G"
(OT) with 1 of Chicago magazines best places to live accepting section 8, looks like Naperville crime is a constant:
http://abc7chicago.com/pregnant-naperville-woman-says-wedding-rings-stolen-at-gunpoint/2409959/
From shootings to robbery the crime problem is there also,wonder how soon the exodus will join Chicagos? Another place ruined what type of people cause this violence?
Good buy, glad to hear you got out when you could. Someday this city will revert to the swamp it started as instead of the swamp of corruption it is today. If you think Trump will change anything remember he bought off the politicians in New York to do business in there fine city.
And the twerp murder mayor has his wedding dressed boxed and ready for flight as his reign of savage city winds down...
OT: On a "residency" side note: It's funny how many 022 coppers worry if a 'non residency' clause gets passed how they feel their property value will plummet as only city workers move into 022. Well I am here to tell you I lived at 95th and Hamilton Ave and listed my house and it sold in a week for $5K under asking price (as expected) and guess what? The buyers were caucasian and NOT city workers and the house has gone up in value since my move in March. Just sayin'. On the beach people and lovin' being out of not only the city of Chicago, the county of Cook and the state of Il but out of the USA.
It is the middle class blacks that are leaving, they'll be voting for Trump next. Why else are the Democrats going nuts.
Less people means less revenue from taxes which means need to get revenue which means need to raise taxes
Yea but the Sanctuary city label has illegal and criminals flocking to the city. So what if they pay no taxes, just have to raise taxes on what's left of the hard working tax paying public. The new Chicago Way. Wise up and vote them out, if not quit bellyaching. You get the government you deserve the choice is in your hands.
City will never give up living in city rule for city employees. They might be the only ones left that actually pay taxes. Someone has to pay for all the fat pensions the city allows. Most corporations have canceled pensions and gone to a 401 program but not the local and federal governments. Stick it to the taxpayers again. As for medical coverage after retirement, again with most corporations that is a thing of the past. You retire and have to get your own supplemental policies and pay out of pocket. That is the real world for most taxpayers.
Off Topic : What happened to the Court decision about retirement Insurance ?? Never heard of the RESCHEDULED Court date or the outcome ???
The Emanuel spin machine is heralding that 'people are moving to Chicago in record numbers!!!'
It's all about his image...
I retired and we moved out. May God bless you that remain
Instead of CPS teachers being instructed to education 'children' about the dangers of soda pop leading to obesity, teeth disease, heart failure, diabetes, etc. - we must teach them about the evil CPD and the Burge calamity.
Anonymous said...
Looks like CPS IG caught them lying at cook county jail.
They fudged numbers to keep high school program running there.
Guess someone was making money teaching phantom students
9/13/2017 12:51:00 AM
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Didn't a former CPD civilian law instructor leave CPD to go teach at CCJ?
retired a few years ago, then left Illinois for another state....for those stuck in Chicago, get your families/children out......somewhere, anywhere......
Rahm will fill the gap with illegal aliens.
Fewer kids for the CPS to ruin. But they need more money? Building new schools with declining enrollment makes perfect Democratic sense. Its not their money they are spending its yours. Time to say no, this contrary to all signs is not a dictatorship, you can vote them out. But hurry the tax payers are leaving and soon all you will have left is the gimme group. You know who they will support.
You could add two more tax paying law abiding people to the list leaving the swamp soon.
DemocRATic Hypocrisy and Greed said...
Enough is enough!
Using TV ads, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has joined up with Preckwinkle to sponsor retaining the Cook County sweetened beverage soda tax. In two TV commercials to date, he has used black doctors named Javette Orgain and Terry Mason to claim it's to curb diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc. among the children, particularly black children.
The very chutzpah of this billionaire gouger. The politicians neglect to inform the public that those most in need are covered by the federal Supplementary Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)-- the Link card welfare holders who are exempt from the this outrageous penny per ounce tax.
These scum politicians insult our intelligence. They obviously think we're all gullible damn fools.
The only viable solution is to escape CRook County and Illinois ASAP. Is it any wonder why the most politically corrupt major city in the nation is also ranked highest in out migration?
9/13/2017 01:04:00 AM
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These paid doctors claim soda causes the obesity related diseases but fail to mention that a sedimentary life style which includes sitting, playing video games hours on end does more to cause obesity than drinking one can of soda a day. What about the bags of flaming hots, pizza, fries, nachos with that melted stuff they call cheese? What's sad is that there are voters gullible enough to believe this crap.
FOX 32 news leads with a story of an elderly woman being robbed in Lincoln Park and gives the description of the offenders as two twelve to fourteen year old boys. NO mention of race. Figure it out!
Dumb Question. If everyone is leaving,why are the expressways filled ? Why is every street, filled with traffic going in both directions ? Just asking.
Chicago...an old Indian word for shithole.
(OT) Are we ready for these terrorist that the elected here are not objecting to coming here to destroy and hurt innocent people?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/antifa-throws-smoke-and-projectiles-at-police-at-portland-rallies-7-arrested.html
It's mostly white, taxpaying, law-abiding,
right thinking, decent and upright people
who are fleeing Rahm al-Ghoul's progressive
cuckold/catered-to constituency/armed wing
of Dude Inc. utopia that is Chicago...
But The Police, ARE what's wrong with Chicago
if any credence is put into the City Hall media
propaganda apparatus.
Right?
Meanwhile, Rahm is busily manufacturing bullshit
sound bites and teasers about all these so called
corporations that are going to bring in their HQs
and multiple thousands of six-figure earning employees
who are going to allegedly nest in those shiny new
residential sky scrapers sprouting all through downtown.
The new and naive are supposed to flock to Rahm's
high tax, punitive fine and fee utopia to be plugged
into the slots vacated by the free-thinking people
who are seeing through Rahm's bullshit and are
getting the fuck out and taking their treasure with.
Rahm needs these people to fund the "free shit"
that is part of his relentless pandering to a
demographic subset that contributes nothing but
shit, grief and misery.
They serve faithfully as Rahm's reliable voting bloc
and foot soldiers who serve as a check at the ballot
box against decent and upright people actually seizing
the levers of governance and the keys to the municipal
treasury and casting Rahm out to where he has access
to neither...
"We don't understand why you guys on that blog
can be so full of anger and hatred! It makes us
not trust you."
Imagine the flood of taxpayers leaving if city workers got to live outside the city. This town is finished. Once the Libtards neutralized the police it was all over.
When schools get their actual dollar amounts based the number of kids butts in seat for x number of days and even y number of hours to qualify as a day, the more butts that aren't in the seats means the higher that tax bill needs to go to cover the butt losses.
heck of a situation eh? Get more kids and have schools busting at the seems, then get more loot- costs taxpayers more. Lose population and the bill taxpayers get STILL manages to go up.
It is almost like it is a racket or something.
Interestingly, we see the same thing happening with policing.
More cops or less, more crime of less, the bill to taxpayers keeps going up regardless.
Punched out of this crashing airplane seven years ago and never looked back. The things I miss about Chicago do not outweigh the risk in even visiting this out of control crook paradise. Used to live in what, at the time, I referred to as the Green Zone. Now with homicides, mugging, and other "youth" shenanigans in the shadow of the building where I lived a common occurrence, leaving was the smart thing to do. Safety is paramount to me and with the declining quality of life coupled with increasing expenses the choice was a no-brainer.
Handwriting on the wall, people!
I wonder how many are moving north....like Canada north?
Rahm's Feral Democrat Chicago Illinois co-managed by Prunewrinkle and represented nationally by Turbin Durbin, DuckWorthless & Little Louie GutterRat.
This State has nothing to show with nothing to offer the taxpayer.
It will be driven into the ground by the violence and consumed by the jobless freeloading, handout seeking refugee.
Crime is being allowed to spread into the last remaining 2 corners of the map.
They'll probably raise taxes on moving companies before all the taxpayers are gone.
J.J.
Why oh why would people not want to live in the sanctuary paradise that is Chicago?
So what if half the city is a free fire zone, the court system winks at criminality, the school system is bad, and taxes are high. After all you still have Chicago Values.
What the politicians need to do is raise taxes and raise them seriously high, especially property and sales taxes and then put fee on anything and everything.
After all it takes money, lots of money to maintain and further Chicago Values.
Someday all working Chicagoans will wake up--when the city resembles Detroit or some middle Eastern cesspool --only to realize it is too late.
Think I will now go to the Chic Fil A and contemplate about Chicago Values.
ex Marquette Park person and glad I left.
Escape madiganistan.... Guess I'm not the only one who heeded the advice
Well, well, well. Maybe the subjects aren't as stupid as Rahmbo and Prickwikle think they are.
The Producers are on to the scheme of the Looters. Soon, all that will be left will be Moochers and the Looters will have nothing to loot.
Who is John Galt?
Doesn't matter how many people are leaving major corporations are moving to this city more than anywhere else in the country. Either through bribes or tax incentives someone is doing something to get them here.
Anonymous said...
(OT) with 1 of Chicago magazines best places to live accepting section 8, looks like Naperville crime is a constant:
http://abc7chicago.com/pregnant-naperville-woman-says-wedding-rings-stolen-at-gunpoint/2409959/
From shootings to robbery the crime problem is there also,wonder how soon the exodus will join Chicagos? Another place ruined what type of people cause this violence?
9/13/2017 05:32:00 AM
True looks like the idiotic elected in Naperville are destroying this once great area the bigger question which campaign account got paid?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/news/ct-nvs-naperville-council-housing-vouchers-st-1007-20161005-story.html
Don't wait till you have a family to move out, get out while you're single. Better, more normal girls in the suburbs.
(OT) with 1 of Chicago magazines best places to live accepting section 8, looks like Naperville crime is a constant:
http://abc7chicago.com/pregnant-naperville-woman-says-wedding-rings-stolen-at-gunpoint/2409959/
From shootings to robbery the crime problem is there also,wonder how soon the exodus will join Chicagos? Another place ruined what type of people cause this violence?
Only difference is Dupage county actually sentences criminals to real prison time. That drives these criminals back to cool county. In a quick example I had an encounter with a fellow who said he just got out of jail in Dekalb county...he had to do 180 days on a suspended license...he told me he was never leaving cook county again.
Chicago will be Detroit in a few years.
Hopefully the people leaving have wised up to how stupid it is to keep voting Democrat, and won't simply bring the madness wherever they re-settle.
You know, as a kid I always wondered how huge cities like Macchu Picchu and Angkor Wat could be utterly abandoned. It seemed so weird to think of people just walking away from anything so large and magnificent. I'm starting to see how it happens. Human blight moves in and everybody else moves out. Sometimes the only answer is to walk away and let the jungle have it.
Someday archaeologists will study Chicago and hypothesize over how it fell too.
I have relatives in Minneapolis, but that city is run by a bunch of Marxists as well.
I thought Chicago was turning the corner in a positive way in the early 1980s, but it's been on a negative slide now for years.
I'm CFD and a big fan of SCC, came on the job in 1990 with another 100 or so people, don't know a single one of them planning on staying in Illinois when we start to retire next year with 29 and a day...NOT A SINGLE ONE!
Alderman Napalitano, please quilt whining like most democrats. That's how Trump won.
Love the section 8 in Naperville. Better there than in Edgewood, sorry guess they will get their turn to host the 8 vermin.
2017 has been a disaster for the NW side. Bag tax, soda tax, Arena housing project, CPS antipolice programs have spooked lots of normies, not just city workers. All are planning escape but are afraid to tell neighbors ahead of time. Everyone wants to be first, not last out......
Not long before only ones left in city will be city employees forced to live there. Don't get your hopes about breaking residency in new contract. City cannot afford to let your tax base leave. You will continue to be held hostage. Someone has to pay for all the stupid pension they negoated. Should stop all lesion rights and go to a 401k program. Private industry has adopted this model. The city and state are broke and will not meet their pension obligations. Can you spell Detroit?
Stopping the pension double dipping would be a good place to start.
Anyone with half a brain and the means is leaving this dump. Cost of living is outrageous; taxes, fees, permits, red light/speed cameras everywhere. And the few things that are free and attractive like the lakefront and parks have become infested with ghetto assholes who either ruin the experience with their natural ignorance and ill mannered character, or just lurk around for another victim to rob, rape, or beat.
OT Article in today's Nadig Newspaper, The Press, (northwest side) 13 Sep 17. (45th Ward Alderman) "Arena's office sends allegations of racists posts by police officers to civil rights group." Both his office and the Anti-Defamation League refused coment on his allegations. The article also refers to comments on the posts in the Second City Cop blog. Arena is modeling himself after Mayor Bolshevik Bill DeBlasio of NYC as a SJW. And because he spends his time living the socialist dream he is inept providing services for the ward. Try calling his office it's useless.
OT) Lincoln park ravaged by crime but the lemmings will continue electing democrats:
80-Year-Old Woman Knocked Down, Robbed In Lincoln Park, Police Say
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170913/lincoln-park/80-year-old-woman-knocked-down-robbed-lincoln-park-police-say?utm_source=Crime+%26+Mayhem&utm_campaign=dc5d569105-Mailchimp-CHI&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cb6facd782-dc5d569105-177427849
Lincoln Square Rattled By Armed Robbery Spree
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170913/lincoln-square/armed-robbery-spree-campbell-leland-giddings-caps-meeting?utm_source=Crime+%26+Mayhem&utm_campaign=dc5d569105-Mailchimp-CHI&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cb6facd782-dc5d569105-177427849
Leaving this economic beauty of a City? Impossible!!!
Just look at all of the new high rise construction going on Downtown in 001 and 018! Someone must be planning for a huge influx of democrats dumb enough to move here! Multi-unit condos starting in the $400K range.
I guess when they can't get a buyer, there's always Sec-8! Why not! Uncle Sam is always going to pay that bill! Have fun living Downtown next to the ghetto mutts.
Looks like the "New and Improved" Robert Taylor will be at 1200 S Indiana with beautiful views of the Lake and Grant Park.
Bloomberg will hopefully foot the bill for some quality advertising space.
Central Business District will only get worse. Homicides, Agg Batts, Armed & Strong Armed Robberies, (A)CSA's... Crimes against Taxpayers & Tourists will only increase.
Pay very close attention to what happened to Detroit, (as in the ACTUAL HISTORY, not the Liberal version of History where it gets re-written) because it's only a matter of WHEN (not if) it happens to Chicago.
Close schools build new schools total incompetence in action.
Bunch of Drunks in city council people have had it.
Best day of my life was leaving CPD and the city of Chicago. I highly suggest more people do it. Plenty of other departments out there. After 6 years I left, no idea how you guys manage to stick it out.
--- Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the demographics of the people moving?---
If you're using United Van Lines = good chance that the move is paid by the company and 100% chance that the mover is a net contributor to the tax base.
TO the last non-moocher to leave Chicago-- don't forget to toss in some extra lighter fluid and light the match on this cesspool.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the demographics of the people moving?
Anyone using United Van Lines = 100% chance that the mover is a net contributor to the tax base.
To the last non-moocher to leave the city----don't forget to toss in some extra lighter fluid and light a match before you leave.
My co workers use to try telling me I would regret leaving CPD for another department. Been gone two years, no regrets on my part. Better department, better area and better house.
Not dealing with all things Chicago is a great thing. Once you leave you see how awful CPD actually is.
you goof want to leave Chicago ill. why move to florida, and Houston, tx im not saying Chicago,ill is not perfect , but its better than gary,in.
Our house just went on the market yesterday; we are moving to Kenosha before the end of the year.
We're empty nesters, so it's no longer a question of schools. More a question of "get out of Illinois before the state goes completely down the toilet."
Going to miss our neighborhood and our parish, true. But we'll find another.
With taxes and fees your total tax commitment in Canada is 55-65%. Healthcare is mediocre at best. Do your homework.
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I wonder how many are moving north....like Canada north?
Detroit public schools lost 50% of their students over a 10-year period. In that same period their budget tripled.....same shit with CPS so why isn't anyone asking why the budget continues to balloon while enrollment plunges? 2/3rds of every real estate tax bill goes to precious schools who are beyond reproach but if they serve far less students...why would expenses continue to climb? absurd
No shit.......
We packed up (kids included) and moved to the south burbs...Was in the testing process for CPD until I removed myself from the process. Apparently I applied while drunk. During the home interview my BI, retired CPD, said, "why would you move from here and back to the shitty city to work for them." As a former Trooper turned business owner, it is sad to see The LE professional, CPD, and Chicago being ruined by liberal anti-police politicians. Our next move is out of the state. Until then, we shop in Indiana for almost everything...including the dangerous obesity causing sugar filled liquid beverages.
Every additional day I stay here feels closer to getting killed. Speaking of criminal's, there's a new Chicago ID for those with criminal background's, illegal aliens, and homeless people.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FOX 32 news leads with a story of an elderly woman being robbed in Lincoln Park and gives the description of the offenders as two twelve to fourteen year old boys. NO mention of race. Figure it out!
9/13/2017 09:07:00 AM
Same with ABC...... Victim says it was young boys.......
It be racist to mention they were black......
Will the last productive taxpayer to leave Shitcongo please turn out the lights before ComEd has to send a collector?
Anonymous said...
2017 has been a disaster for the NW side. Bag tax, soda tax, Arena housing project, CPS antipolice programs have spooked lots of normies, not just city workers. All are planning escape but are afraid to tell neighbors ahead of time. Everyone wants to be first, not last out......
9/13/2017 01:27:00 PM
Of course people are sneaking out. Once the panic sets in and the mad rush for the exit begins, people run the risk of ending up like the poor souls at the 2:00 mark of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY59mR44TLs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This was unique among nightclub disasters, in that it was filmed LIVE as it happened. One of the owners of the nightclub was a reporter at WPRI, who thought a piece on nightclub safety would be timely and topical, since this took place only a few days after the stampede at the E2 nightclub in town that killed 21 people back in 2003.
In a way, he was right. This certainly raised awareness about nightclub safety. 96 people were killed within the time span of an average commercial break, with another 4 dying in the weeks and months following. This is a pretty tough video to watch.
Just wait. Chicago will soon implement an exit tax like Oak Lawn, they charge 1% of the house sale price.
I retired before I thought I would. Had to flee the fucked up CPD and the overtaxed, free thug roaming, sanctuary city, shit hole Chiraq! Moved out of Crook County to the peaceful, sedate burbs. Beautiful mature trees, streams, quiet, friendly folks, were most actually like the Police. You will not regret it!! Don't miss Shitcago in any way! My stress level has plummeted and my family and I are so thrilled! Get out a.s.a.p! You will have no regrets!!
(OT) photo just released of the animals that beat the 80 year old woman again its a "black problem" not racism reality:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-woman-80-robbed-lincoln-park-20170913-story.html
Lincoln park high taxes little police service rahm had taken police and thrown them into the ghetto and the lemmings say nothing no protests nothing
"Not long before only ones left in city will be city employees forced to live there. Don't get your hopes about breaking residency in new contract. City cannot afford to let your tax base leave. You will continue to be held hostage. Someone has to pay for all the stupid pension they negoated. Should stop all lesion rights and go to a 401k program. Private industry has adopted this model. The city and state are broke and will not meet their pension obligations. Can you spell Detroit?"
While true, even if we were to switch to a 401K type, would the city actually pay what they pledge? Most companies that have 401k options pay a little bit into the whole system, and it's obviously deductible. Would the city actually pay? If so, they are on the hook for something, which is pretty much the same as a pension. All of the keyboard warriors who bash public pensions don't want you to know that though. Instead, even though their private sector companies pay them X to perform X services, and X plus X in contributions, they have a hard time understanding that a public pension is basically the same thing, except that they sit behind a desk - hedging bets - while you are out in the "community" taking care of Consituents.
TIME
"Time is the coin of your
life. It is the only coin
you have, and only you
can determine how it
will be spent. Be careful
lest you let other people
spend it for you."
Carl Sandburg
Actually Democrats cheer white middle class flight to be replaced by New Democrat voters. See video:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/01/calexit-leader-replace-middle-class-with-immigrants-video/
Last month I ran down to Chicago from Minnesota to get the last load of stuff from our family home as we prepared to sell it.
This task would require the rental of a U Haul trailer.
As I hit Madison Wisconsin I called the large U Haul facility nearest to my family home with the expectation of swinging by on the way in and picking one up. There were none available.
I had a few hours to go on my drive so I started working the phone looking for a trailer. There were none available in the city or any surrounding suburbs.
Thinking on my feet I called Rockford Illinois. There was one trailer available. Only one. I secured the reservation.
When I arrived to pick up my trailer I asked the guy behind the counter why it had been so difficult to find a trailer. I assumed because it was the last day of the month and perhaps kids were moving into college housing...
"Nope" the gruff ex Berwyn cop explained, "Everybody is moving out of Illinois" we don't have inventory; it's all out of state.
Good luck with that whole soda pop tax thing. I'll be up here fishing.
The always informative & protective local media states that the 80 year old Lincoln Park lady who was pushed to the ground & robbed of her purse was confronted by 'kids,' then it's 'children.' Who wants to stay in a city that gives no description of offenders to watch out for? Surely that's store security footage somewhere in Lincoln Park with a photo of these apple-cheeked youths. (If the offender is White, videos/photos are immediately shown. Don't want to offend/stereotype what is already true/imflame sensivities in this city.) This city wants your taxes, but could care less for your safety.
I keep telling you boys and girls. ARKANSAS is the answer..... Retired in 2004 with 31 years and left for Mountain Home , AR. with in a month of retirement. Get out as soon as you can. Retirement is great in the right place and Chicago is not that place. We have very low crime, great people from all over the country and NO LOW INFORMATION VOTERS... and thats the MAIN REASON for getting out of Chicago. Down here we dont feel terrible about " RAISING OUR CHILDREN " ,Teaching them right from wrong ( Looting, robbing, killing each other IS WRONG FOLKS) you know ,basic civility
Retire and leave Chicago, Convince mama that its only a 8 hour ride back to see the Grown Children at Christmas and such and its a Million Miles away from all the stuff we had deal with our whole careers.
Last month I ran down to Chicago from Minnesota to get the last load of stuff from our family home as we prepared to sell it.
This task would require the rental of a U Haul trailer.
As I hit Madison Wisconsin I called the large U Haul facility nearest to my family home with the expectation of swinging by on the way in and picking one up. There were none available.
I had a few hours to go on my drive so I started working the phone looking for a trailer. There were none available in the city or any surrounding suburbs.
Thinking on my feet I called Rockford Illinois. There was one trailer available. Only one. I secured the reservation.
When I arrived to pick up my trailer I asked the guy behind the counter why it had been so difficult to find a trailer. I assumed because it was the last day of the month and perhaps kids were moving into college housing...
"Nope" the gruff ex Berwyn cop explained, "Everybody is moving out of Illinois" we don't have inventory; it's all out of state.
Good luck with that whole soda pop tax thing. I'll be up here fishing.
I better sell my house tomorrow and get out of town before Chicago becomes a deserted town
Last month I ran down to Chicago from Minnesota to get the last load of stuff from our family home as we prepared to sell it.
This task would require the rental of a U Haul trailer.
As I hit Madison Wisconsin I called the large U Haul facility nearest to my family home with the expectation of swinging by on the way in and picking one up. There were none available.
I had a few hours to go on my drive so I started working the phone looking for a trailer. There were none available in the city or any surrounding suburbs.
Thinking on my feet I called Rockford Illinois. There was one trailer available. Only one. I secured the reservation.
When I arrived to pick up my trailer I asked the guy behind the counter why it had been so difficult to find a trailer. I assumed because it was the last day of the month and perhaps kids were moving into college housing...
"Nope" the gruff ex Berwyn cop explained, "Everybody is moving out of Illinois" we don't have inventory; it's all out of state.
Good luck with that whole soda pop tax thing. I'll be up here fishing.
I must be the luckiest guy in Chicago. Last month I called Uhaul for a truck to take my kid back to to college and he asked what size truck did I need. Talk about being lucky
"Not long before only ones left in city will be city employees forced to live there. Don't get your hopes about breaking residency in new contract. City cannot afford to let your tax base leave. You will continue to be held hostage. Someone has to pay for all the stupid pension they negoated. Should stop all lesion rights and go to a 401k program. Private industry has adopted this model. The city and state are broke and will not meet their pension obligations. Can you spell Detroit?"
You are not seriously comparing Chicago with Detroit. Detroit was half abandoned buildings with no tax basis. Right now downtown Chicago has 20 BILLION dollars in upscale projects started and some being completed. Big time investors aren't investing in a failing city. About time someone looks at the bigger picture
As far as the pension the police and fire in Detroit kept their full pensions, other city workers took a small cut
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm CFD and a big fan of SCC, came on the job in 1990 with another 100 or so people, don't know a single one of them planning on staying in Illinois when we start to retire next year with 29 and a day...NOT A SINGLE ONE!
9/13/2017 01:11:00 PM
Better talk to some of them , because I plan on staying. Also, reside on the northwest side and at least 8 or 9 neighbors are retired CFD and those are only the ones I know
OT: On a "residency" side note: It's funny how many 022 coppers worry if a 'non residency' clause gets passed how they feel their property value will plummet as only city workers move into 022. Well I am here to tell you I lived at 95th and Hamilton Ave and listed my house and it sold in a week for $5K under asking price (as expected) and guess what? The buyers were caucasian and NOT city workers and the house has gone up in value since my move in March. Just sayin'. On the beach people and lovin' being out of not only the city of Chicago, the county of Cook and the state of Il but out of the USA.
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I heard that the smug levels have been down over 90% since march at 95th and Hamilton...coincidence?
Hate to hurt your feelings but where do you think the collar suburbs gained their minority population from, not one burb to the next, it's called movin on up, good rid-dens.
Why would anyone want to leave this utopia?
Could it be Rahm and Taxwinkle always reaching deeper and deeper into our wallets?
You can stay in denial on how Chicago and CPD are legit or you can wake up and leave.
Why stay, I had an ex in denial about chicago could never understand why you wouldn't want a better living and work situation. Glad I got out. Cpd is a national joke. Now I have Less stress less bullshit and a much better all around living situation.
This is why we need Amazon.
The government officials here worry about everything but the people who are paying to keep it a flot. Highest number of gang members, highest heroine use, highest murder total, lowest conviction rate, and yes taxes / fees that out pace all of the above. The building downtown has out paced people buying them. This place is so anti Police and procrminal. What business would want to put up with all the over regulation. Who wouldn't want to move.
SSShhhh dont let that certain company see this.
Leave? HELL YEAH. Retired 2 years ago, and finally found a great house in Tennessee. Huge house, beautiful wooded lot with a creek, and decent right thinking neighbors. New D/L? Yes sir, that'll be $28.00, and it's good for 8 years. New license plates for your cars sir? Coming right up...that'll be $35.00 for each car sir. No sir, we don't tax plastic bags here, or sugary drinks, and no there is no tax on bottled water. No state income tax so pension is golden. I WILL miss the blackhawks on t/v, but cable package has all NHL games so that's cool too. Maybe the 9-1/2 digit midget would like to move down here. The house next door is for sale with a huge crawl space, so he can hide a shitload of wedding dresses down there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm CFD and a big fan of SCC, came on the job in 1990 with another 100 or so people, don't know a single one of them planning on staying in Illinois when we start to retire next year with 29 and a day...NOT A SINGLE ONE!
9/13/2017 01:11:00 PM
Good... now go cook us some chili.
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