Body Cams Violate What Now?
- The number of U.S. police departments outfitting their officers with body cameras increases each year, but the cameras can pose a threat to civil rights if the departments fail to set rules that govern when officers review footage from their cameras, according to a new report.
The vast majority of the nation’s biggest police departments allow officers to watch footage from body cameras whenever they want, including before they write their incident reports or make statements, said the report, which was released Tuesday by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.
“Unrestricted footage review places civil rights at risk and undermines the goals of transparency and accountability,” said Vanita Gupta, former head of the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and current head of the Leadership Conference, in the report’s introduction.
Gupta was part of the Holder/Lynch Department of Just-us that drove the body camera movement, authored cut-and-paste "consent decrees," and spent hundreds, if not thousands, of hours determining how cops should do their jobs without ever having once actually done the job, because they knew better. And now they are having a problem with Officers being....accurate?
- Because an officer’s memory of an event may be altered by watching body camera footage, doing so will likely alter what officers write in their reports. That, in turn, can make it more difficult for investigators or courts to assess whether the officer’s actions were reasonable based on what he or she perceived at the time of the incident, states the report, “The Illusion of Accuracy: How Body-Worn Camera Footage Can Distort Evidence.”
Um, the entire point of cameras was to have an unbiased factual recording of what occurred. We, along with hundreds of other actual officers, pointed out it was a flawed presumption as a camera only records what it is pointed at, not what happens in the periphery, off-camera, from behind solid objects (shielding), and a million other possibilities that supposedly "intelligent" people thought about before imposing technologically limited solutions to an over-exaggerated problem.
The trouble is that the cameras aren't showing what the left wanted, to wit - police misbehavior.
What it is showing is completely the opposite - criminal misbehavior. And this is obviously cutting into (or about to cut into) lucrative "civil rights" settlements, so Gupta does what any lawyer/whore-for-money does - attack the system they put in place to get paid coming and going.
The trouble is that the cameras aren't showing what the left wanted, to wit - police misbehavior.
What it is showing is completely the opposite - criminal misbehavior. And this is obviously cutting into (or about to cut into) lucrative "civil rights" settlements, so Gupta does what any lawyer/whore-for-money does - attack the system they put in place to get paid coming and going.
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Trust me keep the cams. Civil and criminal lawyers are getting financially strangled in this city, hence the reason they are now focusing on all old "wrongful conviction" cases. The cash cow is no longer there for them. If it's on cam and a good case then they have nothing. Otherwise all they are getting now is low profit traffic. Keep the cameras. There is a reason for this sorry, the big lawforms who once pushed for cameras now want them gone and realize they are bad for business. Just had a lawyer from 26th I was talking too in court the other day who was complaining about the lack of profitable cases since body cams, no chance for trial on a solid case and he's only getting traffic and small cases. His firm has stopped doing civil cases a few months ago because there is not much there anymore worth spending all the time and money trying to put together when all he is gonna get is a small settlement for something under 30k.
we should read a disclaimer every recording so when they say we eavesdropped on some person we didnt warn that we were wearing the camera under duress and as a condition of employment.
It’s not about the truth or recording for evidence. Is all about trying to get us to put ourselves in a trick bag
If the camera sees and hears everything, why does the officer even need to make a report?
"What happened? I don't know. Let's watch the video and you tell me"
"Body Cams Violate What Now?"
Just EL-OH-EL @ the "community" based perpetual
race grievance anti-Police movement...
This comment:
"First you want them, no, DEMAND them, and now you don't want them?
Violation of snivel rights? Don't you mean an end to a majority
of the Ghetto Lottery Lawsuits?"
This thought:
"The Police are now using those cameras to unfairly
protect themselves from US!"
Give nary a fuck about THEM.
Ignore their screams of
"Somebody Do Something!"
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Look.
Laugh.
Leave.
I'm so tired of these progressives and their constantly moving the goal posts to whatever fit their narrative.
Ill gladly turn mine in.
You just can’t fix stupid. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
This Gupta clown finally got his ass handed to him and NOW he is inventing more bullshit to keep himself in the money working for more grieving progressive pea brains.
I think bwc are going to push the conviction rate through the roof. 5 years from now when the case finally goes to trial and people's memories have faded.....right there in living color, HD. If the above no view policy is adopted many CPD will be rule 14'd (fired) simply due to their memory not exactly matching the video. Fun times ahead.
OT A report that Rahmn Emanuel's Chicago is one of the worst cities when it comes to gender pay gap despite him exhorting that employers should adopt equal pay standards. Article in newsmax.com 15 Nov 17.
These mutts are like a dose of CLAP, it-they never will go away. Sessions has to start putting an end to these anti law enforcement commie'. The Soviet Union lives on in these educators and far left wing shmucks. The Cook County court system and prosecution is a perfect example of let the beast roam the street with impunity.
Well thats quickly remedied with my own personal camera for future reference. Gupta should volunteer her time in countries not unlike her ancestral one where police corruption is rampant.
Can't let the officers review their own camera footage?
Isn't the point of cameras and reports that the police get the facts correct?
What the rest of the country does, don't apply to Chicago. The world is strange like that. For example, asshole gets locked up and gets a tough sentence else where, and it's a pat on the back in chicago.
If I can't review the video/audio, then my report and statement is going to be very short and generalized. When asked questions about an incident, I will use Comey's, Lynch's, Holders', H Rotten Clinton's canned response of "I don't know", "I don't remember"
You wanted it, you got it, so now live with it. The fact that cameras work in favor of the police, and help convict shitheads, Wonderfull! Now crawl back under the rock you came from.
From the beginning I said those cameras are there to jam you up and take heat off the jagoff politicians who are more then willing to jam you up by catering to the unwashed masses.
Thank God I left that nitwit job before they hung a camera off of me. I could just imagine pulling up to a gang disturbance with these gangbangers with a camera hanging off of you and having to endure these assholes "clowning" in front of it.
They have turned the job into a clown show and guess who the clowns are?
The purpose of trying to require Officers to write reports before viewing video evidence is to take imperfect human perception and memory and turn it into attacks on credibility, livelihoods and freedom. Fuck that shit.
I thought that being recorded in public was constitutional? Dude, or even yuppie recording us at every chance is lawful. Wow, cameras proving that we, uneducated, civil servants are correct 99% of the time and that 1% is easily explainable. Let them keep talking. Are they afraid that the voting public will see how dude actually behaves. Even their most educated ones.
We'll never ever, EVER, will be able to appease these PHRUQTARDS....God how I hate these J.O.'s
I'm waiting for judges to start "suppressing" or tossing out footage when not in favor of the shithead.
Truth be damned. They will believe what they want to believe.
The cameras are here to stay, if for no other reason, they are profitable for the vendors that sell the storage space for the data. However the "Management and Distribution" of the video is as significant an issues, as is the content. It is not outside the realm of possibility for a court to allow "editing" of video. For Example: Is the video still viable as evidence if the faces of Confidential Informants are redacted or altered at the time of presentation? Can counsel for the officer demand that the video be shown in its entirety, or rule it to be excluded if it is in any way "altered". And let us not forget the issue timing of release of the video. The VanDyke trial may be the first example of raising the issue of timing of release, in essence being a form of "Censorship". THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT, THAT THE MC DONALD VIDEO WAS INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD FOR POLITICAL REASONS. IF THE VIDEO HAD BEEN RELEASED, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO RAHM SECOND TERM. IN ADDITION, THE IMPACT OF THE TAPE, WHICH WAS VIEWED AND COMMENTED UPON BY COUNTLESS POLITICIANS AND MEDIA, HAS IMPACTED ANY POSSIBILITY OF A JURY TRIAL. His Majesty, the Dancing Turd, The Bronx Bulldog, Fathead Ed, De-Escalate, and of course the slimy Ms. Roundtree; all in a sense "Censored" and concealed that video for over a year! So can video just be withheld and then Sprung on Defendants? Grand Juries are controlled by the Prosecutor, and that is why No White shirts went down so far on the Van Dyke case. Counsel for VanDyke needs to figure out how to force testimony from Rahm, and his Exempt; or entirely remove the tape as evidence, since it has been tainted by its concealment. Watch Your Backs, Rahm hates cops! Baby "G"
This is what democrats have always done.
Again, I’ll wear 10 cams until I get made whole with subsidized health insurance.
Don’t really give a fuck, and am not going anywhere until I’m made whole.
4:18AM is correct. Fuckin clown job.
However, I am more than happy to suck up as much VRI as I can and am happily taking advantage of Deffered Comp to the fuckin max.
Cameras and Boo are not on my priority list.
Omg you have to read the actual report... this is out of it: A rich body of cognitive science research shows how the introduction of post-event information — such as reviewing video footage — can alter people’s memories of events.19 In fact, people can be led to believe they experienced entire events that did not occur,20 and are sometimes so confident in their “pseudo-memories” that they go on to describe them in substantial detail.21 Researchers have also found that “the post-event distortion of memory is permanent and occurs without conscious awareness.”22 As the authors of one study explained, “[p]eople often misattribute feelings of fluency for familiarity when thinking about an event. Familiarity, in turn, is mistaken for a signal that the event must have happened in the past.”23. So my comment to this is that prior to the cameras they laughed at us when we said that stress plays a part in what we remember right after going through a high stress event which is one reason why they demanded the cameras because they didn’t believe us. Now they are trying to use the same argument as to why we shouldn’t look at them prior to writing a report. UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE.
Obama, the gift that keeps on giving.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the camera sees and hears everything, why does the officer even need to make a report?
"What happened? I don't know. Let's watch the video and you tell me"
11/16/2017 12:22:00 AM
Ha! Exactly. Narratives in reports should be: "See video."
If they don’t let you review the camera before writing a report write in the narrative, R/O was called to the scene to investigate (whatever it is), subsequently John Doe was placed in custody see video #1234 for details.
Wtf? Only in this crazy, criminal - loving city.
That Gupta clown is a real POS. Her and these other liberals think that they’re above the law. Talk about having an agenda no matter what the result.
Priceless.
I recall the Chicago press conference announcing the report of the Justice Dept on the police department. Gupta was there, front and center.A female attorney who has no idea what the cops do on a daily basis now billing herself as an expert on what cops do on a daily basis.
Hey, how you like it now. You have cellphone cameras, cops got body cameras.
body camera's can only be used if they prove a Perp dindu truly dindu nuffin...Cam'n'Release'm, Cam'n'Release'm all
Body Cam footage should always & only be used to serve the purpose it was introduced to serve: Convicting Cops & ruining careers
Vanita Gupta = an illusion of accuracy.
Retired ISP Investigator
Similar thing happened when we started recording interrogations. Attorney’s drooling to see all the “misconduct “. Never materialized. Showed their clients were guilty and usually stupid. Had to argue about what happened before their client got to the interrogation. Always looking for the new farce.
The camera don't lye! Now deal with it.
Be careful what you wish for Libtards.
can't make this shit up
The left will eat their own!
Look at some of their websites or FB pages. Consumed by hate!
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
I hate em!!!!
Also you cant review your reports.
In summary, view video.
That was a no brainer. The ghettos cried for
more police in their neighborhoods. The neeighborhoods became saturated with police
After that LIBS concluded that mostly blackd are being harrassed. No shit cops are patrolling mostly black neighborhoods like you requested. White libs like to run what black republicans reffer to as "The Plantation". Thos is not what Martin Luther King wanted. This is more of a Al Sharpton money scam.
Sigh - I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is a very simple solution to this "problem". Give the blacks what they demand: Absolute segregation. That way they can live in the their 'blacks only utopia free of the "victimization, Persecution, Oppression and Racism & Suffering that America has brought upon the black race. They can finally be separated and seceded far away from the other races so that they can finally 'live in peace' and 'harmony' within their own culture, morals and values. In this black 'utopia' black 'leaders' such as Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, Van Jones (an avowed Communist who will finally be able to enact and institute the wonderful economic polices of Marxism which will bring enormous wealth, economic security, industry and prosperity to the black race so that they can all be given the 'free' entitlements they not only demand but say they deserve in 'compensation' for all the suffering and indignity that America has brought upon them), Lynch, Farrakhan and even Obama (who although he is only half black did condemn his white half with utter contempt and shame many years ago according to his 'own' book and his 'own' words Dreams of My Father). Sharpton and Jackson will be the judges on which persons are deemed authentically 'black enough' to enter the black 'utopia'. Think of it: Everyone will be authentically black enough and living in a utopia where there will be no need for Affirmative Action Policies that provide special (not equal) rights for individuals based simply on the color of their skin, an all black police force (preferably run by The New Black Panthers) so there can be no 'victimization' based on race, where all sports teams are black only so there can be no reason to 'take a knee' against the new National Black Anthem and disrespect their own blacks only nation. This utopia will be free of drugs, gangs, violence and hate because everyone will be happy and content. Now how can any 'oppressed' black person argue with that?
body worn camera catches only what it angled lens captures....Gupta run for Mayor.....
'These lefties are so bold'... they actually say to your face that camera review of an incident, prior to writing a report of said incident might result in 'exacting detail' of written vs. video reports of the incident. Truth and transparency.
They go on to say that it takes away the mandate of simply writing by recall to the best of their ability, subject to human error, after a(n) (often traumatic) situation so THEY then can later view the video and hold us accountable for not having 'exacting detail' in both reports. Their statements, in 'exacting detail' (") appear below.
"The vast majority of the nation’s biggest police departments allow officers to watch footage from body cameras whenever they want, including before they write their incident reports or make statements..."
"Because an officer’s memory of an event may be altered by watching body camera footage, doing so will likely alter what officers write in their reports. That, in turn, can make it more difficult for investigators or courts to assess whether the officer’s actions were reasonable based on what he or she perceived at the time of the incident, states the report..."
'These lefties are so bold'... it's like them pissing in your face and telling you it's rainwater.
The way I read this is they want the camera but they don't want the officers to be able to review the video, ever! They want you to write the report based totally upon memory so they can then determine if the officer misstated anything, then they will charge the officer with perjury. They simply want to hang every officer they can. They don't care about civil rights, their only care is to discredit police. No police, no crime reports, total anarchy.
"I'd like to refer to my recorded video of the incident to more accurately recollect the wvents" or "refer to officers video log"
How would drafting a report incident to reviewing footage be any different than an M.E. videoing His/Exam post-mortem exam and than transcribing a report?
After leaving CPD I worked in federal law enforcement and simply described what was being observed in investigative videos. The cases we used videos in were all Major Federal Felonies.
It seems unfair that an Officer would not be allowed to refresh their memories via video review incident to the most stressful of situations one could experience. Yet Lawyers and the Courts can take years to review the same footage to pass judgment upon Officers using the very same images that they believe to truly reflect the circumstances of the involved event.
Sound like this will necessitate a Supreme Court review in the future. Glad to be retired.
Keep them. I've already been fully exonerated of a bad beef because of the camera. It actually saved me my job. If there wasn't a camera I could possibly be sitting in call back. Let's not forget the coppers that stopped bobby rush in 002. He made a beef and I guarantee without a body cam the investigation would still go on and they would be taking time. Body cam saved them. Imagine what would have happened if the Sgt in 005 years ago who stopped Paul jakes had a body cam?? Prob wouldn't have taken any time. Also keep the cams, they are killing the amount of food cases that criminal and civil lawyers are getting.
In the immortal words of an old-timer from the 80s - RED - from 016......in his GCR
"Saw drunk, arrested same"........
Now he could add - "see movie on body cam"
HAHAHAHA........
Thus far, BWC's have demonstrated that there is no evidence of the systemic corruption that the SJW's claim exists. The goal posts are shifting once again to put the cop on trial if/when he makes any statements that are remotely inconsistent with the video footage.
We were early adopters of BWC's and initially met with tremendous success taming the feral beast. After they got used to it, we went straight back to the expletives and bad behavior of the past. Savages gonna savage, putting the video online is a badge of honor for them.
So Gutierez goes after Sessions to get Trump. Fine. Is he going to go aftrr Alderman Burke for representing Trump to get his property tax bills lowered so we get our property taxes raised to fund the difference?
The logic is mind boggling, now they don't want us to accurately report an incident, via reviewing it from our cams. But they can review the recordings and we are going to be not aloud to do a review of our own footage. There words, because by doing so, its going to interfere with our account of the event(s). WTF
If I can't review the video/audio, then my report and statement is going to be very short and generalized. When asked questions about an incident, I will use Comey's, Lynch's, Holders', H Rotten Clinton's canned response of "I don't know", "I don't remember"
11/16/2017 03:34:00 AM
True or make no statement at all. Let the video speak for itself.
Obama regime hold-overs need to go! Totalitarianism dressed in the cloak of "safety" and "tolerance". What a bunch of leftist bullshit!!
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/11/the_public_should_have_the_right_to_see_police_body_camera_footage.html
Boo hoo the cameras are not showing what we want to see. Suck it up liberals.
Anything that makes liberals mad makes me happy.
Vanita Gupta is an America hating Communist!
Best thing in the world is the BWC. If you dont like them than you are an idiot. Learn to adapt, overcome and police with them.
“Unrestricted footage review places civil rights at risk and undermines the goals of transparency and accountability”
That comment basically says what we all knew from the start. For Gupta and the like, the cameras were meant to used against the police and nobody else.
Ha! Shakespearean justice. Hoist with their own petard
OT: Kimeesha's conviction integrity unit just unleashed a potential crime wave. Start the countdown for the recidivism infinity circle.
They want ten copies and first viewing rights?
Again, another example of letting the inmates run the prison.
Anything about civilian witch hunt groups being allowed to view video in order to put find flaws, tamper with witnesses and put together frivolous criminal allegations with the approval of a wicked unhinged Coo Co States Attorney?
Maybe the cameras are working enough and shitbags are getting what they’re due (not Cook Co) prosecutorial speaking and the public defenders/pro bono law groups don’t like that. So they want new fairness for shitbags rules.
Let’s infer a Chicago bod camera may only help when you’re 100% by the book, even then, in their eyes you must be lying and deliberately altered the footage. Conspiracy! Conspiracy!
Let the community trust come from Vagnita Goobta, so far the obama hack has had as much community success as her appointer.
Nobody believed that the Making of America Great Again movement was going to go over easy considering the last eight or more years of pandering and leniency. The Rule of Law isn’t coming back quick enough or at least it’s not being reported as such and the Left can only stall efforts with nonsensical elements, since they have the most to lose...votes lost to felony.
Never forget you’re in lawless feral controlled Chicago Cook County Illinois.
Don’t get involved in the ghetto and you won’t have any problems.
1st & 16th maybe a case report in between.
Anonymous said...
"Can't let the officers review their own camera footage?
Isn't the point of cameras and reports that the police get the facts correct?"
11/16/2017 03:09:00 AM
THIS!
Is the artfully crafted, built in "Police Reform"
trick-bag that comes with the Chicago version of
the Body Worn Camera program.
It's by intentional design to "prove" Police
"conspiracy" to aid, abet, cover-up and further
"The Blue Wall of Silence" such as it exists in
the fever swamp minds of the peoples/folkses
pushing the "Police Reform" agenda.
Faulty recall of events to just flat out forgetting
to include certain elements of an event in your
"Official Report?" You WILL have BIG PROBLEMS.
Said report will then painstakingly reviewed
and comparison/contrasted with the gift of better than
20/20 hindsight and perfect recall (the video you have
been deliberately locked-out from seeing but are deliberately
tied to at YOUR total detriment) by those avowedly adversarial
to YOU.
MORE big problems for YOU.
You "lied" on your "Official Report" because
the camera footage that you've been deliberately
locked-out of reviewing, does not "support"
what you wrote on your "Official Report"
"Detailing" the tangled chain of events
that occurred.
Rule 14 Violation.
Lynching in the court of public opinion.
Financial ruin.
Good name ruined.
Family destroyed.
All because you "Lied" on your
"Official Report."
The Chicago iteration of "Police Reform"
has a foul odor or vengeance and settling
a misdirected political score against the
fractional percentage of people who at some
point thought it was a good and honorable
thing to be a part of the thin blue line
that stands between civility and chaos.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Don't let the debased and hateful creatures
at the forefront of Chicago's "Police Reform
Movement" cook you in the above described
"Reform" jackpot.
If in fact, this were ACTUAL "Police Reform,"
it would NOT be gone about in THIS manner.
It's all about the Liberal Progressive Alinskyite
Agenda to stoke the fires of Catered-To Constituency
perpetual grievance to hasten the social, civil and
cultural unwinding of America's democrat controlled
urban centers.
Look.
Laugh.
Leave.
One more time that the best outcome is giving assholes exactly what they demand. 99% of the events where police are accused of violating some guys civil rights are bullshit. As much as I hate the idea of a camera over my shoulder, I say keep them now. Its pissing off the right people.
I agree with the post regarding cameras cutting into lawyers profit margins. Lol
show how our cps honor students act
show how granny calls at 3:00am to have her 30 year old grandson removed cause he's disrespecting her
show mama asking police to remove her 15 year old daughters 20 year old boyfriend from bedroom at 2:00am
not poleece problems
just life in the ghetto
I hope that out-of-shape Asshat who punched a pregnant woman had his on. If anyone know this bad apple, please turn him in. http://truthfight.com/cop-punches-pregnant-woman-stomach-laughing-calls-black-b/
Obama's Atty Gen Eric Holder didn't remember anything, neither should you.
https://youtu.be/4fCF_LiS4l4
Just PLEASE limit your cop-talk and jargon while the cameras are rolling.
If the offense is caught on camera how about a simple “refer to bwc footage” for a narrative;
If not, then the report is written as it always has been.
What this really means is that those darn cameras are racist.
They have turned the job into a clown show and guess who the clowns are?
11/16/2017 04:18:00 AM
The clowns.
Was that a trick question?
Everyone in America should have to wear body cams. Even kids. We should all be responsible for our behavior.
"This report is based on the reporting officers memory and may be incomplete. For an accurate and exact account review all squad car cameras and all body camera videos including any audio"
In Summary:
Comparing whores to lawyers is an insult to whores.
(OT) RIP brother please watch out for each other animals running wild everywhere democrats pander:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/16/baltimore-police-officer-in-grave-condition-after-being-shot-suspect-sought.html
homicide detective was pronounced dead Thursday as cops continued a dragnet for his “cold, callous killer.”
The slain officer was Detective Sean Suiter, an 18-year veteran of the Baltimore police force who had been investigating homicides for the past two years, the Baltimore Sun reported.
End of Watch: RIP Sean Suiter Baltimore Police Officer
Body worn cameras are changing policework. Police need to change also.
Your job is now not to "be the police " but to be camera stand. Provide the best video possible, nothing more.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hope that out-of-shape Asshat who punched a pregnant woman had his on. If anyone know this bad apple, please turn him in. http://truthfight.com/cop-punches-pregnant-woman-stomach-laughing-calls-black-b/
Did you see the video?
Anything on their part to try and jam up officers and try and "catch them bad po-leeces not being truthful." Big pile of political BULLSHIT!!!
Cameras are by and large a good thing for cops.
I've said that since they first started appearing in large numbers.
Lots of cops cleared because of camera footage.
The "police are bad" crowd pushed for cameras.
Let them eat the results they don't like.
when you have to give a deposition where your uniform and turn your body camera on and let them know you are video and audio recording them because the scumbag lawyers do it to you. If they say you can't do it, tell them that you feel that your civil rights are being violated because they are taping you.
(OT) hello rahm could you look into this and get with your buddies in Indiana first the U.S. steel toxic chemicals spill into Lake Michigan you know our drinking water how many contributions did that company make to elected politicians to be allowed to do this Erin Brockovich type of cancer causing dump of chemicals? Oh and rahm is this the dangerous green stuff in our river:
https://apnews.com/8ca7048f5cff4b45a634296a358f7309/Toxic-algae:-Once-a-nuisance,-now-a-severe-nationwide-threat
Just askin!
follow the link to the article and then read the comments. It appears most of the citizen's agree that this is complete nonsense.
RH
I hope that out-of-shape Asshat who punched a pregnant woman had his on. If anyone know this bad apple, please turn him in. http://truthfight.com/cop-punches-pregnant-woman-stomach-laughing-calls-black-b/
That was awhile ago troll...that was all a lie. Go try and stir the pot somewhere else dummy.
Owe-bama's kids not looking good on camera....
The cameras are ok when they use them against the cops?
I know the deep state is using my smart phone to spy on me.
Just imagine......
The quantity of bodycam footage alone, not even coupled with dashcam, could provide hundreds of jobs for video writers to comb through, to cull the best of the best and would keep a cable network revival of "Cops" running for decades......
A fitting replacement show for the entire programming of ESPN, CNN et.al......
Imagine what would have happened if the Sgt in 005 years ago who stopped Paul jakes had a body cam??
11/16/2017 09:06:00 AM
It was Reverend State Senator James Meeks of the House of Hope in the Pullman neighborhood. He claimed he and his family had just left a Bible Study class on Wednesday, 13 July 2005. He said he was stopped and, without a word, the officer put a gun in his face.
I so wish it had been taped. Meeks would have been proven a liar. And, the sergeant would have been vindicated, instead of Phat Phil going to Meeks' church to apologize.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/police-officer-hits-143-mph-in-dodge-charger-while-chasing-drunk-mclaren-720s-driver/ar-BBF0FbD?li=BBnbfcL
what was the effing deal with that sham press conference? 611 homicides and counting!
Aint it a bitch when you shoot yourself in the foot! ROFLMFAO
OT: They just awarded 4.75 million to an CCDOC inmate who fell from the top bunk. Cermack Dr's issued him a lower bunk due to seizures. Doesn't he know you have to fight for that lower bunk???
In Summary: R/o stands by the body-cam video for the date and time of the incident in question.
How did people in this country become so ridiculously stupid. Purge night seems like a better and better idea.
Everyone in America should have to wear body cams. Even kids. We should all be responsible for our behavior.
11/16/2017 01:53:00 PM
He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you awake
He knows when you've been bad or good
So be good, for goodness sake!
Guys, real liberals predicted that BWC would mostly show good cops doing good work. And that's what's happening. CPD should be putting more and more speaks-for-itself complimentary BWC footage online for the public to see. This blog should do that, too. There's plenty to comb through on COPA's website.
Your cleared given numerous awards and the exempts "atta boy" then Shazam:
7 officers on desk duty as charges dropped against 15, cases linked to corrupt ex-cop reviewed
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-mass-exoneration-ronald-watts-20171116-story.html
If your not fetal your insane! Wait for the lawsuits the city will be bankrupt thanks democrats pander more!
They know exactly what they want. They want to use the cameras to point out any inconsistency between a report and the footage and use that to throw out the case and sink the career of the officer. They want the cessation of policework.
Didn't think this through did they?
I hate to see anyone violated.
Libtard logic
If the above no view policy is adopted many CPD will be rule 14'd (fired) simply due to their memory not exactly matching the video. Fun times ahead.
11/16/2017 01:34:00 AM
Wasn't there an article in the FOP newsletter a few months ago where the author recommended officers NOT review the video in high-stress incidents such as shootings? His reasoning was that officer's thoughts and perceptions are critical to the split-second decisions that they make.
The worry of course is, what IF the video and the officer's thoughts & perceptions aren't the same? Will a Rule 14 violation follow?
rb
Insanity.
The quantity of bodycam footage alone, not even coupled with dashcam, could provide hundreds of jobs for video writers to comb through, to cull the best of the best and would keep a cable network revival of "Cops" running for decades......
A fitting replacement show for the entire programming of ESPN, CNN et.al....
If you want to be on tv go get extra job on Chicago PD
Ok so every cell phone user and every wanna be "social justice warrior" films everybody and everything and that's all ok. Every police investigation at the active crime scene has at least 5 up and coming "community activists" filming everything and said "community heroes" are filming the undercover car plates and all the star numbers as well. They are slick but if you watch them long enough you can see what they are really doing . They appear to be just wandering around aimlessly but slide back into the crowd and watch you will be amazed. They are gathering info , and for what ? But according to the ACLU that's all ok and nobodies rights are being violated and there is no safety issue there
Sigh - I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is a very simple solution to this "problem". Give the blacks what they demand: Absolute segregation. That way they can live in the their 'blacks only utopia free of the "victimization, Persecution, Oppression and Racism & Suffering that America has brought upon the black race. They can finally be separated and seceded far away from the other races so that they can finally 'live in peace' and 'harmony' within their own culture, morals and values. In this black 'utopia' black 'leaders' such as Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, Van Jones (an avowed Communist who will finally be able to enact and institute the wonderful economic polices of Marxism which will bring enormous wealth, economic security, industry and prosperity to the black race so that they can all be given the 'free' entitlements they not only demand but say they deserve in 'compensation' for all the suffering and indignity that America has brought upon them), Lynch, Farrakhan and even Obama (who although he is only half black did condemn his white half with utter contempt and shame many years ago according to his 'own' book and his 'own' words Dreams of My Father). Sharpton and Jackson will be the judges on which persons are deemed authentically 'black enough' to enter the black 'utopia'. Think of it: Everyone will be authentically black enough and living in a utopia where there will be no need for Affirmative Action Policies that provide special (not equal) rights for individuals based simply on the color of their skin, an all black police force (preferably run by The New Black Panthers) so there can be no 'victimization' based on race, where all sports teams are black only so there can be no reason to 'take a knee' against the new National Black Anthem and disrespect their own blacks only nation. This utopia will be free of drugs, gangs, violence and hate because everyone will be happy and content. Now how can any 'oppressed' black person argue with that?
My vote for comment of the Year
Did the LibTARDS start to believe the lies , fake news that Police Officers shoot , beat and write traffic citations because of a persons race ?
Now . we the people(Police) have proof that the thugs are violent people ,
Do the police beat , shoot , sexually abuse , neglect children , people of color .
No they do not , it is done by violent men and women .
"Wasn't there an article in the FOP newsletter a few months ago where the author recommended officers NOT review the video in high-stress incidents such as shootings? His reasoning was that officer's thoughts and perceptions are critical to the split-second decisions that they make."
This makes sense.
Damm if you do... Damm if you don't....
If you want to be on tv go get extra job on Chicago PD
11/17/2017 05:26:00 AM
Did you miss the point or are you just pretending to be dumb?
I hate to see anyone violated.
11/17/2017 12:28:00 AM
The Keesing Bandit has entered his hibernatory cycle, thus, not even gratuitously delicious baiting can induce a tempestuously titillating response.......
Nice try...... No cigar......
How did people in this country become so ridiculously stupid. Purge night seems like a better and better idea.
11/16/2017 09:05:00 PM
So......the coming of the Apocalypse is on your bucket list?
11/17/2017 05:26:00 AM -
I have been waiting for the crime catchers business model to come to pass based on video footage collected.
There is the gambling model - pay a fee to access certain areas and you "win" certain payouts for catching crimes that are recorded. Of course, payout amounts are directly related to seriousness of the crimes caught.
There is the good Citizen model, rewards based on free access public feeds.
There is the Nark Model, where those with rap sheets can clear them up by finding and providing video evidence of those guilty of worse crimes than those wanting to clean theirs up. (This one is done analogue now, its called CI and Plea deal. Going Digital and widening the scope is afoot, a matter of when, not if.
The twisted logic of democrats is incredible. I think if I shot myself in the head, and survived, I'd be smarter than the majority of democrats, I might be a blithering idiot, but I'd be smarter than most democrats!
J.J.
Sigh - I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is a very simple solution to this "problem". Give the blacks what they demand: Absolute segregation. That way they can live in the their 'blacks only utopia free of the "victimization, Persecution, Oppression and Racism & Suffering that America has brought upon the black race. They can finally be separated and seceded far away from the other races so that they can finally 'live in peace' and 'harmony' within their own culture, morals and values. In this black 'utopia' black 'leaders' such as Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, Van Jones (an avowed Communist who will finally be able to enact and institute the wonderful economic polices of Marxism which will bring enormous wealth, economic security, industry and prosperity to the black race so that they can all be given the 'free' entitlements they not only demand but say they deserve in 'compensation' for all the suffering and indignity that America has brought upon them), Lynch, Farrakhan and even Obama (who although he is only half black did condemn his white half with utter contempt and shame many years ago according to his 'own' book and his 'own' words Dreams of My Father). Sharpton and Jackson will be the judges on which persons are deemed authentically 'black enough' to enter the black 'utopia'. Think of it: Everyone will be authentically black enough and living in a utopia where there will be no need for Affirmative Action Policies that provide special (not equal) rights for individuals based simply on the color of their skin, an all black police force (preferably run by The New Black Panthers) so there can be no 'victimization' based on race, where all sports teams are black only so there can be no reason to 'take a knee' against the new National Black Anthem and disrespect their own blacks only nation. This utopia will be free of drugs, gangs, violence and hate because everyone will be happy and content. Now how can any 'oppressed' black person argue with that?
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Excellent argument, BUT.......
Look at the black utopias that already exist; Somalia, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Haiti, etc. If life there were so optimal for these minority run countries, you would not see them fleeing by the millions to Western civilization and the "oppressive" whites that founded it. These countries all have weak currencies, low GDP, no modern medical facilities, water/sewage treatment, or infrastructure, they are run by the most corrupt and brutal military and political regimes on the planet, and they have some of the most savage and barbaric tribal wars in which each seeks to commit genocide on the other. Haiti, when occupied and colonized by the French, had cities built with modernized infrastructure of that era and economic development, education, and art. Decades later after the colonists were slaughtered and driven away by the Haitian natives, nothing remains; the buildings, roads, economy, all gone and now Haiti is a poor, disease and crime ridden island that exists on the donations and aid of none other than those "oppressive" Western white people. There is no utopia for a culture who subscribes to life of hopeless victim hood and entitlement based on lies and propaganda fabricated by politicians and academic demagogues who profit and make a living from their perpetual grievance.
Anonymous said...
Everyone in America should have to wear body cams. Even kids. We should all be responsible for our behavior.
11/16/2017 01:53:00 PM
He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you awake
He knows when you've been bad or good
So be good, for goodness sake!
11/16/2017 09:10:00 PM
It's still kind of early for Santa, so you must talking about Big Brother. Or maybe the great, flaming, lidless Eye of Saurahm?
Wasn't there an article in the FOP newsletter a few months ago where the author recommended officers NOT review the video in high-stress incidents such as shootings? His reasoning was that officer's thoughts and perceptions are critical to the split-second decisions that they make."
This makes sense.
11/17/2017 08:37:00 AM
So.....not seeing/hearing visual/audible recording of what the event appeared and sounded like from the body cam and/or dash cam would provide the absence of what effect to be beneficial to the officer's what, exactly?
@ Excellent argument, BUT.......
11/17/2017 05:16:00 PM
>Solitary slow clap...
Long and low whistle
of appreciation...<
Your observational powers are formidable.
Truth in the right hands is a righteous
and terrifying weapon.
The usual scoundrels will level
the usual charge of "racism" against you.
The deliberately self-blinded and willfully ignorant
desperately wish to shout down enlightened observation
such as this because it's counter to their narrative.
It's all about control. They want every citizen to be in violation on of something. If you step out of line, you get charged.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
@ Excellent argument, BUT.......
11/17/2017 05:16:00 PM
>Solitary slow clap...
Long and low whistle
of appreciation...<
Your observational powers are formidable.
Truth in the right hands is a righteous
and terrifying weapon.
The usual scoundrels will level
the usual charge of "racism" against you.
The deliberately self-blinded and willfully ignorant
desperately wish to shout down enlightened observation
such as this because it's counter to their narrative.
Please put this in another format, it's really annoying.......
Excellent argument, BUT.......
Look at the black utopias that already exist; Somalia, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Haiti, etc. If life there were so optimal for these minority run countries, you would not see them fleeing by the millions to Western civilization and the "oppressive" whites that founded it. These countries all have weak currencies, low GDP, no modern medical facilities, water/sewage treatment, or infrastructure, they are run by the most corrupt and brutal military and political regimes on the planet, and they have some of the most savage and barbaric tribal wars in which each seeks to commit genocide on the other. Haiti, when occupied and colonized by the French, had cities built with modernized infrastructure of that era and economic development, education, and art. Decades later after the colonists were slaughtered and driven away by the Haitian natives, nothing remains; the buildings, roads, economy, all gone and now Haiti is a poor, disease and crime ridden island that exists on the donations and aid of none other than those "oppressive" Western white people. There is no utopia for a culture who subscribes to life of hopeless victim hood and entitlement based on lies and propaganda fabricated by politicians and academic demagogues who profit and make a living from their perpetual grievance.
11/17/2017 05:16:00 PM
A little known fact about good old Abe Lincoln, prior to being shot in the head, old Abe was in the process of offering the emancipated slaves to go back to Africa.
Anonymous Said...
A little known fact about good old Abe Lincoln, prior to being shot in the head, old Abe was in the process of offering the emancipated slaves to go back to Africa.
11/18/2017 11:38:00 AM
WHOOOO!
Watch it!
The catered-To Constituency and the white-guilt addled
liberal progtard Alinskyites will lynch you from a
lamp post for revealing that inconvenient truth...
They'll tell you that they aren't going anywhere
and that YOU and YOURS owe THEM tribute just because
they're here.
"Defun' da Po-leece an' give they money to us!"
"Why y'all don't wanna share what y'all got with us?
Them that has, gots to give... Or else we gonna be
mad an' shit..."
Just sayin'.
Please put this in another format, it's really annoying.......
11/18/2017 11:28:00 AM
Well
......... Since
..You
...... Said....
Please...........
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