10th Circuit Says "Be Fetal"
This decision is from earlier in the year, but here's a link to it.
As we read it, if an officer arrives at a situation where information was directly available (in this case, a CIT incident where the caller/wife had information directly applicable to the mental illness of her husband), then it is incumbent upon officers to safely assess the situation, gather the information, then address the situation. Otherwise, you will be held liable if shit goes sideways.
The Department is calling it something along the lines of Time as a Tactic. We're calling it "Smart Policing in an Uncertain Environment."
Either that or "Avoiding the Ghetto Lottery Trick Bag."
As we read it, if an officer arrives at a situation where information was directly available (in this case, a CIT incident where the caller/wife had information directly applicable to the mental illness of her husband), then it is incumbent upon officers to safely assess the situation, gather the information, then address the situation. Otherwise, you will be held liable if shit goes sideways.
The Department is calling it something along the lines of Time as a Tactic. We're calling it "Smart Policing in an Uncertain Environment."
Either that or "Avoiding the Ghetto Lottery Trick Bag."
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
25 Comments:
But all the clown law firms love the ghetto lottery trick bag... I gotta just quote Larry with the clown comment
Drive very slow and obey each and everyone traffic reg.
Follow the Seal motto, slow is fast and fast is smooth.
Loss for words, I’d bet those judges would feel different if they were doing the job. Based off their ruling, if the person is “crazy” give them more space. How about we don’t respond, have call taker ask if anyone is close to him and if not the police aren’t going. Clueless.
I'm outa here.
Fuck this shit.
Officers were never CIT trained in academy, an officer is not a psychologist. Mental calls should be handled by the fire department they have ambulances. A wagon is not meant for mental transports.
St. Paul Minnesota This Week.
Deputy charged with murder for shooting armed mentally disturbed man.
http://www.startribune.com/deputy-charged-in-shooting-death-of-lake-elmo-man-appears-in-court/513154922/
Ask for backup.
Ask for a supervisor.
Ask for the crazy team.
Play for time.
Make sure your body camera captures your comments about how dangerous the subject appears. How you fear his/her actions and statements. Don't be this guy,
http://www.startribune.com/deputy-charged-in-shooting-death-of-lake-elmo-man-appears-in-court/513154922/
DAMN
I invented that back in 1999
Catch every light
NO siren
NO going down one way street
No driving on sidewalk
NO cutting through alleys
All the while drinking a nice cool beverage in hand.
Let me think about this awhile.
My psych 101 book is in the squad.
Along with my Vanilla Fudge cassette in my Sony Walkman.
Yeah things are changing.
SCC was buying some fruit for his wife and got pumped
more than once because his regular wheel man called
off sick. His eldest son, Fredo, went to pieces and dropped
his heater in the gutter. All he could say was, "Pop, Pop!"
This prompted rivals to say "the Don is slippin'," when in
reality it was an internal coup.
Fredo would later get pissed and wonder why Pop didn't
make him the head of the family, instead favoring Michael.
Fredo would go on to rant, "I'm smart, too."
(Maybe too smart, Fredo, because Michael never forgot
his bedroom windows being riddled by machine gun fire.
So Al took Fredo for a little boat ride. Happens in the best
of families.)
It’s a medical issue.
Sounds like a dupe to CFD.
CIT training is the city’s way of saying you will be held responsible for anything that happens while you work. Make no mistake about it, it is not to help you but it’s sole purpose is to hold you accountable and the city is off the hook. Congratulations you are now all psychologists too along with being mental health specialists.
And your CIT trainers are PO’s that filled out a nojo. The city is hanging you out to dry.
And on top of that, the use of force that’s being taught is completely contradictory to the 10th District ruling. The ruling says basically you, as a police officer, can not escalate any situation which would lead to deadly force. That will allow the offender to defend himself with any use of force he or she deems necessary.
Send in clowns instead.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
12:26 Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.
CAlls for service regarding “mentals” should only handled by tactical teams. They are better equipped to deal with the issue. The department could call them for example the 765M (M for mental) team. They could be given extra training in dealing with these sensitive issues and would act as a team to de-escalate the incident peacefully. Just a thought.
Anonymous said...
Ask for backup.
Ask for a supervisor.
Ask for the crazy team.
Play for time.
Make sure your body camera captures your comments about how dangerous the subject appears. How you fear his/her actions and statements. Don't be this guy,
http://www.startribune.com/deputy-charged-in-shooting-death-of-lake-elmo-man-appears-in-court/513154922/
What a miscarriage of justice. He did everything right. Don’t know if the camera will help keep you from being charged but will aid in you acquittal. Appears they just wanted this guy charged and the went to the grand jury with that purpose in mind, dam the evidence
PTSS?
Baseball bat...a weapon or not?
Then these people have problems with their kin, have 9-1-1 transfer the call to 3-1-1 and request sending in the County Hospital CIT Psych Ward to do the job they ignore or don't treat.
They’re telling police to go into the danger zone to sort out the callers dysfunction, assess, evaluate, draft a prelim plan, notify a supervisor, additional support, set a perimeter, and wait it out until....what?
Or just tell the nut to knock it off?
These people want police to do all the fight work, and we all know jail is not an option, even when the shit hits the fan with that violent combative jag, the onlooking, video cams all on, the complainant has a change of heart.
They always change their tune in civil ‘settlements’ court.
Fools rush in, but giving the feral nut a announcement means they gots time to barricade, hold/harm hostages, booby trap, load up, plan an ambush, set a fire or plan an escape (a good thing). Had one DD (just wanted him gone caller) barricaded, so he jumped out the 4th floor window, landed on grass, without missing a step, he hightailed back into the shadows. Easy 1-E.
These are not police creating these plan of actions, they’re social justice theorist twits.
Are we going have a talk it out plan, like the RevDr Jugghaid SpecialEd PhD ?
Which means “I’m not getting involved”.
If Chicago CookCo IL can ignore Federal laws and impede the enforcement by Federal agents, then the best we can expect is to not get overly involved...ever. Case report, advise warrant.
You Clowns™️ don’t need specialized training to learn Stay Fetal and out of the ghetto affairs.
And Hey Jackass has us 6 away from 300, Lets go Chicago.
Always render medical help. Call CFD. 15-I
To the new guys. Learn the fucking law. read the link above for valuable information. At the the academy they teach the idiots guide to law, it doesn’t make you a lawyer,detective or prosecutor . Go beyond what you were taught and you’re fucked. Don’t be the fantasy hero in your head, you’ll pay for it and be the villain instead.
This is a big fucking deal
We've gone from "Stay Fetal" to now just don't do shit!
Per Hey Jackass. 6 murders from Friday to Saturday afternoon. About one every 4 hours
This will be overturned just as the 7th Circuit was with officer induced jeopardy.
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