Promised Tax Increase vs Stealth Increase
Did this moron run out of weed or something?
Lt. Gov. Juliana Stratton warned Thursday that Illinoisans could face an across-the-board income tax hike of at least 20% if voters reject a proposed constitutional amendment to shift the state from a mandated flat-rate tax to a graduated-rate tax based on income.
For weeks, Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritkzer’s administration has cautioned that severe budget cuts could be on the way if voters don’t approve the proposed amendment to overhaul Illinois' income tax system. But Stratton’s threat that all taxpayers, regardless of income, could face a tax hike unless the amendment passes on Nov. 3 appeared to represent a new shift in strategy for the Pritzker administration.
“To adequately address the budget crisis under our current tax system, lawmakers will be forced to consider raising income taxes on all Illinois residents by at least 20% regardless of their level of income,” Stratton said during a virtual rally on behalf of the pro-amendment Vote Yes for Fairness group that marked the start of voting in Illinois.
We remember a time long ago when a democrat ran for president on a platform promising to raise taxes. Mondale lost that one 525 to 13.
We also remember another idiot who reneged on his pledge to not raise taxes. Bush the Elder lost that one 370 to 168.
But somehow, we have a feeling that Fatass's "Fair Tax" is going to have a good showing, even when it turns out he's been lying about raising taxes on the wealthy only. Does anyone know what happened to New Jersey and New York when they passed these "Tax the Wealthy" proposals?
- the wealthy left - because they could afford to. Even if it was just a paper move to switch their primary residences.
And guess who got slapped with the massive tax increases when the wealthy weren't around?
- the middle class and working poor.
Illinois has spent years making their voters the most ignorant in the nation. Voting for people who promise to release felons, empty prisons, make buying a gun impossible. Voting for an open ended tax increase would be par for the idiocy.
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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My income tax would go up - guess what? I will leave - very easy to set up residency elsewhere. They will raise rates on the middle class when higher earners like me leave. Enjoy!
Fucking lies. Vote no. If it passes your pension will be taxed.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-treasurer-says-fair-tax-makes-retirement-tax-more-likely/
Well said.
Is Pritzker trying to buy votes essentially? Something seems illegal or immoral about it.
If Pritzker wants you to vote one way, vote the other way.
Nobody is going to listen though. They’re going to vote like Pritzker wants. Like sheep to a slaughter IL is full of voters who will blindly follow.
Great post. It sure is not only the people who make over $250k who will feel the pain. One thing about a flat tax is when politicians decide to raise it, it affects all their working voters. A graduated tax allows them to divide and conquer and leave just enough people happy to win more elections. Today it's over $250k, next it could be $100k. Illinois, unlike some other states with a graduated income tax, does not allow common deductions for mortgages, taxes, charitable donations, etc., to help working people trying to do the right thing. I hope the constitution change does not pass - just another way to hurt people trying to do their best - we have enough of that. '
Fatass, let me know when you slash the state budget and get rid of all the dead weight. Duplicate clout commitees, departments and all the other corrupt shit. Then we can talk.
Ah yes,summer is over and the wonderful WEED SMOKING ABSENTEE Lieutenant Governor has emerged form her lair to spew threats,racism,and hatred at all of us pitiful Illinois Residents who dare question Governor FATSO,s wisdom and edicts.I fully expect additional threats from Governor FATSO himself and his West Side Witch Doctor that we had better retreat to our basements and put our tin foil hats and masks on because the 2nd strain of SCAMDEMIC Pre-Election WU FLU has arrived.Buckle Up fellow residents.These stone cold criminals are going to be coming at us hard.The question is what type of push back is in store for them?I do feel an uprising coming soon.
Guess what new jersey just did it again The great gov murphy signed a tax the wealthy law
They'll tax pensions and social security next, removing the only advantage to living in Illinois and they;ll figure out how to tax you when you leave, just like California does.
Related to our money woes, watch:
The Ingraham Angle Show with Laura Ingraham
Video.FoxNews.com or her Twitter feed
Thur 24 Sep 20. Segment is 9.36 min long
‘Americans should focus on what matters this election’
She said Trump’s path to reelection goes through the Midwest. She said Governor Pritzker is the poster boy for failure. She also spoke about Lightfoot. She showed how deep of a mess Chicago and Illinois are in. After you watch it you will say, why the hell am I still here!
Every state that has passed a progressive tax now taxes retirees. Public and private pensions, taxed. Illinois Policy.Org, good web site. https://www.illinoispolicy.org/press-releases/tax-day-2020-fair-tax-opens-door-to-retirement-tax-local-income-taxes-double-taxation-next-year/
Lmao she is really shoveling some garbage with that lie.
Democrats in the General Assembly would never have the guts to pass a 20% tax increase. It would be the end of their party in Illinois.
The voters here have no idea of who or what they are voting for. Like sheep they will take the palm card that the friendly Democrat Precinct Captain hands them and vote in every name on the card. The voters are then relieved they didn’t have to do any research themselves. They are then happy that they did their civic duty. It’s been working for about a hundred years.
yup, the 20% increase is meant to scare the math challenged. SUCKERS
Very simple, really. A tax increase is a tax increase. Today, the "rich". Tomorrow you will be deemed "rich", and suffer the same fate. Never ends. Never a mention of cutting spending. Always tax, tax, tax. Please vote NO.
I have no problem with severe budget cuts, except that these morons wouldn't cut their pet and privilege programs. The only ones affected would be the normal people.
Another load of shit,just like the scamdemic..The middle class will pay for his fair tax..Democrats are sheep to the slaughter!
I live on a block that has three home owners that have condos in Florida or Arizona and they are their primary homes.
They are fear mongering. Vote no! Look at the income brackets for the Fair tax. The current Illinois tax rate will jump after $10,000. of income. They are increasing taxes on everyone, including the poor. Businesses need to step up to the plate. They will experience a large jump in taxation. I am sure Indiana and other surrounding states will welcome the business with open arms.
For weeks Pritkzer's administration has cautioned that severe budget cuts could be on the way........
Isn't that what should have been done long ago? These fucking morons.
Here’s some tips and clues for all the readers out there. JB has put over 5 million dollars of his own money into commercials and other advertisements to get this thing passed. One has to ask , why would he do that and who is this fair tax bill really going to benefit ?
What he didn't say until later that pensions will also become table. But to most democratic voters a 20% tax increase really do sent matter at all since the majority pay no taxes. What does a welfare recipient care about taxing working stiffs, just more money to give to them. So by closing all the businesses the Fat Man created a budget crisis so he can contact you into believing that a tax the earners, not just the rich, is a good idea. Typical Democratic logic.by our deserve the government you vote in. Big election coming, do something about your current situation or STFU and continue to suffer.
What could go wrong. Border states are about to see a property value boom of this passes. With. Especially not far from north shore where a lot of really big money lives.
If you don't work and haver never paid taxes, or for anything, why wouldn't you vote for it, more more more.
If you think that the $400.00 you SAVE on State Income tax is worth STAYING IN ILLINOIS Your fucking nuts! Retire and Get out of Shitcago once and for all. Move south to a RED STATE where the ONLY BLM (Bludgeon,Lute & Murder) JAGOFFS ARE ON TV. Because they know whats waiting for them if they show up here !!!!!
so just vote NO to jb priksters fair tax bs
anything that guy says is sewage out of his mouth
World news baby world news great job corruption filled welcome to the most corruption field as we know city state county and United States of America we are in the world from now we are number one mayor great job Democrats
Laura Ingraham: 'Midwest finally has its moment' in this election, and Illinois is a warning
https://www.foxnews.com/media/laura-ingraham-2020-election-midwest-illinois-warning
The News media here in IL has been doing in-depth stories such as "Dreaded Head Cowboy", Every police shooting, Every CTU bullshit contract scare etc. But never write or produce a series on
the financial ills of the State of Illinois or how 85% of all the drag on productivity comes from 25% of the State's population. These idiots in the media will suffer the worst when the complexity built by the West over a thousand years fractures beyond sustainability.
It will be fun to watch Mayor Smelly Head get trampled by NU NU supporters.
Gov Fatass who is an admitted tax cheat proposed it. The sheepoll will vote for it.
Illinois Will Tax Your Pensions
Illinois Will Tax Your Pensions
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LT Governor has been silent throughout the Pandemic
Now She is Applealing to Black Voters
Big Budget for Her Office
Does No Work. Large Staff
Appealing to Black Voters
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Vote. NO on this Resolution
So, if we don’t pass fat boy’s most very favorite tax in the whole wide world, they threaten to do all the cuts, layoffs, and downsizing that they should have done before resorting to taxes? Just how in the fuck did we end up here??? My head hurts trying to imagine what a normal world is like.....
Anonymous said, “They’ll tax pensions and Social security next!”
Should have said they’ll tAx pensions and Social Security Again. The state gets its share of these funds as they are earned, same for deferred comp. check your pay stub.
So fat boy let her talk, didn't know she existed with the hog taking all the limelight.
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Lmao she is really shoveling some garbage with that lie.
Democrats in the General Assembly would never have the guts to pass a 20% tax increase. It would be the end of their party in Illinois.
9/25/2020 03:02:00 AM
20% of 4.95%, which is Illinois current flat income tax rate so .20 X 4.95 = .99%
So 5.94% instead of 4.95%
Especially during a pandemic year, you don't think they would raise income taxes by .99% or 1.0%?
Prior to July 1, 2017, it was 3.75% income tax rate...
ya right, all of a sudden they need a 20% tax hike? Come on, man!
tax the pot heads
Odd that they're trying to reform the federal tax system by turning it into a flat tax. Keep in mind that the Democrats ultimate goal is for the majority of voters to pay no tax, so that they'll be free to impose any and all tax increases on the rest of us.
A minor quibble, SCC, with "Illinois has spent years making their voters the most ignorant in the nation."
That might be adjusted to "Chicago's fake-liberal media have spent years making people in Illinois the most ignorant in the nation."
The jerks who populate the Trib, Sun-Times, and the posers at the tv news outlets are simply the worst -- with one or two exceptions.
These are mostly people who thought they were on their way to NY or LA or even Hollywood, so they parrot all the PC/SJW/BLM crap they hear, since they can't wait to fly away themselves. And once they give up that fantasy they start sucking up big time to the politicians.
Have seen the adds for this BS..."Millionaires and Billionaires tax" my ass. My taxes will go up if this passes and I'm not some rich guy living on the Northshore. We got educated and worked for may years (both my wife and I) to get where we are and still have to get creative to pay for private high school...because CPS is not an option...and college. I don't complain about that but don't tell me I'm not paying "my fair share"
So...if taxes are going to go up make them do it across the board. Dare them to do it.
Many businesses alone with their middle and upper class workers have learned that they could work remotely from anywhere thanks to Covid. Retirees flocked to Florida, Texas and Tennessee because of the tax rates on retirement income and a lower cost of living.
What happens when all of those who can leave Illinois do? Keep an eye on New York and New Jersey, they are starting to see the effects of a similar policy. Democrats have never learned to cut spending, they only tax more.
Oh c'mon now, since the people who voted for these ASSHOLES don't work, why would they worry anyway?
Statistics matter:
Obamacare enrollment for 2020 was only a little over 8,000,000 people
Medicaid (FREE) enrollment was up to 72,000,000 for 2020
So the TRUE PREMISE of Obamacare was to actually give more FREE FULL HEALTH
INSURANCE to more and more people here.....note I did not say CITIZENS
while the rest of us pay unbelievably high costs......
We are a nation of 330,000,000........
So, 22% of our country is living off the other 78%.....
Which doesn’t even take into effect welfare, snap, rent, phones, electric, gas, etc
And these DEMS want even more of your hard-earned money with this phony “tax the rich” scam!
Vote DEM out!!
I’m posting this from Florida. Instant pay increase when I left Illinois a couple weeks ago. I saw Stratton in the front of the Trib bringing out the “stick” because the carrot isn’t working. You cannot tell me this wasn’t calculated. JB the Hut plays good guy and Stratton - who has pretty much been invisible except for being first in line to buy legal weed back in January - gets to be the heavy this time.
Meanwhile that New York sack of shit Governor Cuomo is begging for the money people to come back. They fled, using other homes as their primary addresses just to claim residence in another state. Just like the money people in Chicago will do. No problem, just pass the tax on to the ones who still work. It's the old Goodfellas rule, "FUCK YOU, PAY ME!". Illinois voters are doomed by their stupidity.
Conveniently, Jabba has already purchased an estate in Florida where he won't have to pay his own tax.
Vote NO on the new progressive Illinois tax. This article does a good job stating how it failed Connecticut since being implemented in 1996.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/fair-tax-paves-the-way-to-taxing-retirement-income-in-illinois/
Tell everyone you know to vote NO. Just another work around to tax your pension and screw each class a little at a time.
"Lmao she is really shoveling some garbage with that lie.
Democrats in the General Assembly would never have the guts to pass a 20% tax increase. It would be the end of their party in Illinois."
Bullshit. They have lied to this state ever since Madagin was first elected, and the sheep just keep toeing the line. Nothing will change until the feds start through Springfield with large scale indictments and long prison terms.
The single biggest donor to the vote yes campaign is old fat ass himself.
Look it up on:
https://illinoissunshine.org/committees/vote-yes-for-fairness-35564/
This says a lot for how good it can be for the average Illinois taxpayer.
And speaking of weed and taxes, wasn't the trillion dollar tax revenue windfall from the sale of weed going to balance the books?
.....then there's the more basic question: Could the Lt. Gov. explain why we need such extreme tax increases? Covid? Something Mr. Trump did? Something Gov. Rauner did? Right-wing extremists?
Yeah, funny. No mention of the waste, useless pork projects, patronage, corruption, freebie payoffs to friends and illegal immigrants (pro tip: Medicaid is a complete state-run giveaway program that is barely regulated; benefits going to all kinds of people who should not be eligible. It's the biggest expense in the state, and the Dems do not want to change that because the giveaways buy them votes).
It's a spending problem, not an income problem.
Fix the spending, assholes.
No reason the legislature cannot just increase the income tax rate and also increase the exempt amount so it shifts more of the burden onto the wealth. No need for this scummy proposal.
Not voting for this tax proposal. They are really pushing it so you know something is in it for them. If they raise my taxes, we’re moving. I’m not playing their games anymore. Vote fat ass and his idiot sidekick out.
It will be easy to vote this November. No on every judge and no on every amendment on the ballot.
VOTE. NO on the Tax Proposal
Politicians are Snakes. Protect Our Pensions
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lmao she is really shoveling some garbage with that lie.
Democrats in the General Assembly would never have the guts to pass a 20% tax increase. It would be the end of their party in Illinois.
9/25/2020 03:02:00 AM
Unfortunately they won’t have to. They will scare the voters into voting yes for his change of the law. People will say I don’t want my taxes increased I’ll vote for the tax increase for the rich
Force every member of the State House and Senate to vote on it! That don’t have the balls!
If they are allowed to raise taxes then they wouldn’t push this. The Illinois constitution is preventing them from changing the tax code. Quit voting Democrats into office. They have shown they are nothing but empty promise thieves set on destroying America. Trump 2020!
Vote NO! The rich hide their assets. Don't buy their threat of an increase if we vote no.
https://www.bettergov.org/news/pritzker-s-storied-charity-costs-him-little-but-taxpayers-a-lot/
’m posting this from Florida. Instant pay increase when I left Illinois a couple weeks ago. I saw Stratton in the front of the Trib bringing out the “stick” because the carrot isn’t working
Are you retired? Because Florida is expensive and they pay crap. I've been actively looking into moving to Florida but housing is sky high. Car insurance is double and the pay is garbage. So unless your in the medical field or retired not sure how your making it.
Hey bandit, are you OK? You are frequently forgetting to include your world-famous slogan lately. Too much overtime?
Yes the tax on your pension will suck. But what your missing is the change to the state constitution. If this passes it will give a backdoor to changing the guarantees that the constitution now provides as to our pensions. This is the real reason that Fred Flinstone has put 54 million dollars of his own money to get it passed. This has to fail!!
I hate that fat ass pumpkin head POS Governor and all his shit bag buddies.
It's gonna pass even if it doesn't. We live in the corruption-capital of the USA. The mail-in ballots are already completed and ready for their partners in the USPS to bring them home.
This tax increase will drive businesses out in-droves beyond what this jackass prick has already done with all the tax increases since he was elected. BTW: millionaires and billionaires for a dumbass democrat is anyone making $150K or more. You need to use the Louis Farrakhan million-man-march democrat calculator to interpret a lying commie rat like Pritzker.
Having said that, vote early and often. Make them really have to cheat big to win.
Vote no!
VOTE. NO on the Tax Proposal
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