Monday, October 30, 2023

New Idea

Sounds interesting:

  • One week on call, followed by five weeks to work cases. Ten-hour days and take-home cars. And perhaps most importantly, total ownership of an investigation from start to finish.

    Starting next year, the Chicago Police Department will roll out a new pilot program for detectives, altering how and when investigators respond to murder scenes across the city in an effort to boost CPD’s clearance rate.

    The new “homicide teams” were born out of the tentative contract agreement made public last week between the city and Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7, the union that represents rank-and-file CPD officers and detectives.

    “The objective of the pilot program is to enable each team to focus on solving homicide cases by removing distractions, providing a work schedule geared to the operational needs of the team, and with additional resources,” the arbitrator overseeing negotiations, Edwin Benn, wrote in an opinion made public last week.

Ok, working backwards from these first few paragraphs:

  • what does a 90+ year old non-police arbitrator know about investigating homicides? This isn't a critique....we're genuinely curious;
  • are homicide teams "new"? Didn't we have shooting teams in the not-so-distant past? Wouldn't this be like a step up?
  • ten hour days on call for overnight homicides with a take home car, then five weeks to work any homicides that occur. Sounds like a not-so-subtle effort to cut down on 3rd watch Detective OT. 
  • "total ownership"? That's just a fancy way of having someone to blame when a homicide doesn't get solved. And although its been decades since a Detective got dumped for cause....never discount the City's intent to do harm

It's an interesting proposal and deserves consideration. Our four points aren't criticisms, but requests for clarification.  After all, an informed workforce is more willing to get behind a program that works when they know it isn't being used politically to screw them.

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86 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So it's reverse senority soon to be on this team.

10/30/2023 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will this be part of the bifurcated approval city council wants on the contract? Or does that only apply to discipline and the police board ruling? Or do they get to pick and choose between all of Benn's rulings?

10/30/2023 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So?

What is the current homicide clearance rate?
Is it even in double digits anymore?

10/30/2023 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet quite a few homicides solve themselves, completely.

Just not so anyone notices.

10/30/2023 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Dirty little secret? This is a cost control and turnover initiative.

Detectives already have Nissan Sentra’s and Ford Fusions. They cost nothing because they’re efficient, have no police equipment like explorers do and are cheap to purchase.

Homicide detectives are already on-call in the areas, so that’s a wash.

2nd and 3rd watch OT will be trimmed exponentially with this.

Combined with the D-2B pay bump which will keep people from taking a sergeant promotion, this will try to keep more people in the D unit. If 40% of Sgts came from detectives before, that # will drop in half soon. That means less detectives being made off the joke of the (48-question exam designed for minorities) current list.

So more SGT’s will be made out of IAD.

10/30/2023 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PO assigned as detective, you will do as your told or you can put the fedora away go back to pushing a,squad car.

10/30/2023 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I work with Joe in area 4.
He lives near O’Hare airport.
I live by Midway Airport.
Who gets to take home car.
Both of us???
Share????????

10/30/2023 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe there are homicide teams now. Maybe people will want to work those cases. Will the effort change the clearance rates. Who knows? No changes with the way cases are prosecuted.

10/30/2023 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They’re removing all of the excuses from the Homicide dicks and cutting back on the daily OT. Five weeks for eight dicks to focus on a homicide. Ya think! But don’t worry there are some that’s excited about the 10 hour days and take home vehicle.

10/30/2023 04:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is modeled after LAPD’s homicide section. This was being pushed by Staples and then Deenihan for the last 5 years. Had to wait for the contract in order to get it pushed through. Summers will be rough for the on call team and 5 weeks without getting a murder will chop a ton of OT out.

10/30/2023 04:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No chance it will work. The number one reason homicides don’t get solved is due to community cooperation. These communities have been taught to say the reason they don’t cooperate is due to the historical evilness of the Chicago Police Department, but that’s not what it really is. The real truth is that some communities have engaged in (and enjoy) generations of shocking amounts of violence so much that they’ve become comfortable living in that life. Think of a hoarder. Hoarders are content with their living conditions, even though most people would consider pissing and shitting in jars vile and disgusting, the hoarder does not.

10/30/2023 04:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does it really matter. Even if they catch a person read handed. In the United States law enforcement has to bring probable cause to charge someone with a crime. The Cook County prosecutor’s office will bring the case for prosecution. A Cook County Judge will hear the case render a sentence if found guilty. The Illinois Parole system will than decide parole.

I have personally seen killers out in 15 years only to kill again. In the jurisdiction we are in it’s filled with soft on crime and easy on criminals. Most area’s in the country they would give capital punishment or throw away the key. If I were a criminal I would commit crime in Cook County Illinois. Plea agreement’s and dropping charges are the norm.

The Victim never gets justice in an area where huge a thug is the way of doing business. Let felons work in sensitive jobs and give them a second chance at CTA for example. Train cook county inmates on heating and cooling. Just invite them into everyone’s house. There is no deterrent. How about be hard on criminals and tough on crime.

Instead of fighting for a better system its easier to just move to an area that knows how to handle crime and criminals. Believe me the more your involved in our system, the more you hope your never a victim.

10/30/2023 05:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, come on now... why would chicago screw it's own police department ?

10/30/2023 05:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The homicide detectives are already behind it. Most knew it was on the table for many months and fully supported it.

10/30/2023 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is the next class?

10/30/2023 05:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are the HIST teams going to be part of the program?

10/30/2023 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL. Wont work. But they’ll say it dies. Because they’re all Liars

10/30/2023 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a former Dick it’s called DISASTER!! Wen that idiot McCarthy created the robbery guys working from districts all it did was create a group of dicks that went remote before remote working was cool and even thought of (pre Covid). Them guys became couch detectives.

10/30/2023 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So on call your sitting home getting paid correct with the company car at your disposal? This would be nice work cases yea sure boss! No accountability as usual? Thanks boss great idea. Can we put in overtime "on call," while I am in moms basement wearing my barbie jammies? just axin!

10/30/2023 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes! This will be great for running my real estate business.

10/30/2023 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sign me up. 10 years after retiring you’ll have reporters at your front door accusing you of railroading an innocent person on the word of lifelong felons. Hell you might even be indicted too. Yippee. Sounds like fun.

10/30/2023 07:41:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Will merit detectives be eligible?

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

10/30/2023 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT must have already been cut. I’m seeing more and more Dets working SDI and CTA.

10/30/2023 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The detectives are going to have a ball in working so much overtime. I hope you guys and gals make as much overtime as you desire. The homicide teams have a tough job.

10/30/2023 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here is an old idea to try again. let the police do their job, chase the bad guy and actually have the states attorney office approve felony charges and send the offender to prison

10/30/2023 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's patterned after Los Angles model.

10/30/2023 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YAWN .... sure, that'll do it.

10/30/2023 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New idea:

The city is currently hiring civilians to be instructors at the academy. No policing experience required. Never been in a beat car, working their way up from a recruit. It really doesn’t make any sense at all, but really nothing does anymore. Just make yourself laugh by asking this civilian instructor how they did it when they were on the street.

10/30/2023 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger rosco said...

How about a take home Paddy wagon?

10/30/2023 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have been doing this for years at the northside area I work at. Some guys love it, others hate it. I do get understand why we do it and it does work but getting woken up at 0300 to go to a scene sucks. Lt. Accountability makes it work and dreamed this up.

10/30/2023 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger Prairiepolice said...

We typically do not give any shout outs to the soy cuck latte foam drinker Rich Miller and his hatred for the police that he and his cuck latte fan boys express every day on his website, but it would appear that Eddie was mistaken

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2023/10/27/23935538/law-longer-prison-time-aggravated-unlawful-use-gun-weapon-felon-illinois-legislature-rich-miller

10/30/2023 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been in several special units over the years. I have known others who have as well.

I don't trust the department to adhere to any agreement. They have a history of controlling and micro managing everything and making it a miserable work experience for all.

They limit or do away with any substantive training, and then squeeze members overtime to the detriment of a unit. They play the dog and pony show to anyone who will watch and listen to their BS and thinks they're legit.

Any special detail will be a phone call unit within 1 year or less. The take home cars will be the first perk to go. Merit bosses will take over the show if they are not already there from the beginning. Morale and efficiency will decline as micro management continues.

No thank you...I'm on the retirement list. Too little, too late.

10/30/2023 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger DG in GA said...

I’m not a LEO, but how are homicide detectives supposed to clear cases when multiple witnesses to the crime absolutely will not cooperate? When you can have 30 eyewitnesses to a murder but “nobody saw nothin’l how are you supposed to “solve” it?

10/30/2023 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is something that deenihan had pushed for for years because it is way more effective for detectives and their cases. It stops overload. This exact model is what las Angeles and Las Vegas have in place currently and have been practicing for years. Detectives won’t get a homicide on Saturday then be up again for one on Tuesday. It will drastically limit the amount of homicides a detective gets thrown to him. This will also entice alot of people to move from other spots into homicide. So if you get more people AND put this into place a detectives caseload will easily be cut in half and more than likely even more than that. I know that for 10hr days, less case load and a take home i will be leaving RBT to go back. I left being a homicide detective 3.5 years ago to “relax” as a robbery detective. No thanks. RBT has become a circus with 10 new jobs in your box every day. As a former homicide dic I can tell you this will be a very good change.

10/30/2023 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which team member gets the car? No pool cars either.

10/30/2023 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous NavySealRanger12 said...

OT: So is anybody here gonna shed some light on what happened at the Pro-Palestinian protest on Michigan & Madison on Saturday around noon?! The local media won't touch it...but the cellphone vids from on-scene clearly shows an all out brawl between the radical BLM "Black Israelites" and the Arab "Pro-Hamas" factions with bottles and M80s being thrown at each other and terrified motorists stuck in the crossfire.

And for all you doubters that say we have nothing to worry about at the 2024 Democratic Convention, get a good look at what's coming in 10 months! All the police-hating leftists and Dems will be viciously at each other's throats...with us in the middle.

10/30/2023 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this just to say when a det starts a case, he or she also has 5-10+ other cases they just started at the same time? I mean, it SOUNDS good, but so does communism (lol). I'm all for folks to be task oriented with higher efficiency, but what falls through the cracks during this pilot? Hopefully folks do well and are able to earn in the process without being miserable (or slightly LESS miserable).

10/30/2023 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the current clearance rate on homicides?? last published figure on HeyJackass was 10%, but now they do not publish that data.

10/30/2023 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To clear a Murder you need Motive Opportunity and Means,Drive by shootings are a different animal.

10/30/2023 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only the team up for the week takes a car home. But everyone else will be working 2nd watch, 10 hours, weekends off.
The issue is the city will have to double the amount of cars for the homicide unit. All 3rd watch homicide dicks will be moved to days and will need cars.

Remember in 2009 when 005 went to 10 hour days for all 3 watches? It failed because there were not enough cars. The watch coming on had to wait a few hours for a car and the watch getting off came in early to give the car up. So the plan of having more cops on the street during prime time violence hours failed. Now 005 has 10 hour days again but essentially 2 watches.

The city has demonstrated time and time again that they will not provide the logistical support to make this work. They will not have enough cars to support this plan. So the dets with no cars to do field work following up on cases will work on their laptops (maybe) remote.

This is not LA. Too many murders occur on 3rd watch and 1st watches. Another issue, it will take an hour or more depending on the time and location to mobilize the team during 1st and 3rd watches. Witnesses (if any) will not wait. And we know their info and phone numbers are often fictitous. So finding them later on would be difficult. Good luck!

10/30/2023 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a former Dick it’s called DISASTER!! Wen that idiot McCarthy created the robbery guys working from districts all it did was create a group of dicks that went remote before remote working was cool and even thought of (pre Covid). Them guys became couch detectives.

10/30/2023 07:09:00 AM
Quiet man your going to ruin this for us, now where is my fuzzy slippers and my tea, "Mom come on now warm up this milk I am working!" Please don't tell Larry he is getting his pump on the Arnold Classic is soon!

10/30/2023 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...



Dirty little secret? This is a cost control and turnover initiative.

Detectives already have Nissan Sentra’s and Ford Fusions. They cost nothing because they’re efficient, have no police equipment like explorers do and are cheap to purchase.

Homicide detectives are already on-call in the areas, so that’s a wash.

2nd and 3rd watch OT will be trimmed exponentially with this.

Combined with the D-2B pay bump which will keep people from taking a sergeant promotion, this will try to keep more people in the D unit. If 40% of Sgts came from detectives before, that # will drop in half soon. That means less detectives being made off the joke of the (48-question exam designed for minorities) current list.

So more SGT’s will be made out of IAD.

10/30/2023 01:21:00 AM
True especially the vehicles undercover style easier to hide and get that shopping done in the burbs another great idea from the small minds called gold stars!

10/30/2023 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Los Angeles and New York have been doing this for a very long time. When Beck was here he proposed this model and he also wanted most detectives working out of the district stations. I wonder how many of these " merit" detectives will end up on the homicide squad?

10/30/2023 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said...
So?

What is the current homicide clearance rate?
Is it even in double digits anymore?

10/30/2023 12:48:00 AM

So, a detective brings a case to the ASA and the prosecutor rejects charges. Then the department considers that homicide " solved"/ ? Really? Now that is a novel way to increase your clearance rate. What is the incentive then to continue working the case to find more evidence?

10/30/2023 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

This is modeled after LAPD’s homicide section. This was being pushed by Staples and then Deenihan for the last 5 years. Had to wait for the contract in order to get it pushed through. Summers will be rough for the on call team and 5 weeks without getting a murder will chop a ton of OT out.

Staples wouldn't be able to figure out how to put staples in a stapler.

10/30/2023 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/30/2023 08:02:00 AM

Yep. But that will never happen anymore in this democrat run shitty. Cook County is done.

10/30/2023 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’ll Pass. Just curious if they’ll have to do reverse seniority like tact teams. How things have changed, still remember waiting over 5 years to maybe being able to get to violent. That must be what the billboards mean, “Be the change.”

10/30/2023 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PO assigned as detective, you will do as your told or you can put the fedora away go back to pushing a,squad car.


Wish I could just keep D2B pay and go work in a district. No inbox and able to work doubles and don’t have to make arrests.

10/30/2023 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another oops by 14 tac. Gun found in prisoner toilet send them back to a watch

10/30/2023 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are the HIST teams going to be part of the program?

10/30/2023 06:37:00 AM


Guessing they will be launched

10/30/2023 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work with Joe in area 4.
He lives near O’Hare airport.
I live by Midway Airport.
Who gets to take home car.
Both of us???
Share????????

-------------------------------

You can have the car and go pick up Joe near O'Hare.
Then drop him off after work.
Put a slip in for 2 hours on the front and 2 hours on the back !

It's Da Chicago Way $$$$$$

10/30/2023 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I like the way fedoras look on men. It reminds me when men were men and guys like me were glad.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

10/30/2023 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's to prevent incompetent merit detectives from screwing up a crime scene
I suggest merit sargwent , dicks be assigned to all gang murders bwahahaha

10/30/2023 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you can have car , pick me up and drop me off everyday
you smuck

10/30/2023 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ain’t no murder teams in A/3. Every man for himself.

10/30/2023 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remove Caps and Dco positions. Have officers on the beat stop by community events when they aren't on a call. Beat officers are going to be the one's who respond if community members need police assistance anyway. They can generate a event number for a positive community interaction. Put house mouses back on street. End this madness.

10/30/2023 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

M.J.P from 05 told me this was the greatest job in the world. Can't wait wait to join tac like him so I can be the real police.

10/30/2023 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It'll never work. The detectives will end up with 24 hours worth of homicides for a week straight. Where does the take home car fit in? Do they work the cases from home after that?

10/30/2023 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without the assist of "the community", the murders will not be solved. And "the community" will not assist, even if the dicks are not pale faced gumshoes. So the murders will continue. The grief stricken mothers will still cry on camera. The community members will still hold marches to "end the violence". No different than the '80's. Or the '90's. Or the 2000's. Or the 2010's. Or the 2020's. It's perpetual, ghetto-style kabuki theatre. This CPD tactic will fit right in.

10/30/2023 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's OK. They will get the 3 percent COLA like everyone else for thier efforts. Right JC?

10/30/2023 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
No chance it will work. The number one reason homicides don’t get solved is due to community cooperation. These communities have been taught to say the reason they don’t cooperate is due to the historical evilness of the Chicago Police Department, but that’s not what it really is. The real truth is that some communities have engaged in (and enjoy) generations of shocking amounts of violence so much that they’ve become comfortable living in that life. Think of a hoarder. Hoarders are content with their living conditions, even though most people would consider pissing and shitting in jars vile and disgusting, the hoarder does not.

The number one reason homicides don’t get solved is due to inexperience. Out of an eight man homicide team only two guys are the brains. The others were Traffic guys that came to the D-Unit and decided to work homicides.

10/30/2023 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but something I have been seeing a lot more of. EVERY police car, every fire dept vehicle hell even the presidential limo (which currently drives around W/ an old man who shuts his diapers when he sees cameras. Every one of these vehicles have something in common…….. anyone? bueller anyone??? A license plate!! Now those reading are asking who cares? Well here is a question that I would like to ask & have a police officer answer. Why the hell is almost EVERY postal vehicle not have a license plate?? Not just in Shitcago, in Yorkville, DeKalb, Lemont everywhere start looking not one vehicle has a license plate. The military recruiting vehicles have them the Federal Police have plates on their trucks every vehicle in Illinois must be licensed! The amount of vehicles W/O plates would solve the debt but no plates….,WTF

10/30/2023 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is property crimes even still around? Or has it been deemed unnecessary?

10/30/2023 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a former Dick it’s called DISASTER!! Wen that idiot McCarthy created the robbery guys working from districts all it did was create a group of dicks that went remote before remote working was cool and even thought of (pre Covid). Them guys became couch detectives.


Who gives a fuck !? This job is garbage. Here’s a tip you grammatically challenged douche … make this job work for you.

10/30/2023 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Just a gurl said...

I like the way fedoras look on men. It reminds me when men were men and guys like me were glad.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

10/30/2023 03:42:00 PM

Oh keesing bandit, real men also make little girls like me glad :)

10/31/2023 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic but something I have been seeing a lot more of. EVERY police car, every fire dept vehicle hell even the presidential limo (which currently drives around W/ an old man who shuts his diapers when he sees cameras. Every one of these vehicles have something in common…….. anyone? bueller anyone??? A license plate!! Now those reading are asking who cares? Well here is a question that I would like to ask & have a police officer answer. Why the hell is almost EVERY postal vehicle not have a license plate?? Not just in Shitcago, in Yorkville, DeKalb, Lemont everywhere start looking not one vehicle has a license plate. The military recruiting vehicles have them the Federal Police have plates on their trucks every vehicle in Illinois must be licensed! The amount of vehicles W/O plates would solve the debt but no plates….,WTF

10/30/2023 09:12:00 PM

If you check the ILCS, vehicles owned by the federal government don't need to be registered.

10/31/2023 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fusions are equipped with full lights and sirens for those wondering. Every area but 3 has homicide teams already. I have seen over the last six years as a detective that the homicide team spots went from “don’t even think about trying to go there for at least a few years” to brand new detectives getting assigned there straight out of their training with no idea how to do a regular closer but they walk around like they’re dick Tracy. Ahh to be young

10/31/2023 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger DG in GA said...
I’m not a LEO, but how are homicide detectives supposed to clear cases when multiple witnesses to the crime absolutely will not cooperate? When you can have 30 eyewitnesses to a murder but “nobody saw nothin’l how are you supposed to “solve” it?

———-

You rely on physical evidence, such as camera footage, tech, DNA, fingerprints, ballistics, etc. However, even if you’re given vital information in an interview, as the witness declines to be “locked in,” which is to say giving, at minimum an audio recorded account, to the states attorney, that evidence will never come into play. The people tend to be pussies that fear retribution. Of course that is typically the way it goes. Once the rest of the evidence is processed and the investigation is complete, you present the case to the state, who then comes back with a continuing investigation (CI) list, which is often an unobtainable request, like track down and bring in every individual on a video recording. At any rate, you can move forward with an arrest sans state consultation but will then have to present the whole case, get the same CI list and have 48 hours (adult offenders) to satisfy their demands. State is ultimately going to decide to approve/deny charges and, with us being sued so much, I wouldn’t advise bringing an offender/s in prior to consulting with state. Of course you can have an in-custody suspect(s) and that’s where you have to just do the best you can with the time constraints.

Regardless, it’s a ridiculous process and state doesn’t want to approve charges unless the starts align and there is the political impetus to do so.

There’s a lot more bullshit but that’s a very basic version of the hoops

10/31/2023 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New idea:

The city is currently hiring civilians to be instructors at the academy. No policing experience required. Never been in a beat car, working their way up from a recruit. It really doesn’t make any sense at all, but really nothing does anymore. Just make yourself laugh by asking this civilian instructor how they did it when they were on the street.

10/30/2023 08:24:00 AM

Got news for you pal, most of the instructors at the academy now don't have any real police experience pushing a beat car. At least with civilians, we won't have to listen to the hour long resume about how they were the real police for those three months while on their field training in the ghetto!

10/31/2023 03:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Off topic but something I have been seeing a lot more of. EVERY police car, every fire dept vehicle hell even the presidential limo (which currently drives around W/ an old man who shuts his diapers when he sees cameras. Every one of these vehicles have something in common…….. anyone? bueller anyone??? A license plate!! Now those reading are asking who cares? Well here is a question that I would like to ask & have a police officer answer. Why the hell is almost EVERY postal vehicle not have a license plate?? Not just in Shitcago, in Yorkville, DeKalb, Lemont everywhere start looking not one vehicle has a license plate. The military recruiting vehicles have them the Federal Police have plates on their trucks every vehicle in Illinois must be licensed! The amount of vehicles W/O plates would solve the debt but no plates….,WTF

10/30/2023 09:12:00 PM
The problem is the plate money would come from taxpayers anyway so zero extra income!

10/31/2023 03:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is by one of the most over paid under worked gigs on this job. If performance was tied to pay in the d unit 95% of dicks would have to work for free.

10/31/2023 04:30:00 AM  
Blogger Tombstone courage said...

In the ghetto. And his momma cries, in the ghetto

10/31/2023 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is property crimes even still around? Or has it been deemed unnecessary?

10/30/2023 09:35:00 PM

...says the newly promoted Det. involuntarily (but excitedly) assigned to homicide, masturbating to his 5th episode of Law & Order

10/31/2023 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Det Crabby said...

Please. Clout babies will just get take home cars. They already have teams. They have tons of computer geek support. Two man jobs are now 15 man jobs. Piss off.

10/31/2023 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City has only ever cared about homicide/violent. All the roll calls (if we had them)/training was geared toward violent.

It's like the anti- broken-windows- theory.


How's that working out for ya, Chicago?

10/31/2023 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every time one of your offenders is acquitted - expect a federal lawsuit!


Enjoy kids!

10/31/2023 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you now where is my hot chocolate? Hold my beer, where is that remote as I am now working remote, that OT slip where is that? Less accountability never thought that would happen. What happened to the d-unit in all the districts showing accountability and working closer with the "you got nothing kid," street coppers?

10/31/2023 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/30/2023 10:01:00 PM

100% correct

10/31/2023 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am missing something here: What about handouts? I have been retired for more years that I want to admit but I spent somewhere around 10 years in Homicide and used to get approximately two/three hands outs a day. Depending on the Sergeant, we were given handouts even on our days off. When the "Homicide Teams" are not on their ten days assignment, do they get handouts? Does the department still investigate Aggravated Batteries, Serious Assaults Etc.? What happens when a homicide is not cleared in the ten-day time period how are these homicides handled? Who investigates the unsolved murders? Are homicides assigned to a particular detective or are they assigned to a particular homicide team?

10/31/2023 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you check the ILCS, vehicles owned by the federal government don't need to be registered.

10/31/2023 12:58:00 AM
And as an FYI, if you ever write one of the post office vehicles or any other federal vehicle a ticket, the vehicle number goes where the plate number is on your ticket.

10/31/2023 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am missing something here: What about handouts? I have been retired for more years that I want to admit but I spent somewhere around 10 years in Homicide and used to get approximately two/three hands outs a day. Depending on the Sergeant, we were given handouts even on our days off. When the "Homicide Teams" are not on their ten days assignment, do they get handouts? Does the department still investigate Aggravated Batteries, Serious Assaults Etc.? What happens when a homicide is not cleared in the ten-day time period how are these homicides handled? Who investigates the unsolved murders? Are homicides assigned to a particular detective or are they assigned to a particular homicide team?

10/31/2023 12:08:00 PM
Many cases closed or are suspended as the new crew will never hold a candle to the "real police!" How many coppers are still living with Mom and dad? Quite a few is the answer they cannot even take care of themselves much less do any real police work! Now give them that car and the work at home ethic is complete!

10/31/2023 04:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slow down. A5 has been doing this for years now. It works. Simple. Ask those guys if they like it. The program was started and refined there.

10/31/2023 06:19:00 PM  
Blogger anonymous said...


10/31/2023 12:08:00 PM
Many cases closed or are suspended as the new crew will never hold a candle to the "real police!" How many coppers are still living with Mom and dad? Quite a few is the answer they cannot even take care of themselves much less do any real police work! Now give them that car and the work at home ethic is complete!

Cant suspend a murder tough guy. Your inability to answer the retired detectives questions let alone make coherent sentences leads me to believe maybe you are the one who can’t take care of himself. Now go tell mom how her big handsome boy was the “real police.” Lot of people want to complain about the perks of a homicide detective but don’t want to do the work or go to court or write search warrants or deal with victim families.

To answer the questions… depending on the area, Agg batt detectives handle shootings, GA handles anything non shooting related, sex dics handle the sex crimes and homicide handles homicides. Homicide dics don’t get handouts and only handle their cases which they are assigned based on a rotation. The new pilot program will have 1 team taking all murders for a week and then having the next 5 weeks to conduct interviews and chase down any leads without constantly having new jobs taking them away from the follow up. The take home car is only for the week you are on call due to having to go to scenes 24/7 for that week. Not like the other people who have take homes and never have to get called out in the middle of the night.

10/31/2023 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am missing something here: What about handouts? I have been retired for more years that I want to admit but I spent somewhere around 10 years in Homicide and used to get approximately two/three hands outs a day. Depending on the Sergeant, we were given handouts even on our days off. When the "Homicide Teams" are not on their ten days assignment, do they get handouts? Does the department still investigate Aggravated Batteries, Serious Assaults Etc.? What happens when a homicide is not cleared in the ten-day time period how are these homicides handled? Who investigates the unsolved murders? Are homicides assigned to a particular detective or are they assigned to a particular homicide team?

Homicide dics don’t get anything besides homicides. Nothing gets put in their inbox. They don’t get fucked with because they are homicide. While every other dic gets loaded up.

11/01/2023 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is by one of the most over paid under worked gigs on this job. If performance was tied to pay in the d unit 95% of dicks would have to work for free.

Amen to that! Score higher on the test buddy!

11/01/2023 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Slow down. A5 has been doing this for years now. It works. Simple. Ask those guys if they like it. The program was started and refined there.

Easy to do in the Area that has by far the least amount of murders. It’s a different beast in the other Areas due to the amount of detectives and the amount of murders. If the city doesn’t provide the cars, it will be right back to 2 watches of homicide detectives.

11/01/2023 08:38:00 AM  

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