Sixty-Five?
Why stay?
The city and many citizens hate us. The stress is through the roof. Every year you stay, you probably take at least three years off your life. The risk of a bankrupting lawsuit increases dramatically. Not to mention the continued damage to your already aging body.
We suppose if you die earlier, there's more pension to go around, and you're all old enough to make your own decisions, but we can't see this effecting more than one hundred people.
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posted by SCC at 8:24 AM
102 Comments:
if you are going to stay that long you are mentally ill
A once proud profession that not many are interested in pursuing a damn shame
Stay on make it 70 your helping the old retired already guys, thanks for helping the pension fund! reality everyday past your max pension your risking going to jail, losing everything, failing health and the pos punk gold badge goofs laugh and drink the wine as your fighting to stay out of prison.The boss "Come on kid, go get them," get that gun and they will say "I never said that!" How about the girl sergeant honored at the community meeting in Garfield ridge for all her hard work, the same girl that is connected and worked inside the court section! Then she had the odyssey to talk about hard work you talk about totally delusional! Not going to name her but wow just incredible getting honored for being a house mouse did she even work a 5 hour day?
Sitting in your car watching ATM thieves steal and drive off with an ATM is stressful? Sitting is what's stressing your body ...
Sadly there are some that see this as good.
We all knew some nutballs during our tenure.
This is the only job in America where you can’t wait to become old. Cops are suffering on this job. And hitting 50 ends the suffering. Many don’t stay until 63 anymore. They surely aren’t going to stay until 65. Hell, a lot leave right at 50. I left at 52. This job wasn’t worth the incredible risk anymore for a lying unappreciative city hall. The brass can’t be trusted. All they care about is themselves. Did anyone hear them stick up for the cops that got shot on the west side? No! What they did to us during Covid was the icing on the cake for me.
only one that will stay is a boss or someone with and exceptions l safe spot inside some where.
the city would be better off hiring retiees back to dospecific jobs off the street.
What a fucked up way to try and fix a problem they themselves created. Idiots.
Thats because we are not being smart about it blog... if we would just stop being proactive and just answer our calls doing the bare min we need to do... there wouldn't be any stress nor lawsuits. At every call where a decision has to be made about going hands on, DONT. Instead retreat, call for a supervisor, and let them make the decision on bwc. STOP trying to proactively police those that don't want us to police them... give them what they want. Enjoy your time off, take your 30 min lunch and both of your 15min breaks, your bathroom breaks, etc. Let's stop letting the people destroy this profession and our life's, when WE have the ability to bring the people to their knees, with even more power then the cps teachers! Until we start working like how we are being treated, we can't cry and blame anyone else but OURSELVES!
Been retired for 4 years retired at 58. The last 4 years have been awesome, can’t imagine going to 65. I would be missing the best part of life is being retired, doing what you want when you want and getting paid every month for doing that.
If it was up to me, I’d send anyone choosing to stay until 63 for a psychiatric evaluation, let alone staying until 65. The majority of people who stayed until 63 have been miserable and difficult to deal with, yet they create their own situation.
Everybody has to do what they have to do but the important thing is you have to be there mentally and physically when you decide to hit the button or you lose.
I remember the brass giving us the pension solvency speech at HO.....I give a doo doo about it, manpower issues, 55 with insurance or squeezing out a few more years for a couple of extra hundred dollars on a pension....CPD died in 2020, the criminals won the war...Outta here once I go by the mandatory age to collect with benefits!
Next up.
1. Step 11/12 pay
2. Age 72 for retirement
3. Yearly power test
4. 80% pension at 35 years
Does that mean the coppers that have retired like myself that we can go back? What are Pension be the same or could we add more to our Pension? I thought the city was going to give the opportunity for the retired coppers to come back and work inside spots and put the able-bodied secretaries with guns back on the streets where they belong, especially with this democratic convention bullshit coming! When you going to the station and you see these young coppers working behind a desk, full duty, making the same pay as the coppers that are in the beat cars. It is ridiculous. just like Larry has been talking about which is a great idea putting the detective unit in marked vehicles and in uniform for more visibility and more accountability, which was an excellent idea helps to add to the presence of police come on Larry time to make some changes no one thinks that anybody that’s not wearing a uniform is not the police, especially your so-called tactical teams. They need to be back in uniform answering calls stand up. come on Larry do the job. .
If you stay to 65 you’re fucking soft in the head
OT. Latest 911 outage in some western states where emergency communications disrupted. Random computer issues or a cyber attack trial run?
AT&T cell service disrupted a few months ago - communications sector. Metra was shutdown for a few hours when their train control system went down - transportation sector. Medical centers Laurie (it may be criminal) attacked shutting its system down -healthcare sector. Law enforcement -public safety sector.
https://ktvz.com/news/national-world/cnn-national/2024/04/17/911-lines-down-in-cities-across-at-least-4-states-officials-say/
Just a coincidence of the different sectors having issues?
Nothing to see here. Just move along is the official response.
Nearly every PO and SGT will tell you they’d love to switch jobs with comparable pay. Sergeant once told me he would trade this job for sanitary work if the pay was the same. How can a 65 y/o grandpa hold on in a fight against a violent domestic offender. Grandpa will have no choice but to shoot the shithead and the go to prison! What an ending.
And some fools will stay…too afraid they’ll die if they retire.
Do teachers work all year? No
Do teachers need 20 or more years for full pension? No
Have teachers ever worked without a contract? No
A 5th year teacher can make more than than a fifth year police Captain (who makes captain in 5 years?)
CPD has COPA to police the police.
Who polices the teachers?
The disparate treatment against police is disgusting. Truth is, cops do the job EVERY DAY, ALL DAY without recourse or venue to redress grievances. Your only option is a full blown sick out. There’s plenty of time to plan. The Dems want to criticize, criminalize and defund the police. Well, they are coming to town…let them enjoy their wish and see a major city with NO police. The world will be watching democrat politicians and their policies at work. DNC in Chicago without a cop in sight.
I know you cannot do it and what does goes wrong even with PERFECT policing, is your fault. The country, state, county and city need to learn once and for all that criminals belong in jail and it starts with a cop willing to stand up to violence.
Maybe one day the teachers will realize they also need the police. As they continue to abuse the system and taxpayers, leaving nothing for the police, it might sink in when they once and for all will need to strap on some Kevlar before their day at work.
Consider all of your personal and family factors, weigh the risks of policing in the city and the lack of support by the political, radical, Democratic lock step voters, their Kangaroo Counts (e.g. COPA) and their lap dog media liars. Make your decision and do it. You owe nothing to the city and the citizens. They all together put you in this position to choose and you should choose wisely. Give them nothing, they want and deserve nothing from you.
Retired here...
You would have to be some kind of dysfunctional moron to stay on this job that late in your life. I know there are guys on their third marriage with new kids in their mid-fifties. That says more about their life choices, doesn't it?? The risk of them having a cardiac event must be sky high...
The old axiom "Poor Prior Planning prevents piss poor results." seems to fit.
I was done raising kids in my early 50's. I left with 25 years in, because I could afford to go. Your life's choices will come into play here. I was maxxed out in deferred comp for a very long time. I never drove brand new cars, or had a new home built in the city, but I did take a copious number of vacations.
From personal experience, the stress takes about 5 years to go away. By then you will return to your normal life expectancy group that you came from. While working I was one of those pretending that the stress didn't get to me. How wrong I was, and you are too if you think that.
Get out early as you can and you will not regret it. I have never looked back and wondered if I made the decision too soon. I have more money now than I did while I was working side jobs and struggling to pay what it cost to live in Chicago. Move out of state and look before you leap. MY house taxes are 1/3 of what they were in Chicago and my house is paid for...again those life choices you are making right now will determine how your retirement goes.
I ride my bicycle daily, and try and wrestle with the monster of aging gracefully. There is a better life just waiting for you if you are making the right choices today...
See you when you get here...
Only those with easy inside never go on the streets spots will stay. And those insecure little person with scrambled eggs on their hats. Look at me ! I'm importamt!
The risk of a bankrupting lawsuit increases dramatically. Not to mention the continued damage to your already aging body.
And they wondered why I retired at 53 with 30 years on. Get in, do your time and get out. Life is good...
Hey let them do it. No one is forcing you to stay. Might be appealing to a few guys. Pension would benefit. Now if they let them do the house cat jobs and put a few of the 25 year old back on the street that would help the manpower shortage but we know that won’t happen
Way back when, the max age was 62.
Hey democRat Politicians... Go Eat Shit. You made this mess.
The only outcome of this measure will encourage the miserable to stay around longer and continue to be a cancer. People who stay longer than necessary are generally unhappy and bring that to work every day. Anyhow they can keep paying into the pyramid scheme so hopefully I'll cash in mine at 55.
The only outcome of this measure will encourage the miserable to stay around longer and continue to be a cancer. People who stay longer than necessary are generally unhappy and bring that to work every day. Anyhow they can keep paying into the pyramid scheme so hopefully I'll cash in mine at 55.
If they were serious they would dump 55 and out.
If you told me I had to stay on this job until that age, I think I would just cut my losses, pile my sheckles together, and just walk away and take my chances. Like posted here, the job is gonna kill you anyway, not worth it.
OT - just finished the Foot Chase elearning. Whoever is responsible for these things, would you just stop it already!? 52 slides with I don’t know how many different drop-ins and clicks?! How many different ways can you say the same thing over and over?! That goes for the majority of elearnings.
The mental checklist that one should typically go through before pursuing someone and heaven forbid using force is ridiculous! Anyway, back to Netflix.
5 years too late for me. I got on late and would have stayed until 65 to boost my pention. I had the best gig in 022 at the time riding a bike down Western Ave. I don't miss it now, though.
Hit the medical...fuck'em...I am at 62
Well now Pritzger got all the suburban pensions funds AND chicago PD/FD pensions wrapped up in one nice ball, he will give it to whom ever he wants.
Far, far less than 100.
There are money whores who will stay - you know - the ones who bitch every sigle day how bad this job is - yet work (7) days a week. There are alarming amount of people on this job who have zero money management skills and go into retirement broke or drowning in debt. The city knows it and it was one of the reasons they came up with the idea. We're all adults here so make your own decision but I wouldn't stay here for any money, any longer than necessary - especially if I had 29+. Be safe, retire early and live the rest of your life in peace - away from this swamp.
Affects about 300 people. Wage slaves and LE lunatics. We can do better though. Raise it to 80 and create another pension tier. Hire felons. They contribute 20% of salary and can’t collect or withdraw it til 60.
This will retain inside people and old bosses at high salaries. It will not do anything to help with manpower. There are very few officers still working the streets in their 60s. Even fewer will continue to do so past 63. If you're locked into an inside spot, have no plans of moving out of this shithole, and plan on getting a job after you retire, you should stay and make the money. Alternatively, if you're 63 and need a new hip, some knees, and maybe a shoulder, stay on and use the medical until you're 65. There will be a lot of people on the medical and IOD from 63-65. You could organize one of those retiree luncheons, but for unretired old folks who are riding it out on the medical.
Politicians only care about their own pensions and not yours.They only care about the next election cycle.Short term mindset.Not your long term health.Every politician should be required to ride with all first responders particularly the police and paramedics who have more direct contact with the citizens of Chicago.In the busiest neighborhoods.
OT
St Louis Sgt can sue for discrimination for being transferred to a less prestigious assignments.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-supreme-court-just-complicated-employer-diversity-initiatives/ar-AA1nfxmP?rc=1&ocid=socialshare&cvid=2ba871a088ab4d52eeaad301e742a917&ei=17
I'm picturing the bank security guard on the Andy Griffith TV show...all grey and withered. Do people really want that copper to show up when they call 911?
We have all seen a 1 year remarkably aged retiree shown up at the station in baggy pants and a loose alligator T shirt. God bless em...but they should keep the mandatory retiree age at 63. If anything, lower it to 60. My .02
Not the police, I’m a retired F/F. All the usual cop F/F jokes aside I’m guessing that fighting W/ a shitbag who wants to kill you is much harder than dragging a hose line W/ 50 pounds of gear on. I’m 58 & couldn’t IMAGINE doing that job now. I love it & miss it everyday as I’m sure most police but these are young peoples gigs!!!! You pulled the pin, keep it pulled! I now live in the suburbs & have a couple of pistols hidden in the house. I’m not worried about a break in but I’m ready if there is. Let the shitty of Shitcago kill itself. Take care of your family, your partner & your friends on the job. Other than those 3 examples let everyone else kill & eat each other. Yes the pension will be happier if you croak but no one else will. You served your time & now you get your trophy for finishing the race in one/oneish piece. Stay home, stay safe & you youngins protect yourselves & 30 seconds after your pension eligible pull the pin & get out of Dodge baby
OT Nice letter to editor in Tribune from a frequent contributor:
“ April 17 at 4:59 AM CT After the release of the video of the shooting death of Dexter Reed, the outcry from the press and public has been loud and clear. So many people have weighed in that I thought I would also as a 33-year veteran Chicago cop.
There is no nice way to arrest a potentially dangerous combative individual. If a person shoots at a police officer after a series of simple commands to exit his vehicle and empties his gun in an attempt to shoot the officer’s partners, he deserves his fate. There is no political correctness in a gunfight when you’re trying to save your life. Wake up, Chicago. If cops are not safe, you aren’t either.
Please show some common sense and courage and wait until all the facts are investigated before making decisions about how cops should react in situations when their lives are in grave danger. — Bob Angone, retired Chicago police officer, Austin, Texas
Will the aldereman work until he is 65? Probably not.
If you are 55 and maxed out, just leave and enjoy life.
I have been retired less than a month and enjoy every day.
Collect as many pension checks as you can.
There are no beat cops older than 55 with 29+ years, and if you are you 'Stoopid"!
Most older cops are in spots and avoid the streets!
That's nothing HB 5211 the tier 2 fix is retroactively raising the retirement age for tier 2 to 62 with 35 years of service. There is a penalty of .5% a month for retiring early. Employees hired between 2011 and 2017 can elect to maintain current retirement age with an increase on the current pension contribution and no cola. Hired after 2017 you get the cola and the pension contribution remains the same but you're going to work until 62. You would think the Flop would have something to say about it, but they don't care about the tier 2 guys.
I got on late so I’ll take more if they serving up more. I try and take care of myself and hope to
Collect till 100. So a few more years buffering and handing out VIN’s is very tolerable. And not everyone hates us and most criminals are too fucking lazy and stupid to follow up on any kind of CR. They squawk and bitch at first but try following up with a fucking crackhead who lives in a tent or flop house to complete a CR investigation. Do your job the way you are trained and expected to and seize the day and cash in.
Bob Angone great guy, I remember him from CHA back in the day. I'm glad to see he is doing well in Austin.
No one will stay until 65
I left 7 years ago. Fire / EMS is stressful, but there's something about now being seen as "the good guys." Alas, I'm now on their side in turf wars with you guys (joking).
Anyone who works this shit show past 55 needs a psychological evaluation
There’s a lot of old timers already very excited about this. They can keep working half shifts at the desk then getting all the overtime they can sign up for. It’s wild how dumb they are.
62 years old 35 years of service coming soon. Did not hear this from anybody at FOP.
https://legiscan.com/IL/bill/HB5211/2023
There are money whores who will stay - you know - the ones who bitch every single day how bad this job is - yet work (7) days a week. There are alarming amount of people on this job who have zero money management skills and go into retirement broke or drowning in debt. The city knows it and it was one of the reasons they came up with the idea. We're all adults here so make your own decision but I wouldn't stay here for any money, any longer than necessary - especially if I had 29+. Be safe, retire early and live the rest of your life in peace - away from this swamp.
Don't forget those who have been married 2-3 times.
Fuck these politicians, the idiots who elect them and this city! I'm leaving ASAP! This city can suck my dick from the back
What in the hell would anyone want to?
morons
I certainly encourage officers to begin making their financial plans long before they retire, and certainly to retire when they hit 50, 55 or whenever works best for them. They can raise the retirement age to 70 if they want to, it does not mean officers will work that long, although some will. Those who came on at the maximum age to join (what is it, 40?), would only have 25 years at age 65. G-d bless them if that is what they want to do. Who is someone else to judge?
But anyone who comments about when another wants to retire should really think twice. If an officer is still pushing a beat car at age 60 that is his matter to worry about, and I am sure that at 60 he is just as unhappy or happy or cranky as he was at 25, 30, 40 or 50. As a PPO in the 1990s (I believe the retirement age was 65 at that time), I saw plenty of old-timers with bars and stars on their sleeves working days in 007. They easily could have bid somewhere else, but they had found their place and did what they were supposed to do. They complained and grumbled, but not like some whiners here do. It seemed pretty easy for them as they knew what to do, how to do it, and how to write it. Sergeants on days had it easy because all those old-timers didn't bother the sergeants, most of them knew more than the sergeants. They taught me and others alot of lessons about police work and life in general (one lesson was to start preparing for retirement by giving as much as I could to deferred comp.)
To those who keep saying, "give them what they ask for", insinuating that we should look the other way when we see crime. Someday that crime might be in your neighborhood, that drug dealer might be selling drugs to your loved ones, that might be your garage being burglarized when the cops following your advice are on a slow roll to your house. Be careful what you wish for.
If the City of Chicago burns to the ground, what will become of the pension fund that we all look forward to? You get paid to do a job, so do what you are paid to do. You don't have to go crazy, proactive out there, that's not in any order, but you get paid to do [some] police work, to respond to calls, to write reports, and make arrests when you can. No order says you have to chase them, but if they are standing in front of you, do what you got to do. If you don't do that much, someday the citizens/taxpayers are going to ask, "Well, what are we paying you for?" This job is not welfare in a uniform, although we've all worked with that poser who wore the uniform but didn't do police work, essentially collecting a welfare check for putting on a uniform and showing up at an office to do nothing. You can say the pension is protected by the State Constitution, but that can change if the wrong politicians get elected in the future. So be careful what you ask for, you might get it.
Great! Give them more time to take your pension. Imagine getting fired or sued at 64.
102 days and counting... HELL NO!
Eureka! Let’s pay the highest paid medical abusers to stay for 2 more years. Fucking genius!
Yes!!! This is the best news I’ve heard all year. I can work until age 65 and hit my 29 and a day. Hopefully I can push it to 66, or until they kick me out!! God I love my job.
I've been retired for a few years. Can I come back? I'm just salivating at the thought of being able to bust some heads at the DNC. The old "wooden shampoo" as we used to call it. I've got my S&W Model 65 6-shot all oiled and ready to go. After busting some heads, we can all go drink some beers in the parking lot of the 13th District. Still got my Chapter 38 complaint book so if I need to do some paperwork, I'm all good. My Bic pen always reliable with that six-page Arrest form-set. Man! I can't wait.
"Anonymous said...
Retired here...
You would have to be some kind of dysfunctional moron to stay on this job that late in your life. I know there are guys on their third marriage with new kids in their mid-fifties. That says more about their life choices, doesn't it?? The risk of them having a cardiac event must be sky high...
The old axiom "Poor Prior Planning prevents piss poor results." seems to fit.
I was done raising kids in my early 50's. I left with 25 years in, because I could afford to go. Your life's choices will come into play here. I was maxxed out in deferred comp for a very long time. I never drove brand new cars, or had a new home built in the city, but I did take a copious number of vacations.
From personal experience, the stress takes about 5 years to go away. By then you will return to your normal life expectancy group that you came from. While working I was one of those pretending that the stress didn't get to me. How wrong I was, and you are too if you think that.
Get out early as you can and you will not regret it. I have never looked back and wondered if I made the decision too soon. I have more money now than I did while I was working side jobs and struggling to pay what it cost to live in Chicago. Move out of state and look before you leap. MY house taxes are 1/3 of what they were in Chicago and my house is paid for...again those life choices you are making right now will determine how your retirement goes.
I ride my bicycle daily, and try and wrestle with the monster of aging gracefully. There is a better life just waiting for you if you are making the right choices today...
See you when you get here...
4/18/2024 11:09:00 AM"
I just got "here" 15 April, and I'll be looking for ya on the bike trails.
So far, the retirement water feels just fine! LOL
The bosses who now stay to 63 and aren’t doing crap, can continue to 65. Unbelievable.
Where I worked I was able to retire at 48. I have never regretted going early, even though it was reduced amount. Go as soon as you can and enjoy it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I got on late so I’ll take more if they serving up more. I try and take care of myself and hope to
Collect till 100. So a few more years buffering and handing out VIN’s is very tolerable. And not everyone hates us and most criminals are too fucking lazy and stupid to follow up on any kind of CR. They squawk and bitch at first but try following up with a fucking crackhead who lives in a tent or flop house to complete a CR investigation. Do your job the way you are trained and expected to and seize the day and cash in.
Okay Cupcake, you stick with that plan. I won't give you a second thought as I hit my driver on the course and have a cocktail during my retirement. I do appreciate your continued payment into the pension though. Hope they raise the age to 70 and you stick around even longer. Cheers.
All the bitterness. I doubt anyone over sixty is on the street. I’m inside and staying until 65, so you’re going to have to wait a few more years for my spot.
That's nothing HB 5211 the tier 2 fix is retroactively raising the retirement age for tier 2 to 62 with 35 years of service. There is a penalty of .5% a month for retiring early. Employees hired between 2011 and 2017 can elect to maintain current retirement age with an increase on the current pension contribution and no cola. Hired after 2017 you get the cola and the pension contribution remains the same but you're going to work until 62. You would think the Flop would have something to say about it, but they don't care about the tier 2 guys.
Oh really? It was you tier 2 guys who voted the current administration in. J Cat is such a great guy!
Affects about 300 people. Wage slaves and LE lunatics. We can do better though. Raise it to 80 and create another pension tier. Hire felons. They contribute 20% of salary and can’t collect or withdraw it til 60.
Many of the Be the Change officers might as well be felons. They were chosen not from beneath the barrel but under it.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
if you are going to stay that long you are mentally ill
4/18/2024 08:29:00 AM
I'm offended. I AM mentally ill and I would never stay til 55 much less 65.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you told me I had to stay on this job until that age, I think I would just cut my losses, pile my sheckles together, and just walk away and take my chances. Like posted here, the job is gonna kill you anyway, not worth it.
OT - just finished the Foot Chase elearning. Whoever is responsible for these things, would you just stop it already!? 52 slides with I don’t know how many different drop-ins and clicks?! How many different ways can you say the same thing over and over?! That goes for the majority of elearnings.
The mental checklist that one should typically go through before pursuing someone and heaven forbid using force is ridiculous! Anyway, back to Netflix.
4/18/2024 12:31:00 PM
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absolute insanity. In my ELEARNING I still have the transgender series that I didn't take yet. I looked at the first couple minutes where they are indoctrinating the little kid and I turned it off. Couldn't take it. No threatening E mails yet so I guess it is not required.
I was watching the Ch 9 news with my CPS 9 year old. They were doing what seemed like a 20 min. piece on the gay parade. My kid blurted out "there are only 2 genders can you change the channel, dad?"
Couldn't have been happier to change the channel.
If you stay to 65 you’re fucking soft in the head
4/18/2024 10:28:00 AM
Both heads.
Rearranged deck chairs on Titanic didn’t work either. And the band played on. Or in this case the Pipers piped.
Folks who r divorced probably would stay so the ex has to wait to get half the pension lol!
Not for nothing, but isn't there a Federal Law, that says Law Enforcement personal MUST retire at age 63?
"Richard J Aguinag said...
Not for nothing, but isn't there a Federal Law, that says Law Enforcement personal MUST retire at age 63?
4/19/2024 06:41:00 AM"
It's 57
"Anonymous said...
All the bitterness. I doubt anyone over sixty is on the street. I’m inside and staying until 65, so you’re going to have to wait a few more years for my spot.
4/19/2024 03:55:00 AM"
Translation:
A) I don't have an identity outside of this job
B) My wife and kids don't speak to me
C) I had kids late in life
D) All of the above
Can you imagine being an old timer & get forced to work with a new liberal snowflake who runs to the WOL & says you did a rule 14 on your paperwork like the pussies in the 10th district did,
Somehow seeing two 65 year olds showing up at the folk’s neighborhood brawl doesn’t inspire too much confidence in a happy ending.
Sarasota County Florida is looking for School Safety Deputies at a good pay rate. You can supplement your pension. Health care is available. Sarasotssheriff.org.
Sorry. Meant Sarasotasheriff.org.
As insane as it would be, I agree that they should raise the age to 80, even 90. These are grown adults and if they choose to stay past the point where they can retire and collect, let them. There will be no disbursements from the pension fund to them while they remain on and they will still be contributing for no increased gain. Win-win situation for everyone else.
Only connected bosses who are triple merit will stay so long. Most of them are afraid to enter back into the real world. This is only proper, because they will be paying into the pension fund for longer, instead of stealing from it...I am all for this! Win-Win!
And if any "Sad Sack" patrolman stays that long on this job, he needs a psych evaluation and a better divorce attorney. Or at the very least, a "life coach" to reccommend better life choices...
.02
And BTW...Veterans already enjoy a hiring preference, so the second half of that ordinance is moot.
Anonymous Richard J Aguinag said...
Not for nothing, but isn't there a Federal Law, that says Law Enforcement personal MUST retire at age 63?
4/19/2024 06:41:00 AM
No
Not that I would recommend people staying on this late in life, but if the City is going to extend mandatory age to 65, then the unions must fight for another step raise after 25 years on the job. After all, if the City wants to entice members to stay on that long, they have to make it worth their while.
Ha ha ha. There will be more dummies than you think staying on this job.
Idiot DemocRats and suck asses strike a agian
4/18/2024 03:20:00 PM
Tier 2 guys pension is determined by the last 8 years, the normal 4 years think about it they have to stay to collect a decent pension. If they only stayed 20 years , the first 5 years would be at the 15 year rate and the last 3 years would be at the 10 year rate. No only would that crush the amount of your pension but it greatly reduce your COLA when you get it
Thank you for paying into the pension
Not for nothing, but isn't there a Federal Law, that says Law Enforcement personal MUST retire at age 63?
No federal law, this was the age Mayor mumbles Daley put into place right after his godfather retired at 71. There was no age to retire until Townsend retired.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And BTW...Veterans already enjoy a hiring preference, so the second half of that ordinance is moot.
4/19/2024 09:56:00 AM
Look at how this city treats veterans, they'll give the resident free city stickers to keep them here. I know I will continue to use that to my advantage like my other veterans I told of.
AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Anonymous said...
All the bitterness. I doubt anyone over sixty is on the street. I’m inside and staying until 65, so you’re going to have to wait a few more years for my spot.
4/19/2024 03:55:00 AM"
Translation:
A) I don't have an identity outside of this job
B) My wife and kids don't speak to me
C) I had kids late in life
D) All of the above
4/19/2024 07:40:00 AM
The hate oozes from your post. Are you that miserable that you have to knock someone else’s situation in life? What is it to you the reasons someone sticks around past 60? Worry about yourself and what you will be doing at that age, who knows maybe you will find yourself in the same boat when your time comes. Take notice, and plan so you can leave earlier and enjoy your sunset years. Consider your self fortunate if you can afford to leave before 60. Stay safe until then.
Chuckie!
Perfect for the guys on their 3rd marriage or have kids to pay for/ex wife to pay for.
Everyone should be happy for what they have and not worry about others. For reasons of our own our children and our families we make choices Don’t worry about others. One choice doesn’t fit all
Stay healthy and enjoy life, things could be worse
Question, if you are retired & then decide to go back if you mess something up & get in trouble if they fire you does that bounce back to your original pension?? Think about this, all of remember “The good ole days” you could give someone an attention getter or attitude adjustment but now a days everyone including the Police have a camera. You crack someone in the ass W/ your night stick & you’re brought up on charges will you lose your pension??? IF SO the biggest reason to stay on the sidelines not to mention what was said about 65 year old guys/gals in riot gear in August in Shitcago. A recipe for disaster
Sadly, I knew guys on this job who came to work every day for a long time, and then one day they didn't show up for work. A well-being check on their home turned out to be really bad news. The worst kind...
Take care of yourselves, and leave as soon as you can...
G-d speed brethren...
I have an idea?? How about the alderman go fuck off
I'm never coming back..!
Keep the COLA raises coming...I plan on living for a good long time. An old timer once told me "This is the only job in the world that pays you more the older you get."
He was right...!
Sadly, I knew guys on this job who came to work every day for a long time, and then one day they didn't show up for work. A well-being check on their home turned out to be really bad news. The worst kind...
Take care of yourselves, and leave as soon as you can...
Amen. This is the most meaningful post yet. I too have seen many coppers end up just as you described. It's more than sad and I've missed them all.
May they all Rest In Heaven
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