Here We Go Again
The ShotSpotter technology isn't even gone from utility poles and the lib-tards over at the Tribune have tapped one of their tame monkeys to attack the next target (paywalled article - find a proxy server to get around it):
The police radio crackled with a report of six gunshots near a busy corner in Humboldt Park. In a city that has struggled more than most to solve serious crimes, this summer 2023 shooting offered detectives an immediate advantage. At that corner, police had long ago mounted one of thousands of sophisticated surveillance cameras, the kind that could rotate around a 360-degree view, or zoom in to see activity up to four blocks away.
Sure enough, records show, an officer tapped into a live feed from the camera in time to see that a wounded victim had managed to get inside a restaurant. But the camera hadn’t captured images of the shooter. No video from the camera was put into evidence, and the case, like so many others, remains unsolved.
What happened that night in July 2023 underscores the potential and, at times, futility of the city’s massive, 20-year bet on a network of cameras typically affixed to utility poles across the city. In the shadow of the 2001 terrorist attacks and in a city with persistent crime problems, then-Mayor Richard M. Daley pushed the so-called Police Observation Devices as a game changer, one that would “stop violent crime before it occurs.”
Two decades, hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of cameras later, an Illinois Answers Project and Chicago Tribune investigation has found that reality has fallen far short of those early promises. While installing thousands of police surveillance cameras has undoubtedly helped catch criminals and solve crimes, Chicago’s ever-growing system has yet to become the crime-fighting panacea Daley predicted.
We've railed against a lot of this for years....tens of years. All the cameras ever do is increase the chances that your victimization is preserved on video in the unlikely event of an apprehension and prosecution. More likely, it ends up being FOIAed and put on one of those ghoul websites or passed around on social media.
The two purposes of cameras (and ShotSpotter for that matter) is/was:
- to make money via a connected contract for someone who would then make a sizable donation to the appropriate political candidate, and
- to make money via electronic storage for someone who would then make a sizable donation to the appropriate political candidate.
Forget gigabytes. Does anyone have any idea what storage companies charge for terabytes? Petabytes? Chicago has thousands of POD cameras, all sorts of red-light and speed cameras, not to mention squad car cams, body cams, and drone/helicopter footage, all generating TONS of data on an hourly basis. And all of it gets stored for a looooooong time.
Petabytes might be a thing of the past already.
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Ask Kamala Harris on what cloud this information is stored. As she said, “Up there”. What an absolute moron.
Paywall? Try this. Put "archive.is" in front of the "www" portion of the web address. Example: "https://archive.is/www.chicagotribune.com/2024/09/29/chicago-police-cameras/"
The answer is better cameras. 360 view cams. Many of the pods we have now barely work and are singular focused. Mall security cams are better than our cams because at least they can see 360.
**Petabytes might be a thing of the past already.**
Giga-watt-zillion is my guess...
The ONLY cameras on poles this city wants is the one that makes money..speed/traffic light cameras!!! PAY UP
You must have never set foot in a SDSC or ATC. They save coppers asses every day, and I'm not talking CR#'s. They catch more shit in 2 hours than the wagon guy sitting under the tree does in a month. Like Shotspotter, they take this away and YOU THE RESPONDING COPPER is at risk.. Most of these cameras are NOT even OWNED by the City. They are other customers WHO PAY ALL and CPD just gets to see them. CPS, CHA, UC, Wrigley, Comesky, Navy P, McCormick, Boaf airports... etc etc etc.. Walk into a SDSC/ATC and tell them about a good arrest or heads up to a responding copper latley.. They axe them.. ok, remove the cameras.. how do you see that? Answer YOU DON'T.
Come a long way since the “1’s & 0’s” class I took at Daley college.
Who cares, it is better when some of them don't make it to hospital. Brandon is still better than Lori
Wait till they get the bill on the BWC storage!
**Petabytes might be a thing of the past already.**
After peta- comes exa-, then zeta-.
Those are the scientific multipliers up to 10^24, there is not an official table for groupings past that.
No, it does not get stored for a long time. 45 to 90 days. If you request the footage, you get a disc. Evidence.com data however, does get stored for a long time.
Security cameras have been in banks since the sixties. Still hasn't stopped bank robberies either...
We in the Sdsc room have worked long and hard for our spot in the dark room ! We can’t - we won’t- go back to the streets so KNOCK IT OFF
https://illinoisanswers.org/2024/09/29/chicago-police-camera-surveillance-fail-deliver-promise-fight-crime/
Free one.
You can take the cameras down. Where are we supposed to get all the Youtube videos of people being shot, run over, and just generally being stupid?
Agree with previous commenter. Need to upgrade the cameras and hook them into a facial recognition system but ACLU/Northwestern/BEZ/Scum-Times will go nuts.
002 has POD footage from Sat. night of guy setting his head on fire in the process of torching a car. Its great, it really warned my heart.
Thank You! I have on rare occasion a need to read a Fibune article.
1. The camera is broken.
2. The camera is pointed somewhere else.
3. Nobody is watching the camera and nobody is going to review the footage
4. Nobody is going to get convicted on video evidence alone.
5. Judges and prosecutors prefer photos that fit neatly in file folders. What is this new thing called "video"?
Watch the Loevy & Loevy lawsuits commence, demanding punitive damages for absence of shot-spotter data-collection to rescue gunshot victims.
Just read where the woman shot and not found for two days was 18. Life is cheap in those areas...
Camera System, + GPS Chip Technology, + Facial Recognition, + A.I. Tech =1984. Who would have thought BiG Brother is Toni Prickwinkle.
Pedro Martinez refused to be bullied by mayor Conehead. He’s smarter ,more qualified than Conehead . Conehead got bitch slapped by Pedro. He’s denying he ever requested,suggested that Pedro step down. Pedro has testicular fortitude,Conehead needs over 100 armed bodyguards.
With all due respect, this post shows that you obviously haven’t a clue as to what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe seek some information before you take a side.
Not at risk when you take your time and get to the shooting scene around 14 minutes after pookie shoots pookie. Its all about self preservation, staying fetal and going home to where you are needed. Screw everything else!
Years and years ago when the body cams were proposed, I asked about all the associated costs: Bandwidth, power, chargers, batteries, spare parts, video storage, legal hold storage, camera leasing and maintenance costs and so on...
Figured that the camera companies would basically give away the cameras just to get the data storage fees racking up...
Here ya are...
SDSC and ATC aren’t even remotely the same thing. What you’re describing sounds like SDSC.
Have the cameras show a 360 degree angle all the time? Do you know how many more officers they’ll need in there to stare at that many separate camera angles? Commanders will run out of side pieces to hide in there!
Hang in there Pedro.
So are you in favor of cameras and shot spotter or not?? Imo we should have cameras everywhere alongside drones. It works pretty well in jolly London.
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