Told Ya So
This entire past three days has been more and more of this crap:
The head of a civilian oversight commission complained Thursday that proposed changes to the Chicago Police Department’s controversial traffic stop policy would still allow drivers to be pulled over for minor traffic offenses.
The Community Commission for Public Safety and Accountability said officers should be banned from making stops for certain violations, such as missing only a front license plate, a nonfunctioning headlight or loud music.
“In a city [where] I can get robbed and it takes them an hour to show up on the scene ... why would we have police officers pulling people over for a light bulb on the top of their license plate?” asked commission president Anthony Driver.
Um....because it's against the f#$%ing law you ignorant dumbass? And as we pointed out the other day, ninety-two percent of these types of traffic stops end with, "Fix it and have a nice day."
And guess what is revealed?
- The police department is struggling to get by with nearly 2,000 fewer officers than it had just a few years ago, which also motivated the commission’s stance.
And the big wave of retirements is beginning in May. Well over SIX HUNDRED have declared their intent to retire this year, and that doesn't count additional mandatory retirements, spur-of-the-moment fed up cops, lateral transfers, separations or unfortunate deaths. And remember, bosses only have to give thirty day's notice.
One aldercreature gets it:
Ald. Anthony Napolitano (41st), a former police officer, argues that traffic stops can be effective in uncovering more serious crimes. He pushed back against the commission’s proposed limitations.
“As you make your stops based on laws and somebody breaking those laws, other crimes are usually discovered at that time,” Napolitano told the Sun-Times. “It’s called good policing. You’re maintaining and monitoring the neighborhoods you’re sent to.”
But he used to be one of us.
This is the way it's going though:
Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara said he attended two public sessions hosted by the commission but believes his feedback fell on “deaf ears.”
“I say give them the city they want. ... Eliminate all of these pretextual traffic stops altogether,” Catanzara said. “Don’t stop nobody. Let’s stop getting guns off the street. Let’s stop getting armed robbers and aggravated battery offenders off the street, because that’s what a lot of these traffic stops lead to. Let’s just stop it all. No problem.”
Sounds familiar.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
82 Comments:
"The head of a civilian oversight commission complained Thursday that proposed changes to the Chicago Police Department’s controversial traffic stop policy would still allow drivers to be pulled over for minor traffic offenses."
THE ABOVE comment is probably one of the dumbest fucking comments in the history of the world.
Our Nation is truly doomed if we keep voting for the Left.
Let’s be honest, just give out stickers like the yellow yield sign for the back window “Black or Brown Driver on Board” and that’s your cue to let the driver do whatever the F they want, because this is what it’s actually about.
hes a special case just like his dispatcher mother who got fired. fuck oemc
I don’t understand how some commission, group of Alderman or even the mayor can say stop enforcing a law. The proper way is to just change the law, amend the law, retract the law, eliminate the law. If having burnt out headlights, tail, or break lights is ok, say so in the law books.
“ Ald. Anthony Napolitano (41st), a former police officer, argues that traffic stops can be effective in uncovering more serious crimes. He pushed back against the commission’s proposed limitations.”
And when will the other 49 crawl out of their shells and endorse what Alderman Napolitano had to say?
If you don't want me pulling someone over for a missing license plate bulb, don't make it illegal.
But don't make it illegal, then claim that pulling someone over for it is somehow racist.
Getthefuckoutaherewiththatbullshit.
The Community Commission and the District Councils are full of a bunch of lazy individuals that have never worked a real job, but get a kick out of telling the police what to do. They need to get rid of the city ordinance that created the Commission and district councils.
Aren't all traffic stops "pretextual"?
If they weren't then there would be no need to ask for a DL .... or to run the driver's DL/name. If they weren't you would simply ask the driver to show you proof of their identity, write the ticket and be done with the stop.
OT
the dude in 020 that paints his nails in my little pony colors... so, that's allowed now? Or is that one more thing white shirts and inspectors are too scared to correct?
“And the big wave of retirements is beginning in May. Well over SIX HUNDRED have declared their intent to retire this year…”
This number pretty much jives with the 600 of us hired between ‘90 and ‘91.
Things are going to get ugly this year. Watch for your union Prez J-Pussy to sell all of you out to 12 hour days once Killing Season picks up steam.
Residency lawsuit needs to be filed!
The city should put it on the ballot. Do you want to restrict police officers from stopping people for certain violations.
Ald. Anthony Napolitano (41st), a former police officer, argues that traffic stops can be effective in uncovering more serious crimes. He pushed back against the commission’s proposed limitations.
Time to step up and throw your fedora in to the mayoral ring Ant-nee, show these turds who's got the biggest stick in the game
What could possibly go wrong with people driving around with no license plates on their cars and all types of compliance violations which make the operation of vehicles unsafe.
"Father, forgive them. They know not what they do."
They have no idea what they are doing if they restrict traffic stops. Do they think police will be more willing to do stops when it matters after this? Do they really think this will make their communities safer? This was the foreseeable problem with these community, civilian groups. They don't understand police work.
since only the black and brown neighborhoods complain about police doing traffic stops,,,, how about just conducting traffic stops in white neighborhoods
Sorry Mr Driver. Supreme court says I can. I'm doing it. You f**k with me, you'll be talking to my lawyer.
Why would anyone still be doing traffic stops?
Give them the city they want and let them become victims.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
CPD invited that hoodtrash Driver to CPDs civilian simulator for cops, he apparently still thinks the cops "target black and brown people just because." Stop doing anything, and let this city along with this side of the state burn to hell. Let them shoot each other and let their gangbanging kids rot with them.
Civilian oversight commission gets to make laws now?
Can't wait to see what the city looks like after a year of this.
Should have already "just stopped" doing this already. If you haven't been sleeping the last 10 years since St Floyd, this city and blue ones like it are doomed and they will be crying for more police activity but it will be to late then. You reap what you sow fools.
The job of a police officer is more critiqued than any other profession in the world. I’ve never heard a random guy say,” you know, that cardiologist should have started his surgery on the Bronchi instead of the Aorta. I’ve never heard of a commission set up to critique a plumber or electrician and tell the plumber or electrician how do his job. The bottom line I’m trying to point out is that none of theses idiots that are trying to change the rules are the police or have ever been the police , but they know what’s best for the city in terms of policing and public safety. The city should get rid of these clowns and leave the job of a police officer up to people that are actually police officers. Just a thought.
I’ll stop doing traffic stops if reduce my property taxes by $10,000.00. Why? Because the city will be even more dangerous and I need motivation to stay in a Wild West city.
Hire felons, 3rd pension tier. Make them pay 25%.
I was pulled over in Wyoming for going 2 over the limit!!!! This, on the Interstate. Was polite to the Trooper. Where was I earlier. Where was I going to. Showed insurance and rental car agreement. I was polite. I got a warning slip. All was done. That's life.
600 retirees in 2025 seems generous. Thats 50 in every month, and we havent seen those kinds of numbers yet this year. Were at 68 for the year on record so far.
Are we doing traffic stops or aren't we? I would rather sit under a shade tree in a city park, eating a sandwich and working out a crossword puzzle than doing traffic stops and be branded as a racist or a fascist. Perhaps the department should come up with a traffic stop unit employing with the appropriate in-service training to avoid problems of alleged profiling.
How many do they have in the academy?
I say write everyone! No more breaks. This will end up like body cameras. BLM wanted cameras, they got em. Now that the world can see BLM acting like assholes, they want the cameras gone. Same thing with traffic breaks. Tell them on camera: I WAS gonna let you go, but now I can't. You should thank the CCP-SAP for the ticket. The public will hate these clowns and demand that they be disbanded.
Soon Chicago will be Garynwith Tall Buildings!
No…do you want police restricted from stopping certain people
What a clown.
A search of CCPSA boss Anthony Driver reveals this
Additionally, he has firsthand experience with public safety issues, having been one of the 9,000 Chicago residents who were robbed in the previous year.
Expect more robberies, dork.
They know exactly what they are doing. Everything that's happening here and in the country is intentional. A lot of dumb people just don't see it.
>>>>say so in the law books.
Which ones, the state motor vehicle code? The aldermen might have a tough time there.
Stops are good to get arrests but who cares about individual arrest numbers nowadays? Everyone gets an early duck, even the do nothings. Don’t get a bonus for arrest or any recognition other than maybe an honorable mention piece of paper.
Let each aldercreature decide if they want traffic enforcement in their ward.
Nine dead(so far). All done by a car. Time to ban those assault cars.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/27/world-news/vancouver-filipino-festival-driver-was-known-to-police/
I don't understand the sentiment of "give them the city they want." NO! Fight for the city you love. Don't give in to despair; don't be the victim. These are the times that try peoples' souls! As 10:17 wrote, write those tickets to everyone and explain why. Write op-eds; eventually some of them will be published. The union chief should make himself available to every news outlet he can to pass along the message (there have to be news reporters sympathetic to the police, reach out to them). Get politically active and get people to run against the dunderheads in the City Council.
In the immortal words of DJT immediately after almost getting his head blown off, "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
They done it numerous times before , always lost. A waste of time. Only place that ever got the residency were the ones that got it thru an agreement or settlement
My mother retired from CPD years ago before it got worse and i have to agree with the way politicians are the non sense, the moral of CPD, the chances of losing what you worked for the later years folks i have to say....
If i was in the shoes of current officers ID BE PLAYING THE GAME they want! why chance your career on those that dont want you there DO as little as possible let the fucking city crumble. Take the calls you get and thats it, Drive to each and every call with due regard VS mach speed. FUCK EM. I have no sympathy for the voters or politicians anymore of that city. They constantly steal your money thru all their ways of taxing, tickets, parking, etc The voters voted them in and thats what they want LET THEM HAVE IT let them become victims of their own Bullshit until they learn they want to change things.
Voters of chicago and IL are like the chicago bears every year they make the same mistakes and every year history repeats itself with the same thing. HELL the smart officers ARE leaving for a better life and more friendly environment WHY ARENT YOU thats because some of you are also part of the voting BULLSHIT. Its simple you either work, be unhappy and complain about it while continuing your bad voting, Or you leave for a better life and dont say I CANT my kids or my wife or my family they will get over it pick up and go to greener pastures and a happier life. Stop depending on someone else to change it for you cause only you control your lifes choices. ANyone who continues a job they are unhappy about or anything in life is on you either stfu or grow a pair and change your path in life and career. Its not easy but neither is playing russian roulette with that shit hole infest city of bullshit
Finally a reasonable person. Same should be done with chasing vehicles
lets be honest to the whole pulling people over for a front plate is just a money grab just like the city stickers and all the other BS things chicago over charges for. the majority of the US only has one plate and its on the back. the irony in the south where they only have one plate on vehicles and more crime is solved then in chicago and faster not to mention FAR SMALLER departments. Among other things.
The dipshits would vote it in.
Same with a guy in 009. Piercings, nail paint and jewelry.
We are Gary with tall buildings.
Welcome to Thunderdome...
That trooper is a bonafide clown.
If you’ve stayed 35 years on the job, you’ve problems.
That’s pretty much what the white liberals are ok with- until you pull them over.
The one truth in life I’ve learned is that the people who point out racism at every turn, it’s that they generally are pretty racist.
Fuck that- you see who the public elected. There’s this thing called logic. If you don’t want police enforcing laws- then rescind the laws you don’t want enforced.
In many parts of the world, traffic enforcement is not done by the police. The same as parking enforcement is not done by the police in Chicago anymore (mostly). This is the way it should be. The traffic enforcement hard-chargers are universally hated with white-hot hate. Meanwhile, the police are respected. It also helps that the police officers are carrying submachine guns.
The second Thursday of next week.
No.
They just get to tell you which ones you're allowed to enforce.
Change the Illinois Tracfic Laws legally in court, no more of these “Rules for thee, but Not for Me” bullshit, just because someone lives in on area of the State, it invites confusion and additional stress for Law Enforcement Officers, who will end up experiencing arguments from pissed off motorists driving thru the State
Similar situation in TX.
Speed limit is 75.
79 is allowed.
80 WILL get you a conversation with a trooper.
Got stopped 6 times in 18 months. (usually cresting a hill with cruise set to 78)
Every stop was exactly the same -
Polite, professional LEO.
License and rental agreement.
Where you going to/from.
Verbal warning.
Have a nice day.
I have the solution. Buy every Police Officer a marked car, assign officers on firefighters schedules, 24 on 48 off. Put Murphy beds in police stations,I’m sure small businesses would allow a couple Murphy beds in there businesses. Patrol division officers will only respond to violent crimes. Other crimes can be reported vis computer,burglary,thefts,domestic violence
Maybe domestic violence send out a social worker. Have cameras installed ,drones to capture equipment violations,if not repaired within 30 days. Streets and San can tow the vehicles.
City hall voted these laws into place and now an appointed council is going to make changes to this?
Give them what they want. Let the city burn further. Stay safe fuck Larry and yo-yo cone head and fatass
Yeah, the rank & file aren’t voting in 12 hour days. 10 hour days, now that’s a different story. That would pass, best schedule I’ve ever had on the job.
Now, how does that affect manpower, if we went to 10hours? City can now hire less, meaning less people putting into the pension. That’s not good for a pension system on the verge of collapse
Love the above comment!!!
One night while on his way back to Bridgeport , mayor Ritchie noticed that he had not seen any traffic stops conducted on the south side. He had left a church near 95th and King Dr. and was driven home on major streets avoiding the Dan Ryan. The next morning C.O.s of each district he passed through were called on to explain the lax traffic enforcement. Things sure have changed.
One less since the kid with his brothers pants on got caught dirty...a few more will piss hot before graduation. A few female recruits will file sexual hartassment charges before graduation and the department will give them a sweet spot inside. You know, the usual...
"Who runs Bartertown..?"
If you came otj at 21 and need the health insurance, you’re gonna have to stay 34 years to get it. After that?…
Maybe some people took a promotion after 51 years of age and need/want the 4 years in grade to get the max pension bump. And don’t forget… many people have great spots on this job and staying to do next to nothing for well over a 100k a year past 55 isn’t skin off their teeth.
You do you and quit worrying about what everyone else does, kid.
-1
I would love to be the officer that pulls over Anthony. I give no breaks and he would not like it. I also know the bonding process inside and out with the new system. Any statements such as do you know who I am will have a UCR generated for intimidation and a CB # attached. Let’s play!
No, there is no such thing as a pretextual stop. Either a lawful or unlawful one. If the lawful stop leads to something else, that’s separate. If it’s an unlawful stop then you are retarded and need to be fired anyway
What they need to do is list every traffic law that they don't want enforced, then they need to get the law changed. But I agree with Cat, just stop, let it burn. The dept can continue their DEI train wreck and allow the fantastic leadership to come up with solutions for crime. I can't wait. Yoyo can draw on the 6 arrests she made during her career in box 1 to come up with viable crime reducing strategies.
Napolitano does nothing all year and just rants a couple times of year and officers feed off his nonsense. Its easy to talk about t-stops but go sit with the mayor and alderman and make public safety a priority. But he doesn't care because he will win every 4years because he is for us. His ward by far has the worst infrastructure in the city. A major street like Oriole is all messed up by a park. Edison Park and Norwood park you need a tank to drive so you do not get a flat tire. He is laughing to the bank and everyone allows him to.
Fuck off TROLL
Eh, I hate this fucking city.
Master Blaster...
Amen...
So, they want a State where state laws are enforced in some jurisdictions but not other jurisdictions?
And what could possibly be the penalty for a Chicago police officer who took an oath to uphold the law when he tickets a person who violates state law and at the same time the officer is violating a department policy?
Are Chicago police to become the enforcers of laws that are only approved by this non-elected commission?
No the racist part comes in when you do not write the ticket to the racistly challenged driver
Change the state law then. You want to do away with certain traffic related offenses, change the law. Most of it is a money grab.
Run your mouth about Naps all you want but that man has stopped more Section 8 housing than you could ever imagine. Without him, the ward would be like the 30 sector of 025.
They have? Do you have the case file name?
🤣 now this is funny. The movers would be dismissed before it hits a court room and the arrest won’t make it through Felony Reject. Intimidated by someone saying do you know who I am? I knew an officer that wrote a mayor up from an adjacent town, the ticket was non-suited, and he was dumped off his car the next day and put on a foot post. You would be Pro Se and left out to dry and if your lucky they might let you work station security. 🤣
This city is a burning fire pit. Give them what they want. Let Yo-Yo and Snelling burn with it. No tickets for one month.
Post a Comment
<< Home