Show Us the Money!
How does $14 Million balloon to $195 million (maybe even more)?
Compound Interest AND penalties baby!!!
Already facing massive yearly budget deficits, the city of Chicago could face a bill in the hundreds of millions of dollars for police overtime in a long-running case on behalf of 8,500 current and former Chicago Police Department employees.
It’s been nearly 10 years since the case was filed and almost five years since a federal judge ruled in favor of the officers, who argued that the city “willfully violated” labor laws by miscalculating overtime pay they were due over a span of years.
But the two sides are still fighting over how much the city will have to pay.
An expert hired by the officers says the city owes the cops somewhere between $310 million and $450 million, court records show. City Hall’s hired expert says it’s much less — no more than about $195 million.
Even that is far more than the $14 million the city could have settled the case for at the start, Paul Geiger, a former police union attorney who represented the police officers who sued, said after a court hearing Thursday.
Remember, this was filed ten years ago....and the FOP won it five years ago. The City was playing fast and loose with how OT was calculated (as they often do) and went with the paying the lowest possible rate because the City is always crying poor and CPD can't take any labor action to force an honest negotiation.
And this time, it's going to cost them tens of millions of dollars. A sergeant acquaintance tells us the PBPA has a separate lawsuit regarding a VRI payout that - again - they won in court, but the city is - again - refusing to pay. Can anyone confirm?
Conehead isn't solely to blame - this dates back to before Groot and started with the 9.5 Digit Midget. But any one of them could have stepped up and just ended it, but you can't let the cops have a win, even if a Federal judge says they were the wronged party.
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They play with our tax monies as if they owned us.
Does anyone know how far back this goes. I retired some time ago and if I'm due some money I'll gladly take it.
Hopefully it will be like getting a smaller version of our retro check. That would be nice
We have to wake up. Let’s be realistic. The city doesn’t pay. You and I pay as taxpayers.
The city disrespects their officers and upper management.
And the Hold the line Covid officers want there money too plus 7%
At what point does a judge make the city show its assets? If this were a civil case one party has its wages garnished. Could that happen? In addition, it's possible the city will add this to its debt obligations and go bankrupt and we get pennies on the dollar. Are there status updates on this at court from time to time?
Imagine that 🤔🤔 a democrat leader not following orders of a federal judge.
God I love President Trump!!!
The level of financial incompetence and disastrous management of this city is beyond belief.
Absolutely no one but Democrats to blame.
Pay up assholes. I’m wearing out golf clubs down here in the sunshine state.
Funny how quickly they’ll settle lawsuits for pieces of shit for “police misconduct” but won’t do the right thing when the right thing is needed in paying us!! Assholes!
Pay me my money. Daddy needs a new boat!!!!!
When you ain't got nothing you got nothing to lose. Except they keep paying criminals and their families millions upon millions...
YES on the PBPA lawsuit.
Sgts and LTs never got the 45 minutes a tour for VRI.
MILLIONS are owed.
Yes the city owes me approximately $5000.00 for stripping and suspension days for the unconstitutional Covid portal policy.
Pay me motherfuckers!
Perfect timing! I need to stuff an envelope full of cash and slip it to Ed Burke. I hear there is a new promotion list going up.
Fuck you pay me!
At least as far back as 2010 through 2012
We aren’t going to get shit. Weak ass union and a democommie city. Nobody cares about us and they already spent that money on housing feeding illegals
" Fuck you pay me.." "Goodfellas"
10yrs
The city admitted they owe officers a total of $165 million. That amount because of interest over the last 10 years. A lawyer representing the officers puts the total at $375-$450 million.
Retired seven years ago and escaped to Texas. The City of Houston had a judgement against them for back pay owed to its fire fighters. The can had been kicked down the road for over ten years before a new mayor finally decided to pay up. With interest and penalties the settlement came up to much, much more than the original figure. The city kept hoping the firefighters would accept shit payout offers from them but they wouldn't. I'm sure a lot of guys paid off their mortgages with the back money. Stay strong boys and girls and remember " ..FUCK YOU..PAY ME..". Make em pay.
You may have to bequeath the settlement to your great grand children.
Will officers who left the dept get paid for this if they worked during that time frame?
This check will be a nice retirement bonus. Thank you Rahm!
They will steal it all back eventually.
Gimme dat
The sergeants suit was for the city's refusal to pay the .75(?) hour supervisors get for each tour worked. This was not added on for special enjoyment (VRI, CHA, etc ). The court said it didn't matter, a tour is a tour. The case is some Greek sgt. v the City. Looks like I'm owed two checks!
The (the city) wants to break you down, beat you and make you weak. It's like contract negotiations. Beat you and beat you. As said above, if the payout is to a thug who got a hangnail on a police chase, then the city has no wiggle room, never goes lower and gleefully pays --- and do you think the new millionaire "victims" stay in the Windy City?
The 7th Circuit is the reason, they have granted the city unlimited excuses and extensions for many years. It’s all public record.
I don't think this is a Fop or Pbpa lawsuit.
Many officers and sergeants will be getting almost 100000 each or more. The city is screwed that it waited so long.
Pay me in Dogecoin
We should have the city take the funds owed to us and deposit it in our pension fund. It would be a win win for all of us. Who needs a heavily taxed back payment anyway.
Just one way to make a mockery of the Federal Judge and the Federal court system.
The City does not like paying out to Normal People.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
that is those that vote the thieves in
You will not see this in the City of Chicago's and the Police Department's litigation report. Only individuals or groups of officers are mentioned. Also, non-sworn personnel are not in this "shame" report.
convicted felon,lol
Don’t spend that money to quickly a corrupt judge will let the city off hook
100000 seems excessive
ya ok chump ill give you my money!
Speaking of money. I just heard the Hiring calendar that they publish now to let people know when a class may be- has errors. A PO waiting for sgt says the next scheduled class is postponed because city crying broke. Wasn’t the purpose of that because it was mandated by the consent decree?
How many detective short? How many sgts? How many Lts? Not to mention the command staff. Didn’t 001 commander retire yesterday? Who’s that replacement? Area 3 deputy chief ? Commander academy and so on. The higher rank promotions force lower rank promotions and ultimately movement! I guess we pick and choose what consent decree mandates like span of control we decide to follow.
Dude give it up already! The white Alderman have no power anymore.
Great story
You getting the flsa wages too if you worked in any overtime programs prior to the blue slips. The lawsuit now includes almost all overtime except cta, court, and extensions gping back to about 2005. Apparently, winter jackson didn't know the diffrence from ot wages and flsa ot. I guess diva lawyer was wrong!
Yes
Maybe mayor Brandon Johnson can ask the CTU to take a 6% pay cut.. and maybe he can take a pay cut
The unions have nothing to do with this lawsuit. Not a single thing! This was a strict violation of federal and state law. The only union involvement is for the pay tables and to properly calculate flsa overtime.
The miscalculation started under Daley. Read the court file.
None, lawsuits don't work like that.
Hahaha. You idiot. People will be getting money but in some cases it will be cents per hour of OT miscalculated. Then deduct taxes. So if they erred on 2000 hours of OT during the timeframe of the lawsuit and let’s say the fmla OT rate was an extra .75 cents average then you are looking at 1500 before taxes.. this isn’t covering the entire career, just specific years..
But they have money for new tests - what a waste
How can they cry broke and then have a new dick exam and LT exam in the same year
Convicted by a corrupt demoRATic judge & system you Fucken troll (04:26:43), lol
You lost me at “upper management”
That's the worst investment advice ever.
Nothing new here- now move along !
Anonymous
Yes the city owes me approximately $5000.00 for stripping and suspension days for the unconstitutional Covid portal policy.
Pay me motherfuckers!
7/19/2025 08:15:45 AM
The city owes every single officer they pushed out, stripped, suspended, in no-pay status and through BIA's non-sense full expungements, reimbursement+compensation, and their jobs back as if they NEVER left like the other unions they did it to. Fortunately the city and FOP don't care.
We truly live in the twilight zone. The CHGO Police Dept. is under a Federal consent decree but yet after 6 or 7 yrs the dept. is still non-compliant. Does it surprise anyone that CHGO never has to follow any federal laws like FSLA accounting. let alone any federal consent decrees.
Everyone should volunteer to put that money in the pension fund. Seriously.
Then pay up
Funny they have money for the Illegals and reparations.
Catanzara says he will take care of it. He just has to get the two 80g trucks we bought him washed first.
Not a federal consent decree a fake consent decree run by an independent monitor. If it were in fact a federal consent decree the city would face some kind of sanctions from the DOJ. This bull shit we’re in is compliments of Lisa “Olive Oil” Madigan. When she was Attorney General she sued to put CPD in a consent decree.
Do your own digging, there aren't any errors. The dept issued an updated promotional calendar which did remove the Sgt class that was on the previous calendar. Class set for Oct was still on there.
FU pay me!
Uh......no.
If Catanzara were to somehow get this matter to Pres. Trump's attention, it's possible that a criminal referral from the DOJ to Mayor Brandon would be on its way shortly for something along the lines of criminal negligence of official duties. Or some such.
1) Trump does not like waste
2) Trump supports law enforcement
3) It is criminally wasteful that a Mayor of Chicago allowed a payment of what should have been tens of millions balloon into a debt of hundreds of millions in defiance of a federal court judgements, with the penalty compounding interest every month.
Sorry about long post. Maybe it's just wishful thinking that FOP Lodge 7 gets this matter onto the President's desk.
Not a federal consent decree a fake consent decree run by an independent monitor.
That's how consent decrees work, genius. The plaintiff here is state AG (who didn't have standing to sue, but City didn't challenge it because...politics) and not DOJ, but that's the only difference.
You’re a moron.. it’s currently in appeals in the court system. It’s not criminal if it’s appealed. A defendant has the right to appeal until all avenues are exhausted. If the city still didn’t pay, it wouldn’t be criminal, it would be civil and the city could be fined or held in contempt.
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