Barz Fallout Continues
WTTW picking up the ball and running with it now:
The agency tasked with investigating misconduct by Chicago police officers identified a troubling pattern of undocumented and unprofessional stops of Black people in a downtown police district, according to a document obtained by WTTW News.
The Civilian Office of Police Accountability, which is better known as COPA, received more than 50 complaints that tactical team officers assigned to patrol Lincoln Park, West Town, Old Town, River North, Streeterville, the Gold Coast and parts of Logan Square conducted “problematic” traffic stops and searches in 2024, according to a letter from Steffany Hreno, COPA’s director of investigations, to the head of Near North (18th) Police District.
Assorted media outlets are all going to look for their own spin on this and use it as a cudgel to beat the Department with for years on end - like they did with Burge and they did with Abbate.
Yet another example of how the politically connected cause disproportionate amounts of damage by being placed into spots they didn't earn or deserve.
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Remember… just because someone makes a complaint, doesn’t mean the complaint is valid. Nobody in the city of Chicago thinks they can or should be stopped. The officer can tell them 20 different times why they are stopped and they still cry and beef that “yall lyin and need to be out there catching the real killers.” We’ve all experienced this on almost every stop now. No matter how professional, almost every stop is controversial where they don’t think they need to listen or comply. They also think they can’t be asked to exit a vehicle.. wrong. They also thing that officers can’t do a protective search of the passenger area which is accessible to the occupant.. wrong. They also think that if they pull over before the lights are on that they are on glue and it’s no longer a traffic stop… blah blah blah blah. As long as you use your BWC and you complete ISRs detailing everything you are doing and why, you will protect yourself as long as you are following the law and rules. They all think they are attornies now because they have tictok and people tell them the police can’t do anything on a traffic stop. Also, if you’re going to do 20 stops a night, you better be writing movers to 1/3 or more of them on those stops where you are stopping or taking people out of cars. Don’t be like the bomeheads in 011 who did over 200 stops and never write a single mover except on an arrest. If I had it my way. 90 percent of my stops would have a mover, ANOV or Parker.. some kind of citation written and will protect you in the end for stupid baseless allegations of doing alleged random stops just to fish.
BARZ is a jagoff of epic proportions.
What he did to these poor kids is inexcusable and needs to be looked at criminally if it hasn’t already.
Barz totally bullshitted all of the tact teams and got an entire team fucked up believing his false promises of unit assignments and promotions.
I hate to say it but he used you dummies for his inflated gold braid pension and could give two fucks about anyone but himself. He is a self serving, egotistical fat fuck who hopefully will be in prison for what he’s done to PO’s. Word on the street is that the Fed’s have flipped a couple of younger guys still there.
I hope they keep it real and don’t lie for the other guy! Let Barz get what’s coming to him. We couldn’t wait to see him gone from 018. He’s a disgusting and foul excuse of a human being.
Barz is about to get it Gangnam style!
Fucking unreal
Sounds to me like they’re going after him. Head for the hills boys. Gonna be an ugly one.
“…a troubling pattern of undocumented and unprofessional stops of Black people…”
Is of course, the ONLY reason they're looking at it. In their make-believe world, police are racist. Always have been. Always will be.
Let's stop assigning a disproportionate number of police officers to "black and brown communities" simply because crime rates are higher there.
The police brass and the politicians know that a disproportionate percentage of crimes in the city are committed by minority communities and that is why they are stopped at disproportionate levels. But none have the testicular fortitude to say that publicly.
I see a bunch of sustained complaints against those officers. Didn't they know the BWC cameras are always recording? And that in 018, there are cameras everywhere?
Were they not trained? Who trained them? Did they have quotas? Were they told, "I have your back" and believed it?
How many were let go early without a slip for the crap they did to embarrass the rest of us?
The Officers were doing what the supervisors told them to do.
Barz is a scumbag of epic proportions and has ruined many careers.
A certain law firm must be on another fishing trip for a lawsuit against CPD.
Exoneration cases must be drying up. New revenue stream being sought.
Great news!! My $425/hour mouthpiece says I can bring the $10K painting - which none of you chumps will ever see - to most federal prisons in the country.
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Barz hasn’t done any police work his whole career, just rides off the work of his subordinates until the next promotion. Many guys in 010 got stripped when he was the tact LT because of the same BS.
A couple more POs, Sgt who is now Lt will be stripped soon too.
Good thing only idiots watch main stream media
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The Left has one purpose-to strip people of hope & optimism….and those without hope and optimism are easy to control.
How has the Tac Lt not been dumped for this?
Looks like both Barz and Ward were part of the Lieutenant test cheating scandle coming out of HQ. And both were untouchable being assigned to IAD. The command staff is a joke when they promote idiots like Barz and Ward knowing they have no common sense let alone command ability. Look at Barz history of law suits when he was investigator in
IAD? He was under the mentorship of Debra Kirby who was caught lying in testimony in open court. And Barz did the same in police board hearings and civil court trials regarding cpd members? So let's promote him to cover the misconduct...at one time the States Attorney wanted him on a Brady list for his false statements.
Why any CPD officer would come to the defense of anyone in the mainstream media is beyond me! Although I suspect they all live in wealthy, white suburbs like Hinsdale and are well protected from the riff raff.
So they admit legal stops, they just don’t like the color of the drivers being stopped.
Great, he goes off to the Cubs and the rest of us get screwed. Hopefully all the rumors about the Tact Lt. and rest of the schmucks in 018 Tact who fell for his bullshit
BARZ is like a bad case of herpes, it just won’t go away.
Reminds me of the smartest man on the CPD, Captain Tom Lemmer. He would write up a TopTen List everyday along with his in house “General Orders” he would author as well, including edition numbers at the bottom left hand corner of the page. He would hand these out at Roll Call and demand that these “TopTen” miscreants be stopped every day by the 3rd Watch along with a contact card. If any of the officers didn’t go along with this he would assign them to the Rapid Response Wagon. There were at least 15 PO’s assigned to that wagon. I could also talk about how he wrote up To/From’s for the 3rd Watch Footmen to sign basically giving up their contractual rights to have their start times changed beyond the 2 hour contractual rule. But I digress….
Besides more cowbell, your comments could benefit from more emoji.😚
Flag. Personal foul. Piling on. Fifteen yard penalty.
If you are doing anything more than just answering your calls you are stupid and I got nothing more for you
Speaking from experience. Real simple solution. It’s probably going to cost your spot and you land back on the watch, BUT you grow a pair, and tell these Stupidvisors NO. Otherwise you reap what you sow.
I got a much better idea: Don’t do traffic stops. Problem solved. You’re welcome.
Perhaps this concern has some validity.
Why, if the residents of the specified areas are enjoying the increases in the predatory activities which they have been experiencing, via the increase of predators hunting in these areas, and said residents want the law enforcement presence impeded, said residents of said specified areas may well want to also:
Leave both front and rear door entrances to their domiciles unlocked, garage doors opened, welcome mats updated to read, "All Are Welcome", with welcome signs upon the outer surfaces of said doors reading, "Hate Has No Home Here" & "See It Want It Take It 🙂"
Scold, chastise and otherwise bitch at any of their fellow resident neighbor not doing the same, being the welcoming sort of neighborly neighbors that they are.
Boycott any local stores which dare to secure their places of business with, gasp, locks on their doors.
Wear their plastic cards of credit upon a sturdy neckchain, with an easy to snap connector.
Carry any valuables, when out and about on foot and upon the public way, in clear plastic purses, bags, satchels, back packs and such. Especially laptops.
Always, when out and about on foot upon the public way, have those spiffy ear buds firmly inserted into their ear holes, with their tune playing spiffy devices snuggly nestled in an open pocket upon their stylish over garment, blissfully strolling along at a leisurely pace, oblivious to anything other than their mellow mood.
I’ll take that wagon spot. In a fuckin heartbeat. Think about it. Drive around for a few hours a day and make coin doing it. Where’re do I signup?
all these scam promotions have to stop get rid of gold braid pensions and watch it come to a screeching halt!
The only bonehead is you retard.
20 stops, smh.
How long has this systematic racism been going on in 018? Asking for a fed.
Where was the Tact Lieutenant when all of this was going on? Why didn't you protect your guys?
He was always rambling about becoming an MLB umpire. I guess they saw thru his line of bullshit and told him to get the fuck out of here.
Yes to all your questions, but fat BARZ promised us the world and gave us nothing other than heartache and legal headaches for years to come.
And the STUPIDVISORS were lied to or threatened by BARZ to do it.
Blame Barz but really all of us working cops know these skinny jean cowboys were idiots to keep doing this over and over again after they were told to slow it down. They all deserve what’s coming to them if they ever leave 376. Easy to blame the commander and LT but no one‘s talking about all the other teams in 18 that aren’t in the news because they were doing their jobs.
That did not work in 1946, it’s not gonna work now.
Yeah because he promised us the same shit. The upper bosses knew about him but did nothing because they were buddies. Corruption on top of corruption and now the roosters have come home to roost. That midget Jimmy Sanchez, whom Barz covered up a shit load of complaints and many others while he was in IAD should be in prison too. Instead he moved down to Vegas to spend his ill gotten gains.
https://news.wttw.com/2017/02/21/history-complaints-raise-questions-west-side-police-commander
Now that’s funny and SO TRUE!
Of course, black people never do anything to deserve to be pulled over by the police.
I worked in 018 during the 90's...all the commanders there have been arrogant connected bossholes that show up on day one with a good line of bullshit. There were a few good sergeants, but for the most part, the supervisors were untrustworthy IMHO After my rookie year, I never did very many traffic stops. I left for higher ground and never looked back. I never regretted leaving.
When someone speaks the truth, Democrats just stick their fingers in their ears and say, "La,la,la la... I can't hear you."
I know him too.....Epic does not do justice. He's King of the Jagoffs
THAT ! Would be racist Sir .
Speaker Madigan says...
Can you get the food truck on the yard too? ....
Sounds like they going give Larry a run for his job.....
And who was the commander at that time?
Captain Tommy Lemmer ... another hand job on the JOB can switch hands without missing a beat, just like his orders and backing you on them.
They said that some of the stops were legal. And back in the day, when tac teams were randomly stopping just about every black person they came in contact with… Well, let’s just say that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I didn’t realize there were spots that were “earned”. Could have fooled me.
‘Troubling patterns’ are the worse kind.
Yea because the reporter of this story is fair and balanced. She's a straight up hater.
Hein Jr has always been a mush.
Barz is a jagbag. It’s not about doing police work with this a$$hole that’s the problem. The problem is he’s known to ask for specific numbers aka quotas which is why this is a problem. It put officers in tricky situations trying to generate numbers to appease him. He tried bullying Lt Paz to push his agenda on the troops but was met by a smart man who put his foot down. The department should look into Barz and his fat Teletubby Joe Ohara for this.
Tac Lt baby Terry is being protected because of Snelling.
Well said! as many of us working coppers who couldn’t stand the self centered overzealous so called supervisors just like that piece of shit Barz pushing the “quota” bullshit day in and day out for political gain and glory (“look at me - look at me”) at the expense of innocent working coppers who disagreed. But still, they followed orders fearing reprisal. So, we absolutely understand and 100% agree. Sad thing is, there are 100s of shitty Merit supervisors in ever unit just like this. Majority who have never worked street, never were the real police and who couldn’t count their balls OR boobies and get the same number twice!
This is something Lemmer barz would order, do you think any coppers are gonna be stupid enough to do this in Chicago possibly
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Wow, Kid! Great investigative skills!
Now figure out what really happened, who got promoted first (second and third <— there’s a hint for you).
Then when Barz got promoted.
Consider the source.
WTTW is nothing more than a communist rag that totes water for the democratic left.
Fuck WTTW!!
Hey leave that guy alone, we actually like him here.
Please provide an example of such? Few stripped for shootings, one Asshole Sgt for a number of things, but unrelated to Barz “leadership”.
This is the 3rd story of this “letter” yet the letter admits that the violations all stem from legal/lawful violations and that COPA has an issue with the complaints coming from people of color.
They were promised meritorious promotions. The lucky received them before this happened. The unlucky go to callback. They will not be fired. Important enabler will remember their sacrifice.
Where is he now ? MLB ?
Being a copper who's been accused of a 4th amendment false stop violation, 99.99% of complaints should be thrown in the trash as soon as body cam video is watched. These illiterate sub 70 IQ dummies think every stop is a 4th amendment violation.
Hein is the real jagoff who was in 018. And then the Deputy.. and now his incompetence continues.. garbage person
I can guarantee that no one told them to do traffic stops and violate General orders.
Having said all that, he was still way better than Hein, who actually pushed those teams harder than Barz ever could of. People that have been here long enough know the truth.
The former one made Captain so he kept quiet and went along with the program for his promotion, the new one was probably promised the same.
Was thinking the same thing. Who was it and how much was he “pushing for numbers” also? Where did he end up?
This will go nowhere for the most part. COPA even agreed that all the stops were legal… they just hate that most were minorities downtown and they were asked to get out of the car and searched. If you ask everyone to exit on every stop, which you can, then no issue. But you better be articulating for any pat downs or searches conducted…
Seems to be the "scandal" didn't start or end with Barz. Add in the former Tact Lt DK (now Captain), current tact Lt and former Commander J. PEA brain Heiny. All these "leaders" are culpable in it.
Stop looking deeper. There's nothing to see here.
Sincerely,
Fred Waller
The last 5 years, all my stops have been movers.
Driver's have been more reckless since 2020.
No more breaks.
They made him a Captain and he asked to change district. Not a stand up guy
Is there anyway we can get rid of Lt Aquarius in 007? Worst Lt I have ever worked for
I thought the same thing, if they were all pushing numbers, why is it that only 4 officers from 1 of the 5-6 teams they have are “problems”? I was expecting this to read like a Tom Clancy thriller when it appears to be a cash grab witch hunt from Loevy and Loevy with WTTW being the co-conspirators.
OT. Sergeant's just got a check for free insurance.
How about don’t do any fucking stops dumb dumb.
https://x.com/TODAYshow/status/1136682800374013953
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Or BARZ’s case
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Major League Baseball
content.mlb.com/documents/5/5/2/262424552/102013_authentics_news.pdf
At least that Lt. in CST had the balls to stand up to him even though BARZ fucked his career up. At least he got paid and got the ball rolling on this shit.
Fuck Barz and any pussy boss pushing for activity now a days.
https://bsky.app/profile/schuba.bsky.social/post/3m3dpwhibjs2z
Barz will be having a foot long in short order.
What’s so unreal? It’s corrupt ass Chicago since the Al Capone days. Barz is and has always been a corrupt Mother Fucker. He’s fucked so many people over that this blind to happen. Karma train is a coming cocksucker.
Yet no one ever stood up to him.
He has 14 honorable mentions in his 30+ year career. Though it may be off because it says he’s only cost the city 50K and it’s more like several millions.
https://m.cpdp.co/officer/1490/michael-barz/
this is a good comment
Yes, he pushed his blue card agenda and he got the stripes for it as the Tact Lt and former Tact Lt. now a Captain.
Do not repeat these missions if they ask again for this document by who and show fallout.
Not all, they make shit money.
O’Hara was his suck ass and did whatever BARZ told him to do. Total fucking Blowhard.
They’re not talking about other teams yet, but it’s coming you fucktard. Barz and the capt and Lt. all told us to go out and do what we needed to do and get the blue cards without worrying about anything because they had our backs. When the Lt.,Sgts and other teams are in call back they’ll be singing a different tune. This is either Barz or Tact Lt talking shit. Fuck off fuckface.
Exactly! Good for that Lt. standing up for his troops and himself. Fuck those bossholes demanding shit.
You mean like the pattern that Barz had of misconduct over his supervisory reign while in IAD and beyond?
Agree , make every District the same size with 15 Beat cars , 2 sector cars, one wagon per sector, 3 Sgt. ,1 field Lt. 1 Captain per watch . Four tactical units to cover all watches, one traffic car per watch . Hire civilians for district secretary,shot spotter and parking lot security
Yes indeed!
I know him very well. I’m hearing they are looking at some old cases when he was a detective and did “what he had to do to push the cases through the ASA’s. Remember that one case in Area 5 you stretched on Belmont Mikey? Yes, they know about it.
Barz has zero conscience and would step on his own mother and wife just to get ahead which by the way he’s done.
Fuck that, we are not going down for anyone. We will do what we need to, to keep our jobs, fuck Barz, and not end up behind bars.
Barz you to say fuck those cameras, get the blue cards.
Oh, it’s being looked at alright!
Yes we all did it because of fear of getting dumped. We had to.
Yes he has but he will get his in the end. A friend in 121 said he’s got bigggggggg problems
I don’t think your reading and legally interpreting correctly.
Barz too, only he was a Puss and did everything behind peoples backs and didn’t have the balls to say shit to anyone’s face right Mikey?
Gee, ya think with all the latest shit in the news about him? Just do a search of his name and you’ll see all the shit he’s been involved in.
Bullshit 99% of us didn’t get shit. The few that did got it on their own merit not because of Barz. He promised a lot of shit and NEVER delivered.
He’s done this in every single rank he’s been in. Same MO, those of us that played baseball with him knew all about him. He was a fucking asshole on the field and on the job. Ask around how he got that Authenticator job and who he fucked over to get it.
That doesn’t excuse you dummy. They are going to fucking fire and indict thise poor bastards.
Yep, he ain’t getting away with shit! They’ve already interviewed a shit load of coppers who’ve gotten called down to give a statement!
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