"...depending on where you look"
Porkulous (and Fox News) are arguing over homicide numbers, and both are conflating homicide totals with homicide rates:
Fox News anchor Bret Baier confronted Gov. JB Pritzker, D-Ill., over Chicago’s murder rate on Wednesday.
During an exclusive Fox News Channel interview, Baier and Pritzker clashed over the murder rate in his city. The anchor brought out research data to contest the governor’s on-air claim that Chicago isn’t even in the 30 American cities with the highest murder rates.
TOTAL homicides are lower this year, but Chicago still leads the nation in the total number of dead bodies. Homicide RATES fluctuate, where it's more dangerous in certain cities compared to Chicago based on killings per 100,000 people.
Amusingly, if you do it by neighborhood, Chicago runs away with both categories.
It's all a numbers game exploited by both sides, but as we reported for years, those numbers are untrustworthy in the extreme. Check out this from a week ago:
D.C. police officers are feeding information to the Justice Department as it probes accusations of manipulated crime data, according to the D.C. Police Union and five other people familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an investigation in progress. The voluntary cooperation of about three dozen from the police force, according to three of the people, reflects long-standing frustrations about how violent crime is categorized by supervisors — and surfaces as public safety in D.C. continues to capture the president’s attention.
Some rank-and-file officers and detectives have complained for months — in some cases, years — that managers were recording serious crimes as more minor ones to make their police districts appear safer or avoid the ire of top department brass. Some kept lists, documenting cases where they believed a higher-up improperly classified a crime as a lesser offense. One such tally, obtained by The Washington Post, lists more than 150 instances since March 2024 where staff in a Southeast D.C. police district believed offenses were, at least initially, inappropriately classified.
Officials in President Trump’s Justice Department have been scrutinizing crime data in recent months — they’ve found evidence that Democratic politicians have been skewing crime stats for their own benefit ahead of the midterm elections, The Post has learned.
Illinois Democratic Gov. JB Pritzker — a vocal opponent of Trump’s use of federal troops for both immigration enforcement and fighting big-blue-city crime — has lately touted double-digit declines in Chicago crime rates where “shootings and homicides on our highways are down 60, 70, 80% depending on where you look.”
Gee, if you only count "highway homicides," then yeah, you're numbers are going to be massively skewed, and Fata$$ is undoubtedly looking at statewide numbers. The "depending on where you look" is what he's using for cover, because if you look at I-190 (the O'Hare circle) those rates are going to be lower than the Dan Ryan or the Stevenson.
We could quote stats from Jefferson Park, compare it to North Lawndale and claim crime was down hundreds of percents, too. It wouldn't mean a damn thing, but it makes for great soundbites.
CompStat was built on this bullshit, too, and we wrote dozens of pieces pointing out that the only persons who benefited from any of it were the politicians.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Why is that the highway that runs through the city has a homicide and it doesnt count at all on anyone's numbers?
Burglaries get downgraded to thefts, robberies to battery and theft.
CSAs get downgraded to domestic battery or simple batteries.
Murders get downgraded to "death unknown".
If you drive around the South Side in areas that had a lot of homicides, there now more vacant lots than ever! Population has left the South Side!
The state and city need more bodies please pick up the pace
CPD has been manipulating statistics like forever. It's Democrat math 101.
didn't Jane Byrne get spanked for fubbing numbers way back?
Numbers can be made to say anything and Pritzkers only skill set from his college days is making up lies supported by how you handle or read data. Democrats only management skill.
OT but everyone’s favorite tik tok cop HM…yes the one who profits off of dead officers, is back in the state and now with Des Plaines PD. Guess things didn’t work out too well in the sunshine state
I stopped believing anything our governor and mayor say
Figures lie, liars figure
When Cline the Magician was the Supt he took robberty out of the violent crimes and put it in property crimes because it was property being taken so the violent numbers when down. Some homicides were knocked down to death investigations because the bodies were decomposed until the autopsy declared them homicides but were never changed.
You believed them before this?
Pam Zeckman brought this to light in the late '80's.
Don't forget the Att. Burglaries turned into Damage to Property.
there has been a decrease with the increase
so,,, it's good the city and state have lower murder numbers, but we will not look at the number that says we are leading the race
Whatever. The uncomfortable truth is that Chicago was a much better and safer city for normies when we had 600-700 per year, but they were geographically contained.
Someone did a deep dive into the pictures of arrested white people. Blacks and Hispanics all categorized as white. It was hilarious how desperate they are.
Wouldn't you?
Baby Huey is a pathological liar and a tax cheat. He takes care of criminals and leaves victims to fend for themselves. Hundreds of people being murdered and thousands shot every year is just collateral damage.
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No shame in her game that's for sure.
You won't see it on the cities numbers. Expressways under ISP jurisdiction.
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They are making a documentary in Chicago called Dumb and Dumber part 2..starring Prickster and Conehead.
She couldn’t hack in cpd what makes you think she’d make it at a real department.
Notice how murders counts are always presented by the news shows as percentages? Yes, the percentage might be lower but the actual number (in the 100's) is staggering. Nothing like 'balanced reporting'!
PORKY may be on to something there. As ICE snatches up illegals and other illegals self deport crime goes down. Does this indicate that it is the illegals committing all the violent crimes?
Favorite tik tok hip hop cop will always be CB
DEMOCRAT MATH 101! BRILLIANT! Should be adopted widespread to explain the bullshit the Democrats and mainstream media spew!
Where is Pam Zeckman when we need her. Back in the early 80s she had the Dept reporting legit numbers.
Good point and all the shootings. Hey , when will a reporter, Maryanne Ahern, ask if these homicides, shootings , burglaries were in northern suburbs, western suburbs with Asian and Caucasian victims? Would it still be ok ? Thinning the population through murder and abortion of certain people is the Democratic way.
Conehead got rid of those racist shot spotter technology. Wow. How’s that working out for the black victims of gunfire?
The democrats lie about everything. Thr democrats destroy everything they touch. The democrats hate you if you do not adore at the altar of their convoluted ideology. The democrats hate America.
Still not enough.
All criminals from the hood need a dirt nap.
Vacant land , abandoned buildings but crime still up
JB doesn’t care about crime in Chicago, never criticized Conehead for removing shot spotter, failure to hire 2,000 policemen
Chicago crime stats are just about as honest and reliable as CPD/CFD promotional tests.
well mayor panik said it best Friday while saying he doesnt approve of the
term aliens he spoke of "my people"
Imagine the mayor of a major city in the USA admitting he's only in it for the
"my people".
Great campaign slogan ya got there
Chicago has been manipulating crime stats FOR YEARS. This is no surprise.
I know for a fact the numbers have been BS since OW Wilson (‘61-‘67). And probably before too.
This is what happens when crime is politicized.
When it comes to murder rate, Chicago benefits (as do all large cities) from a large population where 98% don't do shit, which makes for an outsized denominator. The murder rate for many neighborhoods are zero while others have Central American levels. It all depends on where you look.
As for expressway shootings, those within the city limits typically only account for around 1% of the total people shot every year. Basic math can easily show massive swings because of the small numbers involved.
For anyone interested in ISP shooting stats, go here - https://isp.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/9f74a3ba8bf443f794a868e27289c1e8
I saw for myself how crime stats are changed. When I started in 1994 and as a victim, the crimes are down graded.
That has to do with enforcement. The city gave the state expressway enforcement, so the state has inherited all the additional crime that goes along with the enforcement of the expressways.
Jefferson Park went to crap with the blue line scumbag delivery system. There are more officers in the Mayor security team than C.T.A mass transit police. Fred Sanford compares it to the uglyness of Ethel.
I’m sure it’s a skill that comes in handy when trying to avoid paying property taxes.
death from drug overdoses should be a murder
politicians do not, do not care about black murder victims unles a concealed carry holder or police officer shoots a criminal that was threatening them.
Speaking of homicides, how soon before one of the NBA arrestees gets wacked by the outfit. This shit is juicy as F.
I haven’t watched the NBA in years but I’ll watch the demise of the NBA.
Feds should give NBA a 2 year death penalty.
When did you ever start?
And why?
Why do you care. Live your life and don’t worry what others are doing. I feel bad for her she was supposed to get married to another police officer out there and I think he cheated on her.
BARZ DOES IT AGAIN, and AGAIN and a FUCKING AGAIN!
Speaking of numbers, looks like the Fed’s are coming to get BARZ. I’m hearing all those young officers along with at least two Sgt.’s and Tact Lt. are collectively getting on one page and throwing BARZ under the “federal” bus which is why he high tailed it off the job so abruptly without his credentials and the city settled the lawsuit with that Lt. from CST.
That’s right, they’re too young to have their careers ruined while you leave them jammed up and you collect your gold braid pension, so they’re not going down for you. Pucker up buttercup because it’s going to be a bumpy ride Barz. If his wife was smart she’d begin to distance herself and put they’re shit in a trust.
https://news.wttw.com/2025/10/27/police-misconduct-agency-identified-troubling-pattern-stops-black-chicagoans-downtown
Did you see the CTA employee on local news telling us that cuts to the blue and red line will hurt the homeless on the train. Are you kidding me.
But he wants to be elected. We need more police on street, not shot spotter.Now get back to
your cubicle.You might be on the street next year.
“Theft from Building” sounds much more innocuous than some creep breaking the basement window, rifling thru your panty drawer, making himself a sandwich and taking a dump in your toilet and not flushing.
If you only look inside your own ass then there's no crime problem at all. What billionaire is morbidly obese and pays to be the governor in Illinois of all places.
There are some very sick people in this city. And they dont even know that they are sick.
They will vote blue and hate Trump until their dying breath. They will sit by as crime increases exponentially, and listen to the garbage from the fake news networks. They will pay higher taxes and willingly give it to homeless and CPS and Illegals without asking questions.
Chicago is dying...Conehead and Pritzker are the main reason.
I just heard 48 million will not get their snap payment. My guess
is that out of the 48 million less than 100 are deserving of the hand up,
The rest are lazy dirt bags who keep producing babies who group to be lazy dirtbags. Great Fn system!
You must be entertained by her videos since you all up in her biz. Stop worrying what she does
NO SHE DIDNT ASSWIPE! You must be a bs white shirt DEI asshole! Fuckin do nothing clown! Go back to your cubicle! You were the Police? No fuckin way, ASSHOLE!
Barz and the Capt are an embarrassment to this job. Telling young dumb coppers to go out and get numbers and we will take care of the cr and lawsuits
or CarJackings to Unauthorized Use of a Motor Vehicle.
A budding rapper was just ambushed. If that doesn't make johnson and pritzger admit crime is bad nothing will. That never happens.
Of course homicides are down. Have you priced ammo lately?
Gentrification and urban renewal are the best crime reducing strategies available. Despite what the community activists say, getting the criminals out legally works.
Brandon's Bodies
https://cwbchicago.com/brandons-bodies
Agreed that drug overdoses should be murder. There is even a criminal charge for it. Too often, OD cases are classified as non-criminal death.
But can you imagine how many more homicides would be recorded in Chicago if this was to happen?
The Captain was the former Tact Lt. was pushed Barz’s agenda and was rewarded with additional Bars. Now he and the current Tact Lt. may be getting more bars but these you can’t wear…
All because they listened to that lying moron Barz who promised them the world. Shame on them. I don’t feel bad for them because they are supposedly seasoned veterans but I do feel for the young kids sitting at call back.
The article sounds like they’re coming for some exempt heads.
Barz is a fucking goof and those that believe him are bigger goofs.
I remember one of his roll calls at S/M when he was threatening us in front of all the Sgt.’s that were reversed there. Our Sgt., told us don’t listen to any of that BS, keep a low profile and stay out of trouble.
I remember when she showed up out South and Glenn Evans threw her out of the district lot and told her she’d be locked up for trespassing if she came back.
Fucking priceless!
This is going to go much further than the NBA. Maybe not immediately, but this is only the beginning of the ugliness.
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1. Locate, identify and evaluate cost to acquire candidate worthy parcels of city land.
2. Acquire funds and purchase said parcels.
3. Build Back Better.
4. Offer said built back better properties for sale to any whom meet or exceed market value asking price.
5. Include in each offered for sale, built back better property a bonus incentive of a pair of sparkle farting unicorns.
6. Magical results will ensue. (No, not in Sue)
We will classify it as an "innie-outee" but not tell anyone tell they press for a definition or more answers.
The dept glossed right over Zekmans report. Her report on the Detail Unit parking the connected at the sports venues received more attention .
I pray it makes the Chief of D look like the ass she really is.
This is how it should be done!!!
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He should have asked fat boy if he's ok with 96 percent of the homicides in Chicago being minorities year in and year out
******-cheaters, to be expected
Chicago PD hides the real Murder Yearend Stats as Death Investigations, every years end, to make the results look better (although still abysmal), for political-media purposes.
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