Friday, December 05, 2025

Promoting Predators

Over our nearly thirty years, we saw boatloads of persons promoted, many of whom shouldn't have ever been near a promotional opportunity. Many were assholes. A few were criminals. Others were just scumbags.

  • Chicago’s system of promotions remains out of step with other big cities. Police departments in New York City and Los Angeles consider disciplinary records before promoting officers, seeing their past actions as a critical factor in determining whether they’re fit to supervise others. A survey conducted for the Chicago Police Department of more than a dozen major departments found that only one did not consider discipline in promotions.

    In New Orleans, the police department created a promotions policy that considers an officer’s disciplinary history after it fell under a federal consent decree stemming from decades of corruption and misconduct. The department took nearly four years to create and launch its new policy.

    Chicago is nearly seven years into a state consent decree intended in part to address issues with the police department’s promotions system. Between November 2023 and this April, the city has paid a consulting firm at least $430,000 to study personnel policies, including making recommendations on how to incorporate disciplinary histories into the process.

    But the problems remain unaddressed by the department.

The article relies way too much on the Invisible Institute for solutions, an overly lib-tarded anti-police organization with a giant axe to grind. We wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

But we had a lot of discussions over the years with other cops who thought there ought to be some way that the Department could "tap the brakes" on promotions as it were - until an investigations was concluded. What we came up with years ago hasn't changed:

  • if you're up for promotion by score, you can go to class with everyone else, but you don't get to walk the stage, shake the hands, or get the star/salary until the complaint is resolved. If it is resolved favorably, you get the same seniority date as your fellow promotees. If it's unfavorable, you serve your suspension time at the appropriate rank, then move forward. This would also encourage the Department to resolve these cases in a timely manner instead of dragging them out for years and years and years.
  • if you're up for "meri-clout-orious" promotion, you're shit out of luck, and you wait for the next opportunity. If it's resolved in your favor, you're automatically in the next class. If it's an unfavorable finding, you're out of the process for a five or ten year period AND whoever recommended you isn't allowed to ever submit a "merit" nomination again, because they're obviously bad at it.

You want to have some fun? Get a list over the past three decades of all the promoted people who got fired or (even more fun) went to jail. Then compare how many of those promotions were by score and how many by "merit." 

You'll be amazed. We used to have a list and it was a constant source of amazement. 

Labels:

79 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

For open investigations I somewhat agree but for past complaints?? I don’t think it should be taken into account. Remember, a full blown mental can walk into the desk and make a complaint that an officer hid cameras and microphones in their home and plans to kidnap them and bring them to planet mars.. now by order, the complaint MUST be taken.. and it normally is. And it sucks because it stays in an officers history. I think the history of anything sustained should be considered. I agree that merit appointees need to be squeaky clean. Score is score, earned is earned. If you want merit, then you better not have 3 domestics and a DUI in your history.

12/05/2025 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get rid of merit again like Charlie beck did.

12/05/2025 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sergeant that just got charged with the PPP Loan scam was a merit guy…

12/05/2025 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn’t matter the cheaters and merit would have their cases unfounded either way. Tests are rigged, test results are fixed. The simple fact results are exempt from FOIA tells us everything. Get yours anyway you can. Merit already got theirs.

12/05/2025 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Collect your overtime. Get ten years for the retirement star and start looking for other careers. Don’t count on promotions here.

12/05/2025 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Upper management, aka Gold Stars keep promoting their friends and idiots that make them look good. Anyone wearing a white shirt is suspect. I lost respect for 99% of all the bosses. Most are morons.

12/05/2025 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SB from #153 is probably one of the biggest predators on a job. This Dept. Is a really sad joke.

12/05/2025 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The level of competent supervisors has declined significantly in the last 20 years! Most want the promotion so they can do nothing. Most have no clue what they are doing. Sgt’s who are goofy and Lt’s who just want to hide.

12/05/2025 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Supervisors and bad policy messed the police job up! The public will pay the price and the city will continue the death spiral.

12/05/2025 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why bother. I just answer my calls and get a pay check. Nothing more!

12/05/2025 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m about to retire and the promotional process gets me sick. Most of the supervisors on this job I wouldn’t give the time of day to when I retire. I’ll pretend that they are just some scum I locked up. I’ll thumb my nose at them.

12/05/2025 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t think much about the bad supervisors even while working. I just use avoidance to get through my shift. Screw the place.

12/05/2025 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s a shame the wrong people got promoted and continued the process with their friends.

12/05/2025 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is going to be a good thread

12/05/2025 02:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to understand the rules of the game . There are good predators ( teachers and Democrat activists ) and there are bad predators ( katlics and other religious people except Muslims, and Republicans ) once you understand the rules of the game it all makes sense.

12/05/2025 03:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Score just means they could've been an asshole allowed to sit quietly in the corner and study. And/or allowed to sit sit quietly and study with a select few. Either way, unless you're spending your day answering calls and make score, then you get my respect for score.

12/05/2025 04:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is essential for the credibility of the department that we address these concerns about the promotion system and ensure that our promotion system is fair, unbiased, and truly reflective of individual merit and capability. With that being said we’d have to demoted 3/4 of our top brass.

Promotions should be based more on merit and performance rather than being heavily influenced by COPA and BIA investigations. I mean, perhaps if the systems were legit and had an ounce of integrity within, then I’d say okay, but we all know that the integrity of these units are questionable.

History has shown us that many outcomes are predetermined by CPD Exempt members (particularly Bureau Chiefs), who are not directly involved with the BIA and therefore display a lack of impartiality in their findings.

Additionally, the majority of BIA investigations tend to be drawn-out processes, which only add to the frustration when it is clear that decisions are often influenced by internal connections rather than a fair evaluation of the facts.



I

12/05/2025 05:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CWB should add a column for this very reason
We have gone full circle of clowns promoting clowns and the chickens have come home to roost

12/05/2025 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's all legit kid..... remember, where else can you take a Lt test from your hospital room given by your "friend" wink wink

12/05/2025 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, you don't want either of your suggestions for promotions. The city can slow walk your investigation for a decade if they want. You will never get promoted. The Command staff would have the test score list and crush out people they or the city don't like or aren't in the club. The promotional process would become more corrupt than it already is. The city can't and should never be trusted when it comes to promotions. The city of Shitcago wants their family and friends promoted and nobody else. Someone who has a bad enough disciplinary history could be stripped by COPA right now if they wanted to. Changes to the system are a waste of time. Now putting a quota on activity or having a box to check on the A&A's saying you worked the field to be eligible for promotion is a different. story. Illinois State Law says no to activity quotas to keep your job. That law doesn't say anything about promotions. The department has too many supervisors who have never filled out an arrest report.

12/05/2025 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really think the top scorers on that last lieutenant’s exam actually earned their scores? One’s on COVID disability, and the other hides behind plants .

12/05/2025 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way it's going, they might have been someone you locked up...

12/05/2025 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That should be the rule for everyone

12/05/2025 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember in May of 2001 they had a copper by the name of "Milk Dud".
This clown held up 150 sergeants from getting promoted because he was involved in some "incident" with a transvestite.

The goof was finally allowed to make sergeant with the rest of us on 01 June 2001.
Old Milk Dud was SLOW in many ways!

12/05/2025 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are these COPA investigators not being sued by the offended officers?

12/05/2025 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we could get a state lawmaker to sponsor a bill like they are doing for convicted criminals to just wipe the convictions off the convicted offenders record? If it works for convicted bad guys it should work for the police.

12/05/2025 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the plan!

12/05/2025 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few thoughts, all test results and rank order should be posted for everyone to see, all merit candidates should be posted along with the interview results publicly posted, same for Captain and commander interviews (they are scoring those), merit interviews should be conducted and assessed by out of town Police bosses (that’s how I/O solutions who does most our testing does the scoring for part 2). There needs to be transparency across the board.
When it comes to discipline unless you are stripped and possibly separated should only prevent promotion.

12/05/2025 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And that’s how we got Goofy Duckhorn like number 700 on the Sgts list

12/05/2025 08:28:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

How many did go to prison?

12/05/2025 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a reasonable man I cannot agree with your assessment of “most supervisors”. 80% of the supervisors on this job are decent people overall. Merit, score or fake score, doesn’t really matter. Every group will have their 20% who are either bona fide mentals, morons, or company-men. Try to figger it out before your’s 60’s.

12/05/2025 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares? News for you, Jr., you won’t give any coppers the time of day. When you retire you are forgotten and nobody cares. At the time you retire there will be a lot of congrats given, the old “we’ll get together soon” and similar b.s. You won’t see or speak to anyone other than a select few, and I mean a few. So, get a good dog, pontificate about whatever you like, and look at SCC for entertainment. Now go back to your hole until that day comes.

12/05/2025 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't know how I survived the job looking at all this BS. I had no issue
telling a few white shirts to F off. The best part was when they realized
they had it coming. Keep a low profile, take notes, be the one in the
room that they pay no mind to, it makes that F off very pleasant

12/05/2025 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meritorious has to stop out of control in this department.

12/05/2025 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meritorious hack and a loser..

12/05/2025 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you going to do with a retirement star.

12/05/2025 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only sustained complaints should be takien into consideration

12/05/2025 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hein, Snelling and Eddie Johnson were/are the biggest of them all.

12/05/2025 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem that I see with denying promotions because of outstanding investigations is the fact that this department, this city administration loves to file complaints and take complaints from anyone and everyone, to include unnamed individuals. If it a serious criminal accusation, then suspend the promotion until resolved by criminal charges, not by some ahole civilian at COPA. The same goes for withholding retired credentials for any accusations other than criminal. A cop who spends his life with the department should always get his retired star absent a serious criminal allegation.

12/05/2025 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Lt. Ritchie Scotchbreath score high on the exam or was he a merit pick?

12/05/2025 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of all the supervisors I've had, I can only name 1 who was a bad person. Yes, there were a few fools and dummies along the way, but incompetent people are easy to deal with, the truly vindictive evil ones are much harder.

12/05/2025 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired star? Retired 12 years ago, when did they start handing those out?
And what is the purpose of it?

12/05/2025 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its DEI on steroids

12/05/2025 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as rank order postings. We can. The unions get a copy of the rank order list, and they can post it. That’s how Cfd does it…

12/05/2025 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what you are saying is you’d rather have someone merit that was over 700 on the Sgt’s list. Makes sense.

12/05/2025 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa whoa whoa. Let's get rid of merit and especially let's ban that "Dr" Bernstein. He is my competition and it's not fair he gets to share in some of the promotions......my students excel at memorization especially the answers.....I mean the material.....oops. I've said too much. Let all my future supervisors know my class is the one who cheats....I mean succeeds......

Hugs & kisses.

Professor Pattie
Xoxoxo

Honor Roll

Dillon sisters
M. Vanek
N. Duckhorn
T. Hawkins
Schnoor Family
Holtcamp / Chiechewski Family
J Vizinni

I have more names I just have to go at the moment.......

Toodles for now....


12/05/2025 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you going to do with a retirement star.

Carry a firearm without ccl

12/05/2025 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good man....stay away, don't go down on the paper just show up to help and leave when the scene is secure..forget the glory ....avoid supervisors, mingle with the good citizens and have a good time.....

12/05/2025 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes! I initiated zero contact with ANYONE during my last 10 years on the job. It was a zen like cruise to 55 and the Land of Critical Mass.

12/05/2025 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, okay.

12/05/2025 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adding to the Pat Casey list
Frestel
Considine
McGarry

12/05/2025 11:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A group of 8 sued COPA and Kirsten two years ago. It got the ball rolling for the “decent” COPA investigators to blow the whistle against her too. 8 coppers didn’t win but the ultimate goal was achieved when she quit right after.

12/06/2025 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She took it at home

12/06/2025 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't leave your valuables around when Missy five finger discount comes back to 024.

12/06/2025 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yup he worked 1st watch in 015. If you asked him a question he'd tell you to look up the order. He always had bbq sauce stained on his white shirt. A complete moron

12/06/2025 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goofy Considine too

12/06/2025 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP and PBPA DO NOT post promotional lists

12/06/2025 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Signed,
Merit white shirt hoping to steer some shit because I stole a promotion and felt like an asshole the rest of my career for it. Well done, sarge.

12/06/2025 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man I forgot about Considine.....MERIT Sgt by bubblehead in 012 years ago. He was going around telling people he was gonna make it on the list too. F'n 🤡 . Now he ranks in the top 25 on a much harder test....

12/06/2025 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So for a police officer we are guilty until proven innocent. We get complaints all the time and if you earned a rank score promotion why should you be held back because IAD/COPA are taking years to close out a complaint that they can not sustain against you. So in the meantime you lose seniority, pay, an opportunity to get another promotion. You see how flawed it would be to punish officers for a complaint that has not been investigated. Why are politicians allowed to be on the ballot while they are under federal indictment? Because we have due process of law. We should be afforded the same due process.

12/06/2025 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired star been given out for at least 40 yrs…. Guess you were a bad boy

12/06/2025 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can think of a few Merit Sgt's who ranked in the first or second class thanks to the Casey study group.

Considine
Altamirano

Shockingly one of them didn't spend 1 min being the WOL in patrol but TIRADO made sure he went straight to a cush unit and now is a commander. Nice enough guy but you don't think there are others more experienced or put their time in patrol that could've done or been assigned to a unit. Why is the need to "protect" one over another. Just one more reason why this job is a joke. "Earned" not given my butt.

12/06/2025 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kelly Cusack also

12/06/2025 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Considine loves him some bubble head........

12/06/2025 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correct. Original poster was asking about posting rank order. I was saying the unions CAN post — and referencing cfd union posts rank order list. So if we ask the city to post, their response would probably be “ your unions have the list, they can post if they want to”. I was giving a response to above poster. I never said Fop and pbpa posts the lists. Stay safe out there!

12/06/2025 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired star? Retired 12 years ago, when did they start handing those out?
And what is the purpose of it?
They have been handing those out many years before you retired,,,fop and the department give you one

12/06/2025 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department also has a way of punishing working cops, using Copa crusades to deny someone a promotion just because they dared to provide backup isn't great either.

12/06/2025 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’ve often said that an enterprising young reporter could have a juicy story with this in regards to merit promotions.

For example, how can a P.O. with a sustained rule 14 violation be given a merit bump to detective?
Clearly the conduct wasn’t worthy of “merit”.
And now you have a detective who can’t testify in court, what is he supposed to do in the d unit?
Never made sense, but it’s the Chicago way.

12/06/2025 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know a sergeant that hold high integrity, intelligence, compassion and courage, but was unjustly fired… CPD lost a Beautiful soul to use him as a sacrificial lamb…. The Great thing, he left this corrupt City & State… I’m happy that such evil turned out for his good… He is doing GREAT now‼️💯🦁

Another Officer that I know was unjustly fired and a sacrificial lamb for being a proactive Officer. Yet, the offender/Criminal he arrested was praised for complaining of Excessive Force… What a messed up World… Good is being called Evil & Evil Good…💔

Point here‼️ Consider the truth behind disciplinary history…. Is the accusation of misconduct the truth⁉️🤔🧐

12/06/2025 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ever white shirt starting jan 1st in 2 on the 2nd watch including cmdr.captain and tactLt will be merit / what could go wrong .

12/06/2025 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know him, but you should look up the order. LEARN the job instead of telling on others to tell you what to do.

12/06/2025 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lohse. Super tight with the Dillon's and couldn't be left out of their secret study group. Was in the 1st or 2nd group. Funny he told everyone that would listen that he went out the night before and was hungover when the test was given. Yeah ...ok...wink wink.

12/06/2025 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There must have been one heck of a study group in Area 4 then, 5 of their Sgts there were in first two classes.

12/06/2025 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There’s Sergeant Cinta in the academy that was found not credible because of lying and on the Brady List but yet, is in a position to deal with recruits and kiss ass in the academy.

12/07/2025 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t forget Sgt. Erin Lausen she’s was the Chizewzki’s manor. She was part of the study group, as well.

12/07/2025 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was administered bedside at the hospital.

12/07/2025 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Precisely, your competition at the BIA (Sgt’s or Lt’s) will drag your investigation out beyond the promotional test preparation period.

12/07/2025 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh man. Sgt ERIN LAUSEN. crybaby when she was blue shirt, makes detective and cries more....makes Sgt and now she's "legit" just ask her. Better yet she's bff with HEINY wife #2 supposedly....her husband is heiny's lackey and received a promotion because of it. Heard she's disliked by lots of 014 people because she whines all the time how she needs to be on days and can't work nights. Hopefully Heiny is gone soon so she can dumped and go away. She's ruined everywhere she's ever "worked". She is and always will be a crybaby scammer.

12/07/2025 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pat Jaycox was ruled 14 and Leo Schmidt made sure he still got a merit bump. Don't worry Sgt Jaycox is sitting quietly in 376 doing nothing. Another guy who should've been fired years ago but as this job always does it promoted him meritoriously. Place is a joke.

12/07/2025 05:58:00 PM  

Post a Comment

<< Home

Newer Posts.......................... ..........................Older Posts