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Two children and two adults are dead, and two other children are injured after a house fire in Chicago's West Englewood neighborhood early Wednesday morning, Chicago police said.
The Chicago Fire Department battled the 2-11 alarm fire in the 6000 block of South Paulina Street, which was extinguished just before 3 a.m. CFD said six people were rescued from the fire and initially taken to local hospitals in serious condition.
Chicago police later said that a man and a woman suffered severe burns and were taken to the University of Chicago Medical Center in critical condition. Four kids, including three boys, ages 14, 15, and 16, and an 8-year-old girl, were taken to Comer Children's Hospital.
Police confirmed that the two adults, the 8-year-old girl, and the 15-year-old boy later died.
The fire is being investigated as an arson, which would mean all four deaths are homicides. Keep an eye on how they are classified them moving forward.
But our question is this - did the equipment issues (disabled tower ladders, engine and truck shortages) have anything to do with the ability to respond and extinguish the blaze?
This high of a casualty count in a fire is rare these days, so it's a legit question that should be asked.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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I had to transport children that died in a fire to the morgue years ago. 3 of them.
Who would have such a strong grudge against the adults or teenagers that someone would deliberately set the building ablaze?
As much as I am not a fan of the CFD's apparatus & equipment procurement processes, I think this fire was well involved before the 911 call was made. The first company on the scene landed in under 3 minutes.
A lot of factors here and as simple as it sounds, the main factor is working smoke detectors! That area has some of CFD's best firefighters and I am sure they did their usual selfless work to bring out the victims (sounds like CPD assisted - thanks) and stop fire spread (they saved an adjacent structure).
Thanks for all you do SCC!
I worked in the CFD fire cause and origin unit (OFI/Office of fire investigation) and I can tell you this: 99.999999999999 of ALL fires in society are set by human hands. The single remaining fire not set by some asshole? Mice with matches.
May they RIP, as far as how does Service fire vehicles there are many of them being repaired at Chicago truck repair about 7401 S. Central in Bedford Park Illinois. Amazing how we don’t even have a contractor in the city of Chicago. We are throwing our tax money outside the city to connected clown that is a friend of Brandon‘s. And the bigger question is is the shot even qualified? They also have a ton of garbage trucks and other city vehicles sitting there. Wonder if they’re just fixing them with scotch tape and getting paid multimillions following some of it back correct? Just axing.
No jokes about ceiling crickets - 9volt batteries are $2 each, replace all you smoke detector batteries today. If the detector is over ten years old, replace the detector. second tip - don't leave tool/toy batteries charging while you sleep.
prayers for the survivors and for the brave men who went into the fire to rescue that family.
M.E. lists kid as homicide.
It was arson with a lot of accelerant. 1st in engine is only couple blocks away on Ashland and encountered heavy fire on arrival
Dryer vent fires,lightening strikes,overloaded electrical circuits,cooking accidents,electrical fires in autos,etc.People related but some are intentional and some not.That include a cat that knocks over a candle.Field experience tested to name just a few.
Certain segments of Chicago society have very poor conflict resolution skills and even poorer impulse control. Guess who I am talking about?
Seriously? The beast is shooting each other every day.
As a child, an altar boy, there was a fire. 3 tiny, little caskets covered in white. Certainly, that family was never the same. Why do things happen like this?
Rimgale Backdraft
CFD should Reopen their own repair shops, CPD still should've their own R service too.
What’s the CFD vehicle facility at 31st & Sacramento for then? (Civilian here who drives past those buildings often)
Or buy the new smoke/CO detectors which are good for a full TEN YEARS without new batteries.
What is up with that lawyer for the cityofchicago fucking with CFD, Shrader Goods about a Maltice Cross that ever fire dept uses? And is their any truth he wants to hurt CFD?
An out-of-towner here. I am absolutely amazed every day with the dedication and commitment of both the CPD and CFD. Three minute response time! I can’t back my truck out of my garage in three minutes. Same with the PD. Your response time to violent crimes is amazing. No matter how bad the politicians of the city of Chicago treat you, they know both departments will always charge the sound of gunfire and do your best to do your duty. Your dedication is what enables them to do what they do.
People act strange when confronted in the middle of the night.If you find them in bed the carbon monoxide got them before they woke.If you find them hiding in closets or shower they panicked and hid.The best is when you find the guy you know set the fire,and accidentally set themselves on fire.Sometimes the best thing you can do is wake up the house with your siren.And we still appreciate you not leaving your squad in the way.Its more important the truck gets to the fire then me.
This is a residency violation?
The fire was in an old frame house with asphalt (gasoline) siding under the modern vinyl. The fire was set on the front porch and it grew so intense so quickly that by the time the first engine arrived from 3 blocks away it was also catching the front porch and front door of the similar building next door, and burning inside the house through the front windows. For some reason, there were no existing windows on either side wall of the building so the only ways out were the front porch that was already sailing and going all the way to the back door.
Basically, the building burned so quickly that without smoke detectors the fire was already upon them before they could get out of bed. There was a tower ladder on scene right away (7 of 10 operational as of yesterday) but it was not necessary to put it to work.
Was that the firefighter who lost his family?
There are only maybe 3 tower ladder in the entire city operable right now plus we are getting DEI firemen and DEI promotions. Let’s face it we don’t need any women they’re a Minus One in the grand scheme of things. The Battalion chiefs all have assignments during a fire and they coordinate together but the issue is half of them got their positions based on race only. It’s evident if you listen to the radio/scanners. “Uuuugh Ugh… Ugh… Office (OEMC) we Uuugh we got water on the fire look like it working uuugh we uuugh we putting water on the fire…”
Where in yesterday the battalion chief who earned it studied hard had experience came from a rough tumble lineage had passion said….
“Office we have a 3 inch line on the Alpha side we have Tower so and so on the Bravo side with a line we have truck so and so putting a hole in the roof primary searches underway we’re putting another line on the Delta side to cover exposure I’ll get right back with you…….”
That’s the difference. That’s why. That’s why I want to say 7-9 chiefs in 2021 (?) took a demotion went back down to former positions because they seen what the city wanted as far as fire dept bosses. They didn’t want the blood on their hands they knew what was in the pipeline.
Fires are down there are less and less fires now than 5yrs ago.
Why are there so many LODD and civilian casualties now?
It’s because the city hires now based on zip code and they want firemen NOT from a raw lineage of smoke eaters who are passionate they want alllllllll bosses and rank and file members be a certain demographic.
It is what it is. You get what you hire. In the end you get what you deserve.
Most municipalities require hardwired smoke detectors but not Chitown
Owned an apartment building on the west side, on October and April 1 we would put new batteries in all of our smoke detectors, by October and April 3rd they were recovered by the occupants, everyone of them, I never understood why.
Either you are active member or a dedicated fan? I've heard some of uuum fuck up transmission. I've also heard of mid level mgnt ie batt or dep's going back to former rank. Interesting note: 7 ff died under this commissioner and 3 or 4 of those death under the same batt still dist.
Heartless fucking savages!
Our cfd used to have very modern equipment until the welfare state came before the welfare of the state. Baby mommas, 3rd worlders, and vote buying are the order of the day now. Citizens die,just blame the fireman, it worked on the police. The burbs have great equipment, nobody dies in fires out there. They must care about their voters.
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Owned an apartment building on the west side, on October and April 1 we would put new batteries in all of our smoke detectors, by October and April 3rd they were recovered by the occupants, everyone of them, I never understood why.
5/22/2026 04:40:54 PM
Because they love to steal anything. They are shortsighted and beyond stupid. Hope you had documentation in case they sued you.
Add to that light bulbs 💡 shit you not, the 3-4's at my condo would 'recover ' ha! These too. Fuckin mutts
Active member I know whah goes on in my dept all of us do this isn’t coincidence these tower ladders of our need to be specialty equipment from here on out they should never be following ambulances ever under no circumstance this is a DEI dept now more and more and it shows our hiring raw from the streets is unique but you better believe promotions are based on zip code over anything else.
Sorry for your losses💙❤💙 i agree with females shouldn't be fireman- you can't hold a hose,
swing an axe, work a pike, carry a fellow ff after doing the above while being confronted by smoke and fire (reasons I am not a ff). I'd like to add paramedics to that. 2 female paramedics came when my mother fell, they valued her more pain and suffering because they couldn't pick her up. Each was perfectly done hair, makeup and nails. Each 5'5 ish and maybe 115-125 who both seemed frightened when I asked to call for assistance. They refused so I called 911 and asked for ff to come help pickup my mother from the floor because the female 2s couldn't and were causing her more pain. DEI & unqualified females (dei) need to hold there own or go. And when you say its our turn- atleast the old regime knew how to handle shi+. There was an understanding never make your boss (clout) look bad a.k.a don't fuck up.
Thank you for all you guys & (qualified) gals doing stay safe
The best teacher is experience.Less fires,less experience.Early detection of fires through use of cell phones and activated smoke detectors keep most fires to one room now.It is not grandpas fire department anymore.in recent history the only growth is in EMS calls.Every fire scene now has at least one cross-trained member.That is good for firefighters and citizens.
Ems calls in subs have exponential lybrisen after the jab. I asked off the record.
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