Good News
You can defend yourself is someone tries to take your gun:
Chicago’s police oversight agency has cleared a police officer who fatally shot a man after he tried to rob her of her firearm during an off-duty encounter outside her Washington Heights home, according to newly released records.
Video footage released by city officials showed that on the afternoon of January 18, 2023, a group of men and 39-year-old Leevon Smith walked down the 1300 block of West 90th Street, past the apartment building where Probationary CPD Officer [...] lived. About a block away, out of camera range, the men punched and kicked Smith while he was on the ground, until a witness yelled at them to stop, according to COPA. Smith then followed the group as they walked back up the street toward [...]’s building.
Hearing the commotion, [...] stepped out of her apartment building, and Smith asked to use her phone, COPA said. That’s when the three men approached her, with one warning that they would beat her if she gave her phone to Smith, according to the agency. Video showed [...] fending off the group until they left.
But one came back, grabbed the PPO's arm and tried to take her gun, which proved to be a costly mistake as she shot him twice, ending the threat and the drain on taxpayer wallets.
Nice to see COPA get one correct.
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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With the video evidence, and even a couple witnesses, why would it take this long to conclude such a clear cut conclusion? This should have been done in less than a month.
Fuck COPA! They didn’t get it right. They unfortunately had no other way to jam her up so they had to follow facts! Trust me they were definitely trying!
It takes 3 years to determine that you can defend yourself..
Three years to clear an Officer of clear-as-day self defense from a clear-as-day forcible felony in progress. It’s absolutely embarrassing and they wonder why morale is in the shape it is. So this Officer sat around wondering for three years if she was going to have a job tomorrow. But hey. “We care about mental health!” Right.
Three and a half years to make a discussion while we have less than 3 seconds to make one.
This takes years off your life with stress.
Walk away and call 911 next time.
Color me shocked speechless. Are copa members ok? They always vote to crucify LEOs. Thrilled it worked out for her.
After a 3 year investigation.
Wonder how many people worked that case.
Wow, where is this common sense coming from? More please…..
got to love a happy ending
We'll file this under F for FAFO
And it took them all this time to declare that a justifiable
use of deadly force? Seriously?
Phenomenal news it’s about time that the law is followed. That police are not criminalized. Nobody should be criminalized for defending themselves put that person into a dirt nap cures them forever.
Buy that officer a cold drink and nice dinner. Then give her a new box of ammunition. And send her among the citizens, because she is a New Centurion!
Make that PPO a Sgt.
She did a good job in the fight, used her legs to get leverage. Then kept her wits about her. She would make a good partner.
How many hours were consumed, any OT or expenses?
Any paid consultants?
What exactly were they reviewing?
Why so long?
"Justice delayed is justice denied"
Bingo!
Copa is a grossly incompetent. Seems they need a little more oversight. Whats their annual budget?
This made my day. Great job
Two things can be true at once: 1. She was justified in shooting him. 2. She does not appear to be LE material.
Outsider here, does this mean she has been on desk duty for 3.5 years waiting for a ruling from COPA?
Years ago there would have been a round table meeting. While she was explaining how she was in fear for her life there would have been pizza. Then the meeting would be over and she would get a white shirt at the next batch of promotions. Or she would get her pick of what unit she wanted to go to. Now days you are under investigation for years. No pat on the back for doing a great job, just a long investigation. Idiots !
They still tried to jam her up saying the warning she gave the loser, that she would shoot him, was inappropriate. The de-escalation warning that we are required to give if feasible mind you they determined was abusive language. Luckily, Snelling objected. That's why it took so long, it had to go through the process because they still tried to jam her up.
looks like a good cop to me, street smart, could one of copa handle that? they would go crying to their mommy or give them hugs like BJ wants.
It takes that long for a “civilian” without law enforcement training and real world experience to manufacture a reason to apply COPA rules to harm this officer. I am actually shocked they didn’t try the failure to render aid to the assailant route against our victim officer here.
They should make the Obama Abomination a job training facility. They keep saying black men are only the way they are because of the lack of opportunity. Maybe the Obamas can finally do something for black folks that he never did as president.
They didn't get it right until there was a detailed non-concurrence showing why they were wrong. Then they reversed course and got it right. https://www.chicagocopa.org/case/2023-0000239/
The initial incident gets full play via the corrupt news media's mis/dis-i formation and presentation to the public. The damage is done, Years later. in this incident, the truth is documented and published with little fanfare. COPA is a worthless Kangaroo Court.
Fuck that department for even investigating. Grow some balls. FAFO
Why wasn’t this good news reported in Chicago media? ). Your post-holiday-weekend roundup includes: the intelligence community swearing —anonymously, naturally— that it would never slow-walk a directive, the same day Hillary Clinton hopped on a podcast to beg them to do exactly that; acting DNI Bill Pulte ending the debate by firing "dozens" of them over one long weekend, courtesy of the Supreme Court's Slaughterdecision and Trump's freshly-signed Schedule F; a "badgeless" eleven-agency federal strike force sweeping Chicago —305 fugitives bagged, two dozen missing kids recovered— to jail the repeat offenders that Cook County's Safe-T Act judges keep turning loose; and the DOJ stripping citizenship from a casting call of terrorists, war criminals, and spies who lied their way onto the naturalization rolls.
3 years with video, that’s Fd up.
Copa don’t care about your mental health.
Thank you Area5 prt for the continuation of traffic arrests. Making 016 so much safer for all of us.
Because COPA is incompetent.
And no pizza
Copa was designed and created to hurt police officers.
12:38:55-
Another reason to utilize the 12 months of stress leave following a firearm discharge. Just in case of unlawful termination.
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/dozens-monday-july-6-2026-c-and-c?r=14wajd&utm_medium=ios
So the moral of the story being off duty (or even on duty) don't get involved. I guess that is what COPA wants. COPA jumped thru hoops with their bullshit reasoning to sustain part of the allegations that they creatively made up.
Read the report. If they can't get you on the big stuff they will try to get you for the tiniest stuff.
3 1/2 years.
COPA remains full of shit. Enough with the never-ending de-escalation bullshit. Dude shows you his gun? Pull yours and de-escalate his dumb ass right onto the sidewalk.
Dude tries to take your gun? Yeah, all-day-long you know that savage is going to use it on you, then do more bad things with it, so yeah, you shoot his dumb ass.
And when the fool says anything about it - the proper answer is just what she said.
Someone doesn't like "abusive language"? Tough shit. Circumstances called for it. Get back to basics and stop pussy footing around.
Loud horns, Mace in the fire-extinguisher sized cans, saps, wood shampoos, and Pb @ 1300 fps are what the Community responds to, so give it to them good and hard.
Which sends a clear message to Dude & Co.?
1) "Excuse me my good fellow, I realize you're just engaging in tomfoolery, but I will take decisive action to defend myself from your unwarranted attack should it not cease and desist forthwith!"
2) *Pulls out Gun, points it right at Dude* "Hey, you dumbass muther F'er... Get your F'in hands where I can see them, and get your stupid ass on the ground or I'm shootin' your dumb ass... do it right f'in now!"
De-escalating... dumbest bunch of made up bullshit I've ever heard.
Does anyone know who this merit fraternity commander is from 002 who has the largest number of bids from his district to other districts? Is this the guy of appears at every roll call to spar officers and other supervisors for the most minor infractions? Is this the same guy who can be heard from down the halls of 002 screaming at subordinates and supervisors just to increase his own ego? Is this the guy who was a clown of a FTO and a joke of a tact lieutenant while working in 006? Who is this asshat and who's his clout? I need a promotion.
AMEN BROTHER!
Get off the the blog Andy. 016 can do some work also, go arrest some more americans for celebrating america 250
Too much de-escalation can get you hurt or killed.
Whoa there! One shooting does not a sergeant make. Definitely give her a pick of unit first and get some time under her belt.
You don't go from PPO to sergeant for one shooting.
After a good OIS and a round table in 007 on 1st watch early 2000s, young officer on 1st watch off probation did not get his first pick for a unit and was told not enough time kid....
what kind of zza?
SCC get this. The ghost of Heineken lives on. Apparently one of his drinking pals from 018 used every phone call to get to the range, only to leave after a few months because, according to J.S. “the instructors weren’t trained adequately to his liking.” So I asked around. He left because he wasn’t getting along with the instructors because he showed up with arrogance and acted like he wrote the manual for training. It gets better, he hits the medical at the end, few weeks before change day. I always thought JS was something else, but it all makes sense. Anyone associated with Hein always carries baggage that no one is willing to tolerate. You’re an idiot kid, you just burned every phonecall and now no one will vouch for you. Should’ve kept your mouth shut like you were told to.
We get it they suck
12 months of stress time off, with full pay, no callback???
Where is this written & when did it start?
So bitter. Do you need a hug? Maybe some attention from the wife?
You don’t know what you’re talking about. I was, as the watch commander, was at a few round tables. The purpose of the round table was to determine if a CR was appropriate. In that the overwhelming number of police shootings are good, cr were seldom obtained. But the incident was still reviewed by ops, states att, us att, news media and anyone with a big mouth who hated the police. I don’t know any one who was made sgt directly because of police involved shooting. I do remember a bank robbery, in the early 70s, in which a po & ppo stopped Dirty Harry style. The po was made a Det and the ppo was promoted to 1st class po pay grade. At all the round tables I attended, fop bought pizza.
100% correct!!!
Best line by the P/O, "He tried to take my gun and got a surprise."
Do not return until fully cleared by all oversight offices!!! Take care of yourselves.
Solid police work!!
They call him.....The Hand Job,....Not to be confused with 007's Odd Job
GREAT NEWS
LT Kevin Neary 019 AKA Fat Truhlar retires.
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Off duty defended victim after three young dudes tried to administer street justice for some shit he tried to do to them but, they are in a gang or three or four strong because older unc would take from him or they without hesitation. OFF DUTY PPO hears the commotion, assumes little homies are upto their usual shenanigans, f'ing with the old man.
She intervened, she de-escalated, she used minimal force, didn't put anyone in prison and when the "victim" felt he was safe to robb the good Samaritan, he tried to overpower her and steal her gun......? and when she WARNED him of what he may FIND OUT about the hard way, she gets dragged through the coals for three years for doing what her training, upbringing and survival insisting have taught her....? (And regardless, she is A WOMAN of color and a woman) Imagine if she was anything else. That is how anyone can clearly see why COPA is as corrupt and useless as the SAFE-T ACT. Eliminate COPA! Three years to figure this one out. COPA should grab a vest and blue shirt and try it out first hand.
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