Sunday, April 28, 2024

Adressing Underfunding? Haha

Can anyone explain what this means to the newer Tier 2 kids?

  • With a month and a half left in the General Assembly’s spring session, Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s administration is readying its proposal to address Illinois’ chronically underfunded pension system.

    But the governor this week also acknowledged in the strongest terms yet that any plans to finally get the state on track toward fully funding retirement plans for public school teachers, university employees and state workers could be derailed by a looming legal fight over a 14-year-old law.

    Pritzker’s comments came as Illinois’ two influential statewide teachers unions were wrapping up a “week of action,” encouraging their members to call and email lawmakers and urge them to essentially “undo” a 2010 law that created a new less generous pension system for those who began their jobs after Jan. 1, 2011.

    The General Assembly and then-Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn quickly approved that law in the wake of the Great Recession, which forced state leaders to grapple with decades of underfunding in Illinois’ pension systems.

    But in the years since, economists and labor leaders have repeatedly warned that the retirement benefits in the Tier 2 system are so low that they might violate federal “Safe Harbor” laws. Those laws dictate Social Security replacement plans, like pensions, can’t offer benefits that don’t at least match Social Security.

We'll tell you what we think it means:

  • massive tax increases and raising the retirement age

There might be more, but Fata$$ and the democrat super-majorities would rather spend hundreds of millions on illegal aliens than fixing a broken system.

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36 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Work Longer, Die Sooner"
That was my financial planners advise to me.

We live in a DEMOCRAT SHIT-HOLE where people use their $1600.00 cellphone to check their food stamp balance.

Just keep working harder.
Millions on welfare and those migrants coming over the boarder are counting on you.

4/28/2024 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The new "Tier 3" will be an Age 65 retirement plan.

Work 20 years; you get 50%.
THEN, you pay into a 457 plan to subsidize the pension.

NO ONE with an IQ over 60 or a 4 page RAP Sheet will come on this job.

4/28/2024 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If HB5211 passes Tier 2 would have to work until 62 AND have 35 years on the job to collect without penalty. That would be the nail in the coffin for CPD. As someone who is in Tier 1, I don’t want to see this passed because all the Tier 2’s that pay into the pension would leave. A much bigger deal needs to be made of this.

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=5211&GAID=17&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=153415&SessionID=112&GA=103

4/28/2024 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hogs get slaughtered. Cut COLA and raise retirement age across board for all State, city and County pensions.

4/28/2024 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not exactly broken to the politicals.

After all, it is the result of their talent for fucking up ever more ehatever they say they are going to fix.

So, in a way, it is a typically successful result of their stellar efforts to 'fix' things, where 'fix things', in politicals' dick shun nary, means 'fuck things up more', as long as there's a grift and the swag of graft to be had.

They keep their eyes on the prize and the prize is our pocketbooks being pilfered.



4/28/2024 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Photo: “ Gov. J.B. Pritzker is pictured on the state House floor on Thursday, April 18, 2024. (Jerry Nowicki / Capitol News Illinois)”

These people are in danger standing so close to him. If that floor caves in they will be sucked into the bowels of the earth with Gov Jelly Belly.

4/28/2024 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Governor Fat Bastard Sitting Front And Center During News
Corespondents Dinner With President Joe Biden Only Feet
Away Giving Bash Trump Dialogue On The Stage.
The President Gave A Pretty Good Performance During
His Rambling. Gov. Fat Bastard Grew Angry Seeing That
This Was The One Person That Could Keep Him From
Running In November For President. Governor Fat Bastard
Grew So Angry He Jumped Up On His Fat Hoofs And Screamed
At Joe “Get Into My Belly “ He Was Dragged Out By S/S Agents
And Charged With Trying To Eat The President Of The United States

4/28/2024 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad management equals bad results. Porky the pig is chasing business out of Illinois but he made sure that the illegals were taken care of and the criminals don't sit in jail and get to commit more crimes.

4/28/2024 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of a socialist pension system, everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want with their money. Invest your money like Elon Musk or a Jeff Besos and become incredibly wealthy.

Right now, we are being forced to pay 9% of our salary to the pension system. Abolish the pension system because it is socialist.

4/28/2024 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too many walking stiffs with pensions 100 grand and above unbelievable levels mostly college professors and educators

4/28/2024 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys nailed it. The state pulls hundreds of millions of dollars out of nowhere for the illegals after saying for years that there was no more money for the pensions

4/28/2024 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey pwickster, maybe if you paid your fair share of property taxes (hello toilets) there would be more money in these budgets

4/28/2024 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did it cost the city for retiree’s healthcare (trades). No money for that,but millions spent on illegals, keep voting democrat!

4/28/2024 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing goes under! If they can give millions to illegals, they will have to fund their debit! Just another lookie over here, not here. Just like social security, they give Ukraine billions but not fund SS? Please!

4/28/2024 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“ Anonymous said...
Hogs get slaughtered. Cut COLA and raise retirement age across board for all State, city and County pensions.

4/28/2024 12:42:00 AM”

Fuck you!

How about direct money away from illegal aliens and use all available money to fund the pension to 50% within 12 months.

Make it a criminal act for mismanaging the funds or underfunding.

Daley II and his crew of thieves should be rotting in prison for selling the parking meters and the Skyway.

4/28/2024 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“ Anonymous said...
Instead of a socialist pension system, everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want with their money. Invest your money like Elon Musk or a Jeff Besos and become incredibly wealthy.

Right now, we are being forced to pay 9% of our salary to the pension system. Abolish the pension system because it is socialist.

4/28/2024 06:34:00 AM”

Then abolish income tax too because it is theft by an illegal and unconstitutional bureaucracy, the IRS. They are socialist too aren’t they? They take from those that have and give it to those who have less.

And Musk and Bezos, as well as Zuckerberg are intelligence agency cutouts. You think they were allowed to “achieve” that kind of wealth independently? 😂

And you’re not a cop! Go troll somewhere else clown!

4/28/2024 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nothing goes under! If they can give millions to illegals, they will have to fund their debit! Just another lookie over here, not here. Just like social security, they give Ukraine billions but not fund SS? Please!

4/28/2024 08:03:00 AM”

Fuck that shit hole “the Ukraine”

It’s a money laundering operation. Politicians stealing.

And fuck illegal aliens too as well as organizations like Catholic Charities and every pseudo religious like it. That’s a money laundering operation as well.

The Kalergi Plan is well underway in America. Brought to you by Barry the Muslim Brotherhood ex Commander in Thief!

4/28/2024 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State needs to layoff 20% of workforce and all state income tax revenue goes to fund all current pensions and when 101% funded eliminate state income tax and then put all new state hires on 401k. No more pensions after 2024. This way in 30+ years you will be done with pension obligations.

Sounds simple until you figure in the graft in Illinois. Fund managers bribe (political donations) politicians to get a piece of the pension management business. No pensions no opportunity for grift. Look at any pension documents and you will see hundreds of fund managers per pension fund. All raking in fees to manage funds. And most of pensions invest in super conservative funds, bond, and money markets.

AI could do a better job at zero cost

4/28/2024 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO MORE GOLD BRAID PENSIONS! The highest pension should be capped at Lieutenant pay grade period! I'm sick of these clowns acting like they earned it. I know people who were in my CPD Academy home room who didn't have the study skills necessary to pass the weekly multiple choice tests. They would have to be spoon fed the answers for the follow-up tests.

But now 30 years later, they are District Commanders or higher! They enjoyed the graft and theft of being nominated meritoriously for every promotion they ever had, by passing part 1 of said exams with 69% scores (sometimes less.)

They were entitled assholes as recruits, and they're entitled "PPO Exempts" lol, 30 years later!

STOLEN..NOT EARNED!!

4/28/2024 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If HB5211 passes Tier 2 would have to work until 62 AND have 35 years on the job to collect without penalty. That would be the nail in the coffin for CPD. As someone who is in Tier 1, I don’t want to see this passed because all the Tier 2’s that pay into the pension would leave. A much bigger deal needs to be made of this.

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=5211&GAID=17&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=153415&SessionID=112&GA=103

That goes through I would take the annuity and split. Fuck this job and city.

4/28/2024 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave the system the way it is. Its ban enough the teachers only work 8 month a year. (spring break, summer break, Christmas break).

4/28/2024 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger DG in GA said...

So police pensions are INSTEAD OF Social Security, not IN ADDITION TO? I realize a lot of private sector employers no longer offer pension plans, but at least when they do it is in addition to Social Security. Do police officers have a program like 401K?

4/28/2024 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it is a Martwick bill, then you know it is a bad bill.

4/28/2024 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

decades of democRAT administrations chipping away at the unions and pensions they claim to support (only during elections). stop voting for them

4/28/2024 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Instead of a socialist pension system, everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want with their money. Invest your money like Elon Musk or a Jeff Besos and become incredibly wealthy.

Right now, we are being forced to pay 9% of our salary to the pension system. Abolish the pension system because it is socialist.

4/28/2024 06:34:00 AM

There is a different form of socialism that worked so well we had to destroy it make it seem like pure evil.

4/28/2024 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because illegals get counted on the census and don’t let any morons tell you otherwise.

4/28/2024 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There should be nothing over a Captain's pension period!!! It should be last civil service rank so fund doesn't get depleted

4/28/2024 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They think these "recently arriving migrants" will be paying state income taxes and property taxes in no time, as new source of tax-payments to plug Illinois public-sector pensions' shortfall before entire system derails. Somehow "migrants" are supposed to not become another POC component of Illinois' permanent welfare class-sector.

But "migrants" are presently acclimated to substantial cash and in-kind welfare payments, provided by Feds, by Illinois, and/or City of Chicago, via various programs and handouts. Migrants receive loaded debit cards, replenished each month. Realize this is trial-balloon for progressives' proposed wealth-redistribution goal, the proffered "guaranteed minimum income" program for low-income families. These "migrants" are not destined to achieve middle-class status within our lifetimes.

4/28/2024 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Blogger DG in GA said...
So police pensions are INSTEAD OF Social Security, not IN ADDITION TO? I realize a lot of private sector employers no longer offer pension plans, but at least when they do it is in addition to Social Security. Do police officers have a program like 401K?”

Thanks to that dead piece of shit Dan Rostenkowski, police are only allowed approximately 30% of any social security benefits accrued outside their employment with a police department. So if cops worked a job before coming on the job, or work a part time that pays into social security, you will only see 30% of what someone who was not a police officer would get.

A bill has been sitting in the US CONgress for years to reverse that piece of shit Rostenkowski’s work, but the the whores and sluts of DC who are representatives and senators don’t bring it to a vote.

If the bill was tied to the money laundering operation for that shit hole called Ukraine or for the illegal alien invasion of the USA from 3rd world shit holes, for sure it would be reversed.

4/28/2024 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Government employees have a 457 not a 401.

4/28/2024 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That goes through I would take the annuity and split. Fuck this job and city.

4/28/2024 10:56:00 AM

This passes I’m pulling out asap and finding a job outside of law enforcement. Fuck this department and this rotten city.

4/28/2024 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger I Voted For Kamala said...

Sarasota County Florida is looking for retired police officers to work as School Safety Deputies. The pay is almost thirty seven bucks per hour and health care is available. www.sarasotasheriff.org

4/29/2024 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4/28/2024 06:33:00 PM

Your 100% correct. I started my SS benefits last year and they fucked me over. I worked 10 years and had all my time to get it and they slashed it hard and big. I have received texts and emails from the clowns at national fop about this issue for years. At the end of each text or email guess what they want? If you guessed a donation for them to "continue" the fight you would be right. The fop both national and local are full of shit, scammers and totally fucking useless.

And rest in piss you jagoff rostenkowski. Stamp stealing piece of shit.

4/29/2024 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retirement age will be left alone, but the State-funded pension "ramp" will be extended yet again (currently 2045, but some were saying 2048 to 90% funding). Capitol Fax Blog covers this issues well.

4/29/2024 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous FROG (f'n real old guy) said...

Boy & Girls:

The CPD and CFD sworn put in 9% of their salary toward their pensions, the Teachers, just 2%, that is correct, just 2%. All of us get approx. 60+ percent reduction of any social security earned through other jobs, part time, full time pre and post city employment. For the past 30 years I have followed the bullshit nonsense of the equalization law that would make us whole and give us the money from S.S. we earned. At one time, 20+ years ago, Senator Lahey (Fuckhead) promised the F.O.P. that he would get this passed. There have been over 100 sponsors in the House and 60+ in the Senate, NEVER came out of committee, NEVER. So, hope you earn enough to have your Medicare payments that S.S. will pay.

As for the idiot above who stated they need to offer a 401K plan for the officers. That would cut out all retirees from now until the last one dies. Stupid, but you have no idea about anyone else. We are funded approx. 21% the last figures that I've seen, so a few years without new added funds by the current officers.

You have differed compensation that works wonder to supplement your pensions, if you join. It is self-directed but I'm sure you can get some advice from professionals on how to invest in the offerings. Worked for me very well. I was told when I was 16 that I should not count on S.S. by the time I retired, great advice by my grandfather who was very farsighted about government bullshit (sort of a Reagan ideologist before Regan's time).

Realize this, these people, Conehead, Fatass and all the other Fuckheads do not care if you get paid let alone collect a pension. They will to anything that endears them to the PLAN. Destroy the middle class and police departments anyway they can. Not just in Chicago but every location these libtards run things. Look around and see in every facet of your life, job, kid's schools, inflation, political prosecutions, no criminal prosecutions. I could go on for hours. For all the blacks that swear allegiance to the Democrat Party, it's almost over for you too. These Illegals are replacements for all of us. Work visas, pathway to citizenship and voting in short order. Voting has consequences my friends.

4/29/2024 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4/29/2024 01:53:00 PM

The 2% teachers pension payment is alittle more complicated. Years back when Jane Byrne was mayor the teachers were going to strike because the city said they had no money for raises. To avert a strike Brunei and CTU Lewis I believe brokered a deal when the city would pay 7% of the 9% pension the teachers were paying instead of the raises. That’s how the decrease started and the city was warned that it would come back to bite. I don’t agree with it, never did am just trying to explain how and why it came about

4/30/2024 11:08:00 AM  

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