Unlikely Numbers
Someone answered the question posed yesterday about retirement numbers, but we have our doubts:
- 780-800 Police Officers, 300-350 Sgts are set to retire.
For 780 Officers (from Patrolmen to Detectives to ETs to all sorts of specialized title codes) seems likely and almost aligns with our estimates, but we don't think there are 300 sergeants even eligible to leave.
Labels: department issues, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
34 Comments:
What’s the word on these interviews of those who applied for Commander with Sup?
PO's have to put in by 1 October of the previous year for the "age 55 CBA insurance deal" so perhaps some exempts or FOP many have a better idea of those retiring numbers.
Sergeants and above can go from 1 May to 31 December for the "age 55 deal" with only a 30 day notice to the department.
neilgoldman said...
Why would you leave before you hit your 25 year step increase unless you were forced off. 24 years 🤔
I retired a few years ago. Change can be difficult, especially giving up a routine you have done for decades. However, there is another world outside this job. No more cancelled days off, no more working holidays, no more midnights, no more sitting in court all day on an RDO, no more miserable co-workers, no more dealing with the public, etc.
Get there with your health, family situations, and finances in order.
There are over 50 Lts that are over 55 years old. How many of them are bolting also?
So what if it’s up to 500 sgt’s?? They don’t count.
I'm a Sgt. I was looking at the Jaspersoft seniority list for the rank last month. There are not 300 Sgt's who are 50 or older. Should 300 Sgt's retire that would be a bunch of guys or gals not collecting right away. I'm 53 just waiting for 55. There are tons of Sgt's in their 50's and late 40's but not that many. I see a bunch of Sgt's hitting the medical (nod nod wink wink) for the DNC not retiring.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I retired a few years ago. Change can be difficult, especially giving up a routine you have done for decades. However, there is another world outside this job. No more cancelled days off, no more working holidays, no more midnights, no more sitting in court all day on an RDO, no more miserable co-workers, no more dealing with the public, etc.
Get there with your health, family situations, and finances in order.
4/26/2024 03:59:00 AM
I left at 50 and I haven’t been happier. It’s like a juicy smolette noose was lifted off my neck. Everything you said was spot on.
Plenty of people leaving before 55. Including Sergeants.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
PO's have to put in by 1 October of the previous year for the "age 55 CBA insurance deal" so perhaps some exempts or FOP many have a better idea of those retiring numbers.
Sergeants and above can go from 1 May to 31 December for the "age 55 deal" with only a 30 day notice to the department.
4/26/2024 12:35:00 AM
Finally a voice of reason and not speculation. This data should be easy to obtain and then we can get a reasonable estimate of the number of department members leaving.
For 780 Officers (from Patrolmen to Detectives to ETs to all sorts of specialized title codes) seems likely and almost aligns with our estimates, but we don't think there are 300 sergeants even eligible to leave.
This should give sexual chocolate Conehead a woody...
Enjoy your earned retirements.
FOP should have the accurate numbers. However I do know from January 1st through April 30th this year there are 328 blue shirts that are retiring. I'm not aware of the numbers for the next three quarters of the calendar year.
Hope it's more.
Retired with 29 years.
My pension checks are more than when I was working.
The numbers seem right. We re in that 1993-1996sh range where the academy was slammed packed with officers. It would make sense that there are larger numbers now.
Anonymous said...
neilgoldman said...
Why would you leave before you hit your 25 year step increase unless you were forced off. 24 years 🤔
4/26/2024 02:10:00 AM
Retired with 20 here...no regrets!
You can't put a price on your sanity... Everyone has a time to go. Those who stay beyond their time usually become curmudgeons and very grumpy people that NO ONE wants to spend time with. They become victims of the "Stockholm" syndrome. Given today's political climate, I say it is wise to leave early if you can afford to do so. Leaving early gives you a better chance at returning to a "normal" life. A fit person in their fifties can find gainful employment elsewhere for a time.
Now bring on those yearly COLA raises...Membership at my "Country Club" just went up two percent and coffee at Starbucks is getting ridiculous!
"FORE...!"
Anonymous said...
There are over 50 Lts that are over 55 years old. How many of them are bolting also?
4/26/2024 06:05:00 AM
How many are maxed out and have pension time in rank?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So what if it’s up to 500 sgt’s?? They don’t count.
4/26/2024 06:26:00 AM
OK. Its a meeeelion!!
Where did they get their numbers from? How many have already submitted and a good guess would be those retiring would do it before the DNC convention
What’s the word on these interviews of those who applied for Commander with Sup?
Interviews have been completed. 30 people were granted interviews all Captains and Lieutenants.
Promotions , movement in May. Now, May of what year? That is the question.
Wrong, I just ran the numbers and as of right now there are 101 approved retirement PAR's in the system for all ranks from today through 16 AUG. However, supervisors only have to put in 30 days in advance, so those numbers could go up.
“Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired with 29 years.
My pension checks are more than when I was working.
4/26/2024 10:24:00 AM”
Yeah, because you’re not contributing to Deferred Compensation, paying Illinois State income tax, or life insurance deduction.
While there may not be 300-350 Sgts with enough time to retire, how many are looking to lateral to someplace (closer to) sane?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired with 29 years.
My pension checks are more than when I was working.
4/26/2024 10:24:00 AM
That may be so, but is the COLA keeping up with Bidenflation?
FJB.
I'm retiring!
Now Kees my ass you fools!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired with 29 years.
My pension checks are more than when I was working.
4/26/2024 10:24:00 AM”
Yeah, because you’re not contributing to Deferred Compensation, paying Illinois State income tax, or life insurance deduction.
4/26/2024 05:00:00 PM
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or pension
Anonymous Anonymous said...
neilgoldman said...
Why would you leave before you hit your 25 year step increase unless you were forced off. 24 years 🤔
4/26/2024 02:10:00 AM
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I see people saying this all the time ... "I am going to wait until the raise (either step of the next annual raise) " My old partner always said that. I told him why bother, that step raise is not going to up your pension unless you work it for four years. Working at the higher pay rate for one day isn't going to do squat. My ex-partner was really dumb. Could barely spell his name. He'll probably see this post and won't even realize I am talking about him.
I'm retiring!
Now Kees my ass you fools!
4/26/2024 08:29:00 PM
And thusly
The Velvet Glove slips salaciously
Betwixt the nethers
Deep into the History
Of the Mystery of
Of that
Damned Elusive Harlet Primpernal......
Retired with 20 here...no regrets!
You can't put a price on your sanity... Everyone has a time to go. Those who stay beyond their time usually become curmudgeons and very grumpy people that NO ONE wants to spend time with. They become victims of the "Stockholm" syndrome. Given today's political climate, I say it is wise to leave early if you can afford to do so. Leaving early gives you a better chance at returning to a "normal" life. A fit person in their fifties can find gainful employment elsewhere for a time.
Now bring on those yearly COLA raises...Membership at my "Country Club" just went up two percent and coffee at Starbucks is getting ridiculous!
"FORE...!"
20 year pension check is peanuts.I”ll stay and max out and then enjoy my retirement.
20 year pension check even with the cola in this economy is peanuts and you’ll have to go get another job
To supplement this and work until you die.No thanks I’ll take my chances and max out and then enjoy retirement .
You will be bored before the first month. There are only so many holes of golf to play. It’s nice not to have to wake up to an alarm even though you’ll be up at your regular time but what’s up for the day. If you have a hobby great if you’ve got another job fine but why retire. Yeah it’s nice not having to be told when you can eat lunch or for how long or being told what to wear. It certainly opens up travel options not having to pick the right furlough segment. Sometimes it’s time to go. Think this out all the way around
Good luck may St Michael watch over us all
Medical if you go will eat up half your pension check
Think long and hard. I know what you are going through
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