Define the Acronym - Part III
Yes, we've seen them pop up everywhere. Well here's a stand alone thread JUST for you guys. Today is your day to tell us what "S.O.S." and "T.R.U." stand for.
We shall dispense with the "Sons of Supervisors" and "Totally Retarded Unit" ones early. Let's see some originality folks.
We shall dispense with the "Sons of Supervisors" and "Totally Retarded Unit" ones early. Let's see some originality folks.
posted by SCC at 9:15 AM
64 Comments:
Hey M!
Here is link to story in today's Sun-Times regarding departments changing their stance on P/O's carrying weapons off-duty. Might be a good idea for a topic.
www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-arm28.html
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Whoa Damn- one more try!
OFF-DUTY CARRY
Read the story out of another city of a off duty P.O. killed by a rookie(key word here) P.O. who "wasnt trained to Identify a "plain clothes officer"..heres what I think..there will always be costly mistakes causing loss of life by those P.O.s who aren't "properly trained"(what a joke) or just Plain F'N stupid..(more truer to life)i have seen it more and more with whats coming out of the Academy..(where do they find some of these metal midgets?) I have been in a few close calls during high stressfull events and I always kick into what i know..IDENTIFY YOUR SELF IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET. and GOD Protect us
keep the guns in all our hands..
sheep dogs...wolfs...sheep
the choice is in your hands
-filmore-
Oh great! Now we have the gun control fight at the feet of working cops. First it will be no guns off duty, then only on duty in certain assignments and finaly no guns at all.
Of course these rules don't apply to the dopers, thieves and killers out on the street.
Just imagine how good those gun-hating Liberals like Richard M Daley will feel!
Cops have to learn they must really support the Second Amendment for ALL law abiding Americans.
Don't enforce the Chicago gun bans or even UUW against people who are not involved in some other criminal activity. Give them back their guns and send them on their way with a smile!
I read the article in yesterday's Washington Post. Two points to note.
One, they aren't "banning" guns off-duty. They are just not requiring guns off duty. For example, at drinking establishments while drinking. Seems like a good idea, and I don't think Chicago has a requirement that coppers carry guns into bars.
Two, the standardized NYC training, following several tragic misidentification incidents. It seems like a VERY good idea to have a challenge/pass codewords for off-duty coppers to use in such incidents. "I'm on the job" seems a little too easy for criminals to pick up on, especially now that its publicized. But there should be something one could should to make a uniform hesitate before pulling the trigger. "Remember Haymarket!" perhaps?
Reply to the 12:07 post.
And the gangbanger cops working on this job will tell their gangbanger friends/family what the challenge word is. Its usless.
A copper should not be packing while under the influence. Where and when he packs including bars should be the choice of the copper.
The same rules should also apply to all law abiding citizens.
I remember the story(1970s)of the copper that lived in a Northside 4+1 apartment building. He came home shitfaced, entered an elevator, got off the elevator and walked to his apartment front door. He could not get his key to work in the door properly and heard noise inside. He knew it had to be a burglar so he kicked the door down and chased a figue through the darkness to the bathroom where that door was quickly locked. The copper fired a few rounds from is Browning Hi-Power 9MM through the bathroom door. On the other side of the door lay a now dead elderly woman.
Our hero got off on the WRONG floor.
Reply to 12:20, the whole issue is training.
In an emergency, an off-duty PO may have been trained to yell something specific. For example, by yelling it as a group in roll-call 5 times in a row in one night, and then 2 times in a row a week later.
Gangbangers are almost never organized enough to train for these incidents, and would never have the presence of mind to remember a codeword when surprised by the police.
The better retort to the NYC policy is that a WELL-TRAINED criminal gang may take advantage of this someday. For example, bank robbers or hijackers may take the time to learn the challenge/pass, if they particularly find it likely to be on the wrong end of a uniform's gun.
All in all, I haven't seen any coverage of incidents of gangbangers killing coppers by confusing them with the correct password. I have, however, seen what seems like a fairly notable decrease of plainclothes and/or off-duty police officers getting shot by uniforms in NYC, Boston and the other NE cities.
So yes, it seems like a good idea.
For what its worth, when I would get stuck with a new recruit (yes, I know we all start out new, but I am not an FTO) I would take them to the tac office and introduce them ( and also at the same time I was letting our tac teams know I had a new one) so naturally they would ride on my jobs a little quicker. This was in busy districts.
A code word is a good idea. Every1 knows what Time Check Squad, means. It is still used and I learned that one over 20 years ago.
Is the Mayors kid allowed to use/train with his gun in the army???
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The Mayors kid is serving hi country, to me he is a hero, like all our fighting men.
About guns nd booze, I say lets bring back the days of Telli's and te four a.m. streetlight competition.
More Gun Talk: How about showing the button/badge or what ever?
I remember when a young Northside tac kid shot and killed another copper in a heartbreaking and tragic mistake. The lighting was bad and the adrenalin was really over the top.
A wonderful mom of an Irish tac guy got an idea. She made great looking, custom Irish caps for the whole tac team. She also gave one to long time WBBM reporter, John Drummond who was a good friend to all coppers. Drummond wears his while reporting news to this day.
The caps allowed coppers to ID each other even in subdued lighting. I’m sure that great old gal has passed on by now and is up in Heaven still figuring out way of protecting coppers from harm.
I’ve seen coppers wear Bears knit caps and alike for the same purpose.
Time Check Squad?
I was "Squad", and I would never recognize a hidden meaning in there, 'cept maybe "I want to quit receiving jobs earlier than my bosses told you to quit giving them to me".
For safety codes on the radio, I'd be surprised if other places haven't picked up the...
"xxx, what's your location?" following a name check or plate check. That seems pretty clear cut, and its waaaay better than the panic tones used by many places (which would, it seem, serve to inform subjects that their detainers were being warned of danger).
this problem is so simple,DONT GET INVOLVED IN ANYTHING OFF DUTY!!!! all you are required to do is dial 911 and report an incident.Unless it involves me directly or another p.o. i wont play police off duty. Too many factors that come back and bite you in the ass and if you think this city is going to back you up think twice.
get involved in anything off duty ? Good question/issue, maybe calling 911 is the best option, UNLESS you or someone who is with you is in danger of serious physical harm (leaving it up to each individual, as compared to Illinois law, to determine that). Then, a decision has to be made as to what to do (i.e., shoot?); there's no time to think about lawsuits in some situations. And how about the idea of retired po's carrying weapons? legal now, any thoughts?
Way to post a thread that cuts on two of the hardest working units in the dept. Way to go SCC...
And no, I don't work for them
Anonymous said...
For what its worth, when I would get stuck with a new recruit (yes, I know we all start out new, but I am not an FTO) I would take them to the tac office and introduce them ( and also at the same time I was letting our tac teams know I had a new one) so naturally they would ride on my jobs a little quicker. This was in busy districts.
11/28/2005 12:50:10 PM
Ya, I bet the tac guys REALLY cared too!
Anonymous said...
this problem is so simple,DONT GET INVOLVED IN ANYTHING OFF DUTY!!!! all you are required to do is dial 911 and report an incident.Unless it involves me directly or another p.o. i wont play police off duty. Too many factors that come back and bite you in the ass and if you think this city is going to back you up think twice.
11/28/2005 01:42:59 PM
This is the smarter option, but one day you wont get to choose!
true but hopefully i will have my snubby with me and the lord will guide me to aim and shoot true.
From the anonymous comments:
Way to post a thread that cuts on two of the hardest working units in the dept. Way to go SCC...
And no, I don't work for them
11/28/2005 02:50:43 PM
Boo Fucking Hoo. Everyone gets a turn in the barrel. SCC's done CAPS, OPS, IAD and all everyone talks about is TRU, SOS and 016. About time they got their own thread. Maybe you could come up with a positive acronym for those units. It's your own fault for being a negative nellie. I for one am hoping he does a whole bunch of alphabet units because its humorous.
Keep it going SCC and ignore these goofs who claim this is boring, childish, or a waste of time. They keep coming back to see it don't they?
Savages
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Remember a time when this job was supposed to be fun?
Stop all the bitching and go with it!!
Don't get involved in anything off-duty, 1631 doesn't get involved in anything on-duty.
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the real police..
dont hate you wanna be's..
learn to use your cuffs
and get off your ass.
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If you really think SOS is the hardest workers in the city, you obviously haven't been on the job long enough to know what SOS used to be and/or the old SOG.
They were the real police. SOS is a fucking joke now. I think the downfall started when they took the extra guys with federal grant.
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Beat 934 Third Watch has been missing. No signs of Comp time slips. They entered the contact cards in the CLEAR system and are now missing.
To 5:15
Amen brother 1631 hasnt done shit on beat since two hardworking married to each other women been on beat.....
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Hey 7:50 post
SOS/SOG Now vs. Then same as it always was...some exceptional coppers and clout kids along with the usual dogs.Just like any other unit. If you been on that long you should know better. SOS is still pound for pound the best unit hands down.
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Hey 7:50 post
SOS/SOG Now vs. Then same as it always was...some exceptional coppers and clout kids along with the usual dogs.Just like any other unit. If you been on that long you should know better. SOS is still pound for pound the best unit hands down.
11/28/2005 09:05:13 PM
Hey Carl Suchocki thanks for posting and btw you and the other SWAT guys are cute =)
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I know more than a few guys on that unit and I'm sorry to say, they are the furthest thing from "elite". Most of the people on that unit are on it for all the wrong reasons. Seems like SOS has been the dumping ground for idiots with clout, or got lucky in a situation while working a beat car. Too many guys on that unit are good checker players; but no chess skills.
SOS!!!! we have the most guns recovered by any unit, all gun teams combined, all gang/tac teams in the city, and yes more than TRU unit. we are the ELITE......
Gun off the street by any means, cause safe just one officers life.
" could save" you got me worked up!
we go out day in day out for the purpose of weapon recovery. And to send bad guys to prison.
S.O.S. is just like any other place in the dept. we have our share of beatoffs. Just like SVU mutts and beat coppers that lay down on jobs as long as they can.
It's sad supervisors have no back bones, as they allow this to happen. What is the fear of these worthless dogs. Speak up sgts. Don't worry cause the fucks aren't coming to a 10-1 anyway! They work harder at hiding that working less than eight hours. We all have them they know who they are!!! and so do we. Throw a bone once in the while at them... "hey where were you guys with the man with a gun call"????? Fuck these dogs.
Talk is cheap.
Regardless of unit, an accurate tally on Part I FELONY ARREST INCIDENTS by officer would truly reveal the working police from the dog asses.
Theoretically, there could be an officer in a slow district with a prolific record of felony arrest incidents while there's a guy in 011 or 007 that rarely, perhaps never appeared in felony court.
Furthermore, neither gender, ethnicity, political connections (or lack thereof) nor assignment would impede an OBJECTIVE analysis of the officers who are doing real police work.
Any officer that reads this KNOWS I speak the TRUTH.
I agree with the following tweaks.
Holding shoplifters for the police does not count.
Incidents of gun recoveries WITH arrest/s count. No sandbagging otherwise innocent armed merchants, etc.
No objection to paper shufflers, clerical inside police who have ALREADY "paid their dues".
ALL promotees and certainly exempts must have "paid their dues."
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YES, I'M RETARDED.
Get Bent!!!
"Working Police" you say?
I've known this working police you speak of. He's the guy who sits on noise disturbances for hours, and finds "hand waivers" immediately after he is assigned a shoplifter, traffic accident, or other paper/time consuming job, just so he can "hunt" for that part 1 felony (non-retail theft). He's the one who sandbags his co-workers with his non-honorable mention worthy work. I'm always glad when his phonecall comes in, and he makes it to SOS/Tact. The New guys that take his car may do something different, like actually answer their calls for service, even those lowly shoplifters.
It's not all about guns, drugs, and glory.
The traffic car takes the accidents you/we don't want, and more power to him for it. Likewise for the parker car, the retail theft car, domestic car, etc.. Work in a district where a backlog is the norn, not the exception, and you will understand the hatred of the gloryhound (only care about part 1 felony arrests) copper I described above.
Go to your job, do what needs to be done, CLEAR IMMEDIATELY and GO TO THE NEXT JOB. To me, that's a "working coppper".
I HATE DOG ASSES! Always will. But, not every "working copper" will be in a position to bring in that part 1 felony arrest every day, or even most days. Only good supervisors will put an end to the dog asses. If the guys you work with are willing to handle your slop while you hunt, that's great, and keep hooking them up, but give your co-corkers their credit as well. Without them, you can't hunt.
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Still the most accurate, as it implies the necessity for politics to enter into the unit at some level, which it necessarily does.
11/28/2005 12:07:25 PM
mint challenge coins, like they have in the service. No better yet challenge tattoo's, yeah that's the ticket!
SOS!!!! we have the most guns recovered by any unit, all gun teams combined, all gang/tac teams in the city, and yes more than TRU unit. we are the ELITE......
BaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
If you really think that is what the rest of the deparment thinks of you guys you are sadly mistaken. SOS is a fucking JOKE.
(and no, I never applied and got rejected) Elite. ROFLMAO. I. Can't. Stop. Laughing.
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