Rumors We've Heard
Rumors that seem to have some basis in fact. Anything else, post in the comments section.
- Detective's Class - 50 Detectives (from the new list) in the academy for January. Supposedly they have the class times and instructors booked already. But 50 won't even keep up with promotions and retirements. The Department is very shorthanded.
- Sergeant's Class - We heard (HEARD) that the rumor of them cutting short the Detective portion of training is complete BS. They are spending the whole 90 days in the areas and the final portion of training begins immediately after the January dick's class graduates - around 06 February. The class should be an even 100. Also, the list is up through fall of 2006, maybe spring of 2007.
- Lieutenant's Test - The test is in the final planning stages and should (SHOULD) be administered before summer, but that is a very iffy type rumor. Take it with a grain of salt - our sources were very vague on this one. No word if they'll do one more class, but it looks doubtful.
Rumor becomes reality - a northside source of ours (thanks S) confirms that an order has been cut requiring a Daily Bulletin to be in squad cars at all times. We stand by our description of this as a "pimpy" mover though. Your working guys always had a copy and your non workers never used it anyway. Auditing & Internal Control must be using this as a "stop-gap" measure for falling infraction numbers since black vest covers are now legal and city stickers aren't due for another 6 months.
posted by SCC at 10:35 PM
137 Comments:
So I assume they will make at least one more class of sgt's from this list. Maybe hope after all...
THE Daily Bulletin IS WORTHLESS. The RDs are wrong, descriptions are incomplete or wrong, out of date info.
The Daily Bulletin is a paper, time and money waster.
Why not have all the necessary info, including "hot spots", gangs and lookouts available on the PDTs. When you sign on, it should tell even a new guy on a beat car everything he needs to know about the beat.
They would never take this suggestion from me, watch some brass take it and make it so.
THE WOULD MAKE TO MUCH SENSE. THEY NEED TO KEEP THEE HACKS IN GRAPHIC ARTS AND THE COPY ROOM EMPLOYED.
There was talk of a "digital daily bulletin" on all the laptops which whould be cheaper to produce, easier to correct and completly up to date.
Right at your fingertips...and it slipped right through the hands of the CPD.
I think the digital daily bulletin will come in after our on-line case reporting goes into effect that I was told about 7 years ago as I entered the WORLD BEST POLICE ACADEMY!!!
The "Daily Bulletin in the squad car" has to be a direct result from the cr # from the randy rencher escape.
P.O.'s: "We had no idea who randy was or what he was wanted for because we don't read the paper or watch the news."
CPD: "We posted his picture and story on the daily bulletin everyday for a month"
P.O.'s: Daily What?
CPD: The daily Bulletin god dam it! we have a staff of 40 p.o.'s who print up funny little stories and tell us little nit bit's of police rules and regulations and sometimes we photo shop bad guys photos on there or blurry black and white pictures of some poor rich ladies stolen 50 ct. diamond ring that was taken in a burglary. Do you know what we are talking about now?
P.O.'s: UM.... no... we are to busy at roll call watching streaming video's to be reading anything.
CPD: Brilliant!!!!! Streaming Daily Bulletin's!!!!!!
Computerized Daily Bulletin is coming. As of the latest issue of the Police Star magazine, it is only avavilable ON LINE! They want to save money and time on printing and distribution, so they got rid of the paper copies. Watch for the Bulletins to be next
Kinda ironic that they want us to have a copy of the bulletin pasted on our foreheads at all times, yet they don't seem to be expanding or requiring us to have department e-mail addresses. They could send the dang thang to ya every day like all the other wacky alerts they currently e-mail to us. ("Hey yah Inspector, sir- just readd`aboudd'dat triple homicide on 1614's beat over my Honey Nut Cheerios at breakyfast... uhhh- do I got a "bump card"? Why... uh crappp...!") Maybe that's just around the corner. Or maybe legalities/discretion won't allow it. Could they be afraid that rougue offices' will share it with some bad guy buddies? You'd think more info would always be better, but just maybe the Ivory Cubicle's Braintrust has all the angles measured. Hell, if all the case reports ever go digital it'd be pretty interesting to get the 24-hr. reports in your inbox every morning, but maybe Randall "Jolly" Rencher would get his mitts on those too...? ;-P
Daily Bulletins with seven digit RD#'s WILL br kept in the car!!
Good idea, keep your head down reading DB's, DOC sheet and contact cards....
Dont they your have to have your head up to look out the windows?????
Digital DB's. Yea then peter karl can go on his crimewatch and say how the information is available in 4 seconds like registraion info. I run a plate and get the info up to 4 minutes later. Why all the lies?
The city doesnt want us to make arrests.
First thing they have to change back is have the Hot Sheet on the back of the Daily Bulletin. Those vehicle desriptions presently used are for the most far, worthless. Let's see, the offenders' vehicle in the agg. batt. was a four-door, dark-colored Chevy. What good is that?
And may all the supercops that bash SVU if they make Detective, may they go to SVU and their eyes will be opened just like many who had the opportunity to rotate through SVU.
They will learn. Even the supercops that were cross-trained destined for greatness in homicide saw the unseen work that goes on in SVU.
Who cares about SVU? You are making your D2A quit crying.
I did not cry. I only hope that the bashers who make detective come to SVU. You enjoy your D1 pay and stop crying ABOUT everything. Like I said before some of you D1's bash everyone else but dream about getting out of District Law Enforcement and WHINE WHINE WHINE.
You can see it on the blog. The SVU bashing was started by whom, Oh D1's.
I don't fault you for wanting out of District Law Enforcement, but boy oh boy, do you bash everyone else who wants to do something else.
For all you police out there:
Heard about this site and wanted to post a message to you. I manage a coffee house in Lincoln Park (you can guess which chain but that is not important.) As managers we have the discretion to give police free cups of coffee. I recently stopped this practice for three reasons:
1. The police are always rude when the get their coffee and never say thank you;
2. Needless to say, they never leave a tip after their free cup;
3. The police are always upset when they find out they can’t get a specialty drink for free.
So I stopped the practice an now when I ask you to pay like everyone else you either walk out without your coffee or give us a mean look and never come back again.
Am I being unreasonable about this?
Okay help out an old retired bastard. What are black vest covers?
Dear old retired bastard,
"Black vest covers" are covers for your vest, that are black.
Hope that keeps you informed.
Anonymous said...
"For all you police out there:
Heard about this site and wanted to post a message to you. I manage a coffee house in Lincoln Park (you can guess which chain but that is not important.) As managers we have the discretion to give police free cups of coffee. I recently stopped this practice for three reasons:
1. The police are always rude when the get their coffee and never say thank you;
2. Needless to say, they never leave a tip after their free cup;
3. The police are always upset when they find out they can’t get a specialty drink for free.
So I stopped the practice an now when I ask you to pay like everyone else you either walk out without your coffee or give us a mean look and never come back again.
Am I being unreasonable about this?
11/25/2005 08:00:39 AM"
First, anyone who speaks in absolutes loses credibility with me such as "always rude, never say thank you, never leave a tip, always upset that they can't have a specialty drink for free,etc."
I don't believe for a minute that you NEVER got a thank you or a tip and that the cops were ALWAYS rude.
You do what you think you have to. The truth is if your coffee is that good, the police will still come.
If it was mediocre to begin with but was offered free and now you charge for it, maybe it was good for free coffee but if they have to pay it might as well be at a better spot.
I think the cops made their choice.
I personally think that a tip jar at a counter serve coffee shop is a bit rude and presumptive.
Sorry for your bad experience, but I really doubt that this post is for real.
If we have to explain what a "vest" is, then God bless you because that means you've been collecting from the pension fund for a LOOOOOOOONGG time.
Or that you have alzheimer's, in which case, God bless your wife.
To the manager, the answer is no, you are not being unreasonable. I have personally observed my breathren, off-duty no less, demanding, yes DEMANDING a discount for food at a carry out restaurant. It was a pathetic display.
Demanding??? You are right, that is pathetic.
"You can see it on the blog. The SVU bashing was started by whom, Oh D1's."
Listen retard getting D2 pay Svu. who else has to jump through your hoops????sgts? lt's? No its us p.o's that have to wait hours so when you come you can bitch and moan." no parent....I can't take em.." do your job peice of shit. Your a D2 pay babysitter!
In response to the coffee manager's post, we should start a thread listing the places ruined by cheap coppers who can't leave a tip (like post 8:20) and act like jag-offs.
Once a copper knows he can get something free, or at a really good discount, he/she will abuse it to the point that the privilege will be taken away just like we are little children. And like the bad little child, we deserve it. Pathetic.
UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE USELESS ADMIN COPS AT 35th STREET DONT SAY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT HAPPEN!!!
The reason why that chain stopped the free coffee is because some educated yuppy, much like the same who have diseased our department got offended that we ( low life uneducated coppers) got free coffee when they ( the educated and oh so wonderfull yuppy) was educated and far more deserving.
That yuppy wrote a letter to the corporate office crying. But remember the educated yuppy wont work the street in chicago, but they want to change everything on the street from behind a desk.
Theres only one thing I hate more than the educated yuppy liberal and thats the Daleys.
I am amazed at coppers and how cheap they are. Even if I catch a break I leave it back in the tip. One way or the other I pay because I have a job and can pay.
We are just a pathetic department and we wont change untill we change ourselves. We need a new mayor. We need to only allow a mayor 8 years in office. We are only as good as the top. And the top is discuting.
Sorry spell checker police "discusting" I dont want you to get all upset.
I remember when Best Buy in Evanston, on Howard Street, used to give us the employee discount plus 20% off. A copper came in and only got the employee discount, made a big fuss, complained to the manger, acted like a complete ass and fucked the whole thing up for the rest of us. Now, you have to bring you Sunday coupon to get your discount just like any other "joe" on the street. You guys in 024 know whom I am talking about.
In 018 we use to get into the Lowes Theater for free and we could bring a friend in for half off. A guy from a south side district heard about it and made a big stink when his girlfriend could not get in for free. (What a fucking cheap-ass). Needless to say he ruined it for the rest of use.
How about the free McDonalds that the 7th Dist coppers messed up in the 009th District at 43rd and Ashland. There were seven cars from the 007th District eating there. I called it the Last Supper. Thanks useless Englewood Rangers.
I also would like to thank the coppers from the 002nd District that burned out Burger King Archer and Ashland. Stay out of our Districts. Useless prinks. Maybe we lost the Burger King because two 2nd Dist Cops were inside and did not take any action on a Disturbance. Tulsa Power was advised not to let any outside districts inside the building!! STAY OUT
The biggest cheap asses are the guys working Housing Special in Cabrini. They would go by the van loads into these restaurants in 018 and eat for free, then leave a $1 or 2 tip for the watress. Imagine making all that overtime and still wanting a free meal with very little tip left.
My favorite story of a copper ruining a good thing goes back 10 years. There use to be a Denny’s on NW Hwy where to Hooters is now. A copper on his way to eat there for free stops a waitress that works there for running a stop sign. REFUSESE TO GIVE HER A BREAK!!!! Goes to get his free 3am breakfast and does not get a break after the waitress told his server what had just happened. That ended the free food for a while until the rest of us on the watch took up a kitty to pay for her ticket.
We can be such assholes sometimes.
Guess what Officer, it does happen and on a regular basis. Because of my job allows me to go citywide , there are no restrictions on where I can go to grab a cup or some lunch. I routinely stop at various Starbucks throughout Areas 3 and 5.After you get to know the people that work behind the counter and they realize that your not a bad guy they confide in you. You would not believe the stories that I hear. Things like coppers demanding free beverages or food and then becoming indignant when they don't get what they want or receiving them and not even leaving a tip. Some of our bretheren actually think that these businesses owe it to the Police to provide them with free food and drink. It's embarrassing. One time I walked into a KFC with an old timer. He ordered and when the clerk who was a new guy had the audacity to ask for payment, you should have seen the act this copper put on. I just wanted to get out of there as fast as possible. Never enter a restaurant or coffee shop unless you have the money to pay. If they give you a break, take care of the wait staff. Remember, these people often work for minimum wage. Show a little respect for them, yourself and the uniform you wear. Please.
TIME TO RELAXS no quarreling!
Subject: The Difference between Rookies and Veterans
A Rookie loses his lunch at a homicide scene.
A Veteran eats his lunch at a homicide scene.
A Rookie uses McDonalds drive thru so he won't miss a call.
A Veteran spends 45 minutes drinking coffee at Dunkin Donuts.
You can't read a Rookies name plate because it's polished so brightly.
A Veteran doesn't wear one for liability reasons.
A Rookie puts too much in reports.
A Veteran doesn't do reports.
A Rookie loves foot pursuits.
A Veteran makes the rookie do foot pursuits.
A Rookie is given 40 hours training on communications at the academy.
A Veteran was given 40 rounds of ammunition when he left the academy.
A Rookie wants everyone to know he is a cop.
A Veteran is a cop everyone knows.
A Rookie loves to find stolen vehicles.
A Veteran doesn't care about stolen vehicles unless someone is in them.
A Rookie can spot an expired tag at 50 yards.
A Veteran can't spot anything at 50 yards.
A Rookie spends two hours on a follow up.
A Veteran gives the follow up to detectives.
A Rookie thinks every death is a homicide.
A Veteran thinks every death is a suicide.
A Rookie calls the brass by their rank.
A Veteran calls the brass by their first name.
A Rookie carries a laptop computer.
A Veteran writes on his hand
A Rookie checks out deserted spots in hope of finding a drug deal in
progress.
A Veteran checks out deserted spots in hope of finding a place to sleep.
Amen to post 11:05.
As stupid as the "different stages of a career" posting. I've got 15 years on and I've met plenty of dogs who are senior to me. They were dogs with 5 years on and their dogs now. I've met plenty of outstanding, hardworking, gounded coppers with 3 years on. A goof is a goof.
It's about time somebody mentioned the cheapness/rudeness of some (only a very small percentage) coppers. We all know who they are and we should call them out because they are just ruining it for everybody. I always hate making the food run for the desk crew because they order $10.00 worth of food and give you $5.00. They usually order from places that help us but sometimes that does not always happen and do they get pissed when they have to fork over a dollar or two more. What they don't realize is that the poor stiff who has to go get the food looks like a clown hoping that he/she will get some help on the bill. I had to do a coffee run for the 019th district desk crew one time and almost vomitted from embarrassment when the manager of the shop explained to me why his shop did not give the police a discount anymore. What made that situation even worse was when I delivered the coffee to the desk and a female ppo stated "what did you do wrong, we always get are coffee free there". I have since been in the same shop and have been "helped" by the same manager but I know it is only because of the way I treat her. The best part is that I do not even drink coffee but I will stop in there for an orange juice and to see how things are going.
50 detectives isn't shit. A/4 is down 45 det's, by title code, from 5 years ago. There many title code det's working in SVU. Violent Crimes and Property Grimes are down more than 45 bodies. I know the whole department is running sort, but it's an insult to all the coppers who did well on the test for the department to run under staffed and leave these postions empty.
Soory lots of typos in the last post. Even though everyone is called "detective", Gang Specialists and Youth Investigators still have their old 916* title codes.
To 10:58:54 PM Poster:
What is my PDT is broken? How can I get all that important info?
Anonymous said...
I remember when Best Buy in Evanston, on Howard Street, used to give us the employee discount plus 20% off. A copper came in and only got the employee discount, made a big fuss, complained to the manger, acted like a complete ass and fucked the whole thing up for the rest of us. Now, you have to bring you Sunday coupon to get your discount just like any other "joe" on the street. You guys in 024 know whom I am talking about.
11/25/2005 09:59:42 AM
No, I don't know who it is, and I've been there 10 years. How about initials and current watch, or just the idiots name..
12:05 AWESOME STORY
How about the copper that works inside yet wears his uniform jacket to work just to get a free cup of joe when he stops at Dunkin Donuts. Or the copper that is off duty and dones his uniform to get some free food.
What about the asshole copper that ruined Jay's potato chips, by sellin the freebies at the flea market? And the coppers and firemen that ruined Sears by going in and buying appliances for their whole families, neighbors, etc.? The list goes on!! If you have a place that takes care of you, keep it to yourself. I can't tell you how many times a place gave us a break and then your with an asshole that doesn't even leave a tip, so I always had to double tip. Furthermore, I saw a place get ruined because the desk crew actually called and complained about a messed up food order, that was free!!!! Guess what, no more free food. I don't blame the coffee shop guy, but don't say ALL of us are rude, etc.
I used to work for a W/C who was a real "JAGOFF" and every day he use to give me $5.00 and send me to Huckfinns for a soup and a sandwich because he knew it pissed me off,and to top it off we were in the same D.O.G so I had to put up with this bullshit 6 days a week.Well What I did'nt tell him was that I knew the mgr pretty good,and she took care of us.I made about $75 off that dumb sonabitch,then one day I took time due and he sent one of the kiss ass brods to get his soup and sandwhich and she brought the money back telling him it was free.When I came back he asked me about it and I did the RO has no knowledge routine!It was one of my finest moments and there was'nt a thing he could do about it.I love this job,stay safe!!!!
THE REAL STORY WHY THE NEW SERGEANTS ARE DETAILED TO THE DETECTIVE AREAS FOR 90 DAYS.
Basically the department is just using these people as "bodies". They are there to help assist in clearing as many cases as they can in that 90 day period. For the most part a ton of the cases are just bullshit so they can easily clear them up. The REAL dicks can work on the more difficult tasks.
Once the cases get knocked down a little.. the temp-detectives are then promoted to sergeant. This way, the department attempts to function with the least amount of real detectives.
1:15 You shouldn't have went to the store for this guy if you didn't want to...BUT keeping the money makes you as petty as he is, it also made you a liar and a thieve
It makes him one of my heroes on this job.
If they give you a break, take care of the wait staff. Remember, these people often work for minimum wage. Show a little respect for them, yourself and the uniform you wear. Please.
11/25/2005 11:05:38 AM
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Why do some cops feel they are such hot shit? WE are blue collar working types, too!
nonymous said...
50 detectives isn't shit. A/4 is down 45 det's, by title code, from 5 years ago. There many title code det's working in SVU. Violent Crimes and Property Grimes are down more than 45 bodies. I know the whole department is running sort, but it's an insult to all the coppers who did well on the test for the department to run under staffed and leave these postions empty.
11/25/2005 12:15:01 PM
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Dont you fret! All the one's that got the answers will heading your way really soon.
Pssst! Hey! What's the answer for the Homicide on Roosevelt and Independence?
Don't know, don't care, I got my own case load.
Quote:
"Anonymous said...
Soory lots of typos in the last post. Even though everyone is called "detective", Gang Specialists and Youth Investigators still have their old 916* title codes."
That will change next year with the new budget. Those title codes for Youth Investigators and Gang Specialists have already changed on the Payroll Checks. The A & A's will change next year with the new budget. Look at the '06 budget online, no more 9167's or 9162's only 9165. So no, there are no more "Youth Investigators" or "Gang Specialists," just Detective Title Code 9165.
The new contract allows the removal or 9167 and 9162 from the budget and it has been removed.
TO The Real Story,
What fucken planet are you from???
The Sgts. are not in the area handling any case. They are not Detectives and can not be assigned cases, clear cases or reclassify cases. They sit here in the area nignt after night and play cards on the computer and read paper back books. Thats all they do.
The real purpose they are here is so when they need Sgts in the Det. Div. the Dept. can say well he/she is Det. trained so send him to the D-Unit...
They sure do get cases.
What about the female p/o in 014 who has burnt every free spot in the district!
to 05:04
You could not be more wrong...
Anonymous said...
to 05:04
You could not be more wrong...
11/25/2005 05:16:13 PM
Sorry, must be my imagination.
That poster who talked about the supt's effeminate looking hands, I never noticed it before but he's right, they are very small and almost morph like.
Yes must be! I have 4 Sgt. wanna bes sitting right here with me. I have a stack of hand outs they have none. But they sure are reading the paper from end to end.
They have never used CHRIS before, have no idea how to use CHRIS and are not authorized to use CHRIS.
Now you tell me how the fuck they are going to work or clear cases?
Ill say it again P.O. a Sgt. or a Lt. can not clear, suspend, or reclassifiy a case. Not even if they are assigned to the Det. Div. Only a Det. can!
I know exactly who you are talking about...she went to the Starbucks at Cal/Logan once (off duty of course) and got 5 lbs of coffee saying it was for the desk. Manager gives it to her for free and off she goes. Manager calls the desk a while later to ask how everyone one liked the coffee (don't ask me why) and the desk SGT answers the phone. It comes out that no coffee ever made it to the desk and through deductive reasoning, it was figured out who had made the coffee run. Desk SGT calls her at home, tells her that if he doesn't hear that the coffee was paid for in 15 minutes he would make out a theft case report. Then there was the incident at McDonalds, the movie theater, Tasty Freeze....
The Sgts in training have had 2 weeks of basic investigative training and should carry some type of case load. While they are detailed to the Areas they are making out of grade D2A pay. Already there are a few in Area 1 that have done nothing but tie up computers surfing the net and talking like big shots. While they are there they should use the opportunity to learn something...
KFC, Laramie & Chicago, was free, but not frequented very often, crowded, etc., basically a place you ate at on the 15th & 30th,
Off duty copper, lets call him Frank, stops in district, gets dressed, and goes out, goes to KFC and orders 100 pieces, said it was for desk, they give it to him, he goes back to station, changes, and goes home for kids b-day party,
About an hour later, car stops in to have dinner, girl asks what type of "Party" are they having at station, coppers say "HUH" and she identifies the officer by name, describing his actions,
Desk apologizes, but no one ever called him on it.
You are wrong on that one, after the first week in the area after leaving the academy, we received handouts almost every day and they had to be cleared before we left to make Sgt. I handled near 20 handouts and was sent out on a few jobs, that was in area 4, we were trained on chris in the academy and given access to handle our cases.
You must be talkinig about "dirty Sanchez" in 014. I was at the Mc D's on Milwaukee/Sawyer one day years ago eating when she walked in, went behind the counter and filled up a bag with Big Macs and 1/4 pounders, said Thanks and left. The Mgr came over and asked what he could do about it because she did it at least 3-4 times a week.
20 handouts in 90 days? You probably needed a vaction after that.
I'll name one...Hoffencamp in 009, years ago he burned the White castle on Archer and Ashland. He would get sacks of burgers for free to give to his nasty Latin King screwing girlfriend and her brats. After that it was no longer free.
This old, broken down, retired bastard still does not get it!
Okay I have an old Second Chance vest. The cover was white and I only wore it under my uniform shirt. Now I see unifiorm shirt vests white or light blue worn on the outside.
Can coppers can now wear a black vert over their uniform shirts? Or is that just for the HBT stuff I see?
No, I did not get the very first call box key handed out!!! We even had Motorola those heavy HT-220 radios in my day.
Where can I get an old Chicago police baffel siren these days? That's a true give away to my age...
O.B.D.R.B.,
Several years ago the guys in Tact and Gangs North West and South wore their vests in a black cordura carrier, The Det's seeing this, didn't want to miss out on the fashion and started wearing them as well. Some Det's even went as far as getting their vest covers done up in plaid, argyle, and even cartoon characters. LeRoy and Matt The Bottle decided it wasn't proper and made it an Inspectors felony to wear a vest carrier in any color but blue or white if you were in uniform. The black vest carrier was still being worn by most plain clothes guys though. Recently Big Phil decided it was ok to wear the black vest carrier while in uniform along with those shitty looking baseball caps they have now.
Does that help getting under your 25 mission hat?
Heard from a good source in the Academy that there are no plans for 50 detectives in January. The 50 bodies you are hearing of is another recruit class, this time only 50 starting near the end of January. No word on detectives yet.
Is it just me getting older or am I losing my fargin' mind? I only have 15 years on and some of these young bucs don't understand what I'm talking about. I speak the english language rather well but it seems I'm not coming through to them.
Here's some of the phrases I've used in the last few months that have drawn that "deer in the headlights" look.
25 mission hat
Watch party
Going around the clock
Box Chevy
Call box key
2 point 5's
Walk and talk
Temperature check on a plate.
Drop gun
floaters
Star Gazer
Shit magnet
Did I miss something because I didn't go to college and got on this job with a good enough diploma?
Back in Gangs North, we would wear our black vests outside our uniform shirts when we were in uniform for the day and wear them when we were in CD and I NEVER got written up by an inspector.
I/F forever............
About 13-14 years ago, I'm working the wagon in Town Hall with a little bald guy (GS). He says, "You know the kids have been good, I'm gonna treat 'em to a pizza." I'm thinking, "what a swell dad." Well he goes into Domino's. I'm watching him the whole time from the truck and the cheap prick never goes into his pocket. A few minutes later, he returns to the wagon with a hot pie. Now this is where it gets good. A few weeks later, I'm eating lunch in a now defunct beef stand on Clark Street with the Sarge and my partner. Same guy comes into the beef stand with a Domino's Pizza, asks the guys behind the counter if they like pizza and leaves several minutes later with a sack full of bartered beef sandwiches. The sarge without missing a beat replies, "You think that was something? He's gonna take those beef sandwiches over to Midas and parlay them into a brake job. I almost fell off of my seat.
SCC, that would be a good topic for a thread: old police slang that's not used anymore. How about Chapter 38?
anyone remember taking someone in for a 192?
How about:
doubling back
get your 5 and 1 and a bus check
71, 72, 73 (wagons)
09 (district ET)
Neighborhood Relations (pre Caps)
"Anonymous said...
Yes must be! I have 4 Sgt. wanna bes sitting right here with me. I have a stack of hand outs they have none. But they sure are reading the paper from end to end.
They have never used CHRIS before, have no idea how to use CHRIS and are not authorized to use CHRIS.
Now you tell me how the fuck they are going to work or clear cases?
Ill say it again P.O. a Sgt. or a Lt. can not clear, suspend, or reclassifiy a case. Not even if they are assigned to the Det. Div. Only a Det. can!
11/25/2005 05:33:38 PM"
They cleared them before and they will clear them again. I suspect we won't hear from you again when you find out you are wrong, wrong wrong. Go ask your CMO's if they are going to be getting jobs.
The answer is YES. They are getting D2A, have access to CHRIS, and can/will clear/close cases.
Can you type without swearing or is that how you type your case reports?
Lets not put the story out there that the "play detectives" are doing anything. I won't work with you fucks anyway because you're management doing P.O.'s work. You are SCAB FUCKING LABOR! 1 out of 5 of you will attempt to do something with your handouts and the rest will just fuck off. Gimme a break, you're exactly the kind of idiot that will be talkin' about when you were in the "D unit" 5 years from now. I've already met a few of you retards on the street. Be thankful the city the paid you D2A to be fuck off scab labor and quit pretending that you were a detective. New detectives are still with training detectives 90 days out of det school. You trying to tell me you were the man during your few periods in an area? You're not the first one to think it and I'm sure you won't be the last. Enjoy the fact that your scab management ass is stealing a spot from working P.O.'s.
disorderly conduct was a 193 not 192
4 banger
sorry buddy,,but it was taken them in for a 193...not 192...i was in gangs north,,,,I/F love
PPO FRUGOLI'S UNIFORM LOOKS NICER THAN PPO HALL'S.
PPO Frugoli's uniform looks better than PPO Hall's.
ask the coppers around housing/001/008/sos about mirabelli, mark... what a cheap prick this guy is.. goes to ditkas orders 200 bucks worth of food then throws a hissy fit cuz he got charged full boat. it doesnt end there... that guy has burned so many spots its unreal
to the 10:09 Poster
Did you know that GS from 023 was working the wagon with JL nicknamed Fuzzy. The laprey eel
the two of them invented copper wire
They found a penny and pulled it so hard fighting over it, that it turned to wire.
Ask the number 1 senior desk guy there on days about the time GS had a pizza delivered to the desk,for himself without telling anyone and the desk guys ate it.
Im gonna miss this job
right you are 193 was a disorderly conduct (pre-printed on an arrest report just check the box) I believe 192 was some type of liquor related thing like the present day drinking on the public way
25 mission hat
Watch party
Going around the clock
Box Chevy
Call box key
2 point 5's
Walk and talk
Temperature check on a plate.
Drop gun
floaters
Star Gazer
Shit magnet
whats a 2 point 5??
Jays potatoe chips isn't ruined...I still go there a couple times a year....the last time being 2 months ago......they don't give what they used to....but they do still give:)
This guy nicknamed Fuzzy from Town Hall, have I got a story on him. We got new vests sometime in early 90s. Shortly thereafter, there was a formal inspection. We were still going around the clock at that time. The Third watch WC said make sure you're wearing your vests during inspections. So we're standing in line, the commander comes up to Fuzzy and asks him if he had his vest. He knocks on his chest and says yeah. A short time later, I watch Fuzzy take a pizza box off and hang it in his locker. He cut a hole in the folded side of the box and was wearing the pizza box instead of his vest. I was told he'd sold the vest already.
Definition of a 2 point 5: The CHA police. When asked why the CHA police were called 2 point 5's, the project dweller stated that "cause they just aint 5 Oh!"
Tell me more about "Dirty" Sanchez
Any inside word on how many dets will make it off this new list...Im around 400 and would like to know if I got a shot...Thanks
The city doesn't know what it's doing next month. You can't predict 5 years out.
I/F now theres a blast from the past..... Miss the old days of Gangs North/West/South. Still have the famous Bob Dart Flying Squad Wings.....
501 before that a 47 UART, also 11-33. How's that for old poolice slang.
Why sh*t, son- if you didn't ring your bell over the air, you didn't have any kind of night worth mentioning on the street. You weren't buying any rounds at the gin mill in either event, rookie! HA HA HA (Ding-a-ling-ting-a-ling!)
I/F i still wear my flying squad wings everyday on my radio strap..great days in the gang north unit,,,H.B.
SPEAKING OF CHEAP ASS COPPERS, I WORKED WITH A LAZY PO FROM 016 WHO HAD NEVER BEEN TO BUCKTOWN AREA SANDWICH SHOP, WHILE WE WERE THERE I ORDERED AND BASICALLY FINISHED MY SANDWICH WHEN HE JUST SAT DOWN. HE HAD A COKE, CHIPS, COOKIE, AND TWO SANDWICHES. I STATED HE MUST BE HUNGRY, HE SAID NO, BUT FOR THE PRICE, $2.00, HE GOT TWO, HE WOULD BRING THE OTHER ONE HOME.
Years ago the Brown's chicken at 80th and Halsted was half price if you ate it there, full boat if you took it out. One day the manager decided to change it. On the house if you ate it there, half price if you took it out. Well needless to say, after about a month, it looked like a substation for the 6th District. Within two months he went back to the half price if you ate in. Police love to kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
HEY 11/25/2005 11:45:24 PM . . .
Just remember.. these guys are going to be SERGEANTS OF POLICE and your not.. You are still just a "P.O. assigned as a detective"
And by the way.. why are they scabs? Has the FOP told them not to take the temp detective assignments? NO.
As you were detective.
Know all the others but what is "25 mission hat" & "temperature check on a plate"?
I've only got 6 on...but I'm gonna guess a "temperature check on a plate" means "Is it hot?"
11/27/2005 12:31:56 AM
I can tell you are very impressed with yourself. You write Sergeant of Police as if the title gives you respect. Respect is earned zippy, the city can call you whatever it wants, you'll still be a stroke.
We have management and we have labor. You are management doing labor's job. Therefore the city doesn't have to hire more labor. That makes you a scab. The fact that the F.O.P. doesn't say anything is meaningless to me. Those eunuchs are busy sucking from Fat Phil's man tits to say boo. The F.O.P. lets officers placed off a test into a D2 spot work for close to a year work at D1 pay without saying anything. Is that okay? Those characters are to busy giving themselves perks.
The title sergeant comes from the military tradition. In the U.S. this is written into federal law under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. A sergeant has legal authority over subordinates. You have ADMINISTRATIVE authority over your subordinates. I can not be punished in the court system for telling you to go fuck yourself. Using military rank was a way for the city to bestow some validity on this circus. They could just have easily designated your rank "Bozo" or "Cookie". So, Mr. Scab Supervisor, why don't you go fuck yourself. And no, I'm not angry about a promotion test. I didn't take one because it would be a pay cut from working in an Area.
Im not sure BUT "25 mission hat" comes from the WWII slang about the pilots hat being worn out after flying combat 25 missions.
I think 50 were required to be excused from flying further combat missions.
The guy who owned Rickys at Belmont and Broadway, Belden at Belden and Clark and the Diplomat on Fullerton was great to the CPD
I bet 200 guys ate there daily between the 3 joints for YEARS
The "25 Mission Hat" refers to the uniform (usualy a lighter shade of blue due to wear) hat. and the way it kind of folded over on the sides, you looked like a WWII ace.
ok fashin police what knid of bras did you wear no dont tell us {puking} yawn war storys
As a recruit in 019 back in '89, I got stuck working with a certain person for a whole week. It was hell.
One day, we went to Pat's Pizza on Western. You could eat for free then, but you had to sit in the kitchen. Screw that. I'll pay full price before I eat for free in somebodies kitchen! Anyhow, he gets a beef sandwich (which I'm sure he didn't pay for). We then proceeded to the 7-Eleven at Leavitt and Belmont (gone now). This guy stood in the back of the store, eating his sandwich, drinking free pop.
It gets better. Later that day, we take our foot patrol around 2200 W. Roscoe. There used to be a resale shop there. We stop in, he finds a pair of boy's hockey skates for $2. "Just my son's size," he says. He proceeds to try and get the owner to reduce the price to $1. I walked out, embarassed as hell.
He was well known for going around 019, 020 and 024, in uniform, off duty, getting food for his family.
At the opposite end of the spectrum I worked with a guy a couple of times, who would only go to certain restaurants once a month, so he wouldn't burn them out. He would only take people who he knew wouldn't blab. We went to a very nice Italian place on Lincoln. Our meal cost almost $50. It was free, but he told me to leave the tip. I had no problem leaving $15-20.
I never told anyone about that (as a result, every time we worked together, we'd go to a nice place for dinner) and I learned to always go in to a place expecting to pay and if not, leave a nice tip.
"temperature check on a plate"
was meant as a way of saying, "I don't need the SOS registration information, I just need to know if it comes up immediately as stolen via the Chicago LEADS system.
Due to Chicago's system being seperate from the rest of the state, you'd get a quick hit on a hot car from Chicago's data entry information, but would have to wait for SOS registration information.
In a way, it was a way of saving air time.
Here's another old one:
Squad, gimme a deluxe
The New Sgt's in training are CLEARED to accvess CHRIS and they are getting assigned minor cases...NO, They CAN NOT CLEAR CASES but they CAN DO SUPS and follow up's....and YES WE ARE getting D2A pay...the fact of the matter is this....we are NOT detectives....we cannot prepare cases like detectives and you find me one detective out there that would want us working on his/her homicide case??? because when we leave 30 January06 that case will be someone else's case that we fucked up....that's the reason we are not given any quantity of cases to work on if any cases at all....and that is just common sense....we are really there to learn how to properly secure a scene and find out what's needed when the dicks arrive....so as to not fuck anything up....I don't know what all the hatred is for....we are not taking anyone's money away or making any problems for anyone....this is Cline's program and he thinks that anyone on this department that is NOT a detective is basically a MORON....that is why he is cross training all new supervisors so.....blame your hatred on him.... Like the old saying goes...."You signed up for the job....now do it and shut the fuck up.." Not directed at anyone just an old military quote. Be safe
You created a fifty mission hat by folding the hat and putting a rubber band around it, or by stuffing the hst into the crack of the front seat. I even dragged my brand new leather rig dow a sidewalk so I would look seasoned. We would use the hat to conceal a snub nose in iffy situations. I would not be caught dead in that baseball hat.
What up Cowboy (HB)?
to: 12:17
I was told I would not respond to this topic again, by someone who knows every thing. Good post but I,ll bet he will tell you too, that you have no idea what you are talking about.
When CLINE made chief of dicks, he said no supervisor would be appointed to the D-Unit who had not been a Dick. What he had not counted on was lack of dicks who wanted to leave the unit to be promoted to Sgt. in some shit district on midnights. Now before I get jumped on by Mr Knows everything. This created a shortage of Sgts. for the D-Unit.
The solutuion, train any new Sgts. in a short Det. traning so they would at least have some idea what the Dicks do. Before this training started we would get Sgts. who had no clue when they got here. They were not sent here because they would make a great Sgt. in the D-Unit. They got sent here because of clout. Now I am not saying that some of the Sgts we have that were never dicks dont belong here. Some of them are very good, and we are glad to have them.
I'll sat it again no Sgt. in training in the Area I work in is being assigned cases, not even hand outs. They are working along side the Dicks on cases and are NOT doing Det. supps or clearing cases. If they are doing this in other areas it would be against our sacret general orders.
Since I was told by Mr. knows everything I would not responde to this topic again I will give him his wish. I did not post the information I posted to get in a pissing match with some one over this topic.
Again 12:17 good post.
That's a pretty good fantasy about Cline wanting Sgt.'s in the D unit to have been Detectives. When I get to work tomorrow I'll let the 3 we've gotten in my VC unit since last summer know they have to leave because they were never Det's. There is no shortage of Sgt's who were Det.'s. Look at the promotion lists when they come out. All three of my partners since I became a Det. have been promoted. The problem is they don't have the juice to get back. So what it comes down to is that Cline wants more Sgt's with juice to have rudimentary Detective experience.
How about:
"ring the bell"
"filmore fin"
"pop a head"
"Insane Fish"
"give me a deluxe on a..."
"squad put a lunch ticket behind this job"
"call the zone for your jobs"
recovered handgun= 30 points
recovered handgun w/ a head = 35 points
any PCS arrest = 3 points
Traffic guys had White hats and wore lots of jewelry....
A hook on an accident scene was good for $50
Whore Court
"If you don't get 1 mover, 5 parkers and a bus check a day you won't be picked up next period"
Old Zone 4 dispatcher Harry Hewitt on first watch:
"Coca Cola time in Fillmore!"
11/27/2005 02:57:16 AM
Mr. Big City Dick maybe I am a stroke maybe not.. . I give a shit. I STILL MAKE MORE THAN YOU and DO ABSOLUTELY NO WORK here in shitville.
We are NOT SCABS.. We have a more legitimate and stronger union than the FOP. We ARE NOT MANAGEMENT.. If you studied Police and Fire labor law in Illinois you would know that we would NOT be allowed to unionize if we were considered management. You have no time to go to school probably because your doing your super cop bullshit for peanuts. We have a right to RECOMMEND suspension time when INCOMPETENT MORONS FUCK UP and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
We laugh at you bumbling idiots as you arrive at a crime scene an hour after you should have. I too was a detective and made close to what the fucking Superintendent was making. However that was when we had a license to steal. It certainly IS NOT the same job that it was when I made dick almost 25 years ago. There is accountability and I know that many of you are crying and sweating it out.
For your information I make close to a quarter of a million stealing.. uh I mean selling real estate. For all you kids out there use your heads and go back to school. The city pays for it!! Don’t be an idiot like MR BIG CITY DICK here. Get a real side job MAKING REAL MONEY! Not bullshit security or police nonsense as you shovel yourself into an early grave. Just remember Mr. Dick as you are on the city clock making blood money, I’m at you house popping your old lady in the can.
I worked for the decent people when I had to and gave them good service. Now I just back my guys so they don’t get hurt. Either way, whether I’m Bozo of Police or Cookie of Police I will make more on my pension now and especially when I retire as a lieutenant which I certainly will be promoted to. (Because I have lots of time on my hands to study when I’m not doing Mrs. Big City Dick) AND REMEMBER. . . The Bozo of Police which is what I am is higher than rank than you AND in the Bureau of Operational Services.. so don’t give me a hard time or I’ll have to SPAR you and give you a day. However please take the comp time so you will stay at work and Superintendent Beefy Man Tits and I can finish satisfying your wife.
Just admit that you have thrown out the biggest case of sour grapes ever.. Jealously is a disease. Just study harder next time son.. You too can wear a nice white shirt one day and get the chicks.
8:29:54 <------What is that all about? If you're making a quarter of a mil, good for you. You do have a problem though.....either you're full of shit, or you are soft. If I was making a quarter of a mil on a side job, I wouldn't give a shit about someone's rantings on a blog.
Okay...lemme get this straight...you make $250,000 a year at your side job and you're concerned about the difference between a detective's and sergeant's pension? And with over 25 years total on the job wouldn't it make sense to retire now (before you make lt. in the next class I'm sure) so you can spend twice as much time and maybe make half a million next year? Yer realllllllllllllllyyyy smart and obviously reallllllllllllyyyy secure with yourself Sgt. Retard.
Let's do the math on our superior sergeant: if he made dick 25 years ago, and 3 years on the job is minimum to make dick, that means he has 28 years on the job. Assuming he was very young when he got hired, he has to either be 50 or close to it.
If he makes what he says he makes, who gives a shit about a lieutenant's pension? Especially when you need to have four years in grade to make it a lieutenant's pension! Personally, I think he's some jagoff making up a lot of shit, because if he was making what he says he makes, and has the time on the job he says he does, he'd have retired by now and would be drinking fancy drinks with umbrellas in them.
But what do you expect in a blog such as this? Just because someone contributes something doesn't mean they're 1. telling the truth, or 2. the police. Personally, I think it's some jagoff talking shit, because the real copper, with the pension and the money would not be wasting his time reading our rantings.
I'm glad that somebody realized that "super sgt" is full of shit. None of his claims made any sense but something tells me that is how he has been going through his entire life. Telling lies to make himself better and cover up his shortcomings.
7:18
call back
filmore fin= three dollars
arrest
started in 014 went to 1st watch 025 80's-90's
Complete S.O.S info on vehicle
we need dinner dammit after handling 15 jobs out the box
use the blue "bat" phone behind the desk
Miss all those court dates good for a minimum of 18hrs a period.
i hate to say it guys, there are quite a few coppers out there . . P.O.s and bosses who are raking it in on the side with real careers. Then they just suck of the citys tit for gas money an a pension. This jagoff sgt is making all of the coppers busting there asses look like idiots. its true working O.T., going to court for peanuts is for suckers.
What are you talking about? A guy says he has 28 years on is now in sgt's school and making 250K on a side job and you believe him? Have you ever arrested anyone? Or do you let them go when they say its their brothers pants? That old bat who started this thing is a goof. He's either in sgt's training or he's a detective, but he can't be both because detectives don't go through preservice detective training. If they do give his loony ass some chevrons all I can say is you can send a monkey to the moon but it doesn't make him an astronaut.
I don't think anyone was saying don't better youself or your future...we were just saying that Sgt. Noselfesteem was a lying idiot. I'm sure all of his accolades, real or imagined, earn about as much respect in the real world as they do on this page. None. You can't earn the respect of others until you respect yourself sergeant-you should have learned that sometime over your 50+ years...it's not too late!!
Anonymous said...
Okay...lemme get this straight...you make $250,000 a year at your side job and you're concerned about the difference between a detective's and sergeant's pension? And with over 25 years total on the job wouldn't it make sense to retire now (before you make lt. in the next class I'm sure) so you can spend twice as much time and maybe make half a million next year? Yer realllllllllllllllyyyy smart and obviously reallllllllllllyyyy secure with yourself Sgt. Retard.
11/27/2005 10:20:06 PM
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He MADE $250, /yr in RE. When the market cools, he wont.
Office (not a typo) you got a square?
Office just beat me and let me go.
I got me a deuce (Buick electra 225).
TO THE SUPER SGT...........GO FUCK YOURSELF...AGAIN TALK SHIT FROM A DISTANCE...IM GLAD YOU ADMITTED BEING A FUCKING THIEF. YOUR A PUSSY IF UR A LT OR CMDR.......
I thought a "bell ringer" was a pretty good night with traffic stops?
It is..........ding ding ding
Here's another cheap copper story....I worked with this guy on the third watch and he was pure embarrassment! A certain bank in the district would cash our payroll checks for free...because they liked the police on their premises, a win/win situation, right?? Well one day I'm driving and he says"Go thru the drive up so I can cash my check" and I said "no problem" The teller gives him the whole check in $100.00 dollar bills...then he says "Now drive me to XYZ bank outside the district so I can deposit this money in MY bank..do you get it...the cheap bastard was simply using the first bank to receive the "float" on that cash money for two lousy days...I was embarrassed FOR him.
You rang the bell,when you made your 1st hundred.
Sounds like mr. big city dick has some issues with anyone that wears a white shirt. But he's right when i was in sgt's preservice det. training I didn't learn much. I did learn that detectives take the first hour to decide where to eat. Then a large group ususally around 8 or more all go to dinner for about 2 hours. After the first 3 hours is wasted on lunch its time to handle your personal affairs like pick up your clothes from the cleaners. Next its off to Starbucks for a cup of coffee and to watch women. None of this WORK occurs in the area they are assigned. 2 hours later its time to work. after 2 hours of trying to locate a witness they go back to the area turn in their cars and cut out 1 hour early. Unless their is a crime scene then it's slow down till overtime.
So what I learned in the 90 day detail is that I fucked up.....
1)I should have studied to make detective.
2)The food downtown tastes better.
3)There is alot of hot chicks around downtown Starbucks.
4)Just like in every dist. only about 10% of the personell assigned there really know there job and do it well.
I liked some of the detective's I was around. Some really knew there job. But like the old timers who "been there, done that" they aren't very open to giving out pointers and suggestions. ( let's face it they can't teach you, cause you either have it or you don't.) But then there are alot of do nothing, self important spanks, who could only elicite a fashion statement from a perp. But he's always in the staion with "what do ya got kid?" and "This is all bullshit, Never gonna get approved!" with out hearing half the story.
fake hooters from 023 owes EVERYONE money, but always has enough to be a barfly. fake hooters would take all the cash from the kitty. but it on her charge and make a decent profit after the discount was applied.
car booted, landlord calls D/C about late rent. farnsworth used to help her with a deposit , IN HER MOUTH
Po's. Det's, sgts,Lts,Cpt,Deputy Chiefs,and the Super...tell me what were you all before you became the police??The CPD for most of you was a step up in money, benefits etc. because most of you were blue collar workers or low level office or managment types...Bank Teller, bartender. mechanic,bus driver etc...etc...etc....CPD is not the military...you may be a Sgt....but you are definetly not Patton...you all need to get over yourselves and remember where you came from and that you are a employee of the City of Chicago a civil servant...bitch and moan and cry but would you really like to go back to what you were doing prior to your spectacular entrance into the CPD..........
Sarge, thanks for ratting us out in the D Unit. I can't believe you passed the Sgt's test using "their" for the word "there". You'll be a great boss, I'm sure you're (oops, your) men will love you.
Blow me.
11/29/2005 09:05:29 AM ..
awwwwww... sorry you didn't do that well on the sgt test.. study harder next time son.
NOW, COME UP FROM YOUR JOB ! ! !
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