Wednesday, November 23, 2005

Pre-Thanksgiving Quick Hits

WE WILL BE POSTING OVER THE HOLIDAY!

Just because no one is going to be working at 35th Street for the next 4 days and administrative offices across the city will be unmanned, is no reason not to visit SecondCityCop blog over the long weekend! We'll try to track down a "turkey leg homicide" or a "cranberry beat down" and we are SURE there will be a deepfryer related fire or two, probably in Bridgeport AND Canaryville.
  • Squad car accident injured a Lieutenant, and unrestrained child and kills a woman. Channel 2; Channel 5; Channel 7; Tribune. "And lo, unto the Southside, a lawsuit was born."
  • We don't normally wish ill upon people (that karma train can be a bitch when it comes around) but in this case we will make an exception and echo a few of our commentators by wishing nothing but coal in the stocking of whomever bailed out this piece of garbage. We will also wish for a few extra boxes of ammunition and encourage EVERYONE to go practice at the range. Just one more accurate shot and this isn't even a story.
Anyway, have a Happy Thanksgiving. We're especially thankful for our 80,000th visitor that should happen late tonight or early tomorrow. Check in over the long weekend because we'll be here. We're working on a few things and we'll have another "Define the Acronym" post on Monday.

91 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

35th St. empty and admin. offices unmanned....would anybody notice?

11/23/2005 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Thanksgiving to all

11/23/2005 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three more armed robberies in 016 yesterday, good job per usual by 016 worthless coppers.

11/23/2005 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take a look at the scumbag that got out of CCDOC for the holidays....the guy that got shot by the police 25 times and lived. Such a joyous occasion when a guy that tries to kill a police officer is let out by an anonymous liberal mutt who posted 187,000 to get him out.....where is the justice?

11/23/2005 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Come on now.. said...

Thank WGCI they put up money too. And what about that fat faced race baiter Jesse Jackson who is coming to the defense of scum on death row in California, the scum who started the Crips gang. He is suppose to die but Jesse said dont blame him for his murders blame racist society and police? Snoop Dog came to defense too but we all know, except media, that hes a Crip.....

11/23/2005 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm retired. Could you guys explain what a "DOC" is? What do the letters stand for?

In context, I get the impression that it's the worst area of a district for violent crime and/or crime in general.

Happy Turkey, guys!

11/23/2005 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Three more armed robberies in 016 yesterday, good job per usual by 016 worthless coppers.

11/23/2005 12:09:26 PM

if you think you can do a better job in 016 come on down. cars go unmanned everyday. blame cline for the robberies

11/23/2005 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DOC I think equals deployment operation center.....new BS of the department

11/23/2005 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: 12:16....there might be some justice, if....1) he blows the next court date, and the gov. takes the bond money; and 2) at some point thereafter, he gets gunned down by someone from another gang....

11/23/2005 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like SCC said one more shot and the animals would be wearing a "RIP Howard" shirt with his mugshot on it. I hope when the end for these two comes (Morgan and the piece of shit donor) they can rot in hell together. Thank God those officers only sustained minor injuries.

11/23/2005 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

couldn't take it anymore. I wrote WLS a comment. I know it wont matter, but I had to...

11/23/2005 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DOC
department of corrections

11/23/2005 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DOC is another pussified bullshit tool thanks to the yuppy no street thinking police.

This department is way below the embarrassing stage. By the way,,,I am sleeping with the daily bulletin under my pillow.

11/23/2005 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, just heard from 35th, CPD, in attempt to help with budget gaps will be producing, get this, S.W.A.T. hair gel, hitting shelves by Christmas....

11/23/2005 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the super copper bad mouthing the 16th district again sorry you have nothing else to do with your four day holiday vacation from your rat cubicle at 35th street no bosses to suck up to
no one around to tell some one elses war stories to
bid to the district and make a differance
oh i forgot that would mean working the street and its much more dangerous than working your glory hole in the cubicle wall

11/23/2005 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

D.O.C. is just something that the districts use to justify the need to call in outside units. The "D.O.C." is used to cover the areas the the tact/gang teams can't or won't. Most district "D.O.C." areas are in the shittiest neighborhoods in said districts. These areas are picked by the "2-3 yr wonders that be", who sit in a office at H.Q. and read reports that are a few days old regarding incidents that occurred in the locations. They haven't got a clue. It's like putting band-aide on scratch when the bullet hole next to it needs the attention. (minor fix) In the old days the police could put the heat on these areas. The trouble would disappear or move to other neighborhoods. But now, everyone is too quick to sue and the ACLU is ready to sue, also.
We need to loosen the laws to lock up the gangsters a lot easier. Get rid of gang dispersals and use the Dis/Con not only as a threat.
The Blue light camera boxes are a joke. They just drain the city's electricity that we have to pay for. I'll stop ranting, now. have a great holiday, all.

11/23/2005 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dude if your gonna bash someone at least spell properly ......(difference) try again sgt

11/23/2005 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok loudmouth, you claim there were several armed robberies in 016 and the worthless Police did nothing. Tell us where, when and give us the RD or event numbers please. If you can't or won't, then shutup and leave those guys and that District alone. Either that or transfer in and show them how it's done. I'm tired of hearing about it. And no, I don't work there!

11/23/2005 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

016 = pussies

11/23/2005 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

412 you are an idiot who has no clue

11/23/2005 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

add 4:26 to the idiot list also

11/23/2005 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Retiree, heres what the DOC is. The official title is Deployment Operations Center. Every week downtown looks at the shootings in each District and deploys manpower in those areas that have the most shootings or violence. They pull Gang Teams from the Districts that do not have much violent crime and ship them to the DOC area. For instance, I work in Area 5. Most of the time the DOC is in either 015 or 025. Gang Teams from 016,017, 014 as well as SOS and the TRU are sent there to help reduce violent crime. As a result Districts like 016 almost never see their Gang Teams, they are always in the DOC. The DOC can change every week or remain the same depending on the amount of shootings. The concept is good but it needs to be tweaked. For instance, most shootings occur on the 3rd watch yet the DOC remains the same on the 2nd. watch. And what about the Districts that send their Teams to the DOC? Are they not entitled to a Gang Team?
Hope this helps and that you are enjoying your retirement.

Oh yea. There may be two year wonders working downtown crunching the numbers for the DOC but the ones I know have 13 years on and the other has 24.

11/23/2005 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gives a rat's fat ass? all the extra support, and bogging down 010's lock-up last week with absolute bullshit, and someone still got capped.....pure bullshit.

11/23/2005 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh no, they clogged up the lockup? Imagine that, Officers bringing prisoners into the lockup. My God what next? I'll bet they are going to ask the lockup keepers to do some work. Another reason to hate this job!

11/23/2005 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe the bottom line is....TRU, SOS, moving area gang teams from one spot to another, initiating midnight area gang teams....there might be at least two principles that should be recognized: 1) moving police from one part of the city to another does nothing (to solve problems) other than to push problems from one location to another; 2) the creation of extra units (TRU, etc.) is the city's way of doing an end run on the city's residents' concerns that their police beats would be reduced, i.e., that police would be re-deployed....NO KIDDING......Hello, taxpayers, anyone notice how long it takes for the police to respond to calls for service, the same calls when in years past, the police would respond very quickly?

11/23/2005 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck GCI, the anonymous donor and anyone else who put up money for this shitbag. Oh yeah, fuck Danny Glover, Susan Sarandon, Ben and Jerry’s and the other "celebrities" funding the Free Mumia Movement. Fry that jagoff. And fuck Snoop and Jesse for Free The Leader of the Crips Movement.

11/23/2005 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/23/2005 04:50:31 PM

yes, clogged up lock-up with pimpy misdemeanor b.s. but the finger can't be pointed at them, it's the f'in bosses who have to impress each other during their numbers game. what a joke.

11/23/2005 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have thirty-four years on the job, I am thinking about retiteing next week, or should I stay ????

11/23/2005 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excuse me i mean retireing

11/23/2005 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous "20,000 volts" said...

Circle Tuesday, December 13 on your calendars.

After 24 years on San Quentin's Death Row, will Stanley "Tookie" Williams, the co-founder of the "Crips" street gang, finally take the 12:01 a.m. (PST) walk to the execution chamber? He was convicted of four robbery murders in L.A. County. The usual Hollywood ultralibs claim that "Tookie" has "reformed".

Bring back "Ol' Sparky", the gas chamber and hanging. Lethal injection should only be used for our terminally injured/ill beloved pets.
With the exception of Nebraska (electric chair), the other thirty-nine death penalty states now use lethal injection. Ten states have no death penalty whatsoever.

The Eighth Amendment notwithstanding, I'm all for having such scum drawn and quartered on pay per view midnight cable TV.

11/23/2005 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll get it write this time. I'll be RETIRING.

11/23/2005 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous spelling police said...

R-E-T-I-R-I-N-G is correct. However, you now must correct WRITE to RIGHT.

11/23/2005 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

20,000 volts:

Drop a zero, my man. 2,000 volts will do it. At 20,000 volts, all you'd have left is a pile of cinders on the chair. Be sure that both skull and calf electrodes are moistened with a saline solution and that the butt plug is securely in place. Otherwise, most of the condemned like to leave a final mess.

11/23/2005 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Missouri Protocol", widely used for execution by lethal injection, also requires the insertion of an anal plug.

11/23/2005 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retire, enjoy life, move far from Chicago...but before you leave give some young guy the best advice you have. Good Luck

11/23/2005 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when is the new dicks class coming I studied my ass off and even paid for the bernstein class to make it to 140ish. I know the class wont be big enough for me to make it but it will signal that the process is starting, work for a good sgt but the Captain is a handjob and I cant wait to move on

11/23/2005 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Advice for a young cop? Leave it all at work. Drink the best you can afford. Marry that girl that smiles and laughs alot, and has a cute ass. The mother is the daughter down the road TRUEDAT. There are way more good people who are very pro police than vice versa, I worked the same area for over thirty years, and there are areas that I never went into, they never called the police, black as a mother in laws heart, never called the police. You are the CHICAGO POLICE DEPATMENT act like it, say hello to people, use words like sir and mamm, then you are on a high ground. If they want to be assholes then, well you tried. Forget about this promotion crap, anyway the coolest thing you could be is a patrolman or a detective. If its money your looking for leave now. Laugh a lot you guys run this job, not the pols, not the bosses, and if a cop has a problem try to help him for the love of god. I personally knew nine cops in the honored star case. I know even more who took thier own lives. Rise above this hate boys and girls. My life on this job was wonderful. Right wife, right partner, right attitude. The steady paycheck, and a wagon load of fun. Peace to you all. P>S> never, never neglect your family and friends. BYE YAALL

11/23/2005 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spoken like a true gentleman.

11/23/2005 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could not have said it better myself

11/23/2005 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous almost 29 and a day said...

Regarding retirement

Usually my advice is to retire as soon as possible.

If you can stand it, try to make it until January 2006.

Then they will owe you 35 more days pay Furlo BFD PD etc

On 15 Jamuary your hours will be bought back at the new (2006) rate which is about a dollar an hour more than the 2005 rate.

This is significant if you have a large amount if time due accumulated.

Perhaps you want to work on Dr King Day to get 12 more hours and then on 17 Jan begin your old life as a civilian

I too shall be leaving with bittersweet memories on pretty much the same schedule

Thanks for your post about advise for the new guy

I hope you have a hundred thirty four years on pension

11/23/2005 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O'GRADY IN 023, 2ND WATCH, SUPPORTS FREEING MUMMIA. HE REALY BELIEVES THAT MUMMIA WAS FRAMED. THIS LIBERAL WACKO BUSH HATING FAGGOT CARRIES A GUN AND DRIVES IN A SQUAD CAR YET BELIEVES MUMMIA IS INNOCENT AND SHOULD BE FREED.

11/23/2005 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't we try something diffrent for Thanksgiving, liking keeping the posts positive for once.

11/23/2005 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DID YOU HEAR THAT THE 2ND WATCH CAPTAIN IN 020 MAKES HIS SGT.'S RIDE IN THE CAR W/ P.O.'S TO MAKE SURE THEY WORK? WHERE'S A PAR FORM AT?

11/23/2005 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey quit supporting a cop killer supporter you asshole..........

11/23/2005 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm leaving 009 and thinking about transfering to 005, good move ?

11/23/2005 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So...if California did have the electric chair....could we then refer to "Tookie" as the fried leader of the Crisps....??

11/23/2005 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the heads up about 020. I was thinking of transfering there. Who is the Captain?

11/23/2005 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

I shall have to come to the defense of my fellow comrade, Shady, in regards to the free Mummia movement. I have never seen him write anything to that effect, so give him a break.

Me, I think Mummia is as guilty as sin and hope he spends his whole life in prison. I stopped buying my favorite salad dressing, Newman's 2000 Island brand, after I found out he gives money to Mummia.

NO, this does not mean I am coming over to the right side. It just means I am for true justice.

I hope my boy, Shady, gives his opinion on this matter and proves to the right wingers that wish to tarnish his name that he is the police.

11/23/2005 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some time back, Vanity Fair or The New Yorker had a very good article about Mummia. It told how even his own brother, who was on the scene, won't come to his defense. The man should fry. After reading that article, I never bought Ben and Jerry's ice cream again.

Happy Thanksgiving and no stabbing your brother for the turkey leg.

11/23/2005 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh 6:00 pm and 6:14 pm, thanks for sharing.....

I knew something like that happened when you get zapped, but do they really put a plug in your butt?

11/23/2005 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The anal plug is standard procedure in executions. The condemned tend to defecate in a final act of defiance. If necessary, a lubricant is used for insertion.

11/23/2005 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When that RR police got shot, rumor has it,that the ER doc, who was a Gulf War vet told the brass that he should be dead and that we better get some quality ammo.

He'll probably get capped on the street by some thug who has better rounds than us. God's speed.....to the hereafter.

11/23/2005 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:10:25...question. Are you sure it's a last act of defiance or just a last act? I know I'd shit myself for lesser things.

11/23/2005 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Advice for a young cop? Leave it all at work. Drink the best you can afford. Marry that girl that smiles and laughs alot, and has a cute ass. The mother is the daughter down the road TRUEDAT. There are way more good people who are very pro police than vice versa, I worked the same area for over thirty years, and there are areas that I never went into, they never called the police, black as a mother in laws heart, never called the police.......

Nice post. But TRU still sux the big one!!!

11/24/2005 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's true, the E.R. doc told the R.R. copper's commanding officer that he needs to get new ammo for his guys so that next time it only takes one or two to put him down forever.

11/24/2005 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In addition to the anal plug, a catheter is inserted into the urethra of the penis while on the gurney. No messy post-mortem clean-up required. The lethal cocktail of sodium pentathol, pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride may also induce the release of both bowels and bladder.
After being pronounced dead, the decedent is promptly placed in a hearse for removal from the prison. The anal plug remains lodged for burial .

11/24/2005 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Sweet Baby Ray said...

Hey ass hole- Please tell me - TELL US- WHAT DO 016th district cops do when working.....NOTHING. Nothing, understand. The crime is here, the drug houses are here, the gangbangers and criminals drive thru this district eyeing victims...where are the hard working police? Sleeping , eating, dodging calls. Please stop defending the 016th district. If Cline put SOS, or TRU or some P.O.s/tact/gang P.O.s that were hard chargers- you would see real arrests-and shit heads in 016 arrested. DIPSHIT.

11/24/2005 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you

11/24/2005 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Morgan, Mumia, Tookie are all fucked in the after life. Regarless of what happens on earth they still have to face God.
Hes not some one I'd want to piss off.

11/24/2005 02:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/23/2005 09:09:56 PM
I worked in 009 from 87-97 & loved it! I know times have changed, but do your homework before you make that move! Good luck...

11/24/2005 04:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In addition to the anal plug, a catheter is inserted into the urethra of the penis while on the gurney. No messy post-mortem clean-up required. The lethal cocktail of sodium pentathol, pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride may also induce the release of both bowels and bladder.
After being pronounced dead, the decedent is promptly placed in a hearse for removal from the prison. The anal plug remains lodged for burial.

get a life creep.

11/24/2005 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous notahousemouse said...

Sweet Baby Ray said...
Hey ass hole- Please tell me - TELL US- WHAT DO 016th district cops do when working.....NOTHING. Nothing, understand. The crime is here, the drug houses are here, the gangbangers and criminals drive thru this district eyeing victims...where are the hard working police? Sleeping , eating, dodging calls. Please stop defending the 016th district. If Cline put SOS, or TRU or some P.O.s/tact/gang P.O.s that were hard chargers- you would see real arrests-and shit heads in 016 arrested. DIPSHIT.

Mr. Sweet Baby Ray,
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? You are putting every single cop in 016 in the same category. 016 isn't what it used to be in more ways than one. 016 is filled with tons of older officers that have more experience and knowledge than many districts. There are guys who came from 10-14-15-25-11-SOS-HBT-Narcotics-B&A-Intelligence etc.
You have a handful of assholes just like every other district. The only difference is there is too much ground to cover here. I can tell you that one beat in the 30 sector works their asses off on all 3 watches, volunteers for jobs, and knows their shit. It's a DOC beat, and it doesn't mean shit because the only car assigned there most times is the beat car. No SOS, No Gang team (they are in 25-15) No tact team (they are usually detailed out too) No TRU, No nothing. The end result, Burglaries are up over 200% from last year. Why you ask? Because that beat car spends over 50% of his day answering calls all over the district. It's that way on all watches. Manpower is so low, there are no rapids on days, 4-5 99 units on afternoons and midnights. Most days there are a few downed cars too. Know what happens when you have no rapids in a district that is over 30 square miles? Your backup is coming from another beat. Which means it could be 30 blocks away. What does that mean for the backup cars beat? It means NO POLICE PROTECTION. It means if someone calls the police there for a man with a gun, the car might be coming from the 20 sector, or god forbid the 10 sector. They might as well be coming from the south side because it takes so fucking long to get around this district even with blue lights. It sounds like the same thing goes on in other districts too but with the amount of ground to cover in 016 it's downright dangerous.
If you don't live here you might not get it. Going from Belmont and Cicero to 8700 Belmont is a long ass haul. Then take the assist at Central and Sunnyside, then from there back up 21 on Caldwell and Touhy. From there, How about 8600 on Catherine. Do you get my point here? I am not saying this happens all day every day but I am telling you I work in 016, and there are many days I think to myself. Does this dispatcher have a fucking clue how far that is? I never complain. I always go, but I do feel bad for the people on my beat because there isn't a day that I can cover every street and every alley. When I worked on the West Side, I used to do laps around my beat. Here, I can't cover it. I would love to, but calls for service take me off of it day after day after day after day. What happens when I am gone? Theft, Robbery, but mostly Burglary. Sad, I never feel like I acomplish anything. Most days I feel like a chicken without a head running from one end of the district to the other. Why do I work here? Because I worked on the West Side for 15 years and got tired of it. I am a worker, I know what I am doing, as do most of my co-workers. I now work in the district I live in. No more long ass commute. I don't even go home for lunch like I thought I would. Know why? It's too fucking far from my beat. Isn't that sad? I know many coppers here who don't for the same reasons. This district has gotten so much busier than it used to be. Yet the manpower has gone way down. Including the gang teams and sometimes the tact teams never being here.
Sweet Baby Ray where do you work? How much time do you have on the job? You must be one hell of a decorated cop to sit in judgement of others. If you live in 016 call your Alderman. Tell him we need better police service. Tell him we need more coverage. I wrote him a letter, and asked him to stop the CPD from sending MY beat car to the west side. Or stop downing it.
Please don't put us all in the same category. Because there are some of us here that actually care, and try to do our job the best we can with what we have.

Happy Thankgiving

11/24/2005 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sweet Baby Ray-- If things are so bad in 016 and you are such a super cop, then why don't you bid into 016 and show them how it's done rather than bitching about it on this board?

11/24/2005 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a housemouse-


Question- Do the supervisors in 016 ever step in and tell the dispatchers to hold non-priority jobs for the appropriate beat car? Are they actually allowing them to run cars from, as you say, Belmont and Cicero to 8700 W Belmont for calls that do not require an immediate Police response? I'm not ripping you guys,just wondering.

11/24/2005 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DOC is yet another tool used by the "tool" kline.

11/24/2005 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing that Cline is concerned about is the homicide rate, nothing more. He doesn't care about the "bullshit" armed robberies or burglaries in 16 or any other district. Maybe he figures that all of the off duty guys or the 200 pound bimbos, which is all that you see in 16, will pick up the slack while he strips the districts.

11/24/2005 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:09 9 District to 5th District??? dont think thats a good move......

11/24/2005 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Front row seat to the greatest show on earth. That's what police work is. Make it fun, you work for yourself, not the WC, not Cline, not Daley. 20 years of vauderville with a pension.

11/24/2005 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1631 of afternoons are filthy bithes that keep the inside of the squad car clean like thier roach infested apt's. These are the same bitches that stood on the corners of 014 waiting for coppers to drive by so they could fuck one. If they can't even keep thier car clean you think they give a shit about doing any work ? Who they need is the old Sgt ST NE.

11/24/2005 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 11/23/2005 04:12:20 PM "D.O.C. is just something that the districts use to justify the need to call in outside units. The "D.O.C." is used to cover the areas the the tact/gang teams can't or won't. Most district "D.O.C." areas are in the shittiest neighborhoods in said districts. These areas are picked by the "2-3 yr wonders that be", who sit in a office at H.Q. and read reports that are a few days old regarding incidents that occurred in the locations. They haven't got a clue"

I heard that they sit in front of a large map of the city and throw darts at it. Wherever the darts land are the borders of the DOC Areas. (That was a facetious comment)

For your information, yes, they do read reports, but they also communicate with the Beat, School, Tact, and Gang Officers, as well as the Dicks. They even do something that is unheard of.....they communicate with other Police Agencies!! That is how the DOC Area is chosen, and that only applies to the Level 2 DOC. The Level 1 DOC is chosen by each individual District.

There are coppers there with a wide range of seniority, but if you are so disgruntled about 2-3 year wonders doing that job, why don't you apply and see how well you do? I recently saw some postings for the DOC in the Daily Bulletin. Or are you going to continue to single handedly fight crime by chasing down Pookie and Ray Ray for one rock?

I have also heard coppers complain about all the copies they have to make for the DOC. The DOC never even sees those copies. Those are for the Area D/C so that they can present their weekly activity to the Superintendent. They have to have copies of the activity because lazy coppers will write down inaccurate numbers and not actually do shit on the street. Then when the numbers differ, who do you think takes the heat?

I know all this because I actually try to educate myself before I make a decision as to whether or not I should like a particular unit, etc. That is the way the "new" Police do things. We don't sit around and say "It's all bullshit" just because we don't understand.

11/24/2005 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someday young person you will become tho "OLD POLICE" then you will realize it is all bullshit.

11/24/2005 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He who has grown complacent in his position will reduce complexities to bullshit inorder to justify his position as a bullshit artist.

The definition of bureacracy is to be governed by rigid and ARBITRARY routine, and there we have it folks. G.Os are rigid and discretionary police powers are arbitrary. It takes all kinds of police making discretionary decisions to make up a department. From the FTO who teaches his PPO absolutly nothing to the Superintendent who makes decisions that are, at times, beyond the scope of the chasers of Pookey and Ray Ray.

Ultimately you do what you do, and it is what it is. The D.O.C. is a resource and if you understood how it worked, I mean really understood, you as a street cop could use it to your advantage to play a winning game of chess rather than the game of run after RAY RAY for one rock, possibly bust your ass, end up on IOD or in call back or worse(Unless you like that sort of thing)while Ray Ray plays rack up the CB #s.

But hey one man's bullshit is another man's fuel.

11/25/2005 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He who has grown complacent in his position will reduce complexities to bullshit inorder to justify his position as a bullshit artist."

Sometimes things ARE bullshit and it just takes awhile to figure it out. You can put perfume on a pig but it is still a pig.

Oh, and by the way the DOC areas are just a tacit admission from the Dept that we are low on manpower and cannot properly Police the city.

11/25/2005 03:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, thats incorrect. The DOC merely confirms that there are certain areas in each District or Area that require additional resources, thats all. I'm not a supporter of Phil Cline nor do I work on 35th St. but I do support the concept of the DOC. As I said before it just needs to be tweaked a little thats all. For instance, the DOC remains constant on all 3 watches.In the District that I work in, most of the violent crime however occurs on the 3rd and 1st watches, yet we man the DOC on the 2nd watch as though the problems on that watch are the same as the other two which they are not. So why are we wasting the resources that we have for an almost non-existent problem on the 2nd watch for problems that occur on the 3rd and 1st watch? The D/C should be allowed to change is DOC on the 2nd watch because the problems are different from the other 2.

I have advocated this concept for years but because I don't wear a white shirt, nobody would listen, Why should slower Districts like those in Area 3, have the same amount of Officers particularly Gang and Tac as Districts like 011,015 or 025 etc.? Do you really need Gang Teams in 018,019,020 or 023? Why not take those people that work in the slower Districts and send them to the Districts with higher crime rates? There really is no valid reason not to. With the DOC they now are.

11/25/2005 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous notahousemouse said...

Question- Do the supervisors in 016 ever step in and tell the dispatchers to hold non-priority jobs for the appropriate beat car? Are they actually allowing them to run cars from, as you say, Belmont and Cicero to 8700 W Belmont for calls that do not require an immediate Police response? I'm not ripping you guys,just wondering.


Nope, they can't. If they did, we would be at a no car all day. If you are the only car available in the sector or district for that matter you are going no matter how far it is.

With all the copper domestics, the supervisors are too busy on their own jobs to keep tabs on the dispatchers. If someone else is closer, they usually come up and take the assist. But sometimes you just can't finish the job your on any faster. God forbid when a few cars have arrests. It's a free for all.

I don't get lunch everyday. Sometimes it just too busy. Unless I start taking it at 0900.
Put the scanner on and listen if you don't believe me.

11/25/2005 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that some things are, indeed, bullshit. But, that doesn't change the fact that someone needs to constantly come up with some new strategy to fight crime.

Let's face it, the criminals are becoming "smarter" and are getting the know how the law and OPS work better each day. They constantly use those two things as weapons against us.

We, as police officers, cannot just continue to do things the same way, otherwise we will be worse off than we are now. We have to continually change our strategies so that we can make our best effort to combat crime. Will these strategies always work? Of course not. Is there ever going to be a perfect strategy? Hell no!!!

I'm not saying that I support everything Cline does, but he and/or the other powers that be, came up with a strategy and ran with it. That is what one would expect from a Superintendent. Does everyone like it? No. Is it perfect? No. I agree that the DOC needs some tweaking, but I think that it is a good concept.

11/25/2005 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

016 = pussies ( wrong )
11/23/2005 04:26:09 PM
016 = pussie ( right )
11/23/2005 04:26:09 PM
I'm leaving 009 and thinking about transfering to 005, good move ? (answer below)
11/23/2005 09:09:56 PM

screw, 9 &5 go to 16! and screw in 16! ( yeah, baby! )

11/25/2005 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/25/2005 09:29:51 AM

CB you da man!

11/25/2005 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where are the supervisors in 016? I'll tell you, on a good day we will have three sgt's. On third watch most of the time you will only have a ten and a fifty. Are there dogs in 016? yes,but there are dogs in every other district. Should the w/c remove these p.o.'s from thier beat car? yes, attend yor beat meeting complain about the lack of service you believe you are getting and write the d/c.Better yet,why dont you bid into 016 and come work? Is it because you youreself might have to do some work and not blow off the jobs like in the ghetto district you work in? To all the top cops in the cpd bid into 016 we're looking for a few good MEN, broads need not apply we have plenty of them!!!

11/25/2005 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

broads need not apply we have plenty of them!!!


Fuck you asshole. I am not a broad, I am a police officer just like you.

p.s. and I work

11/25/2005 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHICKS with Dicks.

11/25/2005 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And I guess some men without them. HA HA HA HA

Fuck you loser. Dare you to say that to my face.

11/25/2005 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

only because you wear that star that says police officer dont mean shit you are still useless, i'll bet you 90% of the men in blue rather not be partnered up with a female and the other 10% that do only want to get in your pants keep counting those tickets and logging those traffic accidents into the computers. like i said we have enough dont need anymore, sorry if your feelings were hurt but the next time i need a female for a search i'll request for you since you are a worker.

11/25/2005 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

023 dike tac on the blog be scared everyone!!!!

11/25/2005 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't we use O'Grady AKA Leftisthebest for anal butt plugs for all future executions. They will be right in their element. We all know they are BIG TIME SLALD TOSSERS.

11/25/2005 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY ELFTISTHE BEST AKA O'GRADY. DONT'T GO ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T SUPPORT MUMMIA FOR A RETRIAL AND THAT YOU HAVEN'T SAID THAT YOU BELIEVED HE WAS FRAMED. O'GRADY AKA LEFTISTHEBEST HAS SAID IT BEFORE MANY MANY TIMES THAT HE THINKS MUMMIA IF INNOCENT AND WAS FRAMED. I CHALLENGE YOU O'GRADY TO POST WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT. I KNOW IT IS BUT I WANT YOU TO POST IT HERE. WE WRE ALL WAITING.

11/25/2005 09:23:00 PM  
Blogger Shadi said...

Now, now- I make it a point not to take "disingenuous" "challenges" from ANONYMOUS COWARDS...
If you want to "dance with the devil in the pale moonlight"... you'll have to come out of the shadows and actually identify yourself. See you at work!

11/26/2005 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous for you (rickie to hickey dept.) said...

disingenuous |ˌdisinˈjenyoōəs|

adjective

not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.


DERIVATIVES disingenuously adverb disingenuousness noun

11/26/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous drs. freud & scheisse said...

"Hmmmn- "anal butt plugs", "executions", "SLALD TOSSERS"... sounds like you're sufferring from a bad case of what both Doctors Knorthyrne & Triumph the Comic Insult Dog have previously defined as COPROPHELIA: the desire to or watch others CRAP on other people (or yourself.)

Your ultimate punishment: BLINDNESS / Total sensory deprivation.

Your therapy: Say Seven Rosaries aloud and give yourself over wholly to the Lord Our Savior Jesus Christ

There is hope for you yet: you merely must apologize in person to those you have trespassed against. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

11/26/2005 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous triumph the insult dog said...

While I'm ashamed of some of my fellow canines who indulge in COPROPHAGIA, you must understand that with CPD bosses, coprophagia goes with the territory.

Anal plugs should be mandatory for all exempt personnel. They can't help themselves.

11/26/2005 10:24:00 PM  
Blogger BATHROOM WALL ? said...

Ah Jeez- I gotta COP'a'Plea here... my crappy suffixes all bollixed up! ;-) What is happening to my mind? Scheisse! Nice catch there good doktor! ;->

11/26/2005 11:03:00 PM  

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