Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Economic Growth Continues

Despite all reports from the main stream media and the democratic national committee, economic growth continued and economists are predicting a strong 3.6% growth in the American economy for 2005 and a 3.3% increase in 2006. Unemployment, already at 5.5% is predicted to drop to 5.1% for 2005 and to 5% in 2006. Last quarter marked something like a dozen or thirteen straight quaters of growth. That's 3 plus years lefty. During a war. And hurricanes. And high gas prices. Today's economy is trucking along and shows few signs of slowing.

71 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And how much is our next raise?

11/22/2005 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's negotiated in the contract. Go read it and stop pretending you work in the private sector.

11/22/2005 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous get real said...

Yeah, those 30,000 layoffs by GM are just great, eh?

11/22/2005 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Giving thanks to the Fed
The central bank indicated in minutes from its last meeting that it may be getting ready to pause.


Ref: Money.CNN.Com

11/22/2005 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

30,000 layoffs for a company that's been bleeding money for years and won't adapt to the global ecomony. Fuck em, the unions bled them dry and now they're out of work. nothing like killing your own job. Fools

11/22/2005 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 30,000 layoffs is like .001 percent of the work force. Not a big deal. The economy has created a couple million other jobs since then. Adapt or Die.

11/22/2005 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The economy has created a couple million other jobs since then. Adapt or Die.

11/22/2005 02:52:12 PM

Ah, yes. Two million more people learned to ask " do you want fries with that?"

11/22/2005 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nothing like killing your own job. Fools

11/22/2005 02:50:25 PM

Seems like some of the whiners here could learn from the above statement.

11/22/2005 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

How come, teacher you always call me out and not Shady? No mind, I'll gladly answer your query.

The president, I mean YOUR president, can account for part of that growth in programs for the poor which have been cut. He now proposes to cut $50 billion in aid to the poor.

Riddle me this, Batman. What will the national debt be when this fan of the ultra-rich leaves office? I pity the poor Democrat or Republican (hold my nose), or even Ralph Nader, who takes over from Dubba. They shall have to make hard decisions and correct the sins of this man.

The cost of rebuilding from the hurricane season hasn't even begun. Answer that one in a few years.

The economy is trucking along, as you put it, at the expense of the working class that carry the burden of the country.

You were right about one thing though SCC, high gas prices. The highest gas prices in the history of the country. If Hillary had been in office this year with these high prices the GOP would have her to the cross.

Nevertheless, SCC, I still hope you and the family have a nice Thanksgiving. I wish the same to all here, even those who hate me. Maybe I'll see some of you Thanksgiving morning as we help those less fortunate.

11/22/2005 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is every issue left v. right? Any fair analysis of the economy during President Bush’s administration would say the economy has remained stable. The numbers sighted in your post indicate the positives in our economy. And we should be grateful to this administration in their careful stewardship. The problem with the administration is the issues that are not being addressed. First, it is irresponsible to ask our military to be sacrificing life and limb over a national policy decision to go to war, and not ask the nation to make any sacrifice. If we send our military to war, we need to pay for it. We need to share in the sacrifice. We have hurricanes that have ravaged a large part of our country, and this administration and Congress have committed to rebuild. Again, a commitment and send the bill to the national credit card. The budget deficit is the largest it has ever been in our history. The employee benefits crisis has been ignored by the administration and the Congress. Health care provided as an employee benefit has put large corporations and state and municipal governments in a funding crisis. Any home, business, or government can feel good about itself by borrowing to pay its everyday bills. But we all know the day will come when the bills come due. We desperately need to change debate in our society. We have to stop left vs. right. We need to recognize our problems and gather the best ideas from citizens from any side of our political equation.

11/22/2005 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cut all the money given to the poor. Hey lefty....you ever make an arrest where your arrestee is living on SS for asthma and living in section 8 housing where he pays nothing to live??? What incentive does he have to work if you f-ing liberals give them everything??? Stuck on stupid!!!!

11/22/2005 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

To 3:34 poster:

"When the bills become due" as you wrote, who shall pay for them? It shall be the middle class, guys like you and me, and not the rich.

To 3:36 poster:

Yes, there are abuses in SSI, but I'd rather give money to deserving poor than to Halliburton.

Finally....while driving today I tuned into Rush, I cannot stomach him for more than 15 minutes at a time, but here's what he said. He spoke of being in a golf tourney down in Mexico last week. His compadres complained to him $200,000 per year in not enough to live on. When will you guys realize Rush is not for the working man.

11/22/2005 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought this thread was about the Bush Administration's handling of the economy. I suggest that if we eliminate section 8 and SSI for the unworthy we would still have the problems that we are ingnoring. The last line of defense in arguing over economic matters is assistance to the poor and the undeserving. I agree cut these programs, they only continue to feed a dependant class. That said, how do we pay for a war, a hurricane, and the employee benefit crisis?

11/22/2005 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5% umemployment, according to my economics class that means the economy is in a state of full employment. Also you can check the dept. of labor website and see were the job hires are. Last I checked Healthcare and financial institutions where most hires are. Dont forget technology as well.

11/22/2005 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
30,000 layoffs for a company that's been bleeding money for years and won't adapt to the global ecomony. Fuck em, the unions bled them dry and now they're out of work. nothing like killing your own job. Fools

11/22/2005 02:50:25 PM



I hope this did not come froma cop. You are a union member, to an extent, you scab.

11/22/2005 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 3:36 I'm neither left or rright, I'm for what is good for my family and country. Speaking for myself i beblieve GWB srewed things up pretty good.The only ones living on easy street and making a profit off the middle class are the big corperations and oil industry.

11/22/2005 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I thought this thread was about the Bush Administration's handling of the economy. I suggest that if we eliminate section 8 and SSI for the unworthy we would still have the problems that we are ingnoring. The last line of defense in arguing over economic matters is assistance to the poor and the undeserving. I agree cut these programs, they only continue to feed a dependant class. That said, how do we pay for a war, a hurricane, and the employee benefit crisis?

11/22/2005 04:30:02 PM

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Cut sec 8? Cut SSI? Sure pal. We wish. However, those peograms are bribes to people not to riot and go crazy. you take away their money and they wouldn't know what to do other than start burning this country down like Paris.

The working poor and middle class (us!!!!! me and you!!!!!) eats shit and gets nothing and likes it.

I wish I was rich, I'd be the best Republican!

11/22/2005 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Besides, this whole thing is obviously a liberal hoax, since the Bush administration keeps telling us that the economy is better than ever. I mean, it simply isn't possible for GM to be laying off 30,000 people in a terrific economy, right? What sense would THAT make? It's clearly a hoax to make the President look bad.

11/22/2005 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Shadi said...

The answer is simple Lefty- when S.C.C. wants a reasoned, thoughtful response- you're the liberal of choice. I'm just "left"overs, the raging beast in the cage to have a few chuckles taunting... but hey- even this jester knows that our current emperor has no clothes!
As for the economy- kudos to the Bushmen for righting the money cart. It's just a shame that monetary gains always seems to come from dropping bombs on somebody. "PAX" ROMANA! Praise Wall Street and Pass the Ammunition!

11/22/2005 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of "matters domestic"
(no, not a "1-Frank-Paul" code-breath!)

Tonight's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" Survey:

"Which of these pressing issues do you believe should be the first priority for our lawmakers"?

BROKEN BORDERS
*************** 51%
EDUCATION CRISIS
**** 12%
MANUFACTURING JOB LOSSES
*********** 35%
THREAT OF TERRORISM
** 2%

(of 2135 votes at 18:22 hrs.)

What do YOU think- DO S.C.C.'s Economic Numbers portend smooth sailing ahead- or are the "Chicken Little" Bush-bashing Lib's right to cry wolf about the coming crises around the corner?

Vote at WWW.LOUDOBBS.COM

11/22/2005 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not a lefty, but I think W is a moron. He has us in a greater natioal debt than all the other Presidents COMBINED! Do you really want to be owned by a Chinese bank?He ain't done yet either. We need a true conservative in office, not a pawn of Big $ corps.

11/22/2005 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the reasons, I think, that "broken borders" comes out so high on Lou Dobbs' survey, is that the borders issue is so high on his personal agenda, and he repeats it almost every chance he gets. It may or may not be an important issue "nationwide" (not discounting Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas, mind you), but who the hell cares what Lou Dobbs thinks? His opinion counts for ONE...just like Daley, Stroger, Kerry, Cline, Obama, Clinton, Bush, etc......

11/22/2005 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, there are abuses in SSI, but I'd rather give money to deserving poor than to Halliburton
Leftisbest you are a real tool with white guilt! I have seen turd birds out thee that are 18 getting ssi for bad eyes......white kids get glasses blacks get a check for 600.00. Thats why there is no ssi for the older folks that want and need it.
Your not a cop. If you were you would see these abuses first hand.

11/22/2005 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:41 Leftis best is your typical insulated liberal. He works in 023 for Chrissake, he don't see this shit. Liberal's make great victims.

11/22/2005 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lefty...its easy to hide behind Halliburton allegations and all the other nonsense that flows from the liberal left....but what is the democrats plan???? Show me a plan from the democrats.....your fearless leader Howard Dean was pressed on what the democrats are going to due and he didnt have a response...because he doesn't have one....all he could say was you'll see in 2006. That's because there is no plan!!!!Those of you who think the democratic party is for the working class are too far removed from reality...their voting base is those who collect the bullshit SSI checks....

11/22/2005 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Channel 11 the other night a program about the relocation of Robert Taylor people. The sista is pissed because she only paid 12 dollars a month in Taylor and now to have decent housing under section 8 she has to pay much more than $12.00 a month for housing.

11/22/2005 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:13 is correct. There is no plan. Neither political party has come up with a plan to pay for the war, to pay for hurricane relief, to reduce our deficit. Both sides have come up with excellent debating points on where the other side lacks. According to the right the left are skirt wearing cowards who secretly hate America, want to eliminate the defense budget to pay for more welfare programs. According to the left the right are crazy war mongering racists. When will this end? If we could ever get rational debate on public policy we may come to reasonable solutions. All the big issues of our time deserve better than a tired left vs. right debate.

11/22/2005 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOLLOW-UP: "The Green River Killer"

A hiker just found a human skull in a heavily wooded area near the Green River. It was apparently "relocated" by foraging animals. Dental records identified it as the skull of Tracy Winston, then 19, last seen on the SeaTac "ho stroll" over 22 years ago. Gary Leon Ridgway, the most prolific known serial murderer in U.S. history, is currently serving just 48 consecutive life sentences at the Washington State Penitentiary at Walla Walla. As you may recall, Ridgway already "cut a deal" with prosecutors to escape the needle.

11/22/2005 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Chicago, when it comes to CHA tenants going to traditional housing, it is not Section 8. That is a generic term for government funded housing. The proper term is CHAC. The Chicago Housing Authority's Housing Choice Voucher Program or CHAC. A private corporation oversees government funds while placing former CHA Tenants into traditional rental properties in each and every neighborhood. It is in essence a new model for public housing in Chicago and nationwide. It is another social experiment done by Democrats in the waning days of the Clinton presidency.

Read for yourself. www.chacinc.com

The tenants are trained on Chicago's Landlord Tenant Ordinance (A city ordinance set up in the tenants favor I may add.) and how to screw the landlord at each and every turn. I've been through the CHAC Tenant training and couldn't believe my ears.
Part of this new style of public housing also creats homeownership possibilities for the former CHA tenant. In essence if you become part of their 5 year program, and save a little bit of money, CHAC will help you buy a house. CHAC will supplement your downpayment, get you a competitive mortgage, and negotiate the deal for you. Don't worry about making the payments either. Those are supplemented by CHAC as well.

Now Lefty, tell me again how the middle class is getting screwed by the rich republicans.

11/22/2005 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to go off topic but I just saw on the news that that asshole railroad cop who shot those two TRU coppers in ten about nine months ago just got bailed out. Turns out an anonymous citizen "heard the cries and felt the pain" of the suspect's family, so he/she put up almost $200,000 so he could be home for the holidays. What about the two coppers who got shot? I guess their and their families feelings don't count. To the person who put up the bail for the attempted cop killer, I hope someone you love gets shot and have to live through a painful recovery. I'll personally rally to get the bail money for the shooter. Happy holidays, Asshole.

11/22/2005 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous funny database said...

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11/22/2005 11:04:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

You walked into another one Lefty - when adjusted for inflation, gas prices are lower now than they were in 1980 at the end of the Carter administration. Go figure that one out. And gas prices are falling - down over 25 cents a gallon in the past two weeks and oil per barrel is down to it's lowest in 4 months and dropping. AND the economy still chugs along.

11/23/2005 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

Wow, SCC, gas prices are down 25 cents, after they hit the highest in the history of this country. Do we have the president to thank for that? I doubt it. We can however thank him for allowing the oil industry to do almost anything that want without interference.

Also, the inflation index used today is NOT the same as used during the Carter administration. Do you actually think your family's income is going farther than when you were raised by your parents? Come on, think about it.

To 7:13 poster:

I think the Democrats care more about the working man than the GOP, but just about all politicians are in it for what they can benefit. It's all class warfare, man, and until the working class realizes this the USA shall continue to be operated by the ultra rich that control almost everything.

11/23/2005 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous 016 come the fuck on..... said...

three armed robberies in 016 last night? good work cunt pos in 016 once again.....

11/23/2005 02:51:00 AM  
Blogger alice said...

SSI and Section 8 disgust me. The fact that programs exist that pay people to babysit THEIR OWN KIDS is repugnant. That which was once a "help out" became a "hand out" and is now a "way of life". At best it is a political tool used to maintain democratic control of urban areas. It is a bribe to keep the lazy, stupid, and addicted (and yes, those who had a rough life) from rioting. I must defer to Darwin. End it now, and let the rioting begin.
Shoot true, brothers (injuries cost us in medical bills, deaths don't). Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition!

11/23/2005 04:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lefty I think you completely missed my point. I do agree with you that this a class war. A war of the "haves" and "have nots" so to say. The haves in this case are getting everything handed to them. They can in effect get 15 years of mortgage payments made for them by taking on a $5/hour full-time job.( http://www.chacinc.com/home-ownership.asp ) Not much else is expected of the people in these programs. No expectations needed for folks who contribute nothing but yet receive a majority of the services.

In the meantime, middle class folks such as myself need to supplement our incomes by taking on second and sometimes even third jobs just to make ends meet or pay a college education for our children.

Who pays for these programs? The middle class, plain and simple. Not the uber rich or the poor. It's you and I footing the bill for another FDR-like social experiment gone overboard.

The things I keep asking myself are "Why didn't anyone kiss me?" and Where's my reach-around?" It's the least that could have been done.

11/23/2005 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two politicians are walking down the street. One Democrat, one Republican. A "residentially challenged American" approaches them and asks for money. The Republican looks at the person and asks questions concerning his condition, then proceeds to take money out of his own pocket and gives it to the person. The Democrat sees this, bites his lower lip, and tells the person he feels their pain. The Democrat then reaches into the Republicans pocket and gives that person the rest.

11/23/2005 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now we're were to blame for armed robberies, cause ifvwe are i want my cut of the loot? you idiot!

11/23/2005 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladies if any r chimeing in and gents. Don't be so stupid as to even to debate this crap!! Neither side cares anything about us!!! As a few truly enlightened bloggers stated, neither side has done shit for us and won't. Why??? They don't want to. They have set up cushions for themselves and will sell us out to the best offer when the time comes. That is both sides, not one or the other. They can bash the shit out of each other but not tell us what they've done.

Its funny that people on this blog will blast each other and every boss and unit in the dept. Wheres's the vicious bashing of the Coward Cheney!!! Arrogant Ass Rumsfeld!! Manchurian Pres Bush!!! Communist Hillary!!! Eyes closed to white collar crime and player Bill Clinton!!! I'm for the poor but I own 10% of the country Kerry!!!The list goes on and on.

We truly deserve each other on this dept. How can anybody stick up for any these assholes??? We should all be appalled that GM is laying off 30,000 workers!! I can guarentee after the dust settles the adiministrative talent will get nice bonuses for fuck a job well done to the common man. No kiss, no lube, no protection.

Now, go cry that the FOP has done nothing and we didn't get a big enough raise (I know people who haven't gotten a raise in 5 years). We pay to much for health care(we pay nothing compared to the private sector). I did't get my free coffee and newspaper and they gave me a job out of rollcall.

The GM workers losing their jobs won't be crying about working to hard anymore. They will be begging to work harder to keep their jobs!!! Something every copper should be thinking about. The left and right pals that your sticking up for won't be thinking about it. They will be hoping the stock they have in GM goes up after this.

11/23/2005 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Yes, there are abuses in SSI, but I'd rather give money to deserving poor than to Halliburton
Leftisbest you are a real tool with white guilt! I have seen turd birds out thee that are 18 getting ssi for bad eyes......white kids get glasses blacks get a check for 600.00. Thats why there is no ssi for the older folks that want and need it.
Your not a cop. If you were you would see these abuses first hand.

11/22/2005 06:41:52 PM



Why havnt your oh so great and rigtheous Republicans stopped it yet then? You're so proud of who and what you vote for, why havent they come to your rescue yet??

11/23/2005 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

public housing in Chicago and nationwide. It is another social experiment done by Democrats in the waning days of the Clinton presidency.




Here we go again! In 2055, you guys will still be blaiming Clinton for SOMETHING.

Again, WHERE IS BUSH??? Whay hasnt he stopped these injustices yet?? You voted for him right? He should come down from the sky or walk across Lake Michigan and put the e-brake on this stuff for YOU.

11/23/2005 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 0230 poster, I have a contract book in front of me as i've had one since the inception of the FOP as our bargaining agent. It's the weakest piece of shit we have ever had. We lost ground on every contract since the first one (ok the second one). The original contract was strong. Whenever a grievance came up, we won almost every one bacause the city did'nt have a clue about contract language. This was the contract that Marv Gittler wrote (a professional that we hired). On the second (or third) contract, the FOP did not want to spend the money for a professional (they thought they could do it better thenselves) and we suffered. By then the city was getting better lawyers to write their proposals, and we were slowly giving up small points to benefit the majority of the union. The first contract was adopted in August 1981. Read that one, then read the new one and you'll find loads of stuff that has disappeared. So mister know it all, BLOW it out your ASS.

11/23/2005 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1;48,

I'm calling it the way it is. When this program was initiated in 99' it was signed into law by Pres. Cumstain. The funding is there until 2010 at the least.
Let's say that Bush was to stop these pork programs designed to enslave the urban poor. You and your liberal guilted ilk would be crying foul and stating the "Bush hates blacks" line for eternity.

Live with the fact that Bill Cinton did more damage to the middle class than FDR, Johnson and Carter combined. Over taxing the working man to pay for failed social programs that only benefitted the private contractor.
Thank them all for the social security fiasco. The most easily abused program in governmental history.
Thank them for the housing projects that kept the poor in prison like conditions for the last half century creating the current mind set of our urban poor.
Thank them for the crumbling infrastructure of our highways and public spaces.
Thank them for double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, the loss of the American steel industry, the weakened American Labor Unions and countless other overspent,overtaxed abuses heaped upon the backs of the middle class working man.

The only thing I ever got from a Democrat was a bill for getting screwed.

11/23/2005 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Id like to know what union we as CPD have. FOP is a bargaining mayor daley controlled bunch a goofs.


Anonymous said...
30,000 layoffs for a company that's been bleeding money for years and won't adapt to the global ecomony. Fuck em, the unions bled them dry and now they're out of work. nothing like killing your own job. Fools

11/22/2005 02:50:25 PM



I hope this did not come froma cop. You are a union member, to an extent, you scab.

11/22/2005 05:03:39 PM

11/23/2005 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we would all stick together we would be just fine. Everybody go down on TVB's. Cause grid lock. Let the boars fill and back logs begin. But kno.....we have to cut our own throats like idiots.

11/23/2005 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Clinton invented all of Sec 8 from it's beginings? Don't be so foolish.

The Republicans (WH, Cong, now SCt) have had at most 4 years to do away with it. They will have 8 total (more when Jeb runs) to kill it. They have the votes in the Cong. They can do it. Yet they have not and they will not. So who's worse? Clinton for "inventing" it, or the Repubs, who know it's wrong and continue to let it happen.

I've never even heard the words "welfare reform" come out of the neocon's mouths in the last 4 years! Shame on them! You can blame Clinton for what happened, but we can only blame Bush for what's going on now.

Seeing the shit I see on the street I cannot be a liberal.

Stopped a 18 y/o drug dealer on Rosse / Independ and he has (3) $100 bills folded up next to his LINK card! What kind of BS is this? Here's the dialog:

ME: Whose (3) $100 bills are these?

JOE: Mine.

ME: Ok, whose LINK card is this?

JOE: That's mine, too.

ME: So you have $300, right?

JOE: Ya.

ME: So you don't need the LINK card then, huh?

JOE: Sure I do. They put money on there!

There you have it. The sense of entitlement. You want to blame Clinton for everything, fine, ok. I'll help you.

CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!CLINTON!!

Ok, are we done yet?

But where is Bush? He should be cutting this BS off. The Repub Cong should be passing through new bills. The Conserv SCt should rule all of CLINTON!!'s crap unconstitutional. But they aren't.

You've been left high and dry by your own people this time.

11/23/2005 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Id like to know what union we as CPD have. FOP is a bargaining mayor daley controlled bunch a goofs.


Anonymous said...
30,000 layoffs for a company that's been bleeding money for years and won't adapt to the global ecomony. Fuck em, the unions bled them dry and now they're out of work. nothing like killing your own job. Fools

11/22/2005 02:50:25 PM



I hope this did not come froma cop. You are a union member, to an extent, you scab.

11/22/2005 05:03:39 PM

11/23/2005 03:47:58 PM

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If you read what I wrote, I purposfully included the phrase "to an extent" knowing that someone would object. Yes, I know the FOP is not a union, but it is as close to it has we can have.

11/23/2005 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Working Class Hero
by John Lennon
As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and class less and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

11/23/2005 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster who told me to blow it out my ass, get a clue. Go to the closest office building in your neighborhood and ask the employees how much they pay for health insurance each month? When they say $300 dollars or more just for themself and not the rest of the family, then tell me who knows it all.

Next go to a police dept that doesn't have the FOP as their bargaining unit. See how their grievance procedure works. I know how it works as I have friends in depts without FOP. U either take the suspension thats given to you or take 30 days for daring to stand up to the chief of police in that town.

U r correct that we lose something in each contract. U r correct that we pay enough union dues to always have a professional negotiate our contract. That being said r u two years old and have to win every single point from the city? U admitted yourself the city wasn't on to the FOP when we first got them. The city didn't hand us our ass in the last contract and you should be thankful. The union members of GM aern't feeling to good right now. That was my point in the first place. A veteran officer of over 24 years if you were on the job in 1981 since you have the contract book in front of you should know better.

U can make comments about posts and still be professional. I could make a disrespectful comment about you but I won't. Police Officers should be professinal until its time not to be. I don't know you or anything about you. Therefore have a good day and have a Happy Thanksgiving.

11/23/2005 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am fortunate enough to have family on the job who never had a union until FOP. We do have it alot better now then they did with no union. That being said.....we need to stand our ground and progress.....not lose the things the original union fought for.....we have given the city too much back in recent years.

11/23/2005 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....I wonder how furlo picks would go if there was no union?

11/23/2005 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous almost 29 and a day said...

to 0232

you are absolutely right on all counts

11/23/2005 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY LEFTISTHEBEST, I MEAN SHADY AKA O'GRADY AKA SHADENFRUEDEN DO YOU KEEP YOUR TAX RETURN OR DO YOU SEND IT TO THE HOMELESS OR SOME CHARITY? YOU ARE FREE TO DONATE IT TO THE KATRINA PEOPLE OR THE FREE MUMMIA FUND. HAVE A NICE THANKSGIVING , I HOPE YOU CHOKE TO DEATH ON THE WISH BONE.:)

11/23/2005 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

Listen, buddy, for about the 250th time, Shady and Lefty are two different people. You continously post we are the same when in affect we are not. Hard to believe there are two TRUE LEFTISTS on CPD, huh?

Yes, I contribute to ther needy on a regular basis, but if I were to list some I think you'd choke on your wishbone. None of them were to the Mummia movement.

11/23/2005 09:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wesley Cook, alias Mumia Abu-Jamal, is a piece of shit cop killer. Burn in Hell.

God bless the late Officer Danny Faulkner, Philadelphia PD.

11/23/2005 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous LABOR said...

THE FOP IS NOT A UNION, WAS NEVER A UNION AND WILL NEVER BE A UNION!!!

DUMP THE FOP AND LETS GET US A UNION!!!

11/23/2005 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Working Man said...

Why should BUSH give a FUCK about helping the poor in Chicago or any place else? The poor don't even try to help themself. All I ever hear is give it to me, you owe it to me and give me more.

I worked many jobs that paid nothing sometimes several at a time to make ends meet. No one ever gave me shit.

Put down your 40 oz. and crack pipe and go get a FUCKEN JOB!!!

11/23/2005 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i too have worked multiple jobs for many years and am discusted by the entitlement mentality so often displayed by these professional victims of life who frequently turn to crime - no doubt out of frustration. the answer is to educate the general population who will then straighten out the polititions who will give us the mandate to sort out the shit heads who refuse to lead relativly honest and productive lives.

11/24/2005 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About Lefty and Shady

They are two people. I don't agree with most of what Lefty says but at least he sounds sane (albiet misguided in my opinion) and apparently has done some policework in his life. On the other hand, Shady sounds like a twit who looks down on the police and has never done any policework himself. His arrogance is apparent when he thinks we need him to add or link to definitions of the words he uses in his posts. No wonder he's medicated. He is in a profession he loathes with co-workers he despises. Perhaps they should have let him quit when he wanted to.

11/24/2005 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our tax dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars are wasted on the homeless and poor. And daley as well as the liberals just keep spoon feeding them. However, they sure are pushing them out of"their" neighborhoods arent they?

Why do scum families get to live on my block for free and I have to pay taxes. please explain this to me.

11/24/2005 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

November 23, 2005 06:12 PM ET

US jobless tally higher than expected

All Financial Times News

US initial jobless claims rose by 30,000 in the week ending November 19 from the prior week, according to figures released by the Labor Department.

11/24/2005 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes but the U.S. jobless rate does not include those who do not want to work, have never worked and will never work. This because I pay 30% in taxes which is given to them for doing and contributing absolutly nothing.

What ever happend to wellfare reform? Remember is was only to be availible for two years and then you on your own.

11/24/2005 11:40:00 PM  
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11/25/2005 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Growing economy my ass!

I have to pay over $11,000 in tuition to keep my kid out of Chicago Public School failure factories. Neither the parocial or public schools will cut you a break for being a city employee.

My family medical costs will increase greatly thanks to Richie Daley and his benefit cuts. I wonder what medial plans he and the other politicans get as their fringe.

Any my mortgage will cost an additional $600 a year thanks to increased property taxes.

As a member of the hard working middle-class, this economy sucks!

11/25/2005 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Growing economy my ass!

I have to pay over $11,000 in tuition to keep my kid out of Chicago Public School failure factories. Neither the parocial or public schools will cut you a break for being a city employee.

My family medical costs will increase greatly thanks to Richie Daley and his benefit cuts. I wonder what medial plans he and the other politicans get as their fringe.

Any my mortgage will cost an additional $600 a year thanks to increased property taxes.

As a member of the hard working middle-class, this economy sucks!

11/25/2005 02:16:22 AM

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Mortgage?? At east you have a house! Sure, $530,000 for a 75 yr old RANCH on the NW side.

GREAT economy!!!

11/25/2005 03:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The economy is getting better all the time. We're adding new jobs! So what if most of those jobs are fast food and retail near minimum wage, but hey, it'll all work out in the end I'm sure. That's what we call "working it out differently." And if Wal Mart doesn't pay enough, you can always join the glorious imperial legions and help make the world safe for race to the bottom capitalism by dropping bombs on innocent civilians.

11/25/2005 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm calling it the way it is. When this program was initiated in 99' it was signed into law by Pres. Cumstain. The funding is there until 2010 at the least.

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Too bad it was a REPUBLICAN majority in the US House that year that passed the law.

1995-2003 104th-107th Richard K. "Dick" Armey Republican Texas

YOUR people shouldn't have let Clinton even come close to signing it into law.

11/25/2005 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reality is that the United States is positively awash in a tsunami of imported merchandise of every conceivable description. How could it be otherwise as the captains of American industry destroy the country from within, ransacking the economy, plundering entire industries and communities as they loot the productive base of the country for their own personal enrichment, without the slightest thought for the well-being of anyone else at all. Under those conditions, as the psychopaths and sociopaths in the American government and in high finance and Fortune 500 board rooms and executive suites liquidate the country from under our feet, how could it be any different?

Their behavior is like that of madmen and mad women who heat the house in the cruel depths of a bone-chilling Siberian winter by stripping the insulation out of the walls and using it to stoke the furnace! As the flames leap higher they strip the shingles and plywood off the roof and fling them into the furnace!! As a death-numbing deep freeze descends on the home they fling back the blankets from the beds, rip the paneling off of the walls, tear up the floor boards and take an axe to the furniture and feed it all to the devouring flames in the furnace.

In the end all that remains are their shrill, demented cries of pyromanic glee, and the roaring flames of the furnace as they demolish the last vestiges of their home and dance around the last flickering embers as the last flames gutter feebly out, and the savage darkness and deadly cold of the Arctic winter descend on the remains of the homestead gutted and destroyed by their deranged insanity.

11/25/2005 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU ARE RIGHT. O'GRADY AKA LEFTISTHEBEST AKA SHADY AKA SHADENFREUDEN LOATH BEING THE PLICE AND WHAT WE STAND FOR.

11/25/2005 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think capitalism works a lot better than anything else out there, but there's a point where greed takes over. Here's something to chew on...United Airlines declares bankruptcy and states that they have to be able to "restructure" employee pensions and health benefits in order to be able to compete in today's market.
GM lays off 30,000 workers and makes plans to close numerous plants. Ford is rumored to be following suit soon. Reason: Two of the "Big Three" are no longer able to hold their share of today's market because of employee pensions and health care benefits. Let's not forget DaimlerChrysler, the other "American" car maker who emerged from a previous government sponsored bailout because it couldn't compete in the current market. Do you think Chrysler workers made concessions?
Finally, there's the once flourishing US steel industry which basically dried up because it couldn't compete due to the costs of pensions and other employee benefits.
My point here is that it is no coincidence that all of these industries are being systematically stripped of traditional worker benefits. At what point does this get around to governmental workers like us? Take care of your finances, stay informed and stay together. Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before they start messing with our benefits (besides health care).

11/25/2005 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They already are! Some IL state pensions are not being funded this year. "In order to fill other holes in the budget."

11/26/2005 02:13:00 PM  

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