Make Work (Call FOP)
Remember a day or three ago, we had a letter from Mark Brown of the Sun-Times asking if having the Marine Unit do contact cards on fishermen was "make work?" We explained that as the Marine Unit was responsible for watching the lakefront, checking for violations and conducting "high visibility" type patrols in a heightened Terror Alert status, it didn't really make sense to label what they were doing as "make work."
However, if what we are reading in the comments section of yesterday's Quick Hits is true, we think that Inspector's are DEFINITELY guilty of "making work." In our opinion, if an Inspector wrote up someone for not having a Daily Bulletin with them on the street, that is about the pimpiest write up imaginable. We cannot recall any General, Special, Administrative Order or Department Notice covering such an event. We cannot recall any Admin Fax requiring this.
It sure sounds like some wise ass legal eagle is deciding to liberally interpret a few of the Rules & Regulations and create job requirements out of whole cloth down at Auditing & Internal Control while Harold is out flying helicopters. We're just wondering who's the new CO of the "Destroying Morale" Division down at 35th Street. We're also wondering how low could the Inspectors go to get their movers. Got a story? Post it here.
And DON'T sign off on any SPAR or Write-up for this charge. Make the FOP earn their money. APPEAL IT.
However, if what we are reading in the comments section of yesterday's Quick Hits is true, we think that Inspector's are DEFINITELY guilty of "making work." In our opinion, if an Inspector wrote up someone for not having a Daily Bulletin with them on the street, that is about the pimpiest write up imaginable. We cannot recall any General, Special, Administrative Order or Department Notice covering such an event. We cannot recall any Admin Fax requiring this.
It sure sounds like some wise ass legal eagle is deciding to liberally interpret a few of the Rules & Regulations and create job requirements out of whole cloth down at Auditing & Internal Control while Harold is out flying helicopters. We're just wondering who's the new CO of the "Destroying Morale" Division down at 35th Street. We're also wondering how low could the Inspectors go to get their movers. Got a story? Post it here.
And DON'T sign off on any SPAR or Write-up for this charge. Make the FOP earn their money. APPEAL IT.
posted by SCC at 9:41 AM
58 Comments:
Check your C.O. Book, it came down from an exempt meeting last week.
Someone got written up for seatbelt violation. Problem is the squad was parked on the street and the P/O's were doing paper. Wasn't there an exemption in the ILCS about that?
on a holiday in may, an inspector came to roll call and wrote up 48 out of 60 men. inicluding the w/c.
...the fucker wrote up a po for not having his belt buckle shined
co book, whatever.....until it's a G.O. / S.O. / or other official directive they can bite me...
There is no hierarchy of directives. All carry the same weight. Whether they are verbal, in the C.O. book, on a fax or in a General Order or Special Order. You are expected to follow them. If that isn't to your liking, you can always go back to operating that elevator or working the shoe Department at K-Mart.
At least the elevator had a manual. This job is filled with verbal directives and entries in the C.O. book that nobody enforces or can remember where they came from 2 months later. Ask a boss and the answer is, "We're not doing that anymore". Not all of us fixed elevators "Company Man". Some of us left jobs that paid well because we wanted something more than a big check. I did expect a tiny amount of professionalism from the management of this department. Thank God interaction with them is minimal compared to most occupations. There's an old saying in management, "Don't make rules you can't enforce." No successful organization excels because of a my way or the highway attitude. Why don't you take your "Company Man" attitude and shove it up your ass.
You don’t like it. Go find another job you dumb ass, cock sucking, do nothing, know it all, dumb-ass can't pass a promotianl exam, piece of shit.
You're so eloquent and articulate.
Fuck you!
Hey fellow blue shirt dont stoop to white shirts level. you know how he got his white shirt, it was given to him, he didnt earn it.
you know how he got the house he lives in, his mommy and daddy gave it to him. he has not worked for anything in his life and now that he has a white shirt he thinks someone is listening.
hes a coward so dont stoop to his level. probably never did an ounce of police work in his career and never will.
just another sorry excuse for a human being who got promoted and now looks to make work for the working police.
hes at home, cant bang his wife because she wants nothing to do with him, cant play with the dog because the dog wants nothing to do with him, cant play with his kids because they want nothing to do with him.
he is a loser and is going nowhere fast. just like the majority of upper management on this department.
ooo my god well said your mother well said
SENIORITY REQUIRED FOR SUCCESSFUL WATCH SELECTION BY DISTRICT AND WATCH (Year of Appt. in BOLDFACE)
DIST./WATCH
1981 019/2
1986 003/2
1988 022/2
1989 018/2
1991 016/2, 020/2
1992 002/2
1993 006/2, 001/2, 003/1,006/1, 013/2
1994 012/2, 017/2, 019/1, 024/2, 002/1, 004/2, 005/1.
1995 021/2, 009/2, 025/2, 023/2, 007/2
1996 014/2, 008/2, 009/1, 005/2,
1997 010/2, 023/3
1998 023/1, 003/3, 020/3, 016/3, 019/3, 016/1
1999 011/2, 020/1, 012/1, 013/3, 018/3, 021/3.
2000 002/3, 022/3, 017/3, 001/3, 018/1, 015/2, 012/3, 025/3.
2001 024/3, 007/3, 008/3, 021/1, 013/1, 004/3, 015/3, 010/3.
2002 001/1, 007/1, 017/1, 014/3, 024/1, 022/1, 011/3, 004/1, 005/3, 009/3, 014/1, 010/1, 006/3, 008/1, 011/1, 025/1.
2003 015/1
11/20/2005 10:37:31 AM
yeah ok asshole
Auditing & Internal Control #1 Pimp: Inspector Silava (Salava? Selava? My apology for the improper spelling. I should know how to spell his name since I've seen it on so many pimpy inspector observation reports). Was this guy ever the police? He sure doesn't act like it.
I'm curious. Do the Inspectors actually work an eight hour day? I doubt it. To whom are they accountable? Someone should follow the followers and note the ghost payrolling they are getting away with. Taxpayers are definitely not getting their money's worth with these do-nothings.
On the other hand, I tip my hat to Inspector Morado, a gentleman who is still the police and uses common sense in enforcing Department rules. Keep up the good work.
YOU KEEP TELLING US ON WHAT A PRICK (SILAVA??) IS,AND IT ONLY MAKES HIM LOOK BETTER TO THE CLOWNS AT 35TH ST.
Anonymous said...
YOU KEEP TELLING US ON WHAT A PRICK (SILAVA??) IS,AND IT ONLY MAKES HIM LOOK BETTER TO THE CLOWNS AT 35TH ST.
11/20/2005 04:16:59 PM
Hey is this Silava guy one of those HDO Mexicans
I'm curious. Do the Inspectors actually work an eight hour day? I doubt it. To whom are they accountable? Someone should follow the followers and note the ghost payrolling they are getting away with. Taxpayers are definitely not getting their money's worth with these do-nothings.
On the other hand, I tip my hat to Inspector Morado, a gentleman who is still the police and uses common sense in enforcing Department rules. Keep up the good work.
11/20/2005 02:03:16 PM
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Shhhhhh! It's better that they stay home. We dont want them on the street, unless they are going to handle a call for service.....
you know how he got the house he lives in, his mommy and daddy gave it to him. he has not worked for anything in his life and now that he has a white shirt he thinks someone is listening.
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Hey! calm down he had to atleast pass the pass/fail portion! Well, he might have had the answers........
11/20/2005 12:39:21 PM
I think you were responding to my post "Company man". For your info I do wear a white shirt and I've been promoted of the a list twice. That doesn't make the shit that goes on any less palatable to me. There are three kinds of bosses.
1) Believes it his job to help the workers do their job. He shields them from as much bullshit as possible and gives them a benny when he can. He praises in public and reprimands in private. And when he's busting your balls it means your doing a good job.
2) Doesn't give a fuck. Comes to work for the 1st & the 16th. He'll never do anything to hurt you or help you. But his ass is always covered.
3) No longer sees himself as the police. His job is enforcing the bureaucratic rules of the department. Not only will he make sure his ass is covered, he'll go out of his way to fuck the people (blue shirts) who do the work on this job.
I'm sure you're a number 3 "Company man". Call me all the names you want, I still have my self respect. And unlike the cock sucker you are, I have no illusions of rising any higher. So fuck you "Company Man."
"I'm curious. Do the Inspectors actually work an eight hour day? I doubt it. To whom are they accountable? Someone should follow the followers and note the ghost payrolling they are getting away with. Taxpayers are definitely not getting their money's worth with these do-nothings."
Before you spout off your b.s. - Inspectors are expected to work an 8 hour day, just like the rest of us. They have to "swipe in". Yeah, you know your ID card? That's what's used to swipe in. Documenting the time and place when they start their day. I'd like to know how many true 8 hour days you have worked.
So just like there are fellow blue shirts that are (take your pick) dog-ass, lazy, out for himself/herself, there are inspectors that are better/worse than others.
And, no - I'm not an inspector. I'm just a blue shirt that gets aggravated when some of my fellow PO's decide to make generalizations about an entire group within the department based on the actions of 1 or 2 people.
Hey above, it is easy to make generalizations about inspectors because you have to be a certain type of person to take the job, a PIMP. Their job is to screw Police Officers. The easy way to stay away from them is to work the bad part of whatever district you are in because they are too scared to go in there and write you up. I guess you have not been screwed by one who tells you to your face, do not worry I will not write you up then does so. Get some time on the job kid then you wll change your mind. Unless you are a future Inspector wating to happen.
Hey above, it is easy to make generalizations about inspectors because you have to be a certain type of person to take the job, a PIMP. Their job is to screw Police Officers. The easy way to stay away from them is to work the bad part of whatever district you are in because they are too scared to go in there and write you up. I guess you have not been screwed by one who tells you to your face, do not worry I will not write you up then does so. Get some time on the job kid then you wll change your mind. Unless you are a future Inspector wating to happen.
11/20/2005 06:34:20 PM
Really, genious? So if they are pimps. I guess you are the whore.
Inspectors are a waste of money and manpower
To: 11/20/2005 06:34:20 PM
From: An Inspector
Subject: Do your Fucking Job/ Wear the Correct Fucking Uniform
And you don't have to worry about me.
11/20/2005 05:54:31 PM said:
"Before you spout off your b.s. - Inspectors are expected to work an 8 hour day, just like the rest of us. They have to "swipe in". Yeah, you know your ID card? That's what's used to swipe in. Documenting the time and place when they start their day. I'd like to know how many true 8 hour days you have worked.
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And, no - I'm not an inspector. I'm just a blue shirt that gets aggravated when some of my fellow PO's decide to make generalizations about an entire group within the department based on the actions of 1 or 2 people."
Get a clue, knucklehead. Do you actually think being required to swipe in and out enhances accountability for inspectors? They could easily swipe-in at the district station where they live (or the firehouse if it's closer), drive to the golf course in their company car, shoot 18 holes, have a few at the 19th hole, and swipe out on their way home. Not a bad job eh?
As for you being a "blue shirt" that gets aggravated when some of your fellow PO's decide to make generalizations about an entire group within the department based on the actions of 1 or 2 people, I hope you stay a blue shirt. You obviously have the temperament of an inspector and are too infatuated with the idea of being a pimp yourself to realize that the inspector position is a waste of manpower.
Don't be so eager to screw over your fellow officers or defend those who do so.
Years ago they did this big study on the Police Dept on how to make it better and save money, The Booze/Allen report I believe. One of the things they stated to save money was to get rid of the inspectors as they are just doing the Sgts and Lts job anyway and are redundant. Of course it did not happen because how could you take care of your friends if we got rid of the Inspectors?.
Anonymous said...
Hey above, it is easy to make generalizations about inspectors because you have to be a certain type of person to take the job, a PIMP. Their job is to screw Police Officers. The easy way to stay away from them is to work the bad part of whatever district you are in because they are too scared to go in there and write you up. I guess you have not been screwed by one who tells you to your face, do not worry I will not write you up then does so. Get some time on the job kid then you wll change your mind. Unless you are a future Inspector wating to happen.
11/20/2005 06:34:20 PM
Really, genious? So if they are pimps. I guess you are the whore.
11/20/2005 06:40:20 PM
Hey, good Come Back INSPECTOR!
NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR SHINE BOX!
I can't help but see the irony in how so much trash is heaped around and on supervisors, inspectors, detectives, tactical.........take your pick. Those who make those crybaby comments sound just like the scumbags we deal with everyday who cry about US!
"Nothing is legit on this job, everything is a joke, everything is who you know, everything is bullshit...." Why don't we all just jump in the lake and forget it all?
Do your job to the best of your ability, don't dog things, study general orders when they come out, treat people the way you want to be treated. If a test comes along, study as much as you can. Eventually if you work hard enough you'll make it. Otherwise throw in the towel and go work for the fire department
Are you Kidding? Do your job to the best of your ability and still get written up. Don't dog it because someone has to answer the call not the clout babies. And Study? Go take a test without clout, score high but have people without clout score low on the first part, not take the second part and make rank. What Planet do you live on?
I was written up for wornout leather belt
(10:10:26) Then I guess you should just give it up and join the fire department.
Anonymous said...
I was written up for wornout leather belt
11/20/2005 10:37:14 PM
How much is the uniform allowance each year? No excuse for looking like shit, I don't care where you work or what your title is!
This Department should recruit from the military more. I've never seen a military man out of proper uniform.
If you get your shoes muddy, no excuse for not cleaning them BEFORE the next tour starts. Spill coffee on your shirt? WASH the damn thing, don't continue to wear it for a week! Belts look like something out of a Sam Peckinpah movie? Buy a new one!
Take a little pride in what you do and how you look! The easiest part of being the police is dressing the part for 8 hours. If you can't follow that, don't you dare bitch about being SPARed over it!
Every copper thinks they are owed something, whether it's a promotion, a free cup of coffee, or a pass from an Inspector when you look like shit. Take care of yourself and you have nothing to worry about!
And for the record, I'd like to see whoever holds roll call be responsible for the uniform infractions of their men. Stop it before it starts and no one can whine.
The last poster came across as a complete asshead.
I agree completely with his message, but he still sounds like an asshead.
What is an "asshead"?
Look in a mirror.
And for the record, I'd like to see whoever holds roll call be responsible for the uniform infractions of their men. Stop it before it starts and no one can whine. Take care of yourself and you have nothing to worry about.
This above quote makes me wonder if we lost the war. The writer has to be an idiot. On one hand he wants the WC to be responsible for how the men and women dress on the street and in another breath, he is saying that the officer has to take care of himself.
I always tell my guys and girls they were in uniform at rollcall. If you choose to wear or not wear something after that, I can't be everywhere.
If my officers did their job, and they did, I was proud of them and knew that if they arrived at checkoff, our job was complete. BTW, the best feeling in the world for me and I'm sure some other bosses is joking with your men and women of the watch at checkoff and thanking the Lord he brought em home.
11/21/2005 02:43:00 PM
Why does having pride in your appearance or being critical of those who don't make the previous poster an idiot? How hard is it to check your gear once in awhile and make needed repairs? Some of these guys look like they are construction workers. I guess in your mind self respect and pride are foreign concepts.
Key word YOUR appearance. I have no problem with a nice looking uniform. What I have a problem with is holding a WC responsible for someone in the field donning a knit hat if God forbid it gets bitter cold out there. A guy or girl abuses the medical, but shame on the working police officer if he or she has an extra pocket in on his vest cover or his belt is a little worn. I for one can't keep track of all these uniform standards anymore to be honest with you. The uniform doesn't make the cop. I worked with an officer who was a little overweight, smoked, and well, somtimes needed a shave, and he was my savior when a shotgun was aimed at my face.And whoever ok'd that baseball cap? We command more respect hatless than donning that nonsense.
That fucking baseball cap makes you look like a car wash attendant."Care for the value wash sir?" Its fucking pathetic.
I thought the baseball hat was a GREAT idea, until I saw how ugly the damn thing was. What's wrong with a blue or black cap with CPD on the front? Some alder-creature's nephew must have a basement hat making company...
Ok, agreed. I thought you were defending those that come to work with leather gear that is so worn out it appears to be tan, or vests or shirts with food stains,shoes that haven't seen a shine in years, etc., etc. All of which could be remedied with just a little routine maintenance. And your right, that BB cap looks stupid. BTW, I'm hearing that they are going to re-write the order which allows us to wear black vests as an outer garment when wearing the sweater. When wearing the sweater you will have to wear the vest underneath the sweater.
Hey: 11/21/2005 07:03:35 PM
Maybe you should pick up a general order instead of standing in front of the fucking mirror and masterbating as you check yourself out in uniform.
They changed the order almost 2 months ago.. Thats why you will never get promoted.. But you sure look nice in your police-boy outfit.
Interviews with prisoners who are convicted cop killers have shown that they choose their victims often enough to be statistically significant based on the Officer's appearence.
The logic here is that police officers that pride themselves on their appearence are more likely to be fit and strong and possibly profiecient in the fighting arts, firearm retention and use etc.
Therefore these officers may be harder targets for assaults
Additionally worn out equipment can be deadly especially in the area of holsters.
There is a firearm involved in every disturbance, YOURS. Sturdy well maintained holsters and leather goods can be the difference of being disarmed or not
Many officers havent cleaned their weapons since leaving the Academy.
These things are machines and need to be maintained.
Besides that how about a little pride in ones self?
When youre out looking for a little action you dress nice, doncha??? Or dontcha??
If that isnt enough we ARE required to look a certain way and we ARE given a uniform allowance
which is intended to pay for uniforms not car insurance.
Just an observation from an old timer
When I worked in a northside district 8 years ago, there was a guy who worked on the nicest beat in the district. Full of nice restaurants, clubs, stores...a great place for a single copper to "cruise for chicks or guys". This guys 2 partners were clean! I mean, pants with creases in them so sharp, you could cut a steak. Neat, nice haircuts, the works.
However, this poor slob was, well...a slob. He was worse than Pigpen. He wore the same uniform 6 days in a row. He smelled so bad, other P.O.'s complained. One time at roll call, during uniform inspection, the Lt. told him to clean his vest cover..then burn it.
He got counseled twice by the Sgt, and actually cried because he couldn't understand why people were complaining.
One of his partners ended up marrying a doctor he met on his beat. He's still married, living in a big house that she bought.
Pigpen transferred to another district and when I ran into him a few years ago, he was still a smelly slob.
There's a lesson to be learned from this guys and gals....keep your sh*t tight and you might get lucky!
Again, taking pride in oneself should be practiced and the norm, still, you should not dress nice to get some action or to get lucky. I would think many times officers are attacked because of bad positioning and control tactics and not because his uniform or appearance was lacking.
Also some of need to use our resources for other things because we still don't have a contract or because we are being forced to increase our share for medical coverage.
I know I'm gonna get killed for this,but..... Although I am rarely in full uniform and I think most of them are anal dickheads...Inspectors are a necessary evil. Otherwise, we all know that many coppers would go way overboard and look like complete shit. It is a UNIFORM, after all. If those baseball hats didn't look stupid enough, they look ever worse when some pretty boy with frosted hair decides he is in a boy-band and not CPD and wears the thing around backwards.
12:12:37
I'll say this slow so you can understand. They are going to re-write the order that allows you to wear the vest as an outer garment . So you understand, that means that if you choose to wear the sweater you must wear it over the black body armour vest.It means that you cannot wear the vest OVER the sweater, get it? You have to wear UNDERNEATH the sweater. If you still do not undertand, have your mommy read this post.
Carry on!
05:00:04 PM
Sorry...
NOW GO BACK TO POUNDING YER MEAT.. Don't get any spunk on yer police (sissy) sweater or worse.. that gay baseball hat.
Real cops wear checker hats with ties with leather (or the old nylon) jackets.. NO sissy Old Navy pocket pants either.
We all look like a bunch of pussies out there now.. Whats next? FUCKING CLOGS TO WEAR WITH THE CARGO PANTS???
The baseball ahts and the bdu's suck suck suck. We are the Chicago Police Department, not the Star Security Agency.
Get rid of the baseball caps.. they look terrible. What a laughing stock
If the vest is going to worn as an outer garment then it would be worn over your sweater. Your coat is your outer garment and that is always worn over everything.
The action I was referring to was when off duty not on duty
I meant looking sharp on a date etc
Gimme a break, wearing your vest over a sweater will look really stoopid.
If you want to look cool learn how to lock up people for dopw and jump on a tac team. If you want to be a little bit more comfortable then wear your vest over your sweater.
The baseball caps have got to go, I have already seen to many of them on display in the back windows of personal (not po's) cars. Anyone can buy them. At least the Real hats, couldn't be copied. And as far as the winter bands, anyone can buy them too. Make it a law at the uniform stores that are ripping us off that a CPD id is required for purchase of police clothing.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEW DEPUTY SUPT. OF PATROL, CHARLES WILLIAMS, HAS ISSUED A PROCALAMTION REQUIRING OFFICERS TO CARRY THE LATEST ISSUE IN THEIR SQUAD CARS ON A A DAILY BASIS.
Unfortunately, Inspectors are a necessary evil. Too many W/C's don't catch the guys (and gals) who look terrible in their old, smelly, nasty uniforms. Fe W/C's even hold line inspections, or even weapons inspections of their troops. And we ALL know that response to assignments ranges from decent to (often) downright lousy. When we as a group do a better job of meeting identified standards, maybe then the Inspector position can be phased out. But I don't see it happening in my lifetime.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEW DEPUTY SUPT. OF PATROL, CHARLES WILLIAMS, HAS ISSUED A PROCALAMTION REQUIRING OFFICERS TO CARRY THE LATEST ISSUE IN THEIR SQUAD CARS ON A A DAILY BASIS.
11/24/2005 07:32:49 AM
If that is the case send him one on a daily basis.
And DON'T sign off on any SPAR or Write-up for this charge. Make the FOP earn their money. APPEAL IT.
posted by SCC at 7:41 AM on Nov 20 2005
FOP MAKE THEIR MONEY? NO WAY. THEY ARE IN THE CITY POCKET UP TO THERE EARS.MARK DONAHUE 175K A YEAR DOESN'T SHOW UP ON A SHOOTING! LACKEY'S ON THE BOARD OVER A 100K EACH ARE DONAHUE "YES" MEN.
Our new pension board rep who happens to be mark D's hand picked state fop v.p. recently attended a roll call and when asked about the 2013 issue, said "I don't Care, I will be retired! It won't affect me".
The FOP doesn't give a SHIT about you the working police!
STEAL P.O.'S MONEY IS MORE LIKE IT!
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