Sunday, November 20, 2005

Time for a Reminder

Once again, we need to remind people what an OPEN PUBLIC board is. A number of years back, an Area 4 Sergeant ran a board called SCCN (SecondCityCopNetwork we think). It was a novelty where cops could post about the FOP leadership (Nolan), policy, bosses, etc. He didn't conceal his identity and ran the board openly. His contact e-mail was his own and we assume he paid for the site himself.

It all came to a crashing halt one day when the head of the Disabled Chicago Police Officers Association sued the sergeant for comments made on the site. We alluded to this event in our very first post. Of course, it was an open unregulated board, and the fact that there were no registered users protected him from liability, but the damage was done and the site shut down shortly thereafter. We still have a copy of the lawsuit in our files (as we said, we are pack rats and get a hold of everything!)

Nowadays, anyone can run a free website on any variety of subjects. The Internet has truly become the great equalizer of our times. Unfortunately, the tiny brains don't seem to have evolved in the ensuing time span. We still get the occasional knuckle dragger posting racist, misogynist crap and some borderline slander. Internet Law is very vague at this point in time. We feel comfortable with everything we've posted on the blog. The trouble comes in the comments. Certain case precedent says that if you have open and unregulated commentary, the site moderator isn't liable for what is said. Other precedent says if you regulate comments, you are the de facto editor and therefore responsible for content, though there are contradictions to this too.

Anyway, back to the point of this post. We are garnering a bit of attention lately. Media figures are contacting us; Watch Commanders mention us at roll calls; Instructors reference postings in class; we even heard that IAD was directed to conduct an investigation of IP addresses to ensure that posting was not being done on city time on city computers (but they didn't care about study groups being done on city time though - hmm). Watch the language boys and girls. We can't prove everyone here is CPD. But we can't prove that everyone here isn't either. Last month we got 1,800 visitors on a single day from 3 dozen countries. We directed our publicity material to cops; we sent faxes to police stations; most of our visitors are blue. But if you don't want your comments appearing under Fran Speilman's by-line and the mayor saying how shocked he is while he ducks another "Hired Truck" question, knock off the crap. We don't need the heat. Otherwise, at some point, it becomes too much and another good idea ends up where SCCN is now.

94 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

How could you get in trouble for using this site while working? IAD should go find better shit to investigate than this nonsense. Big deal, I am waiting for A2 SVU to show up and have been waiting for 2 hours. My paperwork is done. I cant surf the web while waiting?

11/20/2005 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response I posted this before but you obviously did not read it.


When you say slow response time do you mean when you first bring your big arrest in and call or when you are finally done with the paperwork and have the kids fingerprinted and photographed. We do not send anyone out to process your juvenile arrest until they are all done being Booked by you. Let me guess, you are one of those officers who calls in and wants a youth officer there to help you babysit your arrest before it is done. When you arrest an adult does the lock-up take them before the paperwork is done, I didn't think so. I'm sure you are probably one of those Officers who calls us and when we ask for the CB# you tell us the kid is in the back being processed right now and then the kid is not fingerprinted for over an hour. Just in case you don't know we can check on CHRIS to see if you telling the truth or not. Or let me guess, you are one of those Officers who tells us they contacted the parent and put it on the arrest report and tell us they are on the way when later we find out that the parent was never contacted. If you cant get a parent just let me know up front so I'm not wasting my time waiting for them to come in. HHHMMMM, maybe that's why it takes 2 to 3 hours because some A-hole in another district lied to me about some things. Putting lies on an arrest report could be construed as falsifying a Official report. Don't worry, Ive been on the job 16 years and I have never beefed on another Officer so don't worry tough guy, keep locking up those kids. Sorry SCC, I know this post is long but just a few more things for good old 0820 post. Hey Ill bet you are also one of those Officers who locks a kid up for BS and when the parent asks you what happened you tell them that the Youth Officer will explain it. If you are sooooooo embarrassed of what you locked the kid up for that you cant tell the parents maybe you should find another job. AND last but not least, I'm sure your one of those who catches 3 or 4 kids in a hot car and wants to charge all them with PSMV and not just the driver. Just because they are kids you cant sand-bag them. If you have kids I hope some P.O. does not sandbag your kids that way but then I'm sure you will be the first one talking nice to me asking for a break. I have a long memory and I know who has tried to screw me in the past. Maybe you are one of them and that's why it takes 2 to 3 hours. next time I'll take 4.

Once again SCC sorry about the rant

Sincerely
A Area 2 SVU Dick

11/20/2005 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous In The know said...

Anonymous said...
How could you get in trouble for using this site while working? IAD should go find better shit to investigate than this nonsense. Big deal, I am waiting for A2 SVU to show up and have been waiting for 2 hours. My paperwork is done. I cant surf the web while waiting?

11/20/2005 09:27:39 PM



You have a lot to learn!

#1 IAD has to investigate whatever bullshit complaint gets made. THEY aren't the ones who start the shit...with an average case load of 20 cr's per person down there, do you really think they want to start more crap that will end up going nowhere?!?!?!? I think not. Besides that, I know for a fact that many of them browse this site regularly. I haven't heard of any investigations in to this site, yet. If certain morons keep up the racial shit though, I'm sure this site will end up blocked by the City's filters.

#2 YES, Einstein, you CAN get in trouble for using the internet for non-police purposes while on duty. And try as you might, saying this site serves a useful police purpose while on duty is going to be a tough sell to whoever is investigating if you got called on it.

Basically, if there isn't link a on the Department INTRANET to whatever site you are on, then you shouldn't be on it while on a City computer. That includes personal email like Yahoo and Hotmail, etc accounts. There is an Order on it...look it up. Maybe you'll learn something and not sound so ignorant next time. Probably not...

11/20/2005 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Calm down there all high and mighty youth DICK. While there might be some people who do what you have posted a majority do not.

I am glad to see that you are taking the word of some idiots parent over the officers in regards to whether they were notified.

There have been countless times in which I have called for a youth DICK after all my responsablities had been completed and the youth DICK who answered the phone tells me that no one is available. I sit around for 1 to 2 hours and then see a car pull in with 3 or 4 youth DICKS in it and they all get out of the car and stroll in with their left overs from lunch. Now before you get your panties in a bunch and state that they were out on a call, when is the last time you needed 4 youth DICKS to process a youth? I am sure you do not take out one car and drop the other 3 people off at different locations and then return to pick them up when you are done with your work.

Use your great DICK skills to and re-read his post he was not complaining about you he was stating that if he is waiting in the station for something, whixh it happened to be a youth DICK, and he is done with his responsablities why can't he surf the net? Should he sit there and stare at the walls?

Stop your bitching be happy with your 2 hour lunchs while others wait around for you and continue to "add" statements to your reports so you can ride on the back of some other officer and get court time.

11/20/2005 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HERES TO THOSE LIKE US (DETECTIVES) AND THOSE THAT WANT TO BE LIKE US.

PASS THE TEST CRY BABY, AND WILL SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO RESPOND.

GET YOUR FACTS STRIGHT!!

11/20/2005 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Total Retard unit said...

This thread has gone entirely too long without some TRU Unit bashing!

11/20/2005 10:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having been a youth officer once upon a time in a land far far away, I don't recall ever having time for a 2 hour lunch or even lunch of anykind. Was lucky to be able to sit at a desk in whatever station I was in processing with 5 spar minutes to gulp down a burger king that some p.o. picked up for me. As a Y.O or a Det., you have very little control over your own schedule - you can call down on lunch like a beat car and you're always on call. If you're late in responding to a district call and the desk sgt. calls the unit to find out where you are after waiting a mere 10 minutes, you catch hell, particularly if you've got some pissant sgt. breathing down your neck trying to show the boss that he knows how to run his troops. Walk in their shoes for a minutes before you start calling names.

11/20/2005 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous 22 year dick said...

Listen, I'm not going to begrudge anyone a nice long lunch. God Bless ya, I hope you enjoy it! But please don't insult us by saying that you never had time for lunch! Cause if that's true, you are either the hardest working, most ethical Detective to ever work for the CPD, or you are the absolute dumbest!

I can see it happening every once in a GREAT while, but if you regularly couldn't find time to eat. you should think about transfering to Area 3. THOSE boys eat like M-Fing kings!!!

11/20/2005 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is another problem I see with the comments.

A thread is posted about a certain subject, it doesn't mater what. And within two to three posts in the comments section it is redirected to to some supposed coppers lambasting each other about who is tougher or smaeter than the other.

This just lets other people think we are a bunch of morons that can't talk or comment about anything other than other cops.

For example:
SCC posts a thread about Zarqawi possibly being dead, and cops comment about the bud billiken parade. I could go on and on, but It always repeats itself. A thread is posted and the comments have NOTHING to do with the thread.

There is always good commentary on this. I may not agree with Leftisbest on their politics, but this site is a good venue for reasonable discourse between people with different viewpoints.

Did anybody notice that a lot of the usual commenters dont post anymore? I think it is because the comments being made now serve no purpose other than to defame another cop, no matter if it is a boss or a blue shirt, just to make the anonymous poster feel good about themselves.

This is the kind of crap that will sink this site. Not IAD or Lawsuits. It will sink because who will want to continue to come here to see all the crappy comments being posted here.

This site can serve a very good purpose of trading information between cops and others that would not normally be in contact with each other. Also, it gives cops a chance to discuss other things going on in the world other than the Chicago police department.

Try it guys/gals, there is whole other world out there other than the CPD.

11/20/2005 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:53, I'm with you 100% on this.

Unfortuneately, the lure of annonymously slamming someone you don't like, or someone that you are jealous of is too strong for some of these little boys to handle. Inferiority complexes must run deeper in this department than I thought.

How sad that many can only validate themselves by putting others down.

How sad that so many feel the need to validate themselves in the first place, albeit, annonymously.

11/20/2005 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 1025

No, I never take the word of a parent over the POLICE. However when i am told that the parent has been contacted and here is the number then I call it and it is disconnected there is a problem. I know what you are going to say that maybe it was a typo but it happens all too much. Maybe you are legit and I thank you for that but for some reason when It comes to dealing with juveniles Officers really fudge their stories.

11/20/2005 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats because when dealing with juveniles..... NOTHING MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a total dog and pony show!!!!!

11/20/2005 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Until It is your Kid then all of a sudden it becomes real.

11/20/2005 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This site can serve a very good purpose of trading information between cops and others that would not normally be in contact with each other. Also, it gives cops a chance to discuss other things going on in the world other than the Chicago police department.

Try it guys/gals, there is whole other world out there other than the CPD.

11/20/2005 10:53:51 PM

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I know what you are saying, but the topic was ethical use of City computers while waiting for a youth dick. That is just what was going on. If it's anyone's fault it's the SVU DICK that is not happy with his job and takes it out on others.

carry on!

11/20/2005 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to back up 10:53's post 110%, Too many times have individuals gotten off track on to some other bullshit... That is one of the major reasons WE, as a department will continualy get fucked by the city. Someone brings up a valid point, time for disscussion, and next thing you know, we are no longer talking about a 4% pay increase during contract negotiation time, were babbling about the right to wear a fucking earing in uniform! No longer disscussing about how we can save a few fellow officers on this site from getting nailed in a lawsuit, were bashing the youth division (I still say TRU deserves bashing, however...).If we do not stand together, we will definitaly hang seperatly!"

11/21/2005 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Believe it or Not said...

TRU will be disbanded along with housing north as of 1st period to put manpower back into the districts.

11/21/2005 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SVU = Mucho Headaches as well as Central Detention

11/21/2005 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a SVU dick I am Happy with my job. It would be better if you guys told me the truth. I have covered Many PO in the past. Just tell me truth and i can help you.

11/21/2005 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the f&*k?
TRU,TRU,SOS,SOS
SVU,SVU
Shut the f&*k up already
talk about the subjects posted
and mister or misses 12:12:40 AM
you made a very good point then contradicted your self by saying something stupid (I still say TRU deserves bashing, however...)it's a dead subject! Beat cops don't like stretegic deployment officers or detectives. Fine we get it stay on subject.
Back to the subject scc is trying to say people please watch what you say to avoid a bunch of B.S.

11/21/2005 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, if they bang folks here for posting on city time will they also look at all the computers in Watch Commanders' offices for surfing the web?

11/21/2005 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

01:15:47
Who needs your help? you diaper dick-head. Your juve minutes sheet are complete copies of the "Arresting Officers"
Your lazy ass won't even take statments, because God forbid you may have to testify in court.
Remember you are not a Detective, like the real ones HOMICIDE,ROBBERY. Do you recall when those stars said investigator and your Counterparts were DETECTIVE AND GANG SPECICALIST because I do.
SVU you piece of shit.

11/21/2005 02:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

01:15:47
Who needs your help? you diaper dick-head. Your juve minutes sheet are complete copies of the "Arresting Officers"
Your lazy ass won't even take statements, because God forbid you may have to testify in court.
Remember you are not a Detective, like the real ones HOMICIDE,ROBBERY. Do you recall when those stars said investigator and your Counterparts were DETECTIVE AND GANG SPECICALIST because I do.
SVU you piece of shit.

11/21/2005 02:06:10 AM

WOW! I guess someone did not make it on clout. try and suck a little better.

11/21/2005 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All new cadets should be getting certified as youth officers and all P.O. should have in service training to be certified. So we can handle our own juvenile arrestee, and not have some cry bady bitch moaning about processing.
Then you can go have your lunch, your position is worthless. You be better off at 311 answering phones,or maybe cleaning shit-bowls.

11/21/2005 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SVU ='s DIPSHIT BEST IS THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT KNOWS IT.
THATS WHY THEY ALL LIE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALIZE WHAT THEY DO.
OH I'M A CPD "detective" NO YOU ARE NOT LIARS!

11/21/2005 02:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you couldn't investigate a crime scene if you had a crime scene processing manual! that's a Handbook" that outlines what you need to do ...stupid!

11/21/2005 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if we start calling them detectives they'll stop being lazy ass dogs.! who about not diaper dic

11/21/2005 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would anyone ask an SVU "officer" for help.......
just look in the mirror,yah hello it's the same facial expression we see "clueless"

11/21/2005 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:34:20
SAYS "TOTAL RETARD UNIT" TRU
I MUST SAY THAT'S A TYPO ON HIS PARTS BECAUSE SVU IS JUST THAT!

11/21/2005 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S TUPID
V AGRANT
U NIT

11/21/2005 02:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S UBJECTS
V ITALS
U NCONSCIOUS

11/21/2005 03:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S EMEN
V ACCINE
U SERS

11/21/2005 03:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S HARED
U RINAL
V OLUNTARILY

11/21/2005 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S ENSELESS
U SELESS
V ILLAINS

11/21/2005 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

resonse to a2 youth dick
dont like your d2 pay then stop moaning and do your job. no one made you take your position. you worked patrol yourself, did you expect everything to change because you made dick. please.

11/21/2005 04:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote: "Anonymous said...
01:15:47
Who needs your help? you diaper dick-head. Your juve minutes sheet are complete copies of the "Arresting Officers"
Your lazy ass won't even take statments, because God forbid you may have to testify in court.
Remember you are not a Detective, like the real ones HOMICIDE,ROBBERY. Do you recall when those stars said investigator and your Counterparts were DETECTIVE AND GANG SPECICALIST because I do.
SVU you piece of shit.

11/21/2005 02:06:10 AM"

Wow, I guess that investigating a baby with multiple skull fractures and body fracures or a 3 year old that has been sexually assaulted by dad, or an infant with multiple cigarette burns doesn't count as real detective work or crime.

I think that because the only time some of you see youth officers is when you need juvenile processing, you forget the very real and tragic cases that are "investigated" by a youth officer.

Talking about response time and your gripes is one thing, but minimizing the investigative function of a youth officer is just plain wrong.

These kids are victims and YES its a real crime, and YES, youth officers put them in jail.

If you really do not know what a youth officer's job is don't say they aren't real Detectives because anywhere in the United States when you say you investigate Sexual Abuse by family and stranger, Physical Abuse, and the Abduction of Children by family and stranger the investigation is conducted by a Detective.

Detective or Youth Investigator...Either way, the crimes I investigate are Real, the Victims real, and the investigations real even if some P.O.'s don't consider the Child Victims of Physical and Sexual Abuse "real" victims of "real" crimes with investigations conducted by "real" Detectives.

I go to court for plenty of cases unless you don't count the cases above as real court either.

Thanks for playing.

11/21/2005 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 11/21/2005 04:24:52 AM

"dont like your d2 pay then stop moaning and do your job. no one made you take your position. you worked patrol yourself, did you expect everything to change because you made dick. please."

Why do SOME patrol personnel always think it's about the money..(D2A pay, lots of court time, massive amount of over time etc)
money has nothing to do with this.

If you only knew or take the time to ask.

11/21/2005 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRU BLOWS!!!

11/21/2005 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

R.I.P COWBOY RAY

11/21/2005 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRU ROCKS - SO DOES SGT. DAVE HARRIS!

11/21/2005 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He ain't dead yet!

11/21/2005 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crazy Mary did it

11/21/2005 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I posted last night about people going off topic.

This thread is another fine example of that. The thread is about be careful of what you post in the comments, because a lot of people are reading this.

Abd shortly the comments stray into a bashfest about SVU.

This is a great example as to why we will never be taken seriously, especially during contract negotiations.

11/21/2005 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spoke to Cowboy Ray at Bohicas a few times and he stated how much of a jagg off Mancow was to him. I remember hearing Mancow bad mouth him all the time on the show. Now hes Ray's best friend. I guess he would be for a million dollars of free advertising on all the tv channels.

11/21/2005 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Welcome home johnny B. said...

Anonymous said...
Spoke to Cowboy Ray at Bohicas a few times and he stated how much of a jagg off Mancow was to him. I remember hearing Mancow bad mouth him all the time on the show. Now hes Ray's best friend. I guess he would be for a million dollars of free advertising on all the tv channels.

11/21/2005 10:25:04 AM


Truth so pure!

11/21/2005 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnny B would never of used Pirahna Man like that!

11/21/2005 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't believe SVU handles those sensitive tender age sexual abuse cases by family or others.
It's the P.O.'s from patrol div. and a Detective from violent crimes not SVU. The unit is the juvenile advocacy section(S.I.U.)
special invesigation unit. SOMETIMES CONFUSED with SVU.
They work out of 1220 S. Damen.
If the case is a heater and news worthy they handle it.
Don't be fooled! SVU is a joke!

11/21/2005 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this is off topic and about the most recent comments. SVU r real detectives. One of the best things the dept did was give all detectives the same stars and make them equal. We all know that juvenile law is different than the law for adults. That was probably the reason in the past. Now that SVU has domestics and Child Abuse they r just as important as any other detective.

The reason most detectives especially youth get bad names at least in my expierence is Midnights!! U have alot of guys who really don't want to do anything when it comes to arrests. Yes you have guys who try to pass things off on every watch but, I have had bad expierences with Midnight youth dicks.

The dicks do get to many handouts everyday and should be able to do more work on patterns and cases that can be solved. They need more dicks upstairs or some PO's who don't want to work the street who could be handed the bullshit and do the secretarial work which is what alot of the handouts they r given amount to.

The dicks should always remember when P.O.'s bring something up that it is usually important to them. I know if I'm forced to bring something up I tell the dick so he knows I think its bullshit to.

As an earlier poster said. As long as we stay divided the city has us. As this blog shows everyday. We r more divided than any group I can think of.

11/21/2005 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When a P.O. from patrol division makes an arrest of a juvenile and that Officer can't make contact with a guardian oh well. It is now the responsibility of svu to investigate the where abouts of the guardian and the circumstances why this individual is missing in act. They are to contact DCFS.
It's great when the diaper dics have to baby sit all those beautiful kiddies at the Bud Billiken parade every August. While momma gets her freak on all nite long. If you would do your job throughout the year, these kids would be in DCFS custody and not momma.

11/21/2005 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

someone said:

Don't believe SVU handles those sensitive tender age sexual abuse cases by family or others.
It's the P.O.'s from patrol div. and a Detective from violent crimes not SVU. The unit is the juvenile advocacy section(S.I.U.)
special invesigation unit. SOMETIMES CONFUSED with SVU.
They work out of 1220 S. Damen.
If the case is a heater and news worthy they handle it.
Don't be fooled! SVU is a joke!"

You bashed youth officers. The last time I checked SIU was staffed by Youth Officers Not "real" Detectives.

Just like you remember when we had those separate stars, I also remember when Youth handled those sensitive sex crimes and physical abuse cases.

You don't know as much as you think you do, champ.

So yes, Youth Officers (I did not say anything about SVU), handle quite a bit of serious crime.

SVU the unit you bash so freely still handles that baby with the multiple skull fractures and cigarette burns on their body, or does that still not count as a "real" crime to you, but then again you know all about my job right Ace?

11/21/2005 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I THINK THEIR ALL WORTHLESS IN SVU.
YOU THINK THEY REALLY LIKE INVESTIGATING CHILD CRIMES BE VICTIMS OR OFFENDERS. I'M SURE THEY ALL WOULD MUCH RATHER BE "REAL DETECTIVES" LIKE THEIR COUNTER-PARTS WHO DO REAL POLICE INVESTIGATIONS.

11/21/2005 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know P.O.s work is S.I.U. and yes real Detectives and of course youth officers I figured anyone would have know that, with nit being JUVENILE advovacy section.
It's not just youth officers or SVU Detectives.

11/21/2005 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without a doubt if you are a Youth Officer "DETECTIVE" assigned to S.I.U. you men and women know your skills very well and I commend you for what you deal with.

11/21/2005 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS OFF THE SUBJECT:

Kline was smart combining the youth and detectives division. You couldnt get people who wanted to be youth officers, now they have no choice. Try processing 15 people in thw 13th District on a hot summer night, especially if there good pinches, you have a lot of work. Thats the most I ever processed, four got sent to the Audy. I will not complain I wanted to be a Youth Officer. I also never have missed lunch.

What I hate is being denied comp time because we have no manpower. My daughter got married, my p-day was denied. I naturally hit the medical.

Try working in that shit whole Area 2 Youth. Its has always been the arm pit of the Youth Division.
Please consider the A2YOs, especially the young guys who do not have enough clout to be in Robbery or Homicide. Would you like to be told your a detective but in reality you are only a police matron.

The youth division should be turned over to civilian social workers.

Now that the detectives have to fax the general offense and the arrest slip to the ASAs, maybe the youth division could do the same thing. Fax the reports and give the kid back to the parents. Let some one else follow it up on days like the suburban departments do.

Please lay off the unit, until you work there you will never know the good work the guys do.

11/21/2005 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The youth division should be turned over to civilian social workers.

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WOW! would that be a colosial mistake!

11/21/2005 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously there are alot of problems with A2 SVU response time. Rather than bitch bitch bitch, maybe a boss or someone who can remedy the problem will read this and make a change for the positive. Also why cant the arresting officer notify youth and see if he is to be housed or adjusted and if station adjustment is warranted then fill out the paper and send him home wuth parent. Simple.

11/21/2005 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SVU (AS DETECTIVES GO) IS LIKE THE GUYS WHO WANT TO WORK TACT SO THEY CAN SPORT THEIR COOL C/D OUTFITS AND THEN BRING IN DRINKERS. THEY LOVE THE TITLE OF DETECTIVE BUT NOT THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH IT. YES THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE, BUT YOU CAN'T BULLSHIT US BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH SVU. ALSO, 9:50 WHY SHOULDN'T THEY CHARGE ALL OF THEM WITH PSMV? IF THEY ALL KNOW THE VEHICLE IS STOLEN, THEN THEY ALL POSSESS THE PROPERTY IN THE EYES OF THE LAW. JUST BECAUSE OUR SHITTY ASA WOULD NEVER APPROVE DOSEN'T MEAN THE CRIME DID NOT OCCUR. ALSO......ATTENTION ALL DET.S!!!!!!!!YOU TOO ARE P.O.S!! ASSIGNED AS DET.!!!!! NOTHING MORE, SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES.

11/21/2005 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

......ATTENTION ALL DET.S!!!!!!!!YOU TOO ARE P.O.S!! ASSIGNED AS DET.!!!!! NOTHING MORE, SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES.

11/21/2005 02:08:42 PM




Says the guy who can't pass the test.

11/21/2005 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous SIR DONKEY said...

SVU in AREA5 aint no joke! Thats where all the bad Det.s that dont kiss the commanders ass go! Thats for sure.

11/21/2005 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

det's Feb 6

11/21/2005 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous CPD only a job, not your life said...

Unless you have a Sgt. stripe you DICK's can go fuck yourself when trying to boss another P/O around at some crime scene. I just want to do 25 than out, no need for promotions so you can keep that jealousy stuff and shove it. You DICK's need to realize that this is a job, nothing more nothing less. You may be able to strong arm some PPO's or TRU guys into thinking you guys are the saviours of CPD but most cops think you guys are strokes. As far as waiting 2-3 hours makes no difference to me, I can surf the web, talk on the phone and still get paid.

11/21/2005 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:42

obviously couldn't pass the test

But he knows EVERYTHING

11/21/2005 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awwwww Shit! You didn't just invoke the name of Sir Donkey, did you?!?!?

There ain't no pity in Donkey City!

* The Commander of 025 hides under his desk as whispers of Sir Donkey's return float through the Area *

11/21/2005 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/21/2005 02:42:30 PM

I wouldn't want your sorry ass at my crime scene. Unfortunately, because you are a do-nothing, you're always available. The famous crime scene protector. Sitting in your car looking at tape, with that "cow staring at a passing train" look on your face. Of course the response to every question is "It's not my paper".

11/21/2005 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course the response to every question is "It's not my paper".

11/21/2005 03:47:51 PM



Have we met before?

11/21/2005 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous cmdr., "donkey city" (025) said...

Omigod! Please, Sir Donkey. Noooooooooooooooooooo! Your beef is with Curtin, not me. Pleeeeease, no. Spare me from the just wrath of the notorious Sir Donkey.

11/21/2005 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:28 Wrong! says the guy who already outranks you.

11/21/2005 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous SIR DONKEY said...

SIR DONKEY loves all working P.O.s...as for useless P.O.s , Dets. ,HouseMouse P.O.s & the all knowing pompous ass "I forgot where I came from "Bossess- You shall feel the wrath! Hee HAWWWWWW!!!!

11/21/2005 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Combining the Detective Division and Youth Division was not klines idea it was George Ruckrich's idea back in the late 80's early 90"s. Area 6 Detectives beefed and it never got off the ground.

11/21/2005 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Said:

"SVU (AS DETECTIVES GO) IS LIKE THE GUYS WHO WANT TO WORK TACT SO THEY CAN SPORT THEIR COOL C/D OUTFITS AND THEN BRING IN DRINKERS. THEY LOVE THE TITLE OF DETECTIVE BUT NOT THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH IT."

Kind of like District Law Enforcement P.O.'s (As far as P.O.'s go) right? They love the title of Police Officer but not the work that goes along with it and want to bail out of District Law Enforcement as quickly as they can. One can tell because of the constant whining on the blog about units this promotions that and the berating of TRU and the Detective Division and SVU in particular.

One can only hope that if you make Detective you will be sent to SVU. You should talk to some of the real Detectives who have been cross trained and realize just how much unseen work goes on in SVU. They will tell you.

Soon in the next few years (You all heard it here first), SVU will become the second most sought after oversight office in Area Criminal Investigations. It will be Homicide, SVU, and Robbery.

Take it to the bank. Cross Trained Detectives are beginning to realize it now.

11/21/2005 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:52:47, please, please tell us who the coward POS boss that denied you CU for your daughters wedding was. I can't believe it!

11/21/2005 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What ever happen to us. When I came on the job twenty four years ago it was we always took care of our own. You always new the guy's on your watch had your back. Even the guy's who lost the drive to do aggessive police work would ride on a call for an assist without being assigned. You would extended yourself to the family members of our own. Look at us now, bad mouthing every other officer, other units and departments. Dispatchers having to search for assist units. Officers going out of the way to stick-it to other offices or their families. If we can't rely on each other who do we rely on ?

11/21/2005 07:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Unless you have a Sgt. stripe you DICK's can go fuck yourself when trying to boss another P/O around at some crime scene. I just want to do 25 than out, no need for promotions so you can keep that jealousy stuff and shove it. You DICK's need to realize that this is a job, nothing more nothing less. You may be able to strong arm some PPO's or TRU guys into thinking you guys are the saviours of CPD but most cops think you guys are strokes. As far as waiting 2-3 hours makes no difference to me, I can surf the web, talk on the phone and still get paid.

YOU ARE EXACTLY WHAT OUR JOB DOESN'T NEED...A LAZY ASS WITH A NAPOLEON COMPLEX....THE ONLY TIME YOU WOULD GET BOSSED AROUND IS WHEN YOU ARE SITTING AROUND WITH YOUR FINGER IN YOUR NOSE CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER....YOU ARE A MORON AND IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE POLICE DEPT YOU WOULD BE UNEMPLOYED1!

11/21/2005 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous SweetBabyRay JR. said...

You go Sir Donkey!!!!

11/21/2005 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As if there were any doubt that a bunch of morons from 025 do the majority of the shit slinging here, I present to you, Sir Donkey!

11/21/2005 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the "Real Police" in the dept work within Area#1 no doubt.
And most of the best are from #008.
#007 got good coppers too just young. But must say #009 and #008 are like brother districts.Both got great hard workin P.O.'s!

11/21/2005 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about Commander ROY from 009?
any good to work for?

11/21/2005 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous 812 3rd watch = pussy said...

11/21/2005 10:25:45 PM

You better be leaving out 812 3rd watch cause that pussy hides at the airport and does nothing all day long.

11/21/2005 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok there's always a few in the bunch that must be sacrificed!

11/21/2005 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who is it that the W/C keeps him on #812?

11/21/2005 10:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about Commander ROY from 009?
any good to work for?

11/21/2005 10:31:15 PM

HE'S A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!
THE ASSHOLE THAT HE IS!!!!!

11/22/2005 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I second the above comment,

I heard about a shooting that occurred in the 009th district where the victim was taken to the hospital but was unable to be interviewed, well go ol' cocksucking Roy said he had a tip from one of his informants identifying the shooter as a black male then supplied the name.

Well as you can guess, the dicks interviewed a few people and determined the shooter was Hispanic but did that satisfy Cocksucking Roy, No.... did he go to the violent crimes sergeant with his information, no. Did he go to the violent crimes lieutenant with his information, no. Did he even go to the Commander of Area 1 with his information, no he went straight to the Area 1 Deputy Chief (Killacky) saying that the dicks weren't doing their job and following up on his good information, which led the chief to go the the Area 1 commander with his concerns.

When the victim was finally interviewed guess what, he identifed the shooter as Hispanic.

So decide on your own if he's good to wok for. I THINK NOT and I work in 009

11/22/2005 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh boy it’s about Roy

I didn't like him when he was a Patrolman

I couldn't stand him when he was a Sergeant

I despised him when he was a Lieutenant

I hated him when he was a Captain

I hope he die when he is a Commander.

And no it's not jealously or envy, I just don't like the guy.

11/22/2005 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sweetbabyray," welcome back!!!!!!

Where ya been? Last time you said you were going to New Orleans. Did you really go there?

11/22/2005 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 11/22/2005 09:33:10 AM

Didn't you know him as an OPS investigator before he came on the job? I hated him then too.

11/23/2005 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok I'm leaving 009 and thinking about transfering to 005, good move ?

11/23/2005 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No STAY IN 009. There is no where to eat. No scenery whatsoever. Its a dead end southside shithole dumping ground.

11/23/2005 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh and I forgot the second watch captain is a real treat.

11/23/2005 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the other two watches ?

11/23/2005 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First watch in 005 is all f/uped,
shaky bones captain and biggest stroke Lt. you will ever meet.
Best Sgts on first watch, spineless leadership, Lt. and above.

The district is run by Capt. White, every one is afraid of her.

Third watch is no better, second watch is really screwed up, back log every day.

all the young guys are waiting to leave, all bid for Area 1 districts.

11/24/2005 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree, Ruth Wedster is a great boss. Third watch captain.

11/24/2005 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commander Roy of 009 was a Lt. in 21 he is a self serving know it all that loves to talk about how when he was a Dick in homicide he did blah blah blah....he can'nt help himself he is a piece of shit that if he was not the police he would be some low level office worker....he is th most rude...disgusting...politician ass kissing excuse for a cop that I have ever seen...I feel sorry for the 009th District men and women that have to work for this stroke.......

11/25/2005 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since you come in contact with the Sgts. more than the Lt. and the W/Cs, how are they?

11/25/2005 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Roy was a property crime dick

11/25/2005 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not according to him.....could he have lied...oh no.......

11/27/2005 11:19:00 AM  

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