More Proof of Manpower Crisis
Besides the post we put up over the weekend about the massive discrepancy between the number of applications the administration says it's received as opposed to what certain people in Personnel (who actually process the applications) are telling our readers ... AND the Superintendent admitting that 92% of his districts are undermanned ... AND the fact that cops all over the city can't get time off when requested ... AND ... the declining number of checks cut for Title Code 9161 ... AND god knows how many threads we've written here decrying the shift of scheduled manpower from one area to the next, we have additional information that the manpower number is reaching low levels:
CHA Special Employment is now open citywide and they're paying time and a half. We saw in the CO Book that it came out Thursday last week and someone mentioned it in a comments section somewhere. We remember it being pointed out that it was only Housing getting the opportunity to work extra days for overtime, but now it's open season. This brings to three (?) the number of initiatives to work for time and half on your days off - TARA, CHA and the other thing for 50 people working the DOC areas on Fridays and Saturdays.
A couple of observations:
CHA Special Employment is now open citywide and they're paying time and a half. We saw in the CO Book that it came out Thursday last week and someone mentioned it in a comments section somewhere. We remember it being pointed out that it was only Housing getting the opportunity to work extra days for overtime, but now it's open season. This brings to three (?) the number of initiatives to work for time and half on your days off - TARA, CHA and the other thing for 50 people working the DOC areas on Fridays and Saturdays.
A couple of observations:
- Can we make any of this money pensionable? Would we want to? At least two of these are funded by Federal money.
- Why anyone would work CTA for straight time anymore is beyond us. Stop going and maybe they'll make it time and a half too.
- How about making ALL initiatives like this time and a half? Imagine the attendance numbers for Closed Market operations! Or even the details for 3 July, Billiken, PR Fest, Cinco de Mayo, or South Side Irish Parade?
Make the people running the event PAY for coverage instead of giving them free security. We recall some kind of program being pushed by the FOP to make Bears games and such Special Employment for time and a half - you'd have NO shortage of volunteers and the city wouldn't be pulling people out of already short districts to cover what is a FOR PROFIT endeavor. Now would seem to be the time to really start some sort of publicity push to force the issue. How can we take advantage of it?
posted by SCC at 12:30 AM
50 Comments:
hey am i first? im just trying to days in this damn department!!!!
actually, some great ideas: 1) make the organizers of the various fests/parades (SS Irish, PR fest, etc.) pay for their security, at time and a half; no pay, no permit; 2) no question that the CPD is undermanned; how about a complete, honest, accurate, and independently verified personnel audit of the entire dept. (how many and where everyone is actually working (no details in or out), also taking into account avg. per day on the medical, etc.). Eyebrows raised by the public?
It is still cheaper for the department to hire back ODPO's at time and 1/2 then it is to hire new. none the less, 4 classes of recruits in the academy right now. New class of dicks is in. Sgts go in late January. Other ranks to follow?
They probably won't start hiring off the Jan 05 test list until summer. Maybe after summer, should they need to do more "physical improvements"...
We will be short for a long time.
And dont count on the overtime, they will pull it as soon as the year changes, and they no longer have to press the 0110 numbers.
Yea, the already high taxpaying citizens of Beverly and Mt. Greenwood are going to PAY for police to do their jobs on the SS Irish parade.
Now, I agree with you on the PR parade, and the fag parade.
Besides, we're saving our money for a huge Irish flag to span over 103rd and Western just like those Pork Chops have up in 014.
You guys are fucking nuts.
Seriously though -- The citizens of this city deserve parades to celebrate their ethnicities. As much as I always hated working the PR, Gay, Billiken, and even the SS Irish parade, it is our fucking job.
And I also disagree with our host's idea to "Stop going" to CTA special because it's not time and a half. When the department pulls the plug on these programs for T.5, which they will ---
(remember the airport sweet deal? How long do you think there will be anymore Housing? In 5 years, there won't be anymore fucking projects !)
-- you'll all be lining up at special again.
That is unless your socialistic asses ruin it by boycotting it and they start giving it to the fucking meter maids or privatize it.
G'night rimjobbers.
Dick
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If they made special(CTA) time and a half, the average person who relys on the income of CTA will never get it, it will be the usual, corrupt hire back process, it will be rigged just like the airport and all other details. Besides, do you really think the CTA will pay time and a half to a DET. or PO with 20-25 yrs on the job when they can pay a PO with less than 5 years on the job a much cheaper salary? CTA is all about the budget, they will never do it. If it ever goes to time and a half, it will be ruined, a group of greedy PO's will find a way to ruin it, and they will run out of money.
What about all the PO's that work for the security company that does the security for the Park District, wasnt the FOP going to ban anyone who works this from the FOP. Its all run by CPD bosses, they work for even less $ than CTA, they are the scabs.
Makes you wonder how much time is left for the 70-80 officers working in public housing north. Seems like the writing is on the wall and that might be next on the chopping block.
FYI, Phil Cline is an avid bicyclist!
SEISER RUNS IT!!!!
Mark$$ and CO brought a couple of coppers up, on charges for working at the bears games last year and then quietly dropped the charges because Mark$$ knew he was full of shit. Stop coppers from making extra money then offer them nothing in return but empty promises. We sent $$Fallon to Boston a couple of times all expenses paid to steal their system of only using off duty cops for any event WHERE IS THAT PROMISE NOW.
Just so you guys are aware. The TARA, CHA, and Violence Reduction Overtime are all being done by seniority. The new computer program they are using only allows them to pick by seniority. It sucks for the youngsters on the job but gives the veterans their rights as senior officers to work first. Sure, there are the limits of 2 days a month for TARA/CHA but that gives an opportunity to spread it around a little more. If you are a senior officer with the inclination, you could actually pull down 4 days a month at time and 1/2. 2 CHA and 2 TARA, I don't know about you guys but take advantage while the program is running.
TARA is paid for by Homeland Security grants that will last for 2 years unless we suddenly decide to invade another country. CHA is paid for by CHA. They have been paying for the program for the last 4 - 5 years so it should continue unless they suddenly get a change of heart.
As far as getting the organizers to pay for their police coverage, it ain't gonna happen folks, even though it is happening in every jurisdiction across the country. There are too many polically connected people throwing parties and festivals. Heck, the city can't even get them to pay for TCA's who are far cheaper than getting our butts out there.
Are the Yuppies going to take down the metal P.R. flags over Division when they push the P.R.'s out of Humbolt park? That whole strip of Division looks like a dump. GO YUPPIES!
Rumor has it Daley wants to put the CTA Police back in commission that Jane Byrne got rid of.
Another political army in the making.
ATTENTION!!!!USE THAT PDT TO CHECK FOR CLUSTER-SHIT JOBS!! HIT THE MENU KEY, GO TO EQ, ENTER A TIME PRIOR TO ACTUAL, AND THE DISTRICT! NOW SEE THE JOBS!!! DO IT NOW!!
HEY!!anyone want to come to 011? talk about manpower shortage!!..the house mouses are being given beat cars..there are several openings on tact ""LOL,and we know why"
Sgts and whats left of the tac guys are handling radio jobs..apps are being taken at the front desk...
Thats's nothing, it's only winter in 011; Sgts. were handling jobs all night on afternoons in the summer when it was really rockin there, people left, got promoted went to units, that includes Sgts. and p.os. still a bunch of ppos tho......
EVERYONE WHO WORKS BUD PARADE SHOULD GET $5,000 BONUS!!
The Bud parade is the 2nd longest parade in the country.....If you are lucky not to be detailed to areas from 49th st to 51th....You're not going to be involved in the mass craziness and lost children,,,,,,,,,,,JUST LONG, alot of unnecessary waiting around doing nothing
Strike shuts down NYC transit system
More than 7 million riders affected
Tuesday, December 20, 2005
NEW YORK (CNN) -- More than 7 million passengers in New York City are having to find a new way of getting to work, do their holiday shopping and run their everyday errands.
For the first time in 25 years, New York's transit workers went on strike early Tuesday, shutting down the nation's largest public transportation system days ahead of Christmas.
The strike brings to a grinding halt Metropolitan Transit Authority buses and subways throughout all five boroughs.
"I think they all should get fired," Eddie Goncalves, a doorman trying to get home after his overnight shift, told The Associated Press. He said he'll likely spend an extra $30 per day in cab and train fares, according to the AP.
City officials have said a transit strike could cost the city as much as $400 million a day. (Read about the economic impact)
"Transit workers are tired of being underappreciated and disrespected," said Roger Toussaint, president of Local 100 of the Transport Workers Union.
The strike defies the Taylor Law, which forbids public employees from walking off the job. The law imposes a fine of two days' pay for each day of an illegal strike.
...link to entire article...
As Henry Hill said in "Goodfellas"... "...Fuck you- Pay Me!" (The P.O.'s, UNITED, can NEVER be Divided! Spill a sip of Egg Nog for tha' Homies who got us our working conditions and can't be here no mo'... the WOBBLIES! - Say it loud, say it proud... "U-N-I-O-N" ! ! !
Can anyone who thinks that the "Buck Billitin" Parade is a viable event which is used to show how proud they are of their heritage, explain why there are over 300 missing children reported in a three hour period????????
Why aren't there 20 missing children at the St. Patrick's Day Parade or the SS Irish parade?
Hmmmm
FOR WHAT ITS WORTH THE GUYS I KNOW THAT DO WORK CTA ARE MOSTLY SENIOR COPPERS WHO ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THEIR QUARTERS FOR SOCIAL SECURITY.I WORKED IT YEARS AGO WHEN THEY JUST STARTED IT UP AND GAVE YOU AN UNMARKED FORD.CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT AT THAT TIME THEY ONLY WANTED 5 OR 8 BUS CHECKS,AND THERE WAS VERY LITTLE IF ANY SUPERVISION.AS USUAL WE SCREWED IT UP OURSELVES,COPPERS WERE TAKING THE CARS TO SUBURBAN MALLS TO DO THEIR SHOPPING AND ALL KINDS OF CRAZY SHIT THAT THE CPD IS CAPABLE OF PULLING OFF.THATS WHEN THEY WENT TO MARKED CARS AND HELD YOU TO A CERTAIN ROUTE,HAVE'NT WORKED IT SINCE.WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING AND WE SCREWED IT UP OURSELVES.DEJA VU!
That's fucked up that they do the TARA by seniority. Godforbid they give it to younger more aggressive guys.
An attorney for one of four men charged with involuntary manslaughter in the 2003 E2 stampede claimed Monday that "racism" and "political expediency" are behind the charges in the tragedy that left 21 dead...
we impeach clinton for banging some broad and lying and Bush goes around taps phones without getting a warrant. What a dog! Impeach Impeach Impeach
12:58 pm
The attorney that you are referring to is none other than R. Eugene Pincham. My first dealings with Pincham go back to 1970 when he defended Cabrini-Green sniper/cop killer Johnny Veal. Veal and George C. Knights remain rotting in the penitentiary.
If you listen to Pincham, he'd probably blame the tsunami in SE Asia on "racism". Ignore him.
Yeah SS Irish parade great detail to freeze your ass off, and watch all the drunk Colleens drop their pants and piss in the alley. Yeah so much better then Bud!
Whar are you talking about in 011. There are plenty of cops in each district, just have the bosses shave the community police office and all those cushy front office jobs.
Anonymous said...
Yeah SS Irish parade great detail to freeze your ass off, and watch all the drunk Colleens drop their pants and piss in the alley. Yeah so much better then Bud!
12/20/2005 01:39:59 PM
True, but you gotta admit that watching "drunk Colleens" drop their pants is a helleva lot better than watching Sheniqua and She'ne'ne' shake their 250 lb. asses, clothed in shorts that wouldn't fit a 4 year old!!!
Actually, just a matter of preference I guess...both crowds examplify the WORST of both cultures!
Hey 6:01 POST. FYI we were invaded on Spet 11 2001 you American Hating cocksucker. If you don't like it here get the fuck out you terrorist supporting dumb fuck. If there is ever another terrorist attack in this country (I pray not) let you be the first. Go to hell you anti American pig.
GO BUSH,GOD BLESS AMERICA.
DEATH TO ALL TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can I get special employment to work 1631 on 3rd watch?
YES YOU CAN, JUST MAKE SURE YOU GO BY THE FAT MAN'S HOUSE ONCE OR TWICE.
Anyone know facts surrounding alleged battery to off duty by 018 district at Cro-bar, or should it be the off-duty who battered bar employees and then got into it with police?
The audit has been done, ask accountability and you will get the real answer. Ask anyone else and you can beLIEve what you may.
Off duty officer gets into it at Crobar with employees, they ask him to leave, he goes outside and gets into with on duty officers (spits in their faces). He then identifies himself as a PO and they tell him to get the fuck out of there. He then goes to 005 and makes out a battery case with him as the victim and gets CR's on guys from 018. What a bitch he is.
Anonymous said...
Off duty officer gets into it at Crobar with employees, they ask him to leave, he goes outside and gets into with on duty officers (spits in their faces). He then identifies himself as a PO and they tell him to get the fuck out of there. He then goes to 005 and makes out a battery case with him as the victim and gets CR's on guys from 018. What a bitch he is.
12/20/2005 05:00:29 PM
Must I say it? Typical mule copper, once an animal always an animal.
At least at the SS Irish parade there's not 200 kids "missing" at any given time! Their mommas drop them off at the field house for hours of free babysitting by the police so they can smoke their rock and drink their forty! How many shootings, rapes, robberies occur at the SS Irish parade?
Worked quite a few Bud Billiken parades, only had to make one pinch....some asshole that got out of line with a girl. Otherwise, never had a complaint except IT'S A LONG FUCKING DAY!
"Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Off duty officer gets into it at Crobar with employees, they ask him to leave, he goes outside and gets into with on duty officers (spits in their faces). He then identifies himself as a PO and they tell him to get the fuck out of there. He then goes to 005 and makes out a battery case with him as the victim and gets CR's on guys from 018. What a bitch he is.
12/20/2005 05:00:29 PM"
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On duty beefs get CR's not Case Reports.
They teach ya that in Sgt's School.
Not when a crime is being alleged. They teach that in sergant's school too.
If our off duty copper went to his district and made the allegation that he was battered by on duty police, a case report would have to be made, naming the coppers as offenders, and a C.R. number obtained. Doesn't matter if anyone believes him at his own district, an allegation was made so this shit needs to be done. Since there is a beating alleged, this will be OPS' problem
Reading all these accounts, I'm inclined to believe the 018 coppers who are on duty over the off duty copper who says he got beat up.
I've been a copper over 20 years and I've never seen a cop tune someone up without some kind of reason. It may be a bad reason, but a reason is always there. So our off duty copper was beaten for no reason? Naaaa, I ain't buying that. And since the story starts as a stinker, I bet it remains a stinker.
If this copper is acting like an asshole now, imagine what kind of asshole he was before he came on the job. Once an asshole, always, and sometimes worse.
Merry Christmas
Anonymous said...
Can anyone who thinks that the "Buck Billitin" Parade is a viable event which is used to show how proud they are of their heritage, explain why there are over 300 missing children reported in a three hour period????????
Why aren't there 20 missing children at the St. Patrick's Day Parade or the SS Irish parade?
Hmmmm
12/20/2005 11:40:28 AM
HEY!!! OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE!!!!
It is cheaper for the the city to hire off duty P.O.s at time and one-half than to just hire more P.O.s to begin with.
That's because they only need to pay them when they need them. They don't have to pay to train them, pay benefits packages and the o.t. is not pensionable.
If overtime, and out-of-grade pay were pensionalbe,
like in NYC, old timers would become born again supercops in the last year. Padding their pensions by racking up late arrests and court time. The city also saves a lot of money paying out-of-grade to people. If acting FTOs, Desk Sgts. and W.C.s got their pension upgraded along with the salary, the city would appoint more FTOs and promote more Sergeants and Captains.
Not going to retire for a long time, you should be able to reclaim your contribution, just as if you dropped being a detective or FTO and went back to being a P.O.
Making O.T. and especially out-of-grade pay pensionable should be high priority pension legislation.
I can see it now...
Sorry Joe, you you made too much O/T in court last month. You got the desk for the next two.
And you are assured only the clout will get the O/T gigs.
9:54 - Sorry to disagree, but a case report is not made out 99 % of the time, when an On Duty copper is involved and his actions are in question. Thats what OPS is for, can you imagine the amount of case reports filed for the alleged beatings and thefts, that less than reputable individuals place on coppers to get even? Especially in this mutts case an RD should have never been pulled.
Why hire off-duty cops? They are all lazy!
Pincham was the biggest racist to ever sit on the bench.All the dogs wanted a bench trial in front of him,he never found a "BRUTHA" guilty on a bench trial,they all walked.
"Anonymous said...
Not when a crime is being alleged. They teach that in sergant's school too.
If our off duty copper went to his district and made the allegation that he was battered by on duty police, a case report would have to be made, naming the coppers as offenders, and a C.R. number obtained. Doesn't matter if anyone believes him at his own district, an allegation was made so this shit needs to be done. Since there is a beating alleged, this will be OPS' problem...Merry Christmas
12/20/2005 09:54:27 PM"
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Wrong Wrong Wrong!
You do not get an RD# for on duty conduct unless an arrest is imminent. This case DOES NOT Qualify! If a case report is needed it will be generated AFTER AN INVESTIGATION has taken place and an arrest in imminent.
Proof:
AMFN Message# 043379 Dated 30-JUN-04 from the ADS of Internal Affairs. You can find this on the IAD Website under Bureau Sites on the Intranet. Go to Facsimiles.
In summary this states that RD#'s will not be obtained for On Duty Conduct unless the arrest of the member is imminent. A Complaint Register Number will be obtained.
Off duty conduct that is criminal requires an RD# AND a CR#.
I was just trying to clarify the proper procedure before your sarcastic response to me that was wrong (i.e. "Not when a crime is being alleged. They teach that in sergant's [sic] school too." If you are going to be sarcastic at least be right like I was. LOL!
Merry Christmas.
I went to sergeant's school before that memo.....you win! I lose! Will my paycheck be withheld?
So..why did an RD get generated? More importantly, why did our offduty copper beef when he was handed such a gift?
I was not involved in that "lesson" but you should have know that. You may have jammmed up a legit copper.
I never had the occasion to have to do that, and I never jammed up some innocent copper. And if a case report is generated for nothing, it will be killed when it gets to the area.
OPS/IAD will handle the investigation on our asshole (pick which one, the on duty 018 coppers or our off duty one....one of them has to be the asshole) and they'll get whats coming to him.
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