Sunday, December 18, 2005

Shorthanded - at the jail

And it seems Chicago isn't the only law enforcement agency operating at below recommended strength. From the Sun-Times:
  • The report by MGT of America concluded that 3,589 correctional officers are needed to properly oversee jail operations. The jail has a roster of 2,791 officers -- 798 fewer than necessary
And how did they arrive at this figure? From a 1996 Federal Consent Decree as a result of a lawsuit filed by inmates who claimed the staffing levels were too low for the number of detainees. So the inmates really are running the asylum over at County.

87 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know a lot of CPD don't give a shit about correctional officers, but I wouldn't want that shit job. Got to give them credit for that much at least.

12/18/2005 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please rest in Peace.
A2 VC Detective commited sucide last night. Retired dick took a lot of bs from Half hear and Jevic
Eng----. Mike are U happy.

12/18/2005 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rest in Peace George, U were the best, myheart reaches out for U.

12/18/2005 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

George:

Every time I shot a man U were there for me. Please RIP.

U and Phil AKA Angelo were the best dicks in Chicago, we will never ever be the detective U were, I know ure soul is in heaven with Kynitee, Fahey, O brien and Bri-Strouse.

If your Buried IN Holy Cross I promise I will take of Ure grave.

I find solace by myself taking care of the graves of my heroes
U were the best and I will never forget U. I hope Ure daughter lays U to rest in St Marys or Holy Sep.

God I will miss ure legacy, the bitterness when we were crucifed by patrol. RIP the DOG, created on the 8th day, to do the LORDS work. 2030. Add a digit. The Laoise boy. DOG

12/18/2005 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone said another retired officer, a sergeant, also took his life. Sad.

12/18/2005 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its a sad thing always. Never let anything on this job get to you. Reach out to a friend. Theres always a way out with friends and family. God bless our departed brothers and sisters of C.P.D..

12/18/2005 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was the Area 2 guy? Have anything to do with the Burge bullshit they put all these guys through? That jagoff ex-Gov Ryan should do the dutch act for all this BS!

12/18/2005 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I know a lot of CPD don't give a shit about correctional officers, but I wouldn't want that shit job. Got to give them credit for that much at least.

12/18/2005 01:47:10 AM"

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CPD officers that came on in the 1970's and 80's don't give a shit. They were if you ask them the "real police" and people that worked for CCDOC were just "jail guards." Their Chests would swell up as they demeaned a CO as "just a guard" and handed him/her his/her copy of a personal service citation.

There are now MANY CPD Officers that once worked for CCDOC! I don't think as many officers now demean CCDOC officers like they did when parts of CCDOC was the City of Chicago House of Corrections."

A lot of problems stemmed from that merger with CCDOC because of the friction between CPD and the House of Correction.

12/18/2005 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:12 I have over 29 years, where oh where do you come up with this nonsense?????

12/18/2005 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you remember the house of correction?

Have you ever been on the receiving end of a tirade by a CPD officer? If not it ain't nonsense.

12/18/2005 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A jail guard is just a jail guard. AND deserve no play.

12/18/2005 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
10:12 I have over 29 years, where oh where do you come up with this nonsense?????

12/18/2005 11:50:31 AM

Yes, but have you ever worked at CCDOC and been on the receiving end of the lack of respect thrown at CCDOC officers by our very own?

12/18/2005 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A jail guard is just a jail guard. AND deserve no play.

12/18/2005 12:15:52 PM

I rest my case 29 and 1/2 years.

12/18/2005 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a correction, the City house of correction merged with Cook County Jail.

12/18/2005 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC said:

"
And how did they arrive at this figure? From a 1996 Federal Consent Decree as a result of a lawsuit filed by inmates who claimed the staffing levels were too low for the number of detainees. So the inmates really are running the asylum over at County.
"

Let me get this straight...the inmates sued that there were not enough guards???

12/18/2005 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A jail guard is just a jail guard. AND deserve no play.

12/18/2005 12:15:52 PM

That statement tells me one of the following apply to you:

1. You're an ex-correctional officer yourself, and now you're on the job here so you don't care.
2. You're a jagoff.

Personally, I think it's number 2. It's a shit job working in the jail with nothing but a star and radio. They don't even have a club. You try the job for a while, then tell me if they deserve any respect or not. And no, I'm not a correctional officer, I'm on the job here in Chicago.

12/18/2005 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bingo we have an answer!

12/18/2005 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is John Burge from Florida. Still enjoying retirement down here as you schmucks try to clean up all the shit I left you.

Happy Holidays!!!

12/18/2005 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are all political hacks, dirt bags with phone calls. Why they carry guns outside of the jail when they can't inside. They have NO arrest powers so screw them!

12/18/2005 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Theres another reason for not allowing off-duty or retired carry. THEY USUALLY BLOW THEIR BRAINS OUT!!!

12/18/2005 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
They are all political hacks, dirt bags with phone calls. Why they carry guns outside of the jail when they can't inside. They have NO arrest powers so screw them!

12/18/2005 02:41:40 PM"

Wrong. They are Deputy Sheriffs. Guess again slick! They do have have arrest powers. You do know the definition of Peace Officer right?

Another Chicago P.D. know-it-all.

Do our lock-up keepers carry their guns in the lock-up? Do YOU carry your gun into the Lock-up? Do YOU even wear your gun in the new interview room when processing an arrestee?

Why do YOU need a gun then?

You don't know Jack.

12/18/2005 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I worked for CCDOC, I filled out a form from the IL Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers Training Board which asked if we had "full police powers." Take a guess which box we checked!

The last time I checked Full Police Powers meant power of Arrest. Go read up on the law or maybe study harder for the Detective's Exam 'Cause Brother, you don't have the skills!

12/18/2005 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 2:43.....you are an asshole!!!!!

12/18/2005 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes thats why those siily ass off-duty sheriffs(jail Guards always CALL US WHEN THEY STEP IN SHIT! you make the stop you do the job, butthead!

12/18/2005 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THOSE DEPUTIES ARE ALL COP WANT-A-BE'S They couldn't pass the test so they ring door bells for some political hack to get that jail-guard job, THEY SUCK!

12/18/2005 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its Jon Burge not John Burge

12/18/2005 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jail guards are just that, jail guards.

Goofy Sheriff Elrod deputized them long ago. I think Elrod was brain damaged worse then we thought when he tried to tackle Weatherman, Brian Flanigan and missed. What a mistake!

I have no problem letting law abiding citizens including jail guards carry concealed weapons.

Giving jail guards police powers is another issue. If jail guards want to be cops then they shouldleave the jail, qualify and become cops.

Jail guards are not cops. The term correctional officer was created to improve the poor self image of jail guards. Remember jail guards spend at least a third of their lives in jail. Theyre really just glorified jail birds.

Sorry I have to call a spade a spade.

12/18/2005 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take care of my own: POLICE OFFICERS.

I'm sick of all you bitches giving every ASA, Jail guard, mall security, national guardsmen, cubs scout leader a play.

The latter should all be taken care of on a case-by-case basis.

We don't OWE them anything.

I take care of OUR own.

12/18/2005 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
THOSE DEPUTIES ARE ALL COP WANT-A-BE'S They couldn't pass the test so they ring door bells for some political hack to get that jail-guard job, THEY SUCK!

12/18/2005 03:20:10 PM"

I was more than able to pass the the test. I have your job. I know your job; and, you still don't know anything about working in the jail or what it involves.

In fact I even make more money than you do. How about that ACE?

By the way Francis, its "wanna-be."

Also this funny little thing here ; is a semi-colon. You do know how to use one, right smart guy?

BWAHAHAHAHA!

12/18/2005 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Jail guards are just that, jail guards.

Goofy Sheriff Elrod deputized them long ago. I think Elrod was brain damaged worse then we thought when he tried to tackle Weatherman, Brian Flanigan and missed. What a mistake!

I have no problem letting law abiding citizens including jail guards carry concealed weapons.

Giving jail guards police powers is another issue. If jail guards want to be cops then they shouldleave the jail, qualify and become cops.

Jail guards are not cops. The term correctional officer was created to improve the poor self image of jail guards. Remember jail guards spend at least a third of their lives in jail. Theyre really just glorified jail birds.

Sorry I have to call a spade a spade.

12/18/2005 03:23:22 PM"

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Let me guess you have 30 years on right?

No they are not cops in that their primary responsibility is not patrol or investigations but they are Peace Officers and as such have arrest powers, like it or not.

It is what it is.

12/18/2005 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am guessing that all of these CCDOC bashers are old school officers and the situation is just like I stated. Those that came on in the 70's and 80's. That's where I got my info Mr. Officer with More than 29 Years.

12/18/2005 03:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Yes thats why those siily ass off-duty sheriffs(jail Guards always CALL US WHEN THEY STEP IN SHIT! you make the stop you do the job, butthead!

12/18/2005 03:17:42 PM"

Kind of like when we call the on-duty police when we take some sort of action right? Who do you think the on-duty police are when they are in Chicago Slick?

12/18/2005 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 12/18/2005 12:36:12 PM

Yes, the inmates sued claiming there weren't enough jail gaurds to protect them from the gangs running the place.

12/18/2005 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Sheriff Sheahan said...

I am a former jailguard and am now CPD. The jail should be privatized and kick all those political hacks or shitbirg gangbangers back out in street. What do the need a gun for? Its not like the old days even 10 years ago when I was there when one could crack heads, its all about social working. The administartion bends over backwards for the scum in jail I know I saw it. The jailguards were gangbangers!!!!! Fuck em and I know I would lock them up if I had chance. Do you have any idea the waste going on in jail? They make a good buck babysitting which some 7.50 mule could do with no benefits!!!!!

12/18/2005 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sheriff Sheahan said...
I am a former jailguard and am now CPD. The jail should be privatized and kick all those political hacks or shitbirg gangbangers back out in street. What do the need a gun for? Its not like the old days even 10 years ago when I was there when one could crack heads, its all about social working. The administartion bends over backwards for the scum in jail I know I saw it. The jailguards were gangbangers!!!!! Fuck em and I know I would lock them up if I had chance. Do you have any idea the waste going on in jail? They make a good buck babysitting which some 7.50 mule could do with no benefits!!!!!

12/18/2005 04:14:01 PM"

Things I have determined from reading YOUR post.

You are a shitbag gangbanger and a political hack that never carried a concealed firearm while you worked for the CCDOC. Using the logic you posted it must be true. You worked in the Jail but Am I to believe that you are neither a Gangbanger nor a Political Hack.

Oh wait not you, someone else.

Waste goes on everywhere.

12/18/2005 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"anonymous said...

They make a good buck babysitting which some 7.50 mule could do with no benefits!!!!!
12/18/2005 04:14:01 PM"

Hmmm that gives me an idea Let's privatize the police department while we are at it. We can get people to do our jobs for free without benefits they are called reserves. People are more than willing to come and do our job on a part time basis free of charge. We can hire all part-timers and get rid of our pensions and Medical Coverage.

You are a moron.

12/18/2005 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous I love my gangbangin Jail Guard! said...

I loves them JG's in division 10, they always give me an extra nemo and rec whenever I want. Still working on haircuts but hey where else can I hangout with my GD brothers(jail guards) and finger pop? Merry Kwanzaa from Rip, J-Love, and Icky holla at your boys!

12/18/2005 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Privatization in 2006 for the jail! Now thats a slogan everyone can get behind.

12/18/2005 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALWAYS WRITE THOSE SHERIFFS TICKETS! THEY ARE ALL DIRT-BAGS! Give them parkers or movers anytime you can!

12/18/2005 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That retired area 2 det. was probably shot by one of those sheriff jailguards!

12/18/2005 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's your opinion on the Sheriff's Police?

12/18/2005 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

The Cook County Sheriff's Police are just that, police. They are trained as cops and work as cops.

The Deputies on the other hand are process servers, bailiffs, and court security people. Paid less with fewer qualifications. Sometimes some deputies and even jail guards are assigned to work on assignments other than patrol with the real Sheriff's police

The jail guards are baby sitters. The only halfway good assignment at the jail is in prisoner transportation which used to be handled by the Sheriff's Police and some deputies. The jail guards do come out with their wagons for emergencies and assist the real police.

Not all jail guards or deputies are dopes. Many of them are though.

The dream of the deputies and jail guards is some sheriff will come in and make them all equal. Ha Ha!

12/18/2005 07:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to work at ccdoc. It was a rotten job. Over 3 years of being locked up with the animals. The deputized correctional officers deserve respect. Alot of the pussies on this job would be scared to go walk a tier. They have their rotten apples just like we do in CPD.

Now getting to SCC's question. The inmates sued to get more correctional officers so they can have more movement. Less officers means more lockdowns, less yard, less recroom, etc, etc. More officers means more activities.

The inmates could care less about the officers trying to control them. The jail is just like the police dept. Your not allowed to do your job anymore. Tuneing up a bigmouth or a policer fighter is a thing of the past. They see dollar signs while they r in county. Try to pick a fight with a sheriff and await a payday when he hits back.

12/18/2005 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember you from 012 Crimefile! Where have you been? I sent you an e-mail from your bolg. Good to see you Paul!

12/18/2005 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy shit those are great videos on Crimefile's blog! How funny!

12/18/2005 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just made 07:21 post without reading all the remarks. I see everyday why everybody hates us.

Write the Sheriffs, write the suburban police. What a bunch of assholes.

No wonder I got such a hardtime from the Sheriff's Police when I got pulled over. The sheriff must have gotten pulled over by some 5'6" 300 lb fatass on our job who said your aern't the real police. We have no shortage of men and women like that.

12/18/2005 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I attended the cook county metro police academy at triton college when i was a suburban copper. 7 or 8 guys were jail guards and 1 guy was a court services deputy. Two of the guys were normal guys, the rest were fucking retards, but all were clout heavy.

The one thing I remember was that the cook county instructors (both in-house and visitors) used every opportunity to bad mouth and criticize chicago police officers. To this day I believe it was a BIG inferiority complex. Jealousy. Hating. Whatever.

When I attended CPD's academy, the word "Cook County" rarely came up, and recruits that had been jail guards were glad to be gone. I never heard them demanding respect.

I'll still look out for the sheriff's police, because they are police, but that complex IS there. It doesn't help the matter when we have so many CPD coppers that belittle them, but hey fair is fair.

12/18/2005 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:23 Everyone in the state has police powers, that is power to effect an arrest.So which powers are you talking about? Sorry to burst your bubble. Those guys should be able to carry guns, they see more bad guys than any of our thousands of armed clerks who work inside.

12/18/2005 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:41 They are sworn peace officers, granted power by the state as Deputies. Learn what you are talking about before you make a further ass of yourself.

12/18/2005 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

There are police powers well outside of a citizen's arrest that only peace officers have. Obtaining and serving search warrants is the best example.

We could really solve a lot of nonsense just by giving the law abiding the power to carry a gun without handing over police powers too.

There are many thousands of deputy sheriffs and deputy coroners in the state of Illinois simply to get around really bad gun laws. This creates a lot of confusion trying to figure out just who is the real police.

12/18/2005 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, Like I said...Thumping their chests and real police this and real police that while passing out the Personal Service Citation.


I am sure saying it outloud makes you feel better about yourself.

12/18/2005 09:48:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

When I was on the job, I would never write a jail guard, prison guard, probation or parole officer as long as they were polite and friendly.

That's if there were not multiple violations, dui, a PI accident or other criminal activity

12/18/2005 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im sorry but i will not put them down. I will give my opinion on their arrest powers. Their power of arrest are the same of any citizen in cook county. They can place a person under arrest(citizen)and to help them out they have a star and pistol,but they would have to sign a complaint like every other citizen and the real police would have to process the arrest and give the correction officer the court date,location and time to appear just like any other CITIZEN. When they get their own court key, arrest reports, court branch, holding facility,etc.. will I see them as the police. Sorry guys think what you want, prove me wrong go affect a arrest and handle the whole process without getting cpd or any other police dept. involved in the arrest.

12/19/2005 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've never written a peace officer, be he local, county, state or fed. And I never gave sheriff's officers, be they police, corrections, or deputies shit either.

Jagoffs like 12/18/2005 05:29:20 PM, and let me repeat that again please....JAGOFFS....are the kind of assholes that cause grief for all the city coppers. Write one suburban copper and you think you're cute. Now that copper goes back to his suburb and tells everyone there what jagoffs we city coppers are. Now every city copper going through that suburb has to deal with the grief that Mr. JAGOFF caused.

You think your shit doesn't stink because you're a city copper, well let me tell you, it does. You're just another cop, no better no worse, maybe more experienced but that's it. Being a correctional officer is a shit job. I give them respect. If they're assholes, I'll treat them like assholes, just like I'd treat any other ASSHOLE, but I don't look down on them because their star doesn't say Chicago Police.

Merry Christmas to all those who are not fucking prima donnas...and the rest go fuck yourself.

12/19/2005 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I AGREE WITH THIS

12/19/2005 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

regarding jail guards deserving professional courtesy:

there was a shithead the 011 dist wagon guys were transporting that somehow got away with one cuff on over the summer. where did he run? to a cook county corrections "officer".

and what would this fine sworn man do, you may ask? with one catch he would take off the cuff. if he could keep them the cuff was off, since they were stamped "CPD". did he do it? damned right he did. now he's where he worked; jail.

keep giving those gangbangers play.

12/19/2005 03:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
regarding jail guards deserving professional courtesy:

there was a shithead the 011 dist wagon guys were transporting that somehow got away with one cuff on over the summer. where did he run? to a cook county corrections "officer".

and what would this fine sworn man do, you may ask? with one catch he would take off the cuff. if he could keep them the cuff was off, since they were stamped "CPD". did he do it? damned right he did. now he's where he worked; jail.

keep giving those gangbangers play.

12/19/2005 03:39:27 AM

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Do we really want to start citing examples?

We have a few of our own don't we?

Be careful what you wish for, you might get it along with a whole lot of egg on your face.

12/19/2005 05:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a Chicago copper on the scene of an arrest....and you know what he did? He took the arrestees cash and credit cards, then went shopping. He bought gift cards with the credit card and then spent them. And now he's locked up!

How about the Englewood coppers from the begginning of the year? They're in shit now because they protected dope peddlers and sold dope themselves!

Want me to go on about stupid CHICAGO coppers? Don't paint correctional officers, or any other peace officers for that matter by the actions of the asshole few. If you do, then remember all the jagoffs we have on our job.

12/19/2005 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank You to the last few posts. Every dept has jagoffs. The CCDOC had more than their fair share when I worked there. That being said there r good people who work there. We should give respect to those who give it.

Its not like any of us haven't pulled over one of our own who was drunk and beligerent. I pulled over a guy from my own dist when I was on midnites. He Mother Fu#*ed me and tried to drive away. No outside agency has ever tried that with me.

I will never be the kettle calling the pot black.

12/19/2005 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes,I think that cop who stole those credit cards was an ex-county guy. You see it all the time. The county guys let inmates old ladies carry in dope for a blow-job,or they deal it themselves cause they be Vice Lords or one of those other jail gangs.

12/19/2005 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:50 When you make your off duty arrest anywhere else but Chicago, you will be doing the same thing. Your arrestee will be processed by the officers in that jurisdiction and you will sign complaints and go to their court. Sorry, but this is just a job, not a mandate from God. Regarding actions by off duty CC personell, yes many are clowns. However, people in glass houses.....

12/19/2005 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the insecure losers that derive their entire self worth from this job. I'm better than you because I'm from CPD,TRU,011,NAGIS,DET.DIV, etc. Tools one and all! But I do love when you wear you pancacke holster to the bar and make it look like your gun is "accidently" peeking out from undr your shirt. Just screaming "I have a tiny weenie and got beat up every day in high school."

12/19/2005 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I derive my entire self worth from this job. I am a loser and I am better than every one else because I work in (fill in blank with TRU,011, Det. Div., Patrol, cpd etc.)Oh, by the way I have a 1" dick and got beat up every day in school.

12/19/2005 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 12:50 neg once again you are wrong if I effect an arrest off-duty I must process the arrest and fill ouit a o.t. slip no other p.o. will get involved in the processing of a arrest a p.o. effected off-duty, but has to proceess it for a correctional or deputy sheriff.

12/19/2005 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Sheriffs are not police said...

Take their guns away. They are not police dont pretend that they are. Tell them they arent police if you stop them. If you work in 00 write them tickets off California for parking violations. Burst their little bubbles.

12/19/2005 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous beats 1033 and 1034 said...

12:48

Go see a shrink. You're soft as baby shit.

Burst your own "little bubbles" in your bathtub.

12/19/2005 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Division 9, and no love for JG's said...

Sheriffs are not police said...
Take their guns away. They are not police dont pretend that they are. Tell them they arent police if you stop them. If you work in 00 write them tickets off California for parking violations. Burst their little bubbles.

12/19/2005 12:48:23 PM

I agree with you on that point. JG's are babysitters nothing more than that. I understand they think they are the police but in fact the are over paid zoo keepers. I worked for CCDOC and never once did I tell anyone I was the police or claim to be. Come on if you came from there you have to have seen all the BS, gangbanger JG's, and waste of money in that jail, and if not you must have had your eyes closed hoping that the animals wouldnt hurt you.

12/19/2005 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
to 12:50 neg once again you are wrong if I effect an arrest off-duty I must process the arrest and fill ouit a o.t. slip no other p.o. will get involved in the processing of a arrest a p.o. effected off-duty, but has to proceess it for a correctional or deputy sheriff.

12/19/2005 12:28:21 PM"

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What would happen if a Oak Park copper made an arrest in Chicago?

Same freakin thing as if a Deputy/Corrections Officer did.

You would handle the paperwork if assigned. Whoever handles the paperwork does not a peace officer make.

The law does.

Get your head out of your ass!

12/19/2005 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Division 9, and no love for JG's said...

I agree with you on that point. JG's are babysitters nothing more than that. I understand they think they are the police but in fact the are over paid zoo keepers. I worked for CCDOC and never once did I tell anyone I was the police or claim to be. Come on if you came from there you have to have seen all the BS, gangbanger JG's, and waste of money in that jail, and if not you must have had your eyes closed hoping that the animals wouldnt hurt you.

12/19/2005 05:04:56 PM"

I know you just told everyone that you were a Deputy Sheriff Peace Officer. Maybe you said you were a "Peace Officer." I am sure you carried your firearm off-duty.

I am also sure that it took you 20 answers to questions to get you to finally admit that you worked in the jail because once you admitted it the berating would begin.

Once again, which were you a politcal hack or a gangbanger?

I have to ask because of your obviously high opinion of CCDOC and the broadbrush you cast about the personnel.

There are good and bad in all jobs and I knew PLENTY of good people that work at CCDOC. People that I would be honored to work with out on the street.

Yes, a lot of the people that worked at CCDOC have a HUGE inferiority complex but that is because they are constantly berated by people like some on this blog.

That job is thankless and it sucks!

Most people that work there are NOT gangbangers.

Most are people just trying to make a living like you & me.

Where is the love?

12/19/2005 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Peace Officer may make arrests, but a Police Officer handles everything.

If a Deputy Sheriff or Correctional Officer makes an arrest, they need a POLICe officer to process the arrest. A Sheriff's Police Officer may handle everything themselves.

Should a Chicago Police Officer make an arrest outside of the city, they have to rely on the town of jurisdiction, or the Cook County Sheriff's POLICE to handle the paperwork.

But all that bullshit aside, I reiterate my previous statements. Prima Donnas go fuck yourselves! Everyone else, Merry Christmas.


A Chicago Copper

12/19/2005 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can handle everything myself! You sound like a fucking 2 year old. Who cares? Ohhh, I'm so mad that I'm not the only little dick motherfucker that gets to carry a gun! Get a fucking life douche bag.

12/19/2005 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous 11:16:

Go fuck yourself!

Respectfully,

Me

12/19/2005 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Problem: Jail guards crying about not getting any re-spect...from anyone.

Solution: Save the drama for your mama and open up your own fucking blog. This is a CHICAGO POLICE blogspot. We have our own crying to do.

12/20/2005 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey smart ass still prove me wrong. Make a arrest in chicago and process it yourself, you cant. I can in the city or town i am the police in or any copper in their respective town. You cant!! you know why because you are not the police in any town, let me type this slower for you to understand since your dumb ass couldnt pass the cpd entrance exam, P O L I C E !!!!M-xas jail gaurd or baliff.

12/20/2005 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello to the haters of the Sheriff's. Especially to the CPD members who dislike Cook County Correctional Officers. Do you realize that the Chicago Police Department Utilizes the Cook County Sheriff’s Office “CCDOC” Gang intelligence unit to gather information and sometimes overt possible violence before it starts? Do you realize that the CCDOC is an untapped resource of not only information but outstanding Officers who know more law and ways to make the law work for them than a Chicago Police Officer? Do you know that the majority of Gang intelligence information that is used by our department is received from members of the CCDOC. I wish you could understand that all Departments utilize the CCDOC to gather information on ongoing criminal narcotics/ gang conspiracies committed throughout the City of Chicago and the outlying suburbs as well as the United States. I am a former member of the CCDOC and am currently a CPD Criminal Gang investigator. I along with many veteran Officers have utilized the resources and intelligence supplied by members of the CCDOC. This information has yielded numerous arrests and incitements of active criminal gang members throughout the city and county. I can only hope you do not use the false pretense of Law Enforcement Officers title to disclude them from their true potential as allies against the fight against the criminal element. I can understand your belief that all Correctional Officers/Deputy Sheriffs are patronage lackeys, but the majority of these Officers are doing the job of Law Enforcement and in fact are not political at all. Do I need I remind you of how many CPD Officers are currently locked up in CCDOC or Federal Institutions? Don’t forget about the CPD personnel that are awaiting investigation, be it administrative or criminal. The majority of my brothers who are stuck waiting to be hired by our great institution (CPD), but for unknown reasons they seem to be “passed over” because of the hierarchy that chooses to select the “Chosen Ones” over the “Well Qualified Ones”. Hey, doesn’t that sound like political influence here? Could that mean that we have some lackeys on CPD as well as controlling the selection process? As a former CCDOC Member, I have never come across a Sheriff’s Employee electing for favoritism, due to his employment, but I have encountered numerous Sheriff Employees who have voluntarily gave information or assistance to CPD in the spirit of “catching the bad guy” Oh, by the way, if you are a “REAL COPPER” you would understand that off duty Sheriff’s Employees are not able to complete CPD arrest reports or case reports, because they are “OFF DUTY” and are not required to complete City reports, just as Off Duty CPD are not required to complete reports outside the City Of Chicago. Think about that. CPD Coppers off duty i.e.: working a second job, have the on duty POLICE do their paperwork. I hope you are not that negative or SCARED that another agency is doing your job for you on your beat. Do you realize that guys off duty are saving you and the rest of the department from solving crimes? This is just the tip of the iceberg. My Opinions here are just that…..mine. What we should focus upon is teamwork and professionalism between agencies rather that having animosity toward each other. I know of many CPD Officers who won’t even step near the Jail (this goes back years too). You have to realize during my tenure as a CCDOC employee I have observed many falsely accused CPD Officers incarcerated and sent to jail. All were given the professional courtesy needed to keep them safeguarded away from the animals. Only those who have been placed in that position will only know the true professional courtesy they received. And as my final thought……I seem to prefer to work with someone who came from the CCDOC rather than some liberal who knows it all right out of the academy. Call me an ex-Jail Guard if you want, but I know I made more real felony arrests than you can ever know. I hope one day you can be educated enough out of the true spirit of Law Enforcement………WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN BLUE.

12/20/2005 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Hey smart ass still prove me wrong. Make a arrest in chicago and process it yourself, you cant. I can in the city or town i am the police in or any copper in their respective town. You cant!! you know why because you are not the police in any town, let me type this slower for you to understand since your dumb ass couldnt pass the cpd entrance exam, P O L I C E !!!!M-xas jail gaurd or baliff.

12/20/2005 12:49:30 AM"

___________________________________

Hey slick, I passed the Entrance exam AND passed the Detective's Exam, AND passed the Sergeant's Exam...Shall I go on.

Enjoy your career in a beat car. You obviously deserved it...real police! You are obviously smart enough to pass the entrance exam, but can't spell GUARD or BAILIFF. Your reports must be a pleasure to read.

Please go out there and continue to make us proud with your wisdom.

The REAL POLICE....that can process his own arrest but can't spell his way out of a paper bag.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Merry Christmas, you illiterate twit! You make me proud. Now go write that mover!

12/20/2005 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all the "real police" who love to bash everyone else on this blog: Fuck you! To everyone else: Merry Christmas.

A Chicago Copper

12/20/2005 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is 11:16... Iam also CPD and a Sergeant, but unlike you, carrying a gun around is not my life. Get some self esteem (and an education) you petty little man.

12/20/2005 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geeze Dude, Take a chill pill. I think you are jealous of some of those "Jail Guards". I was a Jail Guard" 10 years before I came to the Police Department. Some of those guys are my best friends. I don't know what all the hostility is about. So there are a few bad apples. We have them too. Put your hostility toward something else, like Police work.

And Ill tell ya this. I see it all the time. You the big mouth "REAL POLICE" little guy probably picked a fight with a "Jail Guard" and probably got your ass beat. And you being your arrogant self called the beat car and cried foul and tried to have him locked up because your feelings were hurt.

You put a guy/Girl down because of the scope of their employment?

We need to get along with every department and treat everything on a case by case basis. That’s pert of the reason we have such a hard time in Wisconsin and Ohio and now Schaumburg.

If the off duty guy/girl is an asshole……..fuck ‘em. If they are cool, use some discretion. Ya never know when the professional courtesy train will make a stop by your house.

Oh and by the way…..85% of the Sheriff’s Police came from the Jail.

And if you wanna know who I am go to 2452 Belmont and go in the back door. Im on the second floor 2n door from the right.

12/21/2005 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Area 3? HAHA

Well then your comments don't count anyway.

12/21/2005 04:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Comments from Area 3 don't count! Hmmm, that must mean Area 3 aren't the "real police." So oh wise ones, just who the hell is the "real police?" Just want to know if I count or not, or should I just stick my head in the bathtub and end it all now....since I've been kidding myself all this time.

And NO, I'm not going to stick my head in the bathtub, but I wouldn't mind putting my foot in the ass of a few prima donnas.

Merry Christmas

12/21/2005 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous alice said...

So, let me get this right. CCDOC are not the real police because if they make an arrest in the city, they can't do the paperwork....
So, they make an arrest, and some other lackey (I mean "RRRREAL Police") gets stuck with the paperwork....

One point for CCDOC.

12/22/2005 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, CCDOC officers are not police, they are peace officers. Speaking for myself, that doesn't mean anything derogatory.

Also in my opinion, those who say they are the "real police" are assholes. That means they are better than those who are not the "real police" i.e. the wrong unit, wrong district, wrong suburban department, wrong sheriff's department, wrong state police.

If you do the job, you're the real thing and you don't need to explain yourself to any "real police" asshole. Another name for "real police" is prima donna, and prima donnas can go fuck themselves.

Merry Christmas

A Chicago Copper

12/22/2005 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen...That's exactly what I said previously.

12/22/2005 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to set the record straight. There is a difference between the Correctional Officers/Deputy Sheriff's and the Sheriff's Police. To be a Correctional Officer or Deputy you need a High School Diploma/GED and after the academy your a State of Illinois certified Correctional Officer. There is no Deputy Sheriff certification in Illinois. To become a Sheriff's Police Officer you have to be a Correctional Officer or a Deputy for atleast (1) year and have an Associates Degree to take a PROMOTIONAL exam. Then you attend a POLICE academy that certifies you as a LAW ENFORCEMENT officer. I'm tired of all the Deputies/Jail guards pretending to be the police because they are definitely not. The gang information that is provided to the Chicago Police from the CCDOC comes from the SHERIFFS POLICE OFFICERS assigned to the gang team inside the jail. NOT THE JAIL GUARDS. The reason POLICE OFFICERS in Chicago do not give jail guards breaks is due to their mouths. Just because the Sheriff decided to provide you with a handgun does not make you the POLICE. Jail Guards in Will County do not carry. Your right to carry depends on the Sheriff. So hopefully Tom Dart will take that away. Tired of Jail Guards and Bailiffs shooting at one another. Just face it your a jail guard and your peace powers are limited. How many of you jail guards/bailiffs would know what to do if you had someone in custody. The Deputies/Jail guards are assigned to certain units like electronic monitoring and serve warrants. Thats only due to the fact the Sheriff takes care of his political hacks that cant pass the police test. FYI the Deputy Sheriff's in other Counties are state certified LAW ENFORCEMENT Officers (POLICE). In Cook County the Police Department is separated by Law due to the size of the Jail/court services.

12/25/2005 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Sheriff's Police Officer's badge says Sheriff's Police on it. Anything that doesn't say Sheriff's Police are wanna-be POLICE OFFICERS.

Police Officer (or Rank)
Sheriff's Police
County Seal
Star Number
Cook County
Anything else no matter what they tell you doesn't belong to the Police Department. There is only (1) badge for the Sheriff's Police.

12/25/2005 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are well informed (10:39). Yes, the Cook County Sheriff is divided into three branches. This was brought about under Richard Ogilvie. Any county with a population over one million (read Cook) has to have three branches.

Most of the smaller counties only have deputy sheriffs. A deputy can work in the courts, jail or the street, but all are the same.

And YES, there are a lot of correctional offices who are assholes. But I've posted here before, not all of them. When you paint them all with the same brush, you're no differant than the assholes who say all Chicago cops are crooks and thieves because of that asshole in 013, the assholes in 007, shit, the assholes we have everywhere.

I will continue to treat CCDOC and all members of the sheriff's department as professionals. I wouldn't want to be in the courts all day or work the jail. Assholes get treated like assholes, but I don't assume anyone is an asshole just because they work for the sheriff.

Did you work in the jail before you wound up wherever you are now? I obviously don't know, but your posting has all the airs of a jagoff who got his and now wants to forget where he came from. IF that is the case, you're a jagoff.

IF that is not the case, then you're just an asshole. But then, all of us are assholes from time to time.

A Chicago cop

12/26/2005 11:46:00 AM  

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