Thursday, December 15, 2005

OK, This is Definitely "Odd"

We're not one to see conspiracies everywhere, but this deserves comment and actually HAS been commented on in previous threads. What the hell is going on in the 011th District? We can see people across the city in what would be called "statistical ties" whereby 6 people (or even 20 or 30) people among the 4,500 or more who took the test scoring identically. There are plenty of smart people on this job.

But 6 people from the same office in the 011th District AND the relative of one of the 6 AND possibly one or more people DETAILED OUT of the same office in 011? Sorry, this doesn't wash. This deserves an investigation or at the very least, an explanation. There is NO WAY POSSIBLE that 9 people this closely associated were able to all score well enough to make it into the first class of detectives. We don't care HOW WELL they studied and if they all studied together. Coupled with the fact that seniority has been the tie-breaker in so many of the past few exams, the abundance of young coppers on that list raises even more questions. The only possibility we see is that 2 made it on score and the rest were merit? But that seems very far fetched that they'd burn all their merit picks in one district.

We are hereby calling on the city to immediately RELEASE the test results of the 51 people promoted and sit down with a NEUTRAL qualified Actuary to figure out the statistic possibility AND THE STATISTICAL IMPROBABILITY of these results. The FOP ought to be asking the same damn questions or it's going to look very suspicious, not to mention the Federal Hiring Monitor supposedly looking over this whole process (we are doubting she even knows a new test existed - the city probably just showed her a list and told her they were taking the numerical scores without explaining how 9 people associated with the 011th District tact/gang office were making the first class).

Perhaps our retired Sergeant with the statistics about the crooked Lieutenant's test would like to weigh in? Or perhaps someone with a little "inside information" about the "sooper-sekret" study group downtown would like to expound on their theory? Because it seems like the "sooper-sekret" group might have been from 011 and NOT 35th Street.

139 Comments:

Anonymous No way on this One said...

Good Luck

12/15/2005 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CLOUT,CLOUT, AND MORE CLOUT.

Where is Markey and the FOP? This was amazing.

12/15/2005 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MANY people had the answers, not just 011 or 35th.

12/15/2005 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think there should be affirmative action for everyone that doesn't work in 011... they get everything they want. they are spoiled...

or maybe they just earn it.

12/15/2005 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc, what you doing here? trying to make this job legit??

12/15/2005 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the large amount of people from 011 on the dicks list. I just figured they scored well. To hear that they r all on tact/gangs is suspicious. I know Phil loves the westside but I doubt they could all be merit.

I don't know if they had the answers but I would wonder if they had the questions. If they studied the questions together they would come up with a consensus on how to answer giving them all the same score.

It is very interesting. We know they r working coppers being from 011. Hate to see it not be legit.

I don't want the test thrown out. I ranked in the high 200's and have a great chance to make it. We shall see.

12/15/2005 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CANCER CLUSTER IN 011!!! SEND IN THE E.P.A.!!!

Statistically impossible?

Dick Devine's kid in the group? One guy brought it home to his sister?

What are the odds?

12/15/2005 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, I don't know any of these cops, but in 011 or any other district there are good cops and dogs. It's ridiculous to have people dismiss what is on its face an apparent ethical violation by saying-"they're from 011, they earned it." There are thousands of good cops in all parts of the city, and working in 011 doesn't give you the right to cheat.

12/15/2005 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last I heard, retired Sgt. Northern, the examscam sleuth, is spending Christmas out in Marin County, CA. He went up to San Quentin for a Tookie party.

12/15/2005 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know who the merits were? If they're all from 011 and the girls from 023 then it's just clout. If not, then the study group had the test, plain and simple.

12/15/2005 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whhaaa! Whhaaa! Blah! Blah!

This site is like sitting in a cage car with 18 bitter assholes.

12/15/2005 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and one retard

12/15/2005 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How could it be proven if they did have the test prior to test date? You would have to look at all their
test booklets and see if they all used the same "key words" or answers. Very tough to do. And they cant throw out the test results or tear the list down because of all the people who studied and did not have the answers. Back to the DOC area.

12/15/2005 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know some of those guys in 011 and they are good guys, they deserve it. As for devine I went to academy with him and hes agood guy also he could have went anywhere in this deptartment but he does work in 011 for his whole career so give him slack cause if I was him I would have been detailed to States Attny office right out of academy. would you rather have some do nothings from 016 or 008 make dick and hand your off or on duty shooting?

12/15/2005 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad that your illiterate ass isn't going to be a dick!

12/15/2005 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Good guy" does not merit a promotion just because.

12/15/2005 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I know some of those guys in 011 and they are good guys, they deserve it" -NO, if you cheated you do not deserve it. There are plenty of workers who did not cheat.

"would you rather have some do nothings from 016 or 008 make dick and hand your off or on duty shooting" -I would rather have an honest 016th or 008th District copper than a cheater.

12/15/2005 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know these guys, they probably cheated, but they deserve to get dick. They worked real hard to get dick. They all really wanted dick, and now they're going to get dick. Those girls from 023 who had the answers deserve dick too. If I had to pick a group to take dick together, it would be them. You are all jealous because they are the best cops in the department as proven by them being in 011 and 023. There are no other good cops out there except in those districts, at least none that should take dick as much as this group. They all bent over backwards for dick, and they all deserve to take dick. Good job guys! Have fun getting dick!

12/15/2005 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"would you rather have some do nothings from 016 or 008 make dick and hand your off or on duty shooting" -I would rather have an honest 016th or 008th District copper than a cheater.

12/15/2005 01:20:36 PM

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While I agree with you in theory, finding an honest copper anywhere in this city is a needle in the haystack!

12/15/2005 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

first of all..some do nothing from 016 making dick. i can you, i see these tact and gang guys and gals in 016 make alot of very good burglary arrest where they work hour after hour doing a clear up, and inventoring lots of recovered property.and doing alot of leg work to get these burglar's off the street..they have arrested several burglars in the last few weeks and inventoried hundreds of misc property..and put these ass hole in prison...i bet you can't count on one hand coppers from the west side (ghetto) that would put this much time and effort into a job..they only want the one bag of dope and the gun...(this gun will only kill another shit head)so dont tell me about the police in 016..some are yes dogs,,but other work their butts off, protecting the tax payer..which would be you cry babies..SORRY GUYS..IM TIRED OF THE GHETTO COP ALWAYS SAYING HE IS THE BEST..WELL THERE ARE SOME REAL GOOD ONES..BUT 016th have alot of them..

12/15/2005 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is the way it's allways been and the way it will allways be. the corruption is wide spread and goes all the way to the top.....far above daley.

12/15/2005 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 'J-Dog', you were beefing big time that the dicks shouldn't get D2A pay several years back. Now you are one. You gonna take the extra bump in pay now?

12/15/2005 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dat be right! Dem getto cops are too busy chasing one rock runner arrests! Listen to zone 12(busiest zone in the city) They chase,catch and make arrests! Zone 1,(zzzzzzzz)

12/15/2005 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nari and Roy made it on rank (I believe they were 8 and 9) so the merit theory is out the window. That only leaves the theory that the group had a copy of the test. Oh yea, and the theory that they all studied hard...NOT

12/15/2005 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone from FOP (or their relatives) make it?

12/15/2005 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

zone 12 busiest in the city? Sorry pal, I worked em all. Its one of the 4 busiest, but it ain't the busiest except in the mind of one of the first watch goofs in 025.

Zone 6 is the busiest. Zone 10 is the craziest. Zone 8 is the shortest on units. Zone 12 is somewhere down the list on all three measures, but it ain't tops. The only people who think otherwise are the people without the basis of having worked in or on all 13 at all hours.

12/15/2005 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these the people from the souper sekret study group?

12/15/2005 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys are dorks

12/15/2005 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1:29pm
Did you just read the Department Commadation off your wall you 016 do nothing, wow you got a burglar!!!!I got a homicide offender and not even an honorable!!!!!

12/15/2005 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a week everyone will have forgotten about this and a new scandal will break. No big deal. Life in the big City.

12/15/2005 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do you think the city only made 50 dicks?

Let's see. Seven officers from the 11th district made it this time. I bet fourteen officers would have made it if the city promoted 100 as they usually do.

Then this blog site would have really been going crazy with rumors.

12/15/2005 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous I Hate Stupid people said...

I got a homicide offender and not even an honorable!!!!!

12/15/2005 03:03:04 PM
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Oh get fucked you loser! Do you realize what a complete tool you sound like? You show your immaturity and inexperience by posting bullshit like that!

Anyone who thinks that they can point a finger and proclaim who is the "real police" and who isn't, ISN'T!!!

12/15/2005 03:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey.3:03...you got a homicide..wow that is one less shit head..who care's. he kill another shit head,and you sound bitter that you did't get a honorable..why should you..it was a shit head killing a shit head..that guy in 016 got the ass hole who was going to rape your little sister while she was home sick from school in her little pink panties...but wait, he grabbed that guy while you were protecting the GHETTO..you don't impress me that guy in 016 protecting my house does..so eat-shit and stay in the GHETTO...

12/15/2005 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am just happy that I am in the Sgt's class and getting my D2A pay while in the area!! and yes I made it by the numbers...I know severaal of the 011th. dist coppers and they are good hard working coppers who work their asses off every day and they deserve the promotion! CONGRATS TO ALL OF THEM!! They as well as several other ghetto districts in the city should get added merit picks anyway just for working in a fucking toilet....I know,I know...someone will say..."Fuck them they chose to work there" and yes you are right....they "chose" to work there and it was for a reason.....they wanted to be the police and they have balls to be there...period!The fact that several working coppers scored well on a fucking test doesn't mean that they cheated...it means that they studied a lot and know their jobs from working every day and not sleeping or shopping for 6 hours a day...Coppers from 011 , 15,007,010 deserve their promotions because they worked for them...and shame on anyone who works midnights in slower districts who have all night to study and scored poorly...you have no room to criticize anyone because you didn't score well enough....you have an even greater advantage than the working coppers in the ghetto who work in that toilet and then go to court every day and then back to the toilet again....what's your excuse now?? As far as Devine ....the kid works...period!! I know him,I've seen him work...he works! He could be anywhere he wants to be in this shithole department but he is in a fucking toilet....because of CLOUT right?? no, because he wants to be the POLICE and he has the balls to be there! Sorry for all of you who are jealous or didn't do as well but.....it happens and yes there is a fucked up merit system but it has been that way for years and you can't blame the coppers...I'm shure that if you had the clout to get promoted you'd NEVER use it right?? CONGRATS AGAIN TO THE NEW DICKS!!!! YOU DESERVE IT!!

12/15/2005 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous I Got You All Beat said...

I got a Apartment Condemnation!
BEOTCHES!!!!!

12/15/2005 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

016 = pussies!

12/15/2005 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feel the love, lol.

12/15/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Dr. Mary knoll said...

The ONLY good reason not to TEAR DOWN that list is so CURTIS gets his D2A while remaining in our Fruits & Nuts BLUE MAN GROUP!

Too Funny! Payback is a beeyatch!

12/15/2005 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can't believe there are actually people saying that it is ok becasue the guys from 011 are good guys or workers. i did shitty on the test and i hope they tear it down so i can fuck up on the next one and watch someone else's kid and his friends get promoted.

12/15/2005 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous tired old ghetto vet said...

Bosses/politicians kids on this job will always be second guessed.

Most of them choose to work in 011 to try and prove to everyone that they are the police, and I have no problem with that or them. Most of them really do work just as hard, if not harder than anyone else, but they'll never escape the stupid idea that they are somehow subpar because of who their father is/was.

However, let's not pat those guys in 011 on the back too hard now. Yes it's a toilet, but if you need to work there so that you can somehow feel supieror to other coppers then you are a jagoff, pure and simple. Most guys don't work there for the good of the community. They're there for their own selfish reasons, whether it be court time, building a "rep", stealing from the dope boys or just to overcompensate for a small penis or something similar.

Do your job, shut the fuck up and stop worrying about everyone else.

...and let's be careful out there...

12/15/2005 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...I know severaal of the 011th. dist coppers and they are good hard working coppers who work their asses off every day and they deserve the promotion!

I worked hard too but did not get the answers, does that mean I don't deserve it?

What about the other guys in 011 that were not on Devine's tac team? They must not have deserved it either.....

12/15/2005 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

However, let's not pat those guys in 011 on the back too hard now. Yes it's a toilet, but if you need to work there so that you can somehow feel supieror to other coppers then you are a jagoff, pure and simple. Most guys don't work there for the good of the community. They're there for their own selfish reasons, whether it be court time, building a "rep", stealing from the dope boys or just to overcompensate for a small penis or something similar.



When I got on, few years before the training dist nonsence, a normal joe couldn't get into 011 without a phone call!

12/15/2005 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous RETIREE CONCEALED CARRY UPDATE said...

RETIREE CONCEALED CARRY UPDATE

(Posyed on the FOP website in the past hour)

At the urging of the Fraternal Order of Police, the Illinois Police Training and Standards Board voted today to begin processing the applications for Retiree Carry Concealed without the endorsement of the City of Chicago. This discussion has been in the works for about 2 weeks now and in spite of the efforts of some individuals who have gone off on their own and contacted the media and have sought other legal advice, the decision of the Training Board is the proper avenue to address the latest roadblock of the City. This is now the 3rd roadblock that has been overcome through the efforts of your F.O.P. working in conjunction with the Training Board to address all concerns. We have sought the patience of all of our members in allowing us to address their interests and we appreciate the patience most of you have shown. Working together is the way to resolve this latest issue and those that may come in the future.

The initial plan is to begin processing the applications that have been submitted after the first of the year. These applications will not need to be processed by the City and any future applications will be processed likewise. The total time element has not been outlined for the process but should not be significant. When the timeline is better identified, we will update this web site.

12/15/2005 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess some people think every police officer in the 008th or 016th dist was born and raised there. Well, that is far from the truth. There are plenty of great officers in both districts. I also worked on the west side for 10 years. Yes, also caught people for murder, agg batt's, dope... and yes the popular dopw. There are also plenty of officers in districts that can't interview their way out of a paper bag. There are officers that have never handled a long term investigation. Now some of them are going to be detectives. I feel bad most of all for the police officers who make a good arrest and the Det. that comes to you has never worked the street or has any common sense. Try to ease up. I'm pretty sure that most of you that write hate mail about the P/O's in 008 & 016 probably live in 008 or 016. I now enjoy working in a nice area. To be able to help out friends if needed. There are actually real victims here. Crime that matters. A quality of life that we want our kids to enjoy. Please, by all means, have fun in the Ghetto, I always did. Don't be bitter and bring the ghetto back home. We don't need it here. Enjoy the circus and the clowns and always remember that there are better places to be in life.

12/15/2005 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with above, he hit the nail on the head.

12/15/2005 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can they tear down the list with no proof of cheating and how can you penalize those that did not and scored well? Lawsuit central.

12/15/2005 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many different ways can people post that the 011th district cops are good workers? How about the guys from 011 who are good workers, who have more time on the job, AND DIDN'T HAVE THE TEST? I don't care where these assholes worked, they screwed the real working police who don't have the phone calls. PERIOD. Congrats 11 and 23'rd district detectives, you just lost the respect of the rest of the department (including most of us from 011).

12/15/2005 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fact not all the guys from 011 are on the same Gang or Tact Team. Fact none of Devine's partners or good friends from 011 made tact. So all you shit talking back stabbing pussies. Shut the fuck up and wipe your little cunts.

12/15/2005 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fact not all the guys from 011 are on the same Gang or Tact Team. Fact none of Devine's partners or good friends from 011 made tact. So all you shit talking back stabbing pussies. Shut the fuck up and wipe your little cunts.

12/15/2005 05:32:45 PM

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Mom? Is that you? I told you to stop posting here! Now go take your medication and get back in bed!!!

12/15/2005 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest(again) said...

Bet "Shady," was locked out of the process. Can't have a liberal detective, it would look bad.

12/15/2005 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: RETIREE CONCEALED CARRY and the new "Current Updates" posting on the FOP Web site. If true, way to go, Donahue & Co.

FUCK DALEY!

12/15/2005 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would not be surprised if the walrus delivered the test to 011 tact team in person with his unnatural love of the 011 dist. The question is....are the guys on the list good buddies with Lil' Walrus? His good buddies did real well on Sgt.s exam.

12/15/2005 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya lefty, we don't need another liberal detective such as yourself

12/15/2005 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Da mare is an irrational hoplophobe.

12/15/2005 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would anyone want to be a det.? Long hours,(days in court,while working midnite) Your family life will go to shit. Forget seeing Jimmy graduate. Just give me my 8 hrs. and my life.

12/15/2005 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the high divorce rate! But hey you guys are married to your job!

12/15/2005 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody from 05, 02, 24 out there????

12/15/2005 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: 06:34....good point; years ago, I worked as a hom/sex det.; long hours (it wasn't unusual to go to work on Monday, come home on Wednesday or Thursday (of course, that was long before the dept. restricted overtime; in fact, it was expected that if it was your case, you "worked it"). Personal observations: 1) it was the best job I ever had, and I worked along side the best detectives I had ever seen; 2) I missed many of the most important family events there ever were (graduations, school plays, etc.); 3) my wife says now (I'm surprised she's still there, to be honest), that if she had it to do all over again, and if she knew then what she knows now (i.e., my being a detective, and all of the hours away from home), she would have filed for divorce a long time ago.....

12/15/2005 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
to: 06:34....good point; years ago, I worked as a hom/sex det.; long hours (it wasn't unusual to go to work on Monday, come home on Wednesday or Thursday (of course, that was long before the dept. restricted overtime; in fact, it was expected that if it was your case, you "worked it"). Personal observations: 1) it was the best job I ever had, and I worked along side the best detectives I had ever seen; 2) I missed many of the most important family events there ever were (graduations, school plays, etc.); 3) my wife says now (I'm surprised she's still there, to be honest), that if she had it to do all over again, and if she knew then what she knows now (i.e., my being a detective, and all of the hours away from home), she would have filed for divorce a long time ago.....

12/15/2005 07:02:16 PM



Not to sound callous, but what did your W-2's look like?

12/15/2005 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA......I didn't score good on the detective test....sniff...sniff....Let's start a rumour about the guys in the 011th. dist. that "Must have" cheated so I can mabey get another chance to ......NOT SCORE GOOD!! What a bunch of fucking cry baby pussies....if you feel so betrayed....transfer there...they don't have the fucking time to cheat morons....they work too fucking hard and live in court...I know every one of those guys and all of you whiny little bitches couldn't shine their shoes...and if you think you can...trnasfer there and do what they do...Don't give me the crap like the above poster said...about working in a districe where there "are real victims"....you probably work in 016 and are the copper that when called to another coppers job says...."You are the police....why did you call us?"...I can only say that a HANDFUL of coppers work in 016....most are DO NOTHING WHINERS!! WHO DON"T HELP THEIR BROTHER POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY ARE CALLED.....they are pissed off that they are "Bothered" and give the copper who called a BS blowoff or actually chastize him/her for calling as stated above....I'd LOVE to take the 016 dist coppers and transfer all of them to 010 or 011 for 1 whole year....they would be a totally different copper and would actually appreciate it when a fellow copper calls for help....if they would survive working in the toilet and actually making arrests...oh and .... going to court!! some of you people haven't seen a fucking court in years!! let alone made a FELONY arrest in years!!! SO STOP ALL OF YOUR FUCKING WHINING....I hardly think DEVINE (Old Man) would bring that much heat on himself or his family to give his kid a copy of the test....let's get real kids.He don't need a copy of any fucking test to get his kid promoted just a working telephone....I'll tell you....what a bunch of standup guys on this post....next time study instead of going to the fucking bar dickheads! CONGRATS TO THE FUTURE DICKS!!!

12/15/2005 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:19 PM
As a 15 year vet of Homicide/sex/Agg Bat. You said it all.The hurt my familt indured can never be made whole. Retired now buy still feeling guilty.

12/15/2005 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: 07:19....that's an excellent question, and when I relate the numbers, please put it into the perspective of those economic times and years (i.e., 25 years ago). My story: my promotion to det. got me to about 35K (base salary); salary and o/t got me to about 50-60k or so in those years (early-mid '80's). An aside: as a law school graduate, I wanted to work as a prosecutor (Cook County ASA); their starting salary was between 17-19K (couldn't support a family on that); so I stayed with the CPD...made a great salary w/ot as a det., but missed so many important events in the lives of my family that I wonder now why I did it...those are events that can never be replaced, i.e., I missed them, forever....such is life

12/15/2005 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's odd all right, like a lot of things that Kline and bald baby kline have been involved in.

12/15/2005 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of you who are stuck on this -"they work in 011 so they deserve it"- idea are A.) Showing your inexperience and B.) Lacking simple logic. There are dogs everywhere, juice babys everywhere, workers everywhere, corruption everywhere. There is nothing special about 011 that doesn't exist in the rest of the city, except for this effective cheating scam.

12/15/2005 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>I know every one of those guys <<

You didn't really have to say anything else. You would clearly make a great detective yourself, with your great insight, deductive reasoning skills, ability to think and communicate clearly, and naturally suspicious nature!

12/15/2005 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing I haven't seen here is so obvious: People who work in fast districts learn more aspects of the job than slower districts. If for no other reason, repeatedly doing the same thing.

I was lucky and passed a sergeant's test and was promoted. I studied my ass off and when I was taking the test, the answers were there. Amazing!! Study and the answers come to you. And a lot of answers came not from studying but from a practical knowledge of doing the job.

I wasn't made right away, but the important thing is that I was made. And I am grateful for the additional income and future pension benefits it will bring. And to the new detectives, my most sincere congratsulations and best wishes.

I know that many people think tests are all bullshit, and maybe they're right. I only know that my own sweat equity paid off. An old timer told me something long ago, that favoritism is a two edged sword....they may make people with clout, but they still have to make people who earn it.

My advise, read a G.O. a day. Just one. The time is going to go by whether you do or not, but if you take the ten minutes (while you're working of course) to read an order, then the next one, and so on, passing a test can be done.

Good Luck to all future test takers and Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all.

12/15/2005 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...missing the point 8:35-I made this class through my own hard work. Many of my hard working co-workers will not make detective, or will make it much later because a group of p.o.'s cheated. I'm not whining, I just happen to believe when an injustice occours it's worth sticking up for others. No one here is asking for test taking advice, we just want a fair system. When you realize it isn't fair there's nothing wrong with raising your voice.

12/15/2005 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I grow up I want to transfer to 011 so I can be the "REAL POLICE". Not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will patrol my own hood, thats the place that really matters.

12/15/2005 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07:38Pm, you are a moron.

That is all...

12/15/2005 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that those dogs on 1631 are in the next group of 50.

12/15/2005 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is everyone on their case, 1631 I mean?

12/15/2005 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is everyone on their case, 1631 I mean?

12/15/2005 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey when you guys up in 016 or down in 008 lock a dude up, and look at his rap sheet, how often do you find that the fucker was locked up before. I wonder if he was locked up before in say 015, 011, 007 or some other shit hole. Just wondering.

12/15/2005 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know now and then Forest Park would arrest offenders who live in 015.

12/15/2005 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1631 days seems O.K. He patrols his beat see him all the time.

12/15/2005 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see today's Sun Times? Ald. Smith says school instead of jail time for drug and gang offenses without a weapon used. County and juvenile courts aren't soft enough already?

12/15/2005 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you may be out of touch with reality, putting the 008th district in the same catagory as 016. Better check your stats. Busiest district in the city and as of now leads the city in homicides and part one crimes.

12/15/2005 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when SCC gets sued because of the slanderous, defamatory, and libelous content on this page i am going to laugh. i do believe there was a case stating that if there is ANY censorship, the site owner (ie SCC) is responsible for ALL content. so, if any of you have proof that Pete Devine cheated, post it and add your name for credibility.

defamation =
--the statement was false OR there was reckless disregard to the truth or falsity of said statement.--

CHA CHING

IP addresses anyone?

12/15/2005 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LISTEN, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE GIVEN THE TEST ANSWERS TO PASS THE DET'S EXAM AND SCORE VERY WELL. REMEMBER 98% OF TEST TAKERS ARE STUDYING ALL THE GO'S ETC... BUT THERE ARE SOME WHO STUDY 50% OF THE ORDERS... FURTHERMORE THERE ARE THE SELECT (CLOUT) FEW WHO PROBABLY STUDY 10-25 ORDERS. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE GIVEN THE EXACT ANSWERS, BUT RATHER JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT ORDERS THE TEST WILL COVER.

EXAMPLE:

MATT : HEY GUYS ARE YOU STUDYING THE ORDERS

TACT GUYS: YEA, LOOK AT ALL THIS WE GOTTA STUDY FOR. HEY MATT ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO STUDY WELL FOR AN EXAM LIKE YOU DID?

MATT: SURE, HERE'S MY STUDY TECHNIQUE AS WAS COUGH, COUGH, TAUGHT TO ME. YOU ONLY NEED TO STUDY THESE ORDERS (POINTING TO SPECIFIC ORDERS ON THE STUDY LIST)

TACT GUYS: BUT ARE YOU SURE WE CAN JUST STUDY 2% OF THE ORDERS ON THE STUDY LIST AND DO WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE DET?

MATT: HEY LOOK AT ME, DIDN'T I MAKE IT. I STUDIED THE SAME WAY I JUST TOLD YOU GUYS.

TACT GUYS: HEY THANKS BUDDY.

MATT: NO PORBLEM, BUT JUST KEEP THIS BETWEEN US.

12/15/2005 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous notahousemouse said...

"I'd LOVE to take the 016 dist coppers and transfer all of them to 010 or 011 for 1 whole year....they would be a totally different copper and would actually appreciate it when a fellow copper calls for help....if they would survive working in the toilet and actually making arrests...oh and .... going to court!! some of you people haven't seen a fucking court in years!! let alone made a FELONY arrest in years!!!"

Hey ROY is that you? I work in 016 and spent 10 years in 010. What does that make me? How about my co-workers. There is one from Bomb and Arson, a few from Narcotics, many from -015, 014, 011, SOG, SOS. What does that make them?
Wake the fuck up and realize what you do in the 011 district makes no fucking difference. Dope arrests are a dime a dozen there. It's the same shithole it was years ago. You are doing NOTHING to change the neighborhood.
As far as attending court goes, run a USM on the district and you will see that there are at least 3 or 4 cars a day that are in court.
If you are the real police than handle your bullshit neighbor disputes yourself and stop fucking bothering the police with your asshole neighbor burning something in his yard. Go the fuck next door and tell him to put it out. Is your next call for service going to be to get your cat out of your tree?
Remember the "real police" don't have to go around and tell everyone what a great copper they are. Enjoy your promotion I hope you earned it!

12/15/2005 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe that one of the 011th dist tac officers who passed is the son of states att. dick devine, and two others on that list academy classmates of his. just a theroy!

12/15/2005 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

defamation =
--the statement was false OR there was reckless disregard to the truth or falsity of said statement.--

CHA CHING

IP addresses anyone?

12/15/2005 10:41:59 PM



So I guess the city gets the lawsuit since I'd bet the majority of posts here are made on department computers.

12/15/2005 11:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess after a decade of working patrol, most of it on midnights, I should transfer to (011) so I can be retrained by a 2 yr wonder @ "How to be the Real police"

I sense a lot of arrogance coming out of the 11th District on this site.

You guys are no better or no worse than coppers in any other district. It's okay to display some unit pride, but you guys elevate it to a new level!

Just venting..Stay safe anyways, and have a Merry Christmas.

12/16/2005 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some keep referring to studying for a past sgt's test...and while I am dating myself to say that since I've been on the job, I haven't been eligible to take a sgt's test - I did take the most recent dic's test. And studying GO's for part 2 didn't mean jack. It was all logic/scenario crap. I've been told by many that the sgt's tests are very different - very GO oriented.

But if the people from 011/023 want to share their study group secrets (and I'm not even insinuating that they were cheating), please feel free.

12/16/2005 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In 1988 about 65 % of Sergeants who worked off duty security at Wrigley Field made Lieutenant.

In the mix were the 3 brothers of the Captain in charge of the job.

Quoting Curley Howard of the 3 Stooges...."What a co-incidence!!!

12/16/2005 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least this exam didn\'t have any of Maurer\'s bootlickers as #1. He was an SSME (SENIOR Subject Matter Expert), and this role allowed him to have access to ALL of the exam content. Like magic, Sgt. Chris Kennedy (his admin. sgt) scored #1 on the Lt\'s test by a wide margin. And then, PO Kevin Hannigan scored #1 on the Sgt\'s exam, and he\'s no genius. He lied and said he was #42. Why did he hide it? BECAUSE HE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE!!! It now looks like Sgt. Jimmy \"High Pitch\" Fiducia might have to make Lt. legit, unless Maurer can still get all of the answers from his buddies at Jeanerette and Associates.

12/16/2005 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous The winners are..... said...

I love good 1631 and 812 bashing!!!!! Both 3rd watch cars are voted worst beat cars in city. Congrats!!!!!

12/16/2005 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Mr. notahousemouse....typical answer...I would have expected nothing less from you...like I said in my original post....Thanks for helping out your brother coppers....."Go Next Door and handle it yourself , you're the police"....What a JAGOFF!!

12/16/2005 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1631, did you know there are gangbanger p.r.'s hanging out in Canty school yard.

12/16/2005 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont forget about L. Mann she was licking more than boots by all accounts. she got to try detective and then Sgt thanks to Mauer. where is she anyways ?

12/16/2005 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:45:56

in 011, we are used to being attacked by "citizens", we defend ourselves. now we are attacked by fellow police? damned right we are gonna defend ourselves.

this post is a perfect example of how the police dept should be. we have pride and unity. we back each other up whenever one of us needs help, regardless of who it is and why. maybe instead of adding to the conspiracy theory and attacking other policemen, you could go and back a fellow policeman up... but then again, what do i know, since i work in 011, i must be a lowly, no good, know nothing, arrogant 2 year wonder.

12/16/2005 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mann is the A/4 3rd watch saturation sgt. Ghetto police from way back. Learned all about it writing Mauer's "memoirs" when he was A/3 Deputy.

12/16/2005 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of Daley , Maurer and Burkes ass wipes and lackeys can take their exams in crayon and pass.

12/16/2005 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mauer and Cline got all the answers to all the exams from Ald Eddie Burke, and they sold them to friends and girl pals.

12/16/2005 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My advise, read a G.O. a day. Just one. The time is going to go by whether you do or not, but if you take the ten minutes (while you're working of course) to read an order, then the next one, and so on, passing a test can be done.

Good Luck to all future test takers and Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all.

12/15/2005 08:35:51 PM

----------------

The GO part isnt the issue. Any fool can read the right GO's and memorize rank in order of how has control of an HBT incident, or how many days a month does a CAPS meeting occur.

The part that'll trick you up is the "subjective" part. There, if you have "friends" in the "right places", they might be able to "advise" you on "what to do" in a "certain situation".

Get it?

12/16/2005 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mann was NEVER a GHETTO COP....SHe was in 013 and did a stint on the A3 Saturation Team at which point she welcomed with open arms to the Deputy's Office... She made Detective from there adn went to Area 1 for three or four months (maybe not even that) then made SGT. She went to 011 and now is SAT Team SGT....

Lisa is a nice person, but one of those two year wonders that found a spot in the Bosses team and avoided street time... Buth then again that has always been Mauer's M.O. Sgt. Jimmy \"High Pitch\" Fiducia NEVER did a lick of police work in his life....Field training to neighborhood relations / CAPS Office, to A3 Deputy Chiefs office to 011 for a period or two then to the Chiefs office. Now he is in NAGIS and couldn't tell what a gang banger looks like let alone if it's Marijuana or Crack.... The future of the Department GOD HELP US.....

12/16/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oooops, sorry that was 023 For L. Mann, not 013......Typo

12/16/2005 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Calling her a ghetto cop was sarcasm. Just how many women have blown Mauer? Must have to retire when he ran out of little blue pills.

12/16/2005 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets be realistic.....most of these merit dicks know that they will never get the respect they deserve if they earned it solely by their connections and they will fail as detectives and be a complete embarrasment...so let them have a few more thousand dollars...you can't buy respect and just because your badge says "detective" doesn't mean you are one.

12/16/2005 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've known a lot of merit detectives who were fantastic detectives. I know of at least one merit detective who made sergeant on his own.

What constitutes merit? The medal of valor? The blue star? Clearing a homicide? Clearing a significant crime pattern? Clearing many significatn crime patterns? A significant number of part I arrests? Intuitive thinking?

Or is it, alderman's nephew? Commanders gopher? Politically connected businessmans daughter?

Answer: All of the above and a hell of a lot more. Merit promotions would be easier to swallow if only one bite of the merit apple was allowed. But then, this is Chicago and that ain't going to happen. The really sad thing is that there are a ton of people made meritorious who actually deserve it and do the job well, but they get painted with the same brush as the dogass.

Merry Christmas

12/16/2005 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TWENTY tHREE Years Ago wasnt JIMMY FIDUCIA s Uncle found with his throat Cut when the Outfit found out he was a STOOL PIGION for the FBI.

12/16/2005 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You aint a real Dick unless you can steal at least 40 additional hours a period "undetected". Just kidding! Lighten up!

12/16/2005 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send every copper from 016 to 011 for a year and see if they survive??? If you only realized how stupid you guys sound. Let me see when you graduate from the academy the commander from personnel has a secret list that has the names of all the recruits that have super cop natural powers and sends them to 002,007,011,015,or 025 because they and only they can work there and survive nand be the police. Then the senerio is that the Chief of Patrol also has a similar list of p.o.'s that sometime in their carrer aqquired these super-cop powers and he personally recruited them to transfered in to these very very scary places to be the police because them and only them could survive being the police there. GET FUCKING OVER IT!!! its a job. All you kids that grew up in plush neighborhood(majority)and now think you are a bad ass because you work in the hood need to stop pounding your chest.What all these other posters have been trying to get through your two yr. on the job thick heads is that dont judge the district and paint every p.o.there with a broad brush but as indiviual p.o.'s. Look in the mirror tough guys/gals I'll bet you will find dogs,chicken shits,cry babies,kiss asses, etc... in every district and unit in this department. Its good to bust balls, shit i like to do it, its part of the job but the shit is getting old kiddies.

12/17/2005 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said!

12/17/2005 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you kiding me you little puke, I probably worked in 011 when you were still popping zits off your forehead you beeyatch.

Quit all the bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/17/2005 05:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lisa Mann, now that is another story. There are those who believe that Maurer left the test answers on her nightstand as he left in the morning, but she was doubly qualified to be promoted to both detective and sergeant, because she had the largest breasts of anybody on Maurer\'s staff, with the exception of Jimmy Fiduccia and his man-boobs.

12/17/2005 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did she have a fucked up face lift?

12/17/2005 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it jello or mud before she came on the job.....Just curious

12/17/2005 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

listen all you det.'s and those on the list. det. is NOT a promotion. it does not denote any rank higher than that of a PO. it is a job code title change. instead of doing nothing in a beat car or some unit you can now do nothing in the Det. div. Or, if you are a working copper in a beat car or unit then you will be a working det. in the D unit. BUT REMEMBER A DETECTIVE HAS NO AUTHORITY OR RANK HIGHER THAN THAT OF A BLUE SHIRT. HE MAKES MORE MONEY BUT HAS NO I REPEAT NO AUTHORITY OVER A BLUESHIRT.

12/17/2005 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SO INSTEAD OF CONGRADULATING SOMEONE FOR GETTING PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE YOU CONGRADUALTE THEM FOR "MAKING DETECTIVE". REMEMBER IT'S NOT A PROMOTION, A PROMOTION DENOTES RANK AND DETECTIVES HAVE NO RANK.

12/17/2005 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you mister Bitterman

12/17/2005 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHATS A P.R. ????

12/17/2005 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers with less than 5 years on job shouldn't qualify for any promotions. Not that you can't be a good officer, but you still need more experience.

12/17/2005 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
SO INSTEAD OF CONGRADULATING SOMEONE FOR GETTING PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE YOU CONGRADUALTE THEM FOR "MAKING DETECTIVE". REMEMBER IT'S NOT A PROMOTION, A PROMOTION DENOTES RANK AND DETECTIVES HAVE NO RANK.

12/17/2005 02:29:30 PM"

Thanks boss, now maybe you can take some of your free time and go back to school for some remedial spelling classes!

Your "promotion" was meritorious, I am sure.

12/17/2005 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If all of the 11th District war stories Jimmy Fiduccia tells are fiction, now I am wondering about all of the stories of the women he dated!? Is nothing on this job legit?

12/17/2005 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If all of the 11th District war stories Jimmy Fiduccia tells are fiction, now I am wondering about all of the stories of the women he dated!? Is nothing on this job legit?

12/17/2005 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there are three things in this world that are "on the legit": 1) professional wrestling; 2) tv roller derby; 3) the CPD.....

12/17/2005 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry, should have added #4: Chicago city government....

12/17/2005 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the site where i can get a date with a 17 year old boy.

12/17/2005 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If all of the 11th District war stories Jimmy Fiduccia tells are fiction, now I am wondering about all of the stories of the women he dated!? Is nothing on this job legit?

What war stories.... I can't believe the Chief sent me here, where is Starbucks and how can I get a free meal???? Hey but then again he came up with this ground breaking "Gang Intelligence" about the white t-shirts...Maybe if worried less about how to get back 35th Street he make a lot more discoveries that the street cops have known for a long time...

12/18/2005 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are the White Sox still in the playoffs?

12/18/2005 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys in 011 aren't shit,,,,,,,Cook County Forest Preserve Police RUN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The tree police are the real shit!

12/18/2005 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH yeah....One more thing you so called bad asses in 011,,,,you overlooked one group of hard charging mother fuckers, the Secretary of State Police that guard the Driverse License facilitys!!!!!!!!!!!Now you feel embarrased!!!!SOS Police are the real PO-PO!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/18/2005 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOO-HOO, I work in 011 and chase homicide offenders, I go to shootings and murders, BOO-HOO, I work for the Cook County Forest Presereve Police, did you so called "Workers" in 011 ever have to cancel a family picknic with over 200 people because they had no permit? I didnt think so! How about being chased by a rabid squirell that was foaming at the mouth! OR,,,,have to work midnights in the forest all by yourself, evan after seeing the Blair Witch Project! SO because you work in 011 dont mean shit! Talk about dangerous! Please,,do you know how many people at my job throw hot coals directly into the garbage can! Well let me tell you,,,its alot. CCFP Police are bad asses...dont forget it!!!!!!!!!!

12/18/2005 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's speak the truth here! The coppers from 007, 010, 011, and 015 are shit! They don't know how to be the police like us Metra police! We are the hardest working police in the nation. Nobody can escort a drunk off a train like us.

12/18/2005 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're all a bunch of jagoffs. Police is police, period. Some are more experienced, some work in shitholes, some make more money, but anyone of us can get a bullet in the head at any time. Bad guys don't give a shit who's who, they only know that a copper is the enemy and if you cross them, you can die. City coppers aren't the only ones killed in the line of duty....sad to say.

12/19/2005 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not being bitter it's just the plain truth. A detective has no rank, I repeat no rank. What's wrong with pointing that out? I wish all the new Detectives good luck and hope they get assigned to their preferred Areas. And yes, I did make rank before I could become a Detective. However I am just pointing out that their is no rank in becoming a detective. What's wrong with that? I know some Detectives think they can order PO's around at a crime scene, in the station etc... but they can't, and they shouldn't try to. I have met real good detectives who were the real deal before they became detectives and I have met detectives who were never the police and couldn't handle a garage burglary. The question I have for you DETECTIVE, which one ARE YOU?

12/19/2005 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHEN WE GRADUATE FROM THE ACADMEY WE ARE TOLD WHERE WE ARE GOING TO TRAIN AND END UP GOING TO DISTRICTS THAT ARE SHORT STAFFED. I CAN ONLY SPEAK FROM MY STAND POINT AND I WENT TO THE 011TH DISTRICT AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE ALL WORK IN 25 DIFFERENT DISTRICTS BUT WE ALL DO WORK IN DIFFERENT WAYS. WE CAN ALL TELL YOU A STORY ABOUT HOW HARD THE COPS HERE OR THERE WORK WHICH IS GREAT BUT THE QUESTION IS DID THESES GUYS FROM 011TH DISTRICT GET THE TEST OR HELP FROM A HIGHER SOURCE BEFORE THE EXAM WAS GIVEN. I CAN TELL YOU AS AN EYE WITNESS I WAS IN THE SAME STUDY CLASS WITH 6 OF THE OFFICERS, ONLY 6 OF THE OFFICERS ARE ON GANG OR TACT. I DONT BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE THAT THEY CHEATED OR RECEIVED HELP!! I WORKED ON A TEAM WITH 2 OF THEM AND I SCORED IN THE 500'S SOME OF US TEST WELL AND OTHERS DON'T. THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. THE 6 OFFICERS FROM 011 THAT ARE HERE AND NOT DETAILED TO SOME OTHER UNIT HAVE WORKED CLOSELY, JUST LIKE MANY OF YOU, WITH AREA FOUR DETECTIVES FOR THE LAST 3-8 YEARS. ALL OF THEM HAVE MORE AGG. BATT., MURDER, ETC.. ARRESTS THAN THE NORMAL AMOUNT WE MIGHT TRIP ONTO. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WOULD COME INTO WORK A LITTLE EARLY AND GO UP STAIRS TO THE DETECTIVE DIVISION(AREA FOUR) AND CHECK IF THERE WAS ANY NEW INFORMATION ON CERTAIN CASES OR WITNESSES THAT WERE NEEDED. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING LIKE DETECTIVES FOR SO LONG AND STUDYING WHAT THEY DO THAT YOU CAN'T HELP BUT DO WELL ON AN EXAM ABOUT DETECTIVE WORK. CHASING DOWN 1 ROCK ARRESTS WILL NOT MAKE YOU READY TO TAKE A DETECTIVES EXAM BUT WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT WITH THEM AND LEARNING FROM THE LIKES OF LT. FERRELL, SGT. WALSH, DET. CRONIN, DET. KADO, DET. CERONE AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THERE ARE GREAT DETECTIVES IN ALL THE AREAS AND THEY WILL ALL TELL YOU THAT THE LIST I JUST GAVE IS A PRETTY GOOD LIST OF GUYS WHO KNOW THERE STUFF. THIS IS LIKE BRINGING 300 KIDS(WHO WANTS TO BE IN THE NBA WHEN THEY GROW UP) TO A 3-7 YEAR PROGRAM WHERE THEY GET TO LEARN AND WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT FROM SOME OF THE BEST NBA STARS, ODDS ARE AT LEAST 10 PERCENT OF THE KIDS WILL BE PRETTY GOOD OR MAYBE EVEN STARS. THESE 6 HAVE BEEN WORKING IN ONE PLACE FOR A WHILE AND THE TYPICAL SCENARIO OCCURS FOR MOST OF US: 1ST YOU WORK THE BEAT OR DESK FOR A WHILE AND IF YOU WANT SOMETHING MORE YOU WORK A RAPID CAR , NEXT YOU TRY TO GET ON THE MISSION TEAM BUT YOU STILL WANT SOMETHING ELSE, NEXT YOU PUT IN YOUR TO-FROM FOR TACT/GANG AND GET DENIED OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU HAVE SPENT TIME ON THE WATCH AND BOSSES LEARN THAT YOU ARE MOTIVATED AND LIKE TO WORK/ YOU FINALLY GET ON TACT/GANG. AND NOW YOU ARE ASSIGNED MISSIONS LIKE AGG. BATT. OR BURGLARY ETC... AND YOU ASK THE DETECTIVES, WHO ARE AT LEAST WHEN I WAS COMING UP THE MOST RESPECTED GUYS AROUND, FOR A LITTLE HELP. WE HAVE ALL GOTTEN A GREAT PINCH AND THE FIRST PERSON THERE TO HELP US WRITE THE PAPER THE RIGHT WAY WAS USUALLY A SEASONED SGT., OLD TIMER ON THE WATCH OR A DETECTIVE. I BELIEVE THAT THESE 6 ACTUALLY LEANRED WHAT THEY KNOW AND DID WELL FOR ALL THE REASONS ABOVE.
WHEN THE ACTUAL TESTS ARE ALLOWED TO BE VIEWED BY ALL... THERE WILL NOT BE ANY APOLOGIES AND NONE WILL BE NEEDED BECAUSE WE WHO KNOW THESE GUYS KNOW THEY DID IT LEGIT.
WE HAVE ALL BEEN ACUSED OF WRONG DOING BY SOMEONE, WHETHER IT WAS "YOU PUT THAT ROCK ON ME" OR " THOSE POLICE BEAT MY ASS" OR "THEY TOOK MY MONEY" OR " I THING YOU ARE CHEATING ON ME " WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, ALL WE HAVE ARE EACH OTHER ON THIS JOB BECAUSE THE PUBLIC (THANKS TO DALEY AND THE MEDIA) DOESNT LIKE US. WHEN PEOPLE ACCUSE OTHERS OF CHEATING WITHOUT PROOF AND ITS ANOTHER COP DOING THE ACCUSING IT HURTS ALL OF US. WE GET ENOUGH OF THAT FROM THE MEDIA. I READ ALL OF THE REMARKS BEFORE I WROTE THIS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE A LOT OF OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT FOR WHAT REASON?
I WORKED WITH TACT. TEAMS FROM ALMOST EVERY DIST IN THE LASTS 7 YEARS ON JOINT MISSIONS OR DETAILS AND THEY ALL WORK HARD AND THEY ARE JUST LIKE THE REST OF US, UNDER PAID OVER WORKED AND UNDER APPRECIATED. RECENTLY THE 16TH DIST WAS HERE ON A JOINT MISSION WITH 25TH DIST. AND THEY CAUGHT A UUW/ ROBBERY ARREST BECAUSE CONTRARY TO POLULAR BELIEF THEY WORK HARD, LIKE SO MANY OF US BUT WE DON'T GET THE RECOGNITION OR RESPECT THAT WE SO DESPERATELY DESERVE.
NEW YORK CITY HAD AN OFFICER WHO WAS BEING FIRED FOR SOME BULLSHIT REASON AND %65 OF THE COPS SHOWED UP TO PROTEST IN ORDER TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR THEIR FELLOW OFFICER. CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS NEED TO BECOME A FAMILY AND IF WE CAN, THAN WE HAVE A LOT BETTER CHANCE COME CONTRACT TIME OR IF A FELLOW OFFICER NEEDS OUR SUPPORT. DALEY KNOWS THAT WE ARE NOT A FAMILY RIGHT NOW AND TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THIS ON EVERY CONTRACT. HE HOLDS OUR MONEY IN LIMBO COLLECTING INTEREST WHILE WE WAIT AND DO WHAT ARE BOSSES TELL US TO DO SINCE WE CAN'T STRIKE ! BUT I SAY IF WE GET REAL LEADERS IN EACH DISTRICT WHO CAN BRING US ALL TOGETHER THAN WE CAN START TO SEE VERY POSITIVE CHANGES IN ALL OUR DISTRICTS.
WE CAN START WITH THE SMALL COMPLAINTS: i need a locker, i don't get time due when i ask for it , my sgt. is on my ass all the time, u can't drive to your lunch location - eat - and drive back in thirty fucking minutes, why can't we get some new weight equipment in our workout room, why don't i ever get honorable mentions and who is encharge of them anyways.
I didn't do well in school and i never graduacted from college which you can tell from my bad writing but I AM A GOOD JUDGE OF CHARACTER, I BELIEVE THESE 6 ARE NOT CHEATERS AND I BELIEVE WE AS A WHOLE NEED TO BECOME A FAMILY OR DALEY WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US TIL THE NEXT MAYOR COMES ALONG. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS AND GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.

12/20/2005 04:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys all forgot about the Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago Police..How would you like to ride around with a squad car that has "Your Shit's Our Bread and Butter" written across the side?

12/20/2005 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous you are an idiot said...

This comment is meant to address the ridiculous innuendo posted about the 011 District Detective Test scores. Every time a promotional test is given, a few people that don't know quite as much as they thought start to bitch about conspiracies and clout. The fact of the matter is, most of the policeman in the 011 District know their job inside and out, and if a greater percentage of those people passed then they deserve to be promoted. Maybe the best strategy for those that didn't do well this time is to try to do better next time, instead of worrying about those were smart enough to pass. Your blog is a perfect example of why so many good policemen and policewomen get so little respect. You get some bad news and run to the FOP crying foulplay. You are a disgrace to the uniform, and I am ashamed to be on the job with you.

12/20/2005 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Relax guy. No one is gonna invetigate Phil's surrogate kids in 011. This is CPD, no one pays any attention to us. I just love the egos in 011, though. Saving the city 5 rocks at a time.

12/20/2005 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

5 rocks and $80.00

12/20/2005 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are people missing the obvious !
You need a mighty big phone call to get into Unit# 189 or Unit#193 yet
4 people of #189 make detective
Gerald Swinkle, Fernando Caravajal, David Hindman, John Lewis and
4 people from #193 make detective
Beth Svec, Lawrence Herhold, Amalio Coral, John Follino, it sure is a coincidence that an old boss from the unit helped in making up the new test.
I wonder who got some helpful hints on what to study. hmmmmmmmm

12/21/2005 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im in 19th dst and its a lil weird that 3x 20th dst 3x 21st dst
3x 23rd dst 3x25th dst
for those who know the people who made it from those districts know that one from each dst all have one thing in common, they are all good friends of 1 particular boss( can u show me whats on the test)
who used to help make up the entrance exams in the 90's and other tests.hmm.look into it..

12/21/2005 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I received the answers to the test 1 month before the test was given. They were brought to me by a leprechaun riding a unicorn and he said " i'll give u these answers if you don't touch me lucky charms !!!!" U guys all need to get laid and not by each other or your hands. Quit go Duggans.
Get some friends that are not cops and don't badge ur way into every bar u go
u looklike a shithead when u do and the rest of the line laughs at u when u go in.

12/21/2005 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im in 19th dst and its a lil weird that 3x 20th dst 3x 21st dst
3x 23rd dst 3x25th dst
for those who know the people who made it from those districts know that one from each dst all have one thing in common, they are all good friends of 1 particular boss( can u show me whats on the test)
who used to help make up the entrance exams in the 90's and other tests.hmm.look into it..

12/21/2005 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im in 19th dst and its a lil weird that 3x 20th dst 3x 21st dst
3x 23rd dst 3x25th dst
for those who know the people who made it from those districts know that one from each dst all have one thing in common, they are all good friends of 1 particular boss( can u show me whats on the test)
who used to help make up the entrance exams in the 90's and other tests.hmm.look into it..

12/21/2005 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best police in the city come from 011. Be prepared for several more detective promotions in the next few classess.

12/21/2005 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

see "detectives list is out"
12:04:25AM

12/22/2005 12:37:00 AM  

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