Wednesday, December 14, 2005

UPDATE!!!

This is an UPDATE of the utmost IMPORTANCE!!!

Tookie is still dead.

That is all. We now return to previously scheduled blogging

50 Comments:

Anonymous Jesse, Sr. said...

LONG LIVE TOOK!!!!!!

12/14/2005 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This breaking news just in, Generalísimo Francisco Franco is still dead!"

Chevy Chase

12/14/2005 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tookie tookie bo boo-kie banana fanna fo fookie Tooooookie!!!!

12/14/2005 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every gangbanger i see now i call them Tookie.

12/14/2005 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

May his motherfuckering cock sucking soul burn in hell for eternity that rotten fucking mule!

Thank your god I'm atheist......

Fuck his mortal life.

May your GOD bless the families of the victims.

12/14/2005 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous ebay said...

The XXXL anal plug from the execution of Stanley "Tookie" Williams is now for sale on eBay. "Mint" unsterilized condition.
Opening bid: 7 cents.

12/14/2005 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God he is dead ,that worthless savage beast fucking un-civilized, M/1/animal...........

12/14/2005 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

Bet Arnold and the rest of the GOP'ers were dancing and applauding at 00:32 Pacific time. Should win him some votes at election time. He waited until the end to stop the state-mandated homicide in order that any options for the condemned were limited.

Don't get me wrong, he deserved prison for the rest of his life, but capital punishment is wrong in ALL cases.

12/14/2005 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just can't believe that the State of California killed an innocent man

Sincerely,
Mumia Abu Jamal

12/14/2005 04:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Crimefile said...

When I was a young policeman in Chicago, the Cook County jail guards went on strike. The jail was staffed with guard supervisors, Cook County Sheriff's police and Chicago cops. This lasted a couple of months. I was assigned to this duty and hated it with a passion.

They executed many prisoners in the jail during the 1930 through the 1960s. Chicago’s condemned inmates were never sent to prison in those days. The jail had it’s own busy electric chair. That chair stayed in the jail until the mid 1970s and it was removed and sent to the old prison in Joliet. I guess it never hurts to have a spare electric chair around a prison. Before the 1930s, hanging was Chicago’s method of retribution for capitol crimes.

The Fuhrman vs. Georgia capital punishment moratorium was not quite a decade old yet. To me, at 23 years of age, that decade was a lifetime. I had heard some of the names of people they fried but that was about all. I could remember those celebrated cases in California of Carol Chessman and Barbara Graham that were resolved in the gas chamber of San Quentin. Chessman never killed anyone. Chessman was executed for rapes of women he stopped on highways with a red flashing police light. He went to his death maintaining his innocence.

While assigned to that dreaded jail duty I met an old Black jail Chaplin who walked scores of men on their last walk. They were short walks since the Jail’s four-cell Death Row was less than 20 feet away from the chair and witness viewing area. The spectators were not separated from the condemned by glass or anything. They could hear the man’s words, bodily sounds and the buzzing of the electricity along with the humming of the big generators. They could also smell the condemned’s flesh burning.

The old reverend gave me all the gory details of his taking these souls to their last journey. I found his stories to be fascinating and beyond macabre. He also made it clear to me that not all of these men found or wanted forgiveness suggesting that a small percentage went straight to Hell.

I went into that execution chamber and tried to sit in the chair. I could not let my butt do more than barley touch the seat and I had enough of the experience and was back standing.

I few years later the bloodbath was on again with the firing squad execution of Gary Gilmore in Utah. I remember Chicago cops wearing t-shirts under their uniforms that were printed with Gilmore’s last words, “Let’s do it.” Capitol punishment came back with a bang everywhere except the Cook County Jail where executions were no longer carried out.

Cops particularly were fond of the death penalty. I somehow thought killing these killers was both beneficial and necessary back then. I never thought for even a second that we’d ever kill an innocent man. That was only fodder for TV scriptwriters, as in the story of The Fugitive, Dr. Richard Kimball.

Years later DNA became an investigative tool that gained wide acceptance as an infallible way to establish the guilt or innocence of the accused. A funny thing happened along the way. The clear-ups of murders everywhere went from the high 80s percentile to nearly half that. Instead of implicating more of the guilty, the opposite was happening. We were letting people we had already arrested go after being cleared by DNA evidence.

The inescapable conclusion to all this was that we killed a Hell of a lot of innocent people along the way. Then you begin to wonder about the other convictions where DNA was never involved. I also wonder what DNA could have done for Carol Chessman the rapist executed so long ago. This is the part where I jumped off the train to death Row just like Richard Kimball. I no longer wanted this part of crime and punishment.

12/14/2005 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YEAH, UM OK... SURE YOU WERE THE POLICE. I COULD ALMOST HEAR THE VIOLENS PLAYING WHILE I READ THAT NOVEL!!!!

12/14/2005 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 07:13, if you really believe that DNA crap then you should be even more in favor of the ultimate punishment since now only the guilty will fry!!!!

12/14/2005 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Crimefile said...

Next time you're at 26th & Cal for court. Get a quick tour of the old jail. I suspect that the old Death Row cells are still in th basement there.

DNA is not the end all crime tool that people think. It's only as good at the integrity of the cops collecting and the lab techs testing the stuff.

To me street justice is so much more positive. You see the offender on view, in the act and you STOP the offender for good.

We all love to see crime victims fighting back killing the offenders.

12/14/2005 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Execution is the best way to guarantee killers from killing again. Only problem: What if you make a mistake? Even if it's only .05% of the time, you're still killing someone who is innocent. So far no one has figured out how to revive someone who has been executed.

I'm not a bleeding heart, and for the killers of the world, fuck em. But until you can be 100% sure who you're putting down, we shouldn't kill anyone. Life in solitary confinement is the answer.

12/14/2005 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well on that we agree... nothing like dishing out the ultimate punishment while on-viewing the asshole in the act (saving my own sorry ass at the same time). had that burden only once so far but didn't lose a wink of sleep over it. it's a shitty part of this job that luckily most will never have to live with. but unfortunately there are many people among us that don't deserve to be on this earth and wouldn't hesitate for even a second to take our lives. so make sure you don't hesitate when that once in a lifetime moment comes along. if you are in fear for your life or of receiving great bodily harm you are justified in using deadly force! its a shame what happened to that copper that recently got shot in the leg. thank god he is ok. but it seems more and more coppers today are second guessing themselves. from what i heard they thought that the bad guy had a cell phone in his hand thus giving him that split second to shoot first. never second guess!!! if he pointed it at you and you shoot first and later find it to be a cellphone... oh well!!! if i remember correctly, that female copper shot and killed some woman that had a phone in her hand. never charged with anything. reason she got canned was for all the stupidity that took place before that ( continuing terminated chase, etc, etc). but when she feared for her life during the shooting it was justifiable homicide.

anyway, god bless all my brothers and sisters in blue, be safe and have a great christmas!

12/14/2005 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question, Why do the retired guys need to carry guns? Are they gonna go back to the westside and walk about in the 011th, 015,or any of those other wastelands? Gee it sounds like they are nuts and should be refused that right. Are all you old guys that GOOFY!

12/14/2005 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, they just want to be tough! And live like the old days when they were young and dumb. They can wear their pants high up on their chest like the mall walkers. Then brag about how they used to kick ass over coffee at dunkin donuts. Come on goober let it go....

12/14/2005 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What coppers were taken out of 001 in cuffs yesterday? Heard some were taken out of med sec too.

12/14/2005 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez, you sound like that goofy recruit in the academy who kept asking if she really needed to pass the firearms part of the test becasue she never intended to pull her gun on the street anyway. I for one welcome a unseen trained police force out on the streets as backup, expecially in the nicer parts of town to keep the riff raff guessing.

12/14/2005 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would retirees want to carry? The same reason joe citizen in the 35 states that have MUST ISSUE concealed carry permits do. Then there are the other nine states that have MAY ISSUE carry laws.

Very few if any retirees are chomping at the bit to do police work again, they have just seen how easy it is to be a victim and don't want to become one themselves.

12/14/2005 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>reason she got canned was for all the stupidity that took place before that ( continuing terminated chase, etc, etc). but when she feared for her life during the shooting it was justifiable homicide.<<

I don't mean to divert the reader's attention from the ongoing debate as to whether old people are, uhm, old people, but I would like to address the quote above.

I think the author has taken Hillard's and Daley's bullshit hook, line and sinker.

"Continuing terminated chase... etc. etc. etc."? BULLSHIT. It was phrased as a conditional order on the radio. In other words, "terminate if its only for traffic".

But by then the offender had already committed aggravated battery by trying to run at least one officer down (after the initial traffic stop, but as a trigger for the chase being initiated).

It "looked" like the officers played games by not acknowledging their radios, but who really was to say? The condition for the conditional order was not satisfied, so the order was ineffective. Thus, failure to obey an order to terminate was not a just cause for punishment in any way.

The fact that Superintendent Mealy-mouth and Mayor McKickback publicly condemned the officers does not mean that they actually did anything wrong.

Nothing more than another mark of shame on Hillard's record.

12/14/2005 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's time to stop playing into the hands of the mayor and phillip "does my appearance command respect" kline, and stop these racist posts. Although we have said before, that it wouldn't surprise us if half of these type of posts were coming right from macho hands" himself, the other half are coming from us, and we should know better.

12/14/2005 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous "Chicago's Finest" said...

8:04 and 8:08 AM

Good morning, Mister Mare.

We have a gift for you and Maggie. A lifetime membership in the NRA.

Merry Christmas, Richie.

12/14/2005 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: 07:13:07

Great story, well written, no spelling errors, historical with a contemporary application, no mention of 016....

You are a good writer but not the police. Only write about things you know about.

Tookies should rot in hell , all of them.

12/14/2005 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Crimefile said...

Guess again 12/14/2005 09:45:33 AM, I went through the old academy on O'brien Street when Lt. Robert McCann was the training director (Gee, am I that fuckin' old?)and served in 001 for a short time and 012 under Ronnie Nash before he went to the joint.

12/14/2005 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Crimefile said...

Oh I forgot to say in 001 my boss was Paul McGlaughlin who some say should have gone to the joint with Ronnie Nash.

12/14/2005 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous who's your daddy? said...

While I strongly favor imposition of the death penalty under certain circumstances, I can attest to the fact that "crimefile" is ex-CPD.

Re: Any old-timers remember when then Capt. Ronnie Nash use to bring Queenesther (from the Madison St. "stroll") into the W/C's office at the old Fillmore for "personal counseling" behind closed doors?

He'd always walk out later with that shit-eating grin on his face.

12/14/2005 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous YU NO HU said...

Dear Crimefile:

(12/14/2005 07:13:07 AM & others...)

Thanks for that excellent post- SALUTE!

- YU NO HU ;->

12/14/2005 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHO'S YER DADDY INDEED!

NICE WAKE UP CALL FOR ALL THESE 2-YEAR WONDER GRIM REAPERS, CRIMEFILE!

LOOK IN THE MIRROR DEEP ROOK- MAYBE YOU'RE THE PRETENDER?

"WHEN YOU LOOK INTO AN ABYSS, THE ABYSS ALSO LOOKS INTO YOU"

DO NOT PERMIT YOURSELF TO SINK TO THE LEVEL OF THOSE YOU HUNT

12/14/2005 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:42 .05% is O.K. w/me. You rarely see a choir boy on death row.
Hey Leftlovesthebeast the governor didn't sentence that man to death. It was done in a court of law and upheld under numerous appeals in the most liberal state in the land. He is not supposed to overrule the court on a whim or due to his own moral standards. Only George Ryan can to that. There was zero credible evidence that this guy didn't do the crime.

12/14/2005 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your post, except for the part about the most liberal state. Hawaii, yes it's a state, is full of tree hugging babies.

12/14/2005 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee are all you cops such girlie-men that you need that gun with you everywhere? Seems like baby bottle for most of you! Next you will want armored cars and air support to protect your silly asses! If your that scared get into another line of work!

12/14/2005 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the tip, Richie.

12/14/2005 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then go move to one of those gun friendly states, getto states will always hate GUNS!

12/14/2005 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous "travelin' man" said...

12:19 & 12:40 PM

I've visited all fifty states. Other than the fine citizens of "Southie" (South Boston), I submit that Massachusetts is the "most liberal" state in the union. A visit to the Peoples' Republic of Cambridge and Northampton in the Berkshires is almost as surreal as planet Mars.

In reality, California is rather conservative politically. However, those damn high-profile Hollywood celebrity types and San Francisco give you a skewed "fruits and nuts" impression.

12/14/2005 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 12:57.

Another ignorant ass who doesn't have a clue. A guy on my tact team saved a woman from being robbed at gunpoint in beverly and was able to shoot the offender because he had his shit on him-OFF DUTY. The offender was ready to shoot first. All you liberal civilians who take hours, days, or weeks to criticize an officer's decision that he had a whole split second to spend making. 75% of you would be shitting in your pants if put in that situation. But I keep forgetting, the police have these superhuman powers. We are supposed to be able to shoot the guns out of the bad guys hands or wrestle the gun away from them. I wish I had a dime for everytime some nit wit asked my why the police had to shoot that "Poor teenager". Why couldn't they just shoot the gun out of his hand....N-P!!!

12/14/2005 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which sits in San Francisco, is infamous for their liberal and oft-reversed decisions, Orange County's electorate is one of the most conservative in the land.

When you put 35,000,000 people together, you certainly get all types, the lefties invariably more vocal than the mainstream Californians.

12/14/2005 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:57

You're probably the same ashole that screams why the police didn't do anything when something happens to you. Go back to your little gated north shore suburb.

12/14/2005 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous katie couric said...

But the airline passenger suffered from mental instability. Couldn't the air marshal shoot him in the hand?

P.S.: With age fifty approaching, aren't I perky?

12/14/2005 01:40:00 PM  
Blogger sharky said...

A note to all of those non-police citizens who peruse this site and can't understand why police officers may want to carry their weapons off duty------Have you ever been followed home from work by someone who just got out of jail on an arrest you made? Have you ever ran into someone in the supermarket, while shopping with your family, who you put away for 3 years for Armed Robbery? The guy approaches you to remind you that he can follow you everywhere? It happened to me twice in the mid 1990's, and if it weren't for the fact I flashed my gun and said I know where his family lives, my family and I would have been in great danger. Oh, and by the way, cellphones were extremely unreliable in terms of coverage area as late as the mid 1990's in the Beverly---Morgan Park---Ashburn neighborhoods, so calling for help on that may not have been a viable option. As the old saying goes, don't judge someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes. As many people can testify from my previous postings, I rarely weigh in on controversial issues, because it just ends up in a bitter contest of name calling in this type of forum. However, I can speak from personal experience why concealed carry is a necessary evil

12/14/2005 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:57 This site is for Chicago Police, not wannabes. Your opinion is not valued here. I don't go to your blogsite (Secondcitygasstationattendant) and voice my opinion.

12/14/2005 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tookie Williams

"We will remember Tookie for what he stood for"....... Snoop Dogg

These pictures tell what this animal stood for
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/tookiewilliamsvictims.html

12/14/2005 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tookie rots! Tough mierda' Lefty. Maybe you could help Snoop Dogg and the rest of his homies bury Tookie "like the noble statesman he was".

12/14/2005 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has Tookie risen yet? I figure the way everyone was making him out to be holier than thou having redeemed himself, he must have risen.

Wait, it hasn't been three days yet....Tookie will rise Friday. right?

12/15/2005 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has it been three days? I would say "roll back the rock", but Tookie might smoke it instead.

12/15/2005 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 12/14/2005 03:34:06 PM,

The pictures were moving. It pisses me off though that the people who posted them feel obligated to label it, "Alleged" victims of Tookie Williams.

Political Correctness run amok.

12/15/2005 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 1:31 You must be another of those silly ass coppers who go and walk around shit-hole nieghborhoods off-duty so you can prove how tough you are! Sounds like another goof that should be disarmed and beaten with a belt! I know a gun=big balls.

12/15/2005 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it's Friday and Tookie hasn't risen! Looks like he's not holier than thou and really was a piece of shit!

12/16/2005 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 1:59

Let me guess. Another dreadlocked wicker park kid who grew up in Glencoe but now wants to experience the whole "urban" lifestyle. Then gets stupid at some bar, gets locked up, and now has a hardon for the police. See you at the next anti-war rally, banging on your 5 gal. bucket.

12/16/2005 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey crimefile,
do NOT copy from books

12/20/2005 08:14:00 AM  

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