Wednesday, May 31, 2006

"Mini-Riot" Follow Up

Someone asked that we throw up an open post to further discuss the "mini-riot" in 011. We've also noticed a boatload of hits coming our way from the Fire Department's unofficial website because it was related to some of our correspondents that a "Big Wheel" in CFD related that CFD would be refusing calls for service in the area of the rioting due to safety issues. We can't say we blame them.

Have at it. Keep it clean. Regular rules apply.

91 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

FIRST

5/31/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First and what bout the mini-riot in Leclaire Courts?

More of the same?

5/31/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn, so I wasn't really first, but at least I asked a relative question!!!!

5/31/2006 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why wasnt TRU there? Don't they work till 0300 on weekends? Hmmmm.....

5/31/2006 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard coppers from 012 retreated like bitches?????

5/31/2006 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why wasnt TRU there? Don't they work till 0300 on weekends? Hmmmm.....

5/31/2006 09:00:10 PM

Were they requested? If not, and they were assigned to 007 or something like that, how the hell are they supposed to know what's going on in 011? And even if they knew, if they weren't specifically told to go, who's fault is that? Hmmmm?

5/31/2006 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey bitches, how about we stay on topic?

5/31/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave TRU alone. I'm sure the "elite anti-gang unit" was very busy on 1811 arrests.

5/31/2006 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or on their second book of parkers

5/31/2006 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey bitches, how about we stay on topic?

5/31/2006 09:23:50 PM

What the fuck are you on about? They're all pretty much on topic...except FOR YOU! (and now me )

5/31/2006 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there something in the wind, might there be something ominous brewing in the streets of Chicago.
Pray tell, are there no signs or feelings of impending doom and gloom. Stay tuned to our next exciting chapter of "Street Life"

Staring: Fat Phil as himself
Da Mayor: whats his name?
GirlyMan: Hubberman
TRU Unit: actually TMA'S
and a cast of thousands...

5/31/2006 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why wasnt TRU there? Don't they work till 0300 on weekends? Hmmmm.....

5/31/2006 09:00:10 PM

Were they requested? If not, and they were assigned to 007 or something like that, how the hell are they supposed to know what's going on in 011? And even if they knew, if they weren't specifically told to go, who's fault is that? Hmmmm?

5/31/2006 09:19:18 PM

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TRU PO's are specifically told NOT to go on their own to other hot spots. Regardless of incident nature. TRU PO's *CANNOT* re-deploy themselves. They work the DOC areas that they are told to. Re-depolyment orders come from above Commander levels.

5/31/2006 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can tell you how to notify citywide field units quickly under many circumstances. Have an event simulcasted as a 10-1, and ask the dispatcher to make it clear that its a call for a plan.

Circumstances:
Comfort Zone 1995 on zone 4, first watch. Shooting in the club, very large crowd disturbance outside at closing. 1899 comes on the air and CALMLY asks "squad, please simulcast this as a 10-1, request available units citywide and from all districts as appropriate". Plan 5 plus. Everybody and their brother did respond. At 2:00 to 3:30 in the morning.

Second:
3rd district on zone 7 in 1996 or 1997, maybe 2200 or 2300 hours?? 3rd district gang car reports his partner shot (turns out unfounded) on the south side of 003 towards 75th street. Simulcast a 10-1 and broadcast "units in OR AROUND 003, or anywhere on the south side, 33X(A-E??) calling a 10-1 in the xxx block of east 73rd, reporting his partner shot on the street". 2 minutes later a 3rd district car comes up and says there are lights and sirens as far as the eyes can see, and from everywhere on the south side.

Finally, zone 6, circa 1998, 3rd watch. A 7th district foot chase tying up the zone and an 8th district person shot ticket sitting in front of the dispatchers. What to do, what to do? Have the secondary simulcast OFF OF THE ZONE (i.e., not on zone 6, but on all of the citywides) and inform that the zone is tied up but it will be broadcast and assigned as soon as possible... if any citywide cars are available to respond please do so.

As soon as the foot chase was secured and the person shot was broadcast on zone 6, detective and SOS cars put out a flash because they appreciated the circumstances and responded, in some cases from a fair distance away.

All I'm saying is, if you need citywide cars and manpower, than ask for it. I bash the non-district-patrol units as much as anyone, but if you need them, you can find a dozen or a hundred or a thousand officers, as appropriate.

5/31/2006 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why wasnt TRU there? Don't they work till 0300 on weekends? Hmmmm.....

5/31/2006 09:00:10 PM

Were they requested? If not, and they were assigned to 007 or something like that, how the hell are they supposed to know what's going on in 011? And even if they knew, if they weren't specifically told to go, who's fault is that? Hmmmm?

5/31/2006 09:19:18 PM

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...nor can we say we are surprised.

5/31/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how would you like to be one of those yuppies that bought a condo at sacremento/madison for 300,000.00 ?
after witnessing a MINI RIOT and woundering what if it was for real and knowing that the market is declining......
how will you ever unload it?

5/31/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever posted TRU is actually TMA is fantastic

5/31/2006 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I'm saying is, if you need citywide cars and manpower, than ask for it. I bash the non-district-patrol units as much as anyone, but if you need them, you can find a dozen or a hundred or a thousand officers, as appropriate.

5/31/2006 10:14:55 PM

I've been CW1 for the last 1 and a half years now. CW1 sucks. WE NEVER HEAR THE IMPORTANT STUFF. It's always TMAs and their bull sh!t drama or Mass Tranist and their bull sh!t name checks at 10x volume with a train flying past them.

Guys, if it's a white guy from Batavia who's only crime is smoking his Cuban on the Red line at Fullerton, skip the name check! What do you expect to hear?

418xA (with El train roaring by): SQUAD! NAME CHECK! LAST NAME: W-A-S-H-I-N-G-T-O-N, FIRST NAME: G-E-O-E-R-G-E, MALE, WHITE, 6/1, 185, D.O.B.: 11-NOV-45, ADDRESS: 123 C.E.O. BLVD, BATAVIA, IL 60001

Dispatcher (and everyone else noticing that 418xA did not wait to be acknowledged): Dude, he's clear shut up.

Did you think he'll pop a Accounting Fraud warrant? Save us all your nonsence and just write him his ANOV, please!

CW1 SERIOUSLY blows. With a 2 man car, one guy has to keep his old ass hardly working double dot radio on the zone. Good luck with that god aweful double dot switch. 2x dot 1 = CW1, but 1x dot 1 = Zone 1 (016/017). At night, if your vest knocks the switch over to 016/017 forget it you'll be wonsering why the radio is so quiet.

Don't even get me started with the PDTs!!!!

5/31/2006 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Were they requested? If not, and they were assigned to 007 or something like that, how the hell are they supposed to know what's going on in 011? And even if they knew, if they weren't specifically told to go, who's fault is that? Hmmmm?

5/31/2006 09:19:18 PM

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...nor can we say we are surprised.

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Sorry, this was meant to be directed at those lazy ass firemen.

5/31/2006 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
how would you like to be one of those yuppies that bought a condo at sacremento/madison for 300,000.00 ?
after witnessing a MINI RIOT and woundering what if it was for real and knowing that the market is declining......
how will you ever unload it?

5/31/2006 10:19:09 PM

Better have your Armagedon-bag!

5/31/2006 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRU works till 0300??? hahahahahahaha, not in this lifetime!!!

5/31/2006 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous "baddest station in the nation" said...

Some old memories of the positive aspects of the RIOTS in old Fillmo' including the MLK riot. We were working a day power car in 011 when it started at mid-day at Pulaski and Madison the day after MLK was murdered.

"Students" from Marshall, Austin and Farragut High Schools converged there. First the bottles and rocks started flying, always from the back of the mob. Then the breaking glass windows and looting everywhere. Within hours, stores on Madison St. were ablaze and the worst mobs of "adults" started shit on Pulaski Rd. between Madison and the Ike, just like the previous CFD firehouse riot at Wilcox & Pulaski. Sporadic gunfire, sniping, constant 10-1s, gas stations and bars shut down per Cmdr. Sims. We coded out burglaries and other felonies that ordinarily required paper with 19-Pauls. Just bailing our brothers out of the ubiquitous 10-1 emergencies with the rioters.

We got the job done but frankly, I feared we'd never get out of there alive. As our veteran mentors taught us, the time your heart doesn't skip a few beats on a gun run, you're primed for dead meat. Fear keeps you safe.

National Guard and outside units were detailed in by daylight.

On a positive note, I can't imagine any unit in CPD history ever experiencing the bond of camaraderie and the esprit de corps that the Fillmore guys shared. We were BLUE to the core, covering each others asses at every turn.

I will not deny it. I am very proud of the fact that I worked the bloody streets of 011 during those tumultuous times. You might liken Fillmore pride to being a member of the 82nd or 101st Airborne or our soldiers in Fallujah and Anwar Province. Non-stop action and damnit, you learned more about caution and "real" policing in that hellhole in six months than many officers experience in their entire careers. While most of us never shot anyone, we'd have our weapons drawn several times each tour including most street stops.

Afterwards, usually over a few beers, the Fillmore guys reflected on lots of laughs, many of which will never be posted here.

As a newer officer, my partner instructed me to drive away the looters and wineheads from the front door of Rothschilds liquor store at "Whip-it" (Whipple) and Madison, SE corner, while he "secured" the rear. Partner Joe lived only a couple blocks away on Warren Blvd.

About an hour later, I went to the rear to check out for Joe. There he was with his pick-up truck at the back door, the bed packed with cases of whiskey. Joe even had the balls to offer me one fifth of Crown Royal. I declined and returned to "guard" the front door.

Then again, maybe it was just a nightmare because in Fillmo', I never saw, heard or spoke any evil. A few inspectors even searched the trunks of all of our squad cars after 12 hour plus tours and found nothing.

As a survivor, I don't expect most of you to understand this. A riot can be fun--AFTERWARDS!

5/31/2006 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess contact cards and impounds are more important than officers in need of help. Arent there 150 TRU guys on any given night? Must be alot of ghost payrolling cause I work in 007 and i never see them!!!!

5/31/2006 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I guess contact cards and impounds are more important than officers in need of help. Arent there 150 TRU guys on any given night? Must be alot of ghost payrolling cause I work in 007 and i never see them!!!!

5/31/2006 10:48:32 PM

Why is 007 so important?

5/31/2006 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous 025 copper... said...

I heard they called for 016 to respond also but their cars would not go past Belmont like those shopping carts at Target.....

5/31/2006 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:48:32 PM

Thats probably because youre hidding some where like a little girl.

5/31/2006 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any info about the Police Shooting on 1300 S Troy

5/31/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very little info on the shooting. abc 7 had only a sentance about it.

More to follow..stay tuned......

5/31/2006 11:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To baddest station in the nation...........
You writting style stands out like your DNA J.N. :)

5/31/2006 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:47, that is exactly why street disturbances should never be let out of hand, whether at midday or midnight.

You got 40 or 400 people on the street, call 15 wagons and 300 POs and bring EVERYBODY in. Commandeer CTA busses and call for the plastic bracelets. But it is NEVER worth it to back down.

Sorry to say this, but it sounds like your bosses then were as worthless as most today who back down in the same manner.

And coding burglar alarms during a riot? Dude, that is wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to start. Except. With. The. Bosses. 19-P everything that doesn't involve aggravated injury or an immediate threat of one, per 11x0, though most everything should be read quicly on the air.

OK, I'll say something nice about Cline here. He. Made. Cuello. Exempt. One of the only sergeants who ever had the balls to do exactly this in exigent circumstances. And I'll be damned if one of the first qualifications I'd look for in a sergeant wouldn't be the exercise of discretion in allocating resources under abnormal circumstances.

5/31/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. We weren't assigned to 007.

2. As far as I know we weren't called for either.

3. If you guys are such F**KING SUPERSTARS, WHAT DO YOU NEED TRU FOR???????? We're all 2 yr wonders remember, what can we do?????

4. Now leave me alone so I can get my impound, parkers, movers, 1 bagger, etc...etc...

Sincerely Yours,

your 2 yr wonder

5/31/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me why the Bosses in the 12th Dist. allow their officers to ticket fellow officers cars that are parked around the police academy with emblems on the bumper and hat bands on the mirror? I know 3 officers from different districts who were doing in service training there and they all went to the 12th Dist. and the desk sgt. told them there was nothing they could do except pay it!! Fuck that!!!

5/31/2006 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know 2 cops from 10th Dist. who got tickets while they were at in service training at the academy and they called for the officer who wrote them to meet them at the academy and the coward never showed up

5/31/2006 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Crooker said...

cowards! not one of you will tell TRU this to their faces. Cowards! by the way WHO TOOK MY FUCKIN PANTS! I'M NOT KIDDING, I WANT TO KNOW.

5/31/2006 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

11:16:25 PM

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Like 10:47, I too was on the scene at the riots in Fillmore. We never "backed down", asshole. Squadrol upon squadrol of prisoners were housed.

We didn't take any shit from anyone. Simply stated, we were exponentially outmanned by thousands of rioting motherfuckers as we sped between non-stop TEN-ONES!

The bosses in Fillmore, including the late George Sims were the very best and were right in the middle of all the shit.

Burglar ALARMS were ignored. Apparently bonafide burglaries without offenders on scene were coded out.

You've got a lot of fucking nerve, "dude".

How dare you!

Fuck you, "dude"!

5/31/2006 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Northside!

I bet you the 10:47 know-it-all is a current boss without a clue.

6/01/2006 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take it easy Northern, I didn't attack the guy or you.

Crowds don't automatically jump from 2 to 2000. And the thing about "coding" was that not one of you should have had to. A boss with balls would have made it clear within 10 seconds of determining what was happening. As I said, these bosses largely still don't exist, and if nobody stepped up to make sure that the raise/read/acknowledge practice was suspended, than your bosses were idiots, though they may have had balls. An idiot might not have realized that this stuff is within his discretion. Though a smart boss would, and a smart boss with balls would and does do this.

I don't care if it took 15 minutes to get out of control from when the kids started gathering. The point I was making, overall, was that it is NEVER acceptable to accept this situation from the moment it develops.

You got a few hundred or a few thousand at 2 AM in Garfield Park (like last weekend)? Deal with it, or it happens every weekend, or it turns into what eventually happened to you guys in the MLK riots.

Seriously, take a few deep breaths. Its not that hard, and it was NOT an attack on you or him. Its not even really an attack on Sims and whether he has balls. Quite a few bosses have no idea what it means to make a decision like this. Strangely, an occasional peon does, and makes it waaaay out of their own authority. As does an occasional lowly supervisor, such as Cuello as sergeant.

Dozens of supervisors on the air, and only one lowly one is willing to think and say "19-P [most categories of jobs, wholesale] per me".

But hey, maybe I'm just from a generation of peons that learned these lessons from the failures of the 60s.

Good day, dude!

6/01/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And having just reread my post, it was almost entirely directed at the Garfield Park disturbance and explaining that YOUR experiences show why backing down at Garfield Park ain't too bright.

But I'm sure you guys did your best. The 60's turned out alright for everybody because of your generation, right?

6/01/2006 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 11:16 jagoff assumes that "plastic bracelets" were available in the sixties.

Back then, it was all guns, nightsticks, saps and steel cuffs.

6/01/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of calling a "10-1" they should have called TRU!! They are the real po-po

6/01/2006 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only time TRU can be redeployed is by the Commander or above, just because a Sgt. or W/C requests TRU or SOS doesn't mean they are getting them. Now, if TRU or SOS is even remotely close, they respond anyway, but when they are at the other end of the city, unless it comes from the Commander or ADS it isn't happening. Sorry, not our choice...

6/01/2006 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/01/2006 01:15:56 AM

Your God Dam Right! When Tru gets redeployed to something everyone in the whole fucking district knows it. Keep talking shit about City wide units but the fact of the matter is that when it comes down to it any copper from Tru or Sos would bust their ass to help out any other unit in this department. Ask the 8th district about the Plane crash and house explosion last year Or the 3rd district about when one of their Tact guys got shot.

6/01/2006 01:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably the only current boss that was around back in the King riots was Deputy Chief Radke.

6/01/2006 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NORTHSIDE
How do you remember anything about the king riots, i recall you were on furlo and didn't come back til the fires were out.

6/01/2006 02:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sims would have been a better boss if he could have abstained from the gambling and dope activities with Rick Miller.

6/01/2006 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hey, my name is northside, and every single day there were 5,000 beasts on the streets in 011 rioting. Myself and a couple other good guys would go out there and lock 'em all up. You kids don't know what you're talking about"!

Hey northside, here's a thought. YOU ARE RETIRED. LET GO ALREADY. THE JOB AND THE WORLD HAVE PASSED YOU BY. POLICING AS YOU KNEW IT DIED 15 YEARS AGO. ITS A NEW DAY. SO SIT BACK, REMINISCE ABOUT YOUR HIPPY-COMMUNIST-HATE THE POLICE-PROTESTING DAYS AND SPEAK TO THOSE TOPICS WHICH YOU KNOW ABOUT LIKE WHAT IS THE BEST DENTURE SEALANT AND THE COVER STORY OF THE AARP NEWSLETTER.

6/01/2006 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

02:45
northside lockup those 5000 offenders on the first day alone.
He was the best of the best and the hostess with the mostess.
If you don't beleive me just axe me.
Tyrone

6/01/2006 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tur was rerquested and we were denied..."they only come out on shootings"....based on the crowd cars were requested and kept comming untill we had enough to move the masses out... the officers that responded did a great job... this is just another case of shifts being short...

6/01/2006 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask the 8th district about the Plane crash and house explosion last year Or the 3rd district about when one of their Tact guys got shot.

6/01/2006 01:36:32 AM

Hummm lets see I was at the explosion and didnt TRU knock on doors to see if people were ok and do traffic control???? If you say they didnt your a fuckin liar. Sounds more and more like TMA work to me.

6/01/2006 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

31 May,2006 11:26...It's called parking "Legally" and that standing order comes from ADS TOBIAS so don't blame the coppers in 012 they are doing as they're told by the ADS....mabye if you listened and parked legally....you wouldn't be in this predicament?? or...even a better idea...why don't you be the department representative and schedule a meeting with ADS TOBIAS and vent your frustrations at him and let us know how that goes ok? another dickhead who thinks he can do whatever the fuck he wants and get away with it ...it's 2006 wake the fuck up,the general public have no respect for the police and the department has no respect for their own people....so what do you expect?? Follow the rules and stay out of trouble...plain and simple..don't draw attention to yourself and for GOD's SAKE dont get parking tickets and give this fucking city a dime of your money!!!

6/01/2006 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you guys that think it's funny to bash or ridicule Northside should sit themselves down and take stock of themselves. Northside was on the job when it meant something to say that you were a Chicago Police Officer. It was a time when the CPD and people of Northerns caliber were the REAL POLICE. They were not doing seatbelt missons, writing contact cards, DOC missions,SOP missions, POD missions or any other of the stupid things that a beat Officer is required to do today, they were out doing Police work in an enviorment that could be compared to a typical day in places like Baghdad. It was a time when EVERBODY and I do mean everbody absolutely hated the Police. The only friend you had was one of your partners or another Officer. I dare say that there has not been an event here since those days that can compare in intensity or longevity. So instead of making fun of people like Northside, you should be asking him if he would meet you for coffee so that you could pick his brain and perhaps learn something. That is if you were smart.
BTW, I was not on the job back then but I remember those days well. Nor where my comments meant to attack or diminish the work we do today. But some of you should show a little respect to this man and thank him and his kind for what they did when times were alot tougher than they are now.

6/01/2006 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:22, you old guys sound a wee bit defensive. The post was directed at lessons from the past that could be used to determine how to do thing today. Didn't you baby boomers save the world?

6/01/2006 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This bickering has to stop because you know why.....

Becaue Seiser says so!!!!

6/01/2006 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geeze..I know many retirees that worked during those times as Northside describes.

I think it's much harder today, due to the fact that we are under a microscope being watched by every aldercreature/reverend/community activist.

This done now because Police officers of the past would split some mopes head open from ear-to-ear for spitting, etc.

Another thing, there were dogs on the job then that would do absolutely nothing but spend their day driving all over the city for "free" stuff. (example, wrigley's gum, dial soap, etc.) just show up at the factory side door and they'd fill the trunk.

Lastly, I know many of those same retirees who's wives stayed home to raise kids..4-5 kids, all went to private schools, and colleges, some even law school, and the retiree still could afford second homes in Wisconsin, Michigan, or Florida. ALL ON A PO's TAKEHOME SALARY! Is it because they clipped coupons? HELL NO!

It's because they were as bad as some criminals. (SHAKING DOWN THE PUBLIC..Ex.TRAFFIC STOPS, THE BAR CAR..EVERY DISTRICT HAD ONE, SHAKING DOWN TAVERN OWNERS,and pulling the car up to Rothschild's liquors during civil unrest and filling the trunk with booze. ("hey, it's insured..19-p")

I heard stories like this all the time growing up, the P.O. getting the new cadillac every year..just by working traffic!

So save your high-and-mighty shit for some-one else.

Today most P.O.s are just getting by, their wives work too, and we don't own summer homes. Plus we are constantly being accused of being heavy handed or of police brutality because of the legacy you guy's handed us!(ex. I've never split Joe's head open ear-to-ear, but they all allege that because they know they will be believed by a city and a department that doesn't BACK-UP it's officers!

It's funny all the old timers now who were recruits back then are getting ready to retire with anywhere from 4000-9000 hours time due on the books.

I'll be lucky to have 2000. These same ass-hole bosses with their 10,000 hours on-the-books(all stolen) are the same jag-offs who look at us side-ways if we get a couple hours here or there!(They act like we're taking it from their pocket)

BUT, I KNOW..YOU WERE A WORKER, THE REAL POLICE. I'M A DOG-ASS.(sarcassim)

6/01/2006 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>pulling the car up to Rothschild's liquors during civil unrest and filling the trunk with booze<<

Funny 'bout that. One was racing from 10-1 to 10-1, 'cept when responding to and coding burglaries that otherwise would have required paper. The other was chasing off looters and then guarding the front door of liquor stores while his partner looted through the rear door.

Yup, the '60s turned out great on their watch. Half a million or more taxpayers fled the city, half the taxpaying neighborhoods got emptied out. In the wake of the Summerdale scandal it was POUNDED in the heads of most to just keep responding to 9-1-1 call after 9-1-1 call, and none of their revered bosses could even imagine coming up on the air and saying "we ain't doing that today".

The kids today have it worse in a lot of ways, but if there's one thing thats consistent its the lack of any quality leadership.

Strangely, I agree with Northern's lenghty diatribes about the fixed system. Its perplexing though that he still would defend any boss who was promoted to such a position under the fixed system.

Ya can't have it both ways.

PO or criminal? Fixed bosses or legit? You decide and use their own admissions on this thread as a basis.

6/01/2006 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hummm lets see I was at the explosion and didnt TRU knock on doors to see if people were ok and do traffic control???? If you say they didnt your a fuckin liar. Sounds more and more like TMA work to me.

Who cares what they did, they responded and did what was asked of them, saw plenty of tac guys in uniform doing traffic too, are they tma's as well, shut the fuck up with your bullshit already, the tru shit is old already.

6/01/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

TO:

My alcoholic "nemesis" (LOL) that predictably went on a four post, 43 minute "rampage" in the wee hours (2:25, 2:27, 2:45 and 3:08) of this morning.

Your jealous, cowardly back-stabbing speaks for your miserable self. I could have contacted you directly. But no, let the blog readers form their own opinion. It is what it is.

The best thing you can do for yourself is get into a good 12 step rehab program. You're pathetic and desperately need help.

6:17 AM

While I'm grateful to you for the back-up, I actually got a chuckle out of this feckless jagoff. Nonetheless, my thanks, my brother. You kind words humble me. Drop me a line anytime at cpdfop7@yahoo.com

8:42 AM

I strongly agree and disagree with some of your statements. We'll save the specifics for another time.

Rest assured that I am well aware that there are guys, perhaps yourself, that are still out there doing a outstanding job against overwhelming odds including the fact that you have little or no support from the upper echelon of the CPD. Add to that this "political correctness" bullshit and that every mutt you see has a digital camera. You carry the torch as "the REAL PO-leece". God help you! God bless you!

9:14 AM

You must agree that while all exempts, then and now, are political sycophants, the current crop, with some exceptions, is an utter disgrace in terms of leadership.

They will follow da mare's every whim in lockstep, guzzling the Kool-Aid propaganda, as troop morale is all but non-existent. It's so tragic.
My heart goes out to those proud guys (and gals) that somehow still get the job done.

May God bless "the REAL PO-leece'

6/01/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to see you took your pills Northside, I was starting to get worried about you!

6/01/2006 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

08:42

A thirty year pre-retiree has probably earned 4000 hours from holiday overtime that he didn't squander. By the early 1970's what had been going on wasn't any more. Why? Scores went to jail. Oh yeah, the part-time job is not a recent innovation. Many wives worked.The inflation that followed the Arab oil embargo and the Viet Nam War was only on the horizon. A monthly mortgage payment really could be one fourth of one's monthly income. A $35K house could easily be bought on a PO's income of $13,500. Today the house is $400K-$500K on an income of $70K. Interest rates were lower. Private education was a fraction of today's cost. You appear to have confused the late 1960's and the 1970's with the late 1940's and the 1950's. It's best to speak with authority on topics with which you have some knowledge.

6/01/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, you shoulda asked Northside cause as we all know, he KNOWS everything!!! A legend in his own mind.......

6/01/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Have no fear....Sgt. Adam Zlitzky and Jeff "tricky" Trulhar are on the job in 011...they can handle the beast!! or at least his CR#'a against hard working coppers.two real pieces of shit.

6/01/2006 05:15:45 AM
Anonymous said...

Sgt. Adam Zlitzky, you're not kidding!! Acts like he is your buddy and then sticks it up your pooper when you aren't looking. What a two-faced son of a bitch, don't trust this prick as far as you can throw him!!!

6/01/2006 10:24:42 AM

6/01/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Who gives a f*ck what NorthSide said????

6/01/2006 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous 12-19-66 said...

Looks like you struck a raw nerve, Johnny NorthSide.

Rock on!

6/01/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mini-riot in leclaire courts was caused but a moron security guard not CPD who after the animals were throwing rocks and bottles at, someone was firing the security guard fired back and struck a 12 y.o. in the arm and then the animals decided to mini-riot! The city reports about the CICERO CORRIDOR from I-55 to Midway that it needs rehab! Simply move all the animals to Naperville and problem would be eliminated!

6/01/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:27:51
You are right on. The parking enforcement at the academy is a result of complaints by the yuppie neighbors in the area. They have video tape and still photos of illegally parked police officer cars. Tobias and Sodini are trying to prevent a little issue from becoming a bigger issue. Park legally and you won't have to worry. Don't blame the poor beat copper suck in the middle.

6/01/2006 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops..STUCK in the middle. Sorry.

6/01/2006 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trulhar : He's the one who romanced Sgt. Stan Wolak's wife. I think her name was Liz. For another copper to do that he must really be the world's biggest piece of shit

6/01/2006 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WASN'T MATT TOBIAS in the " MARINES " if so he must have been in the same unit as ; PHAT PHIL , DA MARE. CAUSE THEY ALL ACT THE SAME F-U-C-K-E-D U-P !!!

Also I wonder what rank they held ?

PFC PHAT PHIL

CPL MATT da RAT TOBIAS

LT Never showed up DALEY

6/01/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here I sit as an old timer myself collecting my pension reading the bullshit on this blog. To all the new guys on the job. Let me tell you the bullshit you hear is the same I heard 25 years ago. Trust me to all these self proclaimed old time real police you will never measure up. Truth is the job sucks more now than it ever did. I think for you guys it is many times worse than it was for us. Remember something guys it all comes down to the fact it is just a job. Your loyalties are to your families and each other not this stupid job. Be careful and hopefully you'll keep your health and retire. Now I'm retired and you know big deal I was a copper once who really gives a shit? These old war horses you hear on this site need to get a life and get past the fact that once they were the police. You guys are the police now and like always truthfully all the years I was on the job I learned from old timers and new guys alike. So don't listen to the bullshit you guys are the police. Just like bosses let me tell you back then many of them were drunken stealing clout loaded dirtbags. Frank "the rat" Radke is a fine example biggest drunken piece of shit ever on this job but hey all you new guys he was around for the riots. Geez Northside and all you guys get a fricken life will ya. Reminds me of all my fellow Nam vets if ya listen to those guys everybody was an Airborne Ranger I must have been the only 11B in country.

6/01/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There ain't NO WAY IN HELL a P.O. making $70 K can afford a 300/400K house!!!! Who are you kidding!???? I clear at least 80/85 with special employment and some and I do mean some/little overtime! My wife makes about 25/27K too and we barely cut it, barely. All I have are the basics, a house, a car each cause we gotta work (nothing special either). No boat, no summer home, no lexus, caddy, BMW, vette, no Harley. Some credit debt, nothing major, and I paid $200k for my house with the 25% needed for down payment not a mansion either! So there is no way in hell! And the stuff being said earlier above hours on the books, TRUE AS HELL! These f'n Capt's and Lt's always giving shit to a P.O. for any O.T., little as it may be! Acting like it coming out of their own pockets. Sickening! As they as talk shit and collect oh about 90k to 110K without O.T. Think all the bosses forgot what it was like to be a P.O. once, you know. Give us a break here and there. No fucking wonder why morale is at an all-time low!

6/01/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I shoulda been an alderman!

6/01/2006 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, I'm a Sergeant in one of the areas and you can ask any of the guys who work for me how much OT they get. My mantra is, "It ain't coming out of my pocket. Check the money box, pal!"

Just remember me at Christmas! lol

6/01/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Morale will keep going down because they don't know how to lead. They never heard the phrase, "keep the troops happy, treat them well and they will fight harder." At the end of a meeting the other day a high ranking boss had the P.O.'s leave the room and then he asked the Sgt's "to please try to keep the morale up with the P.O.'s!" This was right after nothing but bad news was given to everyone. Morale doesn't start with the Sgt's, it comes from the top. Besides, if the Sgt's are unhappy also, how are they supposed to "keep the morale?"

6/01/2006 06:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MORALE??????
When was there ever morale? In between a Supt that hasn't been on the street since he saw his dick and too many exempts, made up Capt's and meritorious promotions where is there any room for you lowly po's to have morale??

6/01/2006 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Morale comes from within. You do your job to the utmost of your ability and then you proudly go home. That simple. When you think about the perks of our profession and there are perks...We live like rockstars...Only rockstars don't have the ability to take away another man's freedom and livelihood. Hahaha...Yep, we're not all created equal. Oh, and leave the TRU guys alone. They work hard!!!

6/01/2006 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 6/01/2006 03:40:50 PM You wrote

Trulhar : He's the one who romanced Sgt. Stan Wolak's wife. I think her name was Liz. For another copper to do that he must really be the world's biggest piece of shit

__________________________________

Please provide more information about the above post

6/01/2006 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rockstars????????????
what the fuck are you talking about?
rockstars are hypes, they don't go through them on a hot summer day when they stink. i spend most days soaked in my own sweat dealing with some of the most fucked up people god ever put on this earth.
i live in a 1 br apt and duplicate my car note in fuel costs most months.
OH, you must go to clubs and skip the line and cover charge .....that's what you mean.

6/01/2006 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous dr. barleycorn said...

Our 9:26 PM ROCKSTAR:

That damn Kool-Aid has made you delusional. Try weaning off that shit with a daily fifth of Bacardi 151.

6/01/2006 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Hey, I'm a Sergeant in one of the areas and you can ask any of the guys who work for me how much OT they get. My mantra is, "It ain't coming out of my pocket. Check the money box, pal!"

Just remember me at Christmas! lol

6/01/2006 06:48:37 PM

What the hell do you have to do with overtime, sergeants haven't been able to sign an overtime slip for years now, so who are you shittin'???

6/01/2006 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Morale must be good behind the desk I see 9:26.

6/01/2006 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why the hell would I want to be equated with a rockstar? Man, that 9:26 desk jockey must be living large...No doubt he's driving a Lexus or "ghetto fab" SUV like the pimps and drug dealers sport. He obviously never had the salt burning his retinas because of pain and anguish...This guy is delusional and needs to go back to the streets!

6/02/2006 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. Adam Zelitsky and Sgt.Jeff Truhlar are great bosses and all around nice people................................................................................................................................................in BIZARO WORLD!!!!!

6/02/2006 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE RADIO NAZI RULES!!!!!!!!!!

6/02/2006 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. Adam Zelitsky and Sgt.Jeff Truhlar are great bosses and all around nice people...............................................................

ANYONE WANT THEM? We will trade for just about anything maybe even a few mules from some district looking to clean up a little!

6/02/2006 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

about 90k to 110K without O.T. Think all the bosses forgot what it was like to be a P.O. once, you know. Give us a break here and there. No fucking wonder why morale is at an all-time low!

6/01/2006 06:13:50 PM

-------------

Most of them were never really PO'
s anyway.....

6/02/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Truhlar got tied up with Stan's wife. A PO in 11 and I guess love blossomed I don't know if there still together but he was back in the 90's before he made SGT. and lost his BALLS. My opinion of him , is that he needed a good asskicking for doing what he did. But Stan is a real stand up guy and I guess he said WTF and went on with his likfe. I hope some day Truhlar gets paid back for what he did. FUCK HIM he is a piece of SHIT !!!!!!!

6/02/2006 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the hell do you have to do with overtime, sergeants haven't been able to sign an overtime slip for years now, so who are you shittin'???

Sgts. do sign the slips in the area and units, sorry....

6/02/2006 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anytime the animal starts acting up again in 011 all those bitches need to do is request the 016th Park Car on 3rd Watch ...........Those guys RUN IT....!

The shit will get quieted down PRONTO!

Call us immediately next time BEFORE you let the animal get out of control.

6/02/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bt 1605 couldnt even stop a squirrel let alone a 250lb silverback gorilla!!!!!

6/02/2006 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody die?? One year, then No new posts.......

6/02/2006 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

northside, GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU BABBELING IDIOT. You did more to fuck things up in filmore than anyone else. You were, are and always will be a boob.
You couldn't find you ass with both hands, here's a hint, look around your shoulders, you'll find your head sticking out of you ass.
Who do you think you are, you shithead. Who are you to give advise to younger policemen. You were a wackjob. Excuse me, your still a wackjob. So take your prozac and put each personality to bed. One at a time. I find it offensive to even have you on this blog.
STOP EMBARASSING YOUR SELF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. GO TO SLEEP!

6/06/2006 03:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay so you want 12 steps?
Here they are.
1) get rid of you old limp dick assholes.

2) come out of the closet, now you and tyrone can dance together in public.

3) take your computer away, put a lock on your phone then you can sit quietly with all of the other wackos in the park.

4) take your medicine on a timely basis.

5) wake up, take more medicine, go back to sleep.

6) then, wake up, take more medicime and go back to sleep.

7) thru 12) Repeat numbers 1 to 6.

6/06/2006 04:15:00 AM  

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