Monday, June 19, 2006

Monday Quick Hits

Starting slowly. Recovering. Don't talk too loudly.
  • Murder numbers down 2.5%! Hooray! Of course, looking at the actual numbers, we see that its down from 160 killings last year to ... well ... 156. Four fewer. Whoop de freakin do. Four killings is a 6 hours span of "catch up" in Englewood or Fillmore or even Marquette on a hot day. Seems a little premature to celebrate just before the hot months, but we suppose the mayor and his people need any positive headline they can get.
  • Maybe a refresher trip to the range is in order? LA County Sheriffs shot and killed a motorist. No big deal there, but it took them 70 shots to do it. An unusual occurrence? Not really - it's the third time in 13 months that they've fired more than 50 rounds at a subject. Once they fired 50 rounds at a suspect in a house and last spring they unloaded 120 rounds at a subject. We've heard of a few similar instances in town here, but they are few and far between - anyone know the average number of shots fired by CPD in a deadly force encounter?
  • From Channel 7: "Less than half of Illinois' plans for handling a catastrophe got a passing grade from federal analysts Friday, contradicting the state's own, far more positive assessment." Imagine that - a state report sounding more positive than a federal committee providing oversight to federal funds. We still don't know what the City's plans are or where they're stored or how they're to be executed. But we are sure it'll all be the Department's fault if it all goes to hell.


Anonymous cpd lasers now said...

While a PO can't get enough marksmanship practice using iron and night sights, it's time to equip us with laser aimers. Even if you're firing at a moving target from an awkward position, studies have shown a NINETY PERCENT hit rate.

It's also one hell of a deterrent. Anyone that sees a red dot dancing on his chest realizes that he's only a nanosecond from death.

Check out or

6/18/2006 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will never happen in this shithole of a city.

6/18/2006 11:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No problems for catastrophic acts of terrorism in Chicago. Not on Neil Sullivan's watch.

Lasers would be great for the dept. I got Crimson Trace grips on my off-duty snubbie. You can't miss.

6/18/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terrorist acts won't happen around 2 am, will they?
Well, then I will have another

6/18/2006 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trying to seperate the department from the city is like seperating a cat from its skin. The skin is part of the cat.
You're not gonna see anything intelligent coming out of this city that requires effort. You do see brilliant political ideas like sell everything so we can spend more money on bullshit, but that's as far as it goes. The hacks this city promotes couldn't make a plan for an unexpected event like a terrorist incident. It will have to come from the feds and they will have to implement it. That is the only way.
That not to say that the city didn't respond well to stuff like protest marches after watching Seattle go up. But that was only after watching Seattle go up and knowing of the time and place that they could expect trouble. I mean this city can't get control of their own parks in ghetto at 2:00 am when THEY KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE A HOMICIDE.
Hope no terrorists are reading this!

6/19/2006 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there any order or rule that prevents us from adding a laser to our service weapon at our own expense?

6/19/2006 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The General Orders only allows the members from SWAT/HBT and some other heavy weapons officers to use the lasers. Other wise you CAN'T even at your own expense.

6/19/2006 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ronnie Lubberman had the City on Terror Watch. A citizen over heard him say he wanted to blow the whole City or as much as possible. Ronnie swiftly notified the brass he was talking about orally pleasuring all the men in the City and not the BOMB TYPE blow.

We all can go back to Defcon 1, the elevated alert is over.

6/19/2006 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Citizenry (just made that up)knew the city plan for a terrorist attack......

Well they be slighty upset.

Overheard that the bosses are getting tired of all the off-duty shooting of our fine citizens to the point that they are gonna hang the first bad shooting out to dry.

6/19/2006 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

better to take a few days off for a bad weapon or bad ammo than to get a full honors funeral.

The bad guys have no restrictions on weapons or ammo. So protect yourself.

Got rid of my 9 and went to the 45. The 9MM while a decent weapon when loaded properly lacks the stopping power needed to bring down a man. Now the .45 even loaded with the dept stuff.... well just let me tell ya it has the ability to get the attention of the bad guy.

If you get that laser that replaces the main spring chances are the Dept wont even notice it...hehehe. Talk about nice tight groups. But you gotta talk your wife into spending the money cause thats how they are.

6/19/2006 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've got a lasermax sight on my gun...the look on jagoff's face when the dot hits their head then their chest is priceless...the dot stops them dead in their tracks

6/19/2006 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jut because people can't doesn't mean that they don't. We all know that.

6/19/2006 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Where are the proposed by laws for FOP

Donahue won't let you publish them??????

Freedom of the press HUH

6/19/2006 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE TRUE REASON THE MURDER RATE IS DOWN! Advances in medical technology are saving people that would have died 5 years ago.

6/19/2006 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is it true the murder rate in 011 is up 180% from last year?

6/19/2006 03:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:57 AM

What is the G.O. that prohibits us from using laser sights. Also, if it's short, please quote on this thread.

6/19/2006 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous THE ROCK said...


6/19/2006 05:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC, Isn't about to weed through these POSTS and take out all that SHIT about BLACK PUSSY and related POSTS. After all this isn't a PORN SITE but it's getting to be one. It's about time all these coppers grew up and used this POST for something other then there supposed sexual encounters.
Give us a break. WHATAUTINK

6/19/2006 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which high ranking exempt once said when asked about traing for a terrorist attack, "It is not practical to train individual officers to respond to a terrorist attact."

We all know that this is official Chicago Police Department policy. It was echoed by Ron Hubberman on a panel discussion on WTTW-TV.

If there is a terrorist attack, there will be major police casulties because the first responding officers will make the same mistakes as they did in NYC on 9/11. There will be congressional investigation. Richie will say he didn't know anything about it. What will Ron Hubberman, and our bosses say then.

6/19/2006 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous wake up, chicago! said...

Wake up, Chicago!

The world knows the roles of Al Qaeda cells from 9/11 in NYC.

A load of plastique destined for Los Angeles Airport (LAX) was intercepted at the Canadian border in Blaine, Washington.

Even a moron can figure that jihad has a densely populated area of "the Heartland" in their bullseye. Why not the nation's third largest city? C-4, anthrax, cyanide gas, coordinated suicide bombers at a crowded major event, even another airliner strike, God knows what?

We will pay dearly for complacency and denial.

The last post is downright terrifying.

6/19/2006 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Juneteenth!

6/19/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Richie Daley cares more about the monument that will be built to honor the brave men and women of the CPD who perished on ( fill in the date ), than he does for people themselves.

He will hire many trucks to build that monument, and fleece the widow and orphans to do it.

Richie is no Rudy.

6/19/2006 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Overheard that the bosses are getting tired of all the off-duty shooting of our fine citizens to the point that they are gonna hang the first bad shooting out to dry.

6/19/2006 01:31:39 AM

Overheard at the bar from your partner. He must know, he has 6 months more than you.

6/19/2006 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any word on our two soldiers that got captured in Iraq?

God bless them and bring them back into our fold before the taxidriver animals over there snuff them out........

Just curious, anyone on the board know how many CPD officers are reservists deployed over there??? I heard a figure of 60 once but I think that is a high number..... Randy J is/was there......

6/19/2006 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a good one! I agree about removing the porn, why not give these frustrated Hustler editors a daily topic where they can post to their heart's content and those of us who don't care to share their fantasies can discuss real topics?
I agree about the city not being pro-active about laser sights or anything else for that matter. You don't want to upset Duke, do you? I mean, if they feel threatened by reflective sunglasses, how would they handle laser sights? LOL
Traditionally, the CPD has been REactive, frantically trying to retroactivley set policy..dumb asses.
Is it true that the 16th district held roll call outside a gangbangers house every day in order to get him to move since they didn't have "enough" to arrest him? Even though he conducted his drug business from his car parked in front? Just asking, got this info from "civililans", so wanted to clarify.

6/19/2006 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone read the quote from Sgt. Joe Petrenko in today's Scum Times? Joe helped the Chicago Crime Commission write a report on gangs in Chicagoland? Does anyone besides me even know him? When did he become a gang expert? He has been hiding out in A/4 for the last 5 years as the burglary team Sgt. His team was two det's. Apparently they were too much work to supervise and kept interfering with his side projects by bringing in burglars. He dumped them and brought in one guy to replace them. Imagine a Sgt in the D in charge of only one person. I guess it's one less person to notice he's never at work. I'll tell you what the political hack is good at: media exposure. He has every crime reporter in town in his cell phone. Leave the gangs to the gang guys Joe and go catch some of those burglars that thrive like flies in 001, 012, & 013. Don't forget to call Franny when a tact guy from 001 catches a burglar and take the credit.

6/19/2006 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Chicago Police Sgt. Joseph Petrenko, who helped the Chicago Crime Commission prepare the book, said he was struck by how old many of the 102 listed Chicago area gang leaders are. For instance, George Davis, named as a leader of the Black Gangsters/New Breed, is 68. "A police department might overlook a guy who is over 50," Petrenko said. "The young guys are the enforcers, but the older ones are calling the shots. Departments need to pay attention to 'em."


Thanks Petrenko. Iknow what the department should look at. Why are you allowed to consume oxygen at $100K ayear for doing nothing?

6/19/2006 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6/19/2006 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Granted, most of us could use more practice at the range with iron sights.

Yet, with a laser, I could be rolling on the ground and hit critical mass without fail.

What's Fort Kool-Aid's excuse for being anti-laser?

6/19/2006 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw Sgt. Petrenko's name in a footnote on a Chicago Crime Commision report about outfit control of the SEIU. Currently outfit front man state senator James Deleo is pushing legislation to aid the SEIU in its attempt to unionize registered nurses at Illinois hospitals, including Advocate Health Care Systems (Lutheran General, Good Samaritan, Christ). If your wife is a nurse and the SEIU is successful it will mean outfit control-read theft-of her pension money and health benefits.

6/19/2006 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The laser sights are too intimidating to the citizens of the city of chicago. Just like the shot guns or any thing other then our out dated hand guns.

As long as the liberal left and the Dems are in control in this city the CPD will never be anything but a group of armed social workers. Real Police Officers need not apply!

6/19/2006 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

E-mail us the bylaw proposals and we'll publish them. Put up a link and we'll link to them. But don't expect us to pull them out of your ass just because you think they exist somewhere.

We don't have them - supply them or shut up.

6/19/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go SCC. Tell um like it is !!

6/19/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wish scc wrote for our newspapers!

6/19/2006 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:20 AM

Unless one is an absolute imbecile or bent on "suicide by cop", the sight of red dot(s) dancing on one's chest is supposed to be very, very INTIMIDATING!

Aside from maximum accuracy with even moving targets, the most compelling aspect of laser aimers is that any slightly rational asshole will drop his weapon immediately, thereby averting the need for deadly force.

It's a "win-win" situation, not to mention the seemingly endless paperwork of police-related shootings.

Rest assured that there have been countless undocumented encounters by both civilian or off-duty LEO which thwarted armed predators who merely fled like a bat out of hell.

6/19/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 12:57:37
there is no such thing as swat/hbt.
its just swat. hbt is a thing of the past. and there are no other "heavy weapons" users w/in the dept. thats swat. those guys are out there and the dept should use the crap out of them. thats their job, thats what they are trained for. there are several units such as some of the dets, & the a/4 gun team that want or are scheduled to get "heavy weapons". personally i think its a mistake. thats what a swat team is for. let the dets, detect, and the a/4 gun guys, go get guns! hopefully im wrong but how fast do you think it will take for some goof in plain clothes running around with a "heavy weapon" at 200am to get popped by a 1 year wonder??? and if you know how to shoot, you dont need a laser!

6/19/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous life-saving red dot said...

"...if you know how to shoot, you don't need a laser! - 10:51 AM

Obviously, 10:51 AM has the luxury of proselytizing from behind the safety of his desk. Probably an exempt.

In a stress-free range setting using only my iron sights, I will assume the combat position and place a dozen consecutive rounds in a bullseye at fifteen yards.

In a real life scenario with a moving target, you may well be rolling on the ground srambling for cover. I'll take the indisputable and additional advantage of the LASER.

6/19/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah ok sure ! your funny!
the only bullseye being hit with consecutive rounds is your asshole!
of course only when your in the "combat" position!!!! id like to see that. 3/4 of this dept cant shoot worth a shit. lately, and thank the god above, our guys have been pretty lucky with all these shootings. not taking anything away from these guys. at least the bad guys are being hit & not us. the dept & the po's should take more responsibility and learn their skills to perfection. one more thing smart guy, im not an exempt, and in 17 years have never worked a desk job, nor have i ever had a laser "crutch" in the 3 shootings ive been in. thank you & have a great day!

6/19/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/19/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The laser is an effective and useful tool. Whether its attached to the grips(crimson trace), the guide rod (lasermax) or the light laser combo (streamlight m6, m6x, tlr-2), it can be useful but you have to train with it, like anything else for it to be a good tool to use. In my shooting, aiming at a moving target and myself running at the target, the laser was effective for staying on target during the elapsed 4-5 seconds of engagement, two shots two hits.

I hope that the city will eventually allow us use them "officially" but until then, keep the factory guide rod and original grips in your bag in case you have to do the quick switch after the encounter.

The beauty of the light/laser combo is that it slips right off if you need it to, and is the most economically suitable. Safariland makes 2 holsters for your duty belt to house the light attached to your gun, safariland 6280/6285. Ask for forgiveness not permission.

Do whatever it takes to make sure you return to your family after the tour of duty.

6/19/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous hbt/swat - BIG JOKE said...

SWAT? Get lost kid. Those HBT/SWAT assholes couldn't hit the bullseye on a paper target let alone a bad guy. Biggest pussies on the job. Chicago is one of the most messed up organized police agencies in the Country. Go tell your HBT/SWAT stories to the drunk broads at the bar. Because you have no REAL police stories to tell here. You take 2-3 hours to show up at a scene and won't let the bad guy surrender till your ready. A BIG BIG JOKE! Anything Hockey Stick TOBIAS had a hnad in forming is nothing more than bullshit. He spent his career playing hockey on department time. Doesn't know shit. Why don't you help your fellow SOS guys do another bad search warrant on the wrong address of an elderly guy and throw more flash stick through the windows again. YOUR THE LAUGHING STOCK of this department.

And afraid to let others be heavy weapons so you can brag to the drunk broads how tough you guys are so you can get laid with your small dicks.

6/19/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the future or Christian/Muslim relations. What the article doesn't mention is that 95% of Albanians in Kosovo are MUSLIM. Granted, not ALL muslims are as violent as the Kosovo-Albanians, but....

Kosovo Tensions Put More Than People at Risk

June 15, 2006 — A picturesque valley in the western province of Kosovo is home to the largest and most urgently preserved monastery in Serbia. The 14th century Visoki Decani monastery has not only survived the passage of time but also the ravages of war. Even though around half the Serb population fled a wave of revenge attacks after the war, the 100,000 who stayed are still targeted by sporadic violence. Stoning of police and attacks on individuals are not uncommon.

6/19/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think a few of thos SWAT guys like to talk with drunk guys too. A few dick smokers, fruits, backdoor rangers, sissy bitches are on that team. They don't mine doing each other in the reardoor becuase their manhoods are so small it doesn't hurt. Word was Tobias wore a thimble as a protective cup while playing hockey.

6/19/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did he have to stuff the thimble with toilet paper so it didn't bounce around on his love stick? Can you say
S U P E R - S M A L L ?

6/19/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The SWAT bois shold put a mini-laser on their tiny cocks so they get better aim at their buddies backdoors. I agree with the other poster. They suck. You wait hours for them to show up so they can stand around and do nothing. Biggest pussies on the job. I always said, your better off hitting the door when your on the scene than to call them out. Otherwise nothing gets done.

6/19/2006 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6/19/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with the Lasermax sight is that you better switch it out real quick after a shooting before they take your gun in for ballistics. FYI-- they will COMPLETELY notice that you have one-- so to the poster that believes that they may overlook it---0% chance that would happen.

6/19/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous life-saving red dot said...

11:42 AM

You have your opinion without corroboration. I have mine. Let the reader decide what makes sense concerning lasers.

You didn't have to be rude, did you?

Check out

6/19/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lasers aren't magic. nothing will ever take the place of solid marksmanship skills. i was at a range once and saw a target with a laser bouncing all over it. when the guy was done shooting his target looked like he fired a shotgun at it.

6/19/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6/19/2006 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger DaleyforMCCguest said...

I have a laser on one of my guns and I will tell you this. If you cannot shoot with iron sights, you will be able to shoot with a laser. If you are considering one to improve your shooting ability, stop now. Take the $239 you were going to spend on it and go to Dick's or Bass Pro Shop or even Shore. Go right to the ammo counter and buy as much ammo as you can afford for your weapon. Now call the range and see when you can go down for trigger time. Shoot no more than one box of ammo on a trip. Use one target for each magazine shot. Any more rounds than 15 on a target is ballistic masterbation. You want to see where your hitting. Final suggestion to those who are serious. Ask around at work and find someone to go shooting with. There's plenty of shooters on this dept that will help a copper who asks.

6/19/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC--it seems kinda in poor taste to comment on the amount of times a copper/s shoots if you were not on the scene. Who was to say what was excessive? They shot until the threat was eliminated or neutralized. Shame on you. You should know better!

6/19/2006 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger DaleyforMCCguest said...

I also would question the quoted study of NINETY PERCENT hits on moving targets with a laser. Straight up bullshit. I have the study done ny NYPD transit cops using the lasers on their weapons. It didn't raise the shot/hit ratio, but it did raise the threat/compliance ratio.

6/19/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous MAN ASS said...

Whos your favorite GAY-HOMOSEXUAL Department member......

6/19/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6/19/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone hear about the escapee from 23rd district.....the guy escaped 3 times out of his cuffs....they didnt realize he had a hand cuff key in his mouth.

6/19/2006 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares if lasers intimidate the "citizen" you are pointing your gun at? Someone with a gun aimed at them is SUPPOSED to be intimidated. More half assed reasoning by the big blue dinosaur.

6/19/2006 03:41:00 PM  
Blogger DaleyforMCCguest said...

Typo on my post- I meant to say that if you can't shoot with iron sights, you will NOT be able to shoot any better with a laser. It may be a helpful part of a training program, but if you think you will put it on and become a better shot, no such luck.

6/19/2006 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work in a district. I practice my marksmanship at the range at least once a month. I want to add a laser grip to my semi-automatic.

Can anyone cite any order or rule prohibiting me from using a laser while on duty?

6/19/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just call the range and quit reposting.

6/19/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:20 PM asked a legitimate question. I can NOT find any written directive that prohibits the use of a laser on a P.O. firearm.

Unless it's in print to the contrary, I'd recommend the Crimson Trace laser over the LaserMax.

6/19/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit bashing the SWAT guys! Some of those guys work hard and train hard and are READY if some real serious stuff blows in. True, most of the time when they're called out, they really don't show up in enough time to be effective, but all that may change now. I hear that some Sgt. up there with his tongue up City Hall's ass recently got DUMPED because he claimed to be training with his team while a boss spotted him elsewhere! Anybody knows who that Sgt. was? I hear he's also in law school, and is now detailed to 016, but nobody I know in SWAT would say who the screwup was. I hear the only thing bigger than his ego is the COMMAND VEHICLE.

6/19/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger blacksanction said...

If your general orders are anything like ours (less face it senior staff cheat by using cut and paste from other departments)then the laser site would be under the modifications section.

We have a 23% failure rate at the annual requals cause most of us only get to shoot once a year except for the boys who like to shower together and play with their big guns- yes the tactical eunicks (same world over they practice practice for the big day that never comes as the front lines deal with the real shit)

6/19/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't any of you dumb asses know how to look up the GO's? It IS in the order on weapons, laser sights are PROHIBITED in this fucked up department!

6/19/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What you got 2 days on the job. You can only carry AUTHORIZED EQUIPMENT! So show where in the G.O.'s it says lasers are authorized? The general orders dont say you cant wear a pink thong on your head either so maybe get your laser and the thong asshole

6/19/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger Captain Ed Lenti #61 said...

For all the stupid PO's (it's gonna be on the Sgt's test Saturday!) General Order 92-3 states "sights may be fixed, adjustable or Tritium night sights. Electrical or optical sights are prohibited. Guess you'll get at least one question right now huh??

6/19/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone have the asnwers for the sgt test yet? I could use them.........

6/19/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the 9th district, when a bad guy shoots at us...we get really nasty! 99% hit rate my ass-009 tac will take out the offender quicker than SOS and SWAT anyday!!!
We hit what we aim at-look at our numbers...

6/19/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the 9th district, if ya need laser're finished anyway!!!
-009 tact

6/19/2006 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be quiet dumbass.

6/19/2006 06:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do all the POs in 9th district act like pussies when TRU responds to their calls? I mean, we are only providing support and you guys get all bent out of shape when we arrive to assist.
Man, get it together already!!! We hear you whine about us too-especially when we are using the precious computers. What cry babies!

6/19/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't wear my pink thong?

6/19/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

009 coppers are the chosen ones that's why! Nobody should disturb the chosen ones' way of life. Dig?

6/19/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chosen ones?

6/19/2006 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

chosen ass-suckers that's about it! Go to work fool.

6/19/2006 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The day they become a fast working district-I'll call them chosen ones. But until they start acting like police and clear their jobs quickly so they get rid of their backlogs-don't expect me or any other working copper in 007 0r 011 to call them chosen ones.
Bunch of whiny ass kids from what I can tell from the blogs. They need to experience life!!!

6/19/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC, but damn.... what was the topic??

The John Knight Memorial Golf Outing was once again a huge success. I hope everyone had as good a time as I did.

Having worked in 022, it was wonderful to see such a great turn out and show of support, as always. Times like this make me even prouder to be a member of the CPD. It's nice to know that our fallen brothers are not only never forgotten, but remembered and cherished.

God bless Joan and the rest of the Knight family.

6/19/2006 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Fellas. I proudly work in Evergreen PD and even I know that 009 isn't a busy district anymore. Many of my CPD friends have told me they are glad they no longer work in 009, because the district has become wussy. The days of the tough guy coppers in 009 are long gone. Evergreen PD is even crazier than 009 now...

6/19/2006 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just because 009 doesn't make the news as much as you other districts-you think we are slow. How about coming to 009 and working Mids with us? Guaranteed between 2-5am, we are rockin and rollin out there on 53rd and Damen...See for yourself!

6/19/2006 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a laser on my manhood.....and it's aimed for her chin !!

6/19/2006 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/19/2006 08:45:40 PM

You're a f*cking idiot. Way to start comparing a south side chicago district to Evergreen park, did you get a big head from watching the news and hearing that guy from the Chicago crime comission say there was a big gang problem in the suburbs. Pull up the crime stats and see for yourself, but remember take Chicago's with a grain of salt since the bosses like to reclassify the crimes. I worked in 22 for a couple of months before I realized I was too young and actually wanted to work and I know for a fact 22 was busier then Evergreen park.

6/19/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry I meant 6/19/2006 08:30:57 PM

6/19/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well everyday we learn more and more that this city is a corrupt shithole lead by none other than Richy Daley. I'm glad I work on the Police Department where integrity is on display 24/7. Those nasty FBI guys will stop at nothing to get people. Putting that poor little secretary from Bridgeport on the stand. Want to guess how the threatened her if she didn't testify. There must be some nervous little lamb out there right now. What with the big bad Federal Wolf in town. I hate to thing of who is next because this case is over.

6/19/2006 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guaranteed between 2-5am, we are rockin and rollin out there on 53rd and Damen...

How cute - you are busy at one intersection, for three hours. Let me guess, lunch at Archview from 3-4?

....So cute.

6/19/2006 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ONLY way you would know if we were at lunch at Archview is if you were there to see us...What are you a DOG ASS or something? We know you are female by the "how cute" remark...Go suck somebody off and fix em dinner while your at it Princess! Leave the crime fighting to the Mids boys in 009 who take lunch at Huck Finns-NOT ARCHVIEW!!!

6/19/2006 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know it has been said before on this post, but people seem to still be asking...General Order 92-3 and it's various addendums prohibit the use of any weapon-mounted lighting system including lasers.

I agree that lasers are a fantastic deterent - but it is not the end all be all. Remember that little thing called Threat Identification? If you are looking into buying a system - consider one that provides both white light for ID and a laser for aiming.

If you already have a laser on your weapon - don't forget they are not 'set and forget'- If you do any amount of shooting you will need to recalibrate as they work their way loose (out of calibration) from sustained recooil pressures.

6/19/2006 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Average duration of police shooting is 2-3 seconds, FBI published national average. This has not changed in years. Average number of rounds fired used to be 2-3, but has now trended up in recent years to 4-6 shots fired (by both badguy and PO).

6/19/2006 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

huck finns.....drove by a hundred it they take care of us?
TRU 2 year wonder W/ hard on

6/19/2006 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Try this on for size said...

I finally figured out how many "working" cops there are on this job! Let's celebrate!

You are a working cop if you:

1) Work in 007 or 011
2) Work in a southside district
3) Work in a west side district
4) Work in 001, 013, 016, 017, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024 because everyone know that they are all coppers who have "worked 100 years in the ghetto" but are now taking care of their homes and neighborhoods.
5) Work in a unit (TRU, SOS, SWAT)
6) Work in 018 because they "have Cabrini", even though 90 percent of 018th Distrcit cops go no where near there except to go to the station.
7) Work indoors (see 4 above)

Puhleese! You work in 007, good for you! A shitty little station with even shittier desk personnel.

011? Talk about your two year wonders. Did you ever think that this is where the Department sends all the clout heavy supervisors (especially Sgts)? Indoor, clout heavy supervisors who wouldn't know what to do in any situation (this DOES NOT apply to all Sgts there, but there are more than a few).

TRU? SOS? May work hard but hardly elite units.

Southside? Westside? I give you credit for dealing with the animal all day, but isn't there something inherantly wrong with wanting to be around them all tour, every tour? Sure they need locked up and often, but it doesn't make you a super trooper to be there. You have MORE than your share of dogs and braggarts there who tell other people's stories.

Area 3? Do I have to say it? Largest percentage of do nothings and mentally unbalanced people in the Department. PO's, Dicks, all of them.

You hard charging coppers from the "working" districts also need to get over yourselves. It really isn't hard to find dope or agg batt offenders when EVERYONE is a seller/smoker/Agg Batt offender. It really isn't your tremendous insight and preternatural abilities that lead to your arrests. When everyone is an offender in your district, the only real question is "Which one today"?

No one is better than anyone else here. Put a dog from 023 into 011 and what do you get? A dog in 011.

Put a worker in 007 into 016 and what do you get? A superstar in 016.

It isn't WHERE you work, it's HOW you work.

So there.

6/19/2006 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Javier said...

Can you imagine the HDO idiots or Al Sanchez really running a crisis like if terrorists hit the Sears Tower??? Streets and San or the Water Department with Heroin dealers, gang members running departments, 18 year old kids with no training. Chicago would be joke in a catatrosphe

6/20/2006 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous try this on for size said...

Lest I forget, you old timers telling the younger guys "how it is"? Go to hell.

When you were first on the job, you could beat people with reckless abandon, shoot someone and "Find" a gun where none had been before, sell dope, steal from dealers and so on. No video cameras, no video phones, no accountability.

Today, just LOOK at a Yuppie the wrong way and she will have 15 of her friends lined up to swear you were harassing her; arrest a dope-dealer and face him in Federal Court for violating his rights; lock up an offender for sexual assault and you will look at 30 days pending for racial profiling.

Tell me about how rough you had it.

And to all you kids out there, you Generation X types: You are not the solution. You run around, trying to be the police but all you ever do is whine about how the bosses told you to wash your uniform and polish your boots. I have never seen such a group of people who look at self-entitlement as a right. WAIT! Yes I have! The animal is the same way!
"The police made me move. The police told me I needs a license."

The words may be different, but the whine is the same.

The college requirement didn't help. I agree that it hurt. Not beacuse of the education requirement, that is too easy of an answer. It is just a sign of the times that the only people who will come on this jobs anymore are frustrated ex-students who are disillusioned after 23 years of life.

Take away the college requirement and the new recruits will be the same: Glory hounds and braggers.

How sad.

6/20/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"try this on for size" (11:49 PM)

You are in DENIAL, even possibly delusional.

6/20/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous crimson trace corp. said...

Law enforcement officers and soldiers who use their guns every day are among the best-trained shooters. They spend many hours at the range sharpening their skills. But these professionals know that shooting at the range is nothing like shooting in the real world. The chaos of a firefight or armed attack requires every tactical advantage possible to defeat the assailant or bring the situation under control.

A cold, hard fact of police shootings is that even with frequent training, only about 20% of shots fired hit their intended target. Since the FBI and NIJ began gathering data on shootings, the numbers have changed very little. And the facts are clear--plenty of good shooters are performing poorly on the street. This has big ramifications in terms of errant rounds striking unitended targets, or the fact that the assailant isn't being stopped as quickly as possible.

Lasergrips are helping to solve this problem. In actual shootings, officers who use Lasergrips are seeing their hit ratios exceed 90%. Stopping dangerous offenders means our streets are safer, and our officers are safer too.

The proven deterrent effects of lasers and their advantages in tactical situations and training make it clear that every law enforcement officer and soldier should be equipped with Lasergrips.

SOURCE: Crimson Trace Corp., 2006 Catalog, pp.12-13.

6/20/2006 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: TRY THIS ON FOR SIZE, thank you my brother or sister. I have been trying to get the same point across to these people who think because of their seniority date or where they work makes them better than their fellow officer.
I personally dont care how many years you have, ribbons on chest,part one arrests,guns,psmv,uuw,tru,tact,sos,swat,district you work in or came from,etc....Its all BULLSHIT!!!! The only thing I care about is the person sitting next to me pushing that beat car for eight hours. The person I know who will have my back no matter what we encounter on our tour of duty and will make sure he will get me home safe to my family as I will do for him. So thank you sir/mam for expressing my same thoughts, God Bless and stay safe, and to all you guys and gals that think this City and Department cannot survive without you, you are seriously wrong. Remember IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!!!!

6/20/2006 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your specious reasoning completely ignores the FACT that officers assigned to street duties in certain districts have a significantly higher likelihood of being injured and even killed by criminals than their counterparts in "slow" districts.

Two hard-working officers wearing the same uniform will encounter more explosive situations working in 007 and 011 versus 016 and 019. You can NOT deny that.

However, an officer who has "paid his dues" in a fast district is entitled to work a less hazardous assignment. There are officers on the job who have made more felony arrests in one month than others have made in their entire career.

6/20/2006 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 2:49, there you go again.It doesnt matter!!! Keep thinking you are than man,everytime you put on that uniform it could be your last day on this earth!!! I dont care where it is you work,016,019,018,007,Park Ridge,Mayberry,etc...Take your ass to either the State or Washington D.C. Police Memorial and you will see the names of alot of Fallen Heroes who have made the ultimate sacrafice. The majority of the Fallen Officers are from Departments you have never heard of.
You must of been a little nerd when you were child and got picked on. Now that you were assigned to the ghetto because of no seniority you think you are SUPERCOP.You should be ashamed of that stupid comment you made.
I challenge you tuff copper to make a sign that reads (and you can fill in the district)X X X district coppers are pussies because they work a slow district and I can kick anyone of your asses because I work X X X district and stand in front of the district staion entrance so the P.O.'s that work there can read your challenge. I bet my pension you will have several P.O.'s that will kick the shit out of you and send you back to your ghetto district crying like a little bitch you are. Come on I double dare you!!!!!!

6/20/2006 03:30:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

Essentially, I agree with 2:49 AM.

While an officer can me KIA in "Mayberry" venues, you need look no further than the memorial display in the lobby at 3510 S. Michigan Ave. In the past half-century, you will find that an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of our fallen comrades made the ultimate sacrifice in "fast" districts with high rates of violent crime.

Get your facts straight.

6/20/2006 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6/20/2006 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Muldoon, complain to somebody who thinks your hot air is worth the price of admission in an opium tent in China!
Let's see-a guy survives 15 months of fighting in Al Forouk village of Mosul with 173rd Stryker Bde. and you say "Put a fork in him-he done?"
Wow, what a profound statement by a liberal left-wing pain in the ass know-it all. I am ashamed that you are working in 025 with me and the PPO you are slamming. Maybe you should go on call back to develop a "personality".
He at least has a problem-what's your excuse?
Hell, I don't think I would fault anybody who fought in Iraq, so I could have freedom. You are a cowardice one indeed. FYI, he's not going to call back. They are helping him "in-house" and that's the way to do it. Leave 025 if you cannot handle working with the man. Better yet-go join the so-called "military veteran loser" on the unemployment line. Betcha they get a job quicker than your feeble mind.
There are many returning Iraq vets-are you going to bash them all?

6/20/2006 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6/20/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

6/20/2006 07:40:54 AM


6/20/2006 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger wagonman said...

I hope that if the post regarding the copper suffering from PTSD is in fact legit that the other guys and the bosses on the watch are doing everything in their power to help and support this warrior in his return to civilian life. Maybe a call to LTC Grossman might be a resource to exploit?

To the original cocksucker who besmirched this hero I hope you die an agonizing death

6/20/2006 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to see anyone of you asshole bosses say that to me.

6/20/2006 07:21:00 PM  
Blogger sharky said...

Never let down a fellow officer who needs help in such an obvious way. If you are against the war, you are entitled to your opinion, but do not co-mingle the two points.
It sounds like 025 is handling things appropriately, bringing the officer inside for a while. This way, he/she has time to work things out. The same thing should be done as needed for someone involved in a traumatic incident on the street, or for someone involved in something off-duty that affected them

6/20/2006 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Try this on for size said...

Specious reasoning? I think you misunderstand. And NORTHSIDE, I am ashamed for you. I always love the fact that people rally to your side and I have always cheered them, and you, on.

But I never, NEVER said that cops who work in fast districts don't face more aggression. My post is still there. Read it carefully.

What I said was that it does not make you a better cop just because you work in a faster district. Sure, there are more batteries to PO in 007, 011, 010 and 015. That doesn't mean that those cops were workers. In my day I have seen many, many PO's get hurt who were taking police action for the first time in a year; lazy sons-a-bitches who let a drunk rile them up until their ego could no longer take it and then they get hurt physically exerting themselves without warming up.

I have respect for the working police, where ever they are. The district doesn't make you a good cop. You make the difference, not your location.

And my point about the slower districts was that some of the PO's there are there after working in faster districts, and God bless them. But pay a visit to one of the districts I mentioned and see how many people there have 7 years or less.

6/20/2006 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry about Northside, he's just a hand waver now!!!!!

6/21/2006 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a Veteran myself, I have nothing but the highest amount of respect. I have never had the unfortunate opportunity to negotiate combat. I have never been utilized in a conflict or war. My veteran status is "generic" which means "all the training, none of the application". The friends that i made in the service that are still active, or have been in the past in foriegn campaigns, no matter how insignificant to a civilian, messed with their heads. There is no perfect return, or unscarred return to normalcy.
We as a "police family", which has come to be a bastardized term, I know, have got to reach out and help other coppers with demons as much as we can. Don't contribute to them by allowing someone to hide behind booze, or some other vice. You are not being part of the solution. Reach out and be ready to listen, be there as a brother or sister, be there as a friend. see the signs and held heal.
pulling someone from hell is a lot better than keeping them company in hell.

6/21/2006 10:08:00 AM  

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