Wasted Manpower
Yesterday's article about how Dorothy "the Hat" has a squad car parked in front of her office overnight to deter vandalism is bringing up other incidents of manpower being diverted to "less than pressing" needs just because of who somebody is. How about these alleged incidents?
- From the same article: About two years ago, Ald. Arenda Troutman (20th) insisted she was entitled to have a squad car parked outside her South Side home on weekends because she was the victim of two burglaries. Some cops groused that average citizens would not get such treatment, but Troutman said, "Deserve it? Damn right."
- From the comments section: In the 008th District, the Officers are assigned to the "CROE TV" - Muhammad & Friends television show on 71st & Artesian. We must sit in the parking lot from 6pm to 9pm and guard thier cars. That's right, a profit orgization gets free police protection. And this happens when the 008th District has a back log every day, Officers are assigned 4/5 jobs at a time, and people are getting shot. [sic]
- Also from the comments section: How about this just yeterday a unamed detective plus 3 other dics were ordered to protect tillmans office ordered by fred coffey unlimited overtime to protect this scumbag alderman! $$$$$$$$$$ Gone daley to afraid to not do it! [sic]
And from our own archives, we asked months ago if it was true that numerous marked squad cars from the 005th District are assigned to reverend Meeks' church for traffic control before, during and after services. Let's hear some stories people - there have to be more incidents that no one has heard about. Post them.
posted by SCC at 8:30 AM
102 Comments:
009 is here!!!
All Dowfey Tillman needs is beat 1612 to watch over her.
9th District designates a car (906) as a "dignitary car" on all three watches. Their only job is to check out and log (3x) the houses and offices of all of the politicians who live in the district (mostly Bridgeport). Now the list includes all of the Judges who live there also. (due to the fact that the commanders bro-in-law (and clout) is none other than Chief Judge B-Bull. Now how about that for a waste of manpower.
Wasted Manpower - What about the FOP "Double Dip" and "Ghost" payrolling. Donahue and Dougherty were in SOS the other day on FOP time. Donahue gets almost $170,000 a year and Dougherty gets almost $120,000. The guys make another $5,000 to make roll calls. It is a side job. Work your side job guys on YOUR time not FOP TIME.
the 005th dist does provide free security and valet parking to the meeks church every sun morning. its a joke. the city allowed meeks to build his mega church in a residental area and now there are parking problems. But mike shields knows where his clout is so dont expect any changes
What's equally disturbing is that the brick is being checked for DNA -- for a PROPERTY CRIME!!!
Was the Hat's brick put ahead of analysis for real crime victs?
And further, were the rocks thrown at the coppers in Calumet taken in for similar analysis to lock in the offenders? Doubt it.
What ever happened to logic and reason?
Logic and reason are non-existent due to the guzzling of Kool-Aid.
Boss...Boss - The Plan. The Plan. FOP Board of Directors yesterday voted to keep Sgts. in the union. Can I join the PB&PA?
in 009th District a marked squad car sits at Jimbo's Bar whenever there is a Sox's home game because of an incident that happened 5 years ago. I wish a marked car would sit behind my garage because I was burglarized 3 years ago. But my incident never made the news!
Not sure if anyone touched on this the other day, but we were assigned to the Taste of Chicago on July 3rd for the fireworks. We arrived as usual, parking on Congress near the command post for roll-call. We were told that we had to park down below alongside the I.C. tracks and the parking on Congress was RESERVED FOR THE BOSSES KIDS & FAMILIES!! What a bunch of beat-offs we have running this department!
Rumor has it that there were only 8,500 people on the list for weapons qualifications this year. That includes ALL sworn personnel that are authorized to carry. Talk about being short-handed!!! Is it any wonder that we are getting false manpower numbers when the powers that be have let things get this bad...?
WE NEED THE TEAMSTERS< NOW
GET RID OF CLINE AND THE FOP
NOW
You guys constantly wine. This stuff is not worth getting mad over. If you guys don't like the job then quit..
What is worth getting mad over?
TODAYS' STORY ABOUT GANGBANGERS ON THE S/W SIDE via the TIMES:
"...opened fire on a crowd containing the girl outside on the 6200 block of South Whipple Street at 11:30 p.m., said police News Affairs Officer David Banks.
“They shot randomly into the crowd,’’ said Banks. The two “gang-bangers” fled west and are not in custody as of early Thursday, he said."
Fantastic job, Supt. Cline!! This dept. caters to the black community because, I guess, it's a much better photo op to have pissed off or people crying that are black, compared to OUR community in Clearing/Garfield Ridge that actually REFUSES to tolerate this bullshit.
Fine! You don't want to do anything to help our men and women out on the streets? I WILL
If you don't do anything, I will get a paper petition rolling in Clearing/Garfield Ridge and go door to door, telling each and every person what I have seen happen to our officers out here and make damn sure they sign it to get extra police out here as well as the fact we need to get rid of this Hispanic gang problem over here.
THANKS SO MUCH for caring about our blue shirts out here! Weren't you once out on the streets a long time ago? HELLO
northsidedet said...
You guys constantly wine. This stuff is not worth getting mad over. If you guys don't like the job then quit..
7/06/2006 11:31:03 AM
Is that "WINE" a merlot or chablis?
BREAKING NEWS
Cal Cops, and Englewood
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/
index/dsindex.html
CRIMEWATCH is on tv right now. They're going on about how the police department works with the community concerning gangs.
Peter Karl: "Keep the line of communication open to the police and we can work together"
DONT FORGET a car from every district in area 5 is assigned fri,sat,sun to Garfield Park from 2200-0200. WHY? Area 4 can't handle their own problems? where is SOS? TRU? Jump OUT Boys? Where is area 4 tact? Gangs?
The DEPT is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
How bout the 11th dist sgt who tazered 27 people?
TRU is the jump out boys!!!
Dorothy The Mad Hatter need a full time Ghettocam to watch her 24 hours a day. She does not need to police!
As much as we have legitimate gripes about the waste of manpower, we could solve that by getting rid of half the house mouse spots on the dept. Assigning a car here and there is nothing compard to entire groups who do nothing.
Must be nice to get 70,000 K a year to hand out cookies to senior citizens or go to a CAPs meeting for an hour then go home. I had to get a new ID (mine didn't work in the swiper) 8 useless females in civilian dress standing around while 1 of them went on a computer and printed me a new ID. It took about 30 seconds. Those officers(not) are really worth their paychecks. The females who work in the back offices for the commanders do about 1 tenth the work as a real secretary does for double the pay. Lets not forget all the hard working desk personel who put their lives on the line while photocopying traffic crash reports. Some desk officers do work and at least keep busy others have a great time of searching the Web for 8 hrs. Thats city of Chicago effiency for you.
Police officers should be paid to do police work not direct traffic, write parking tickets, and hand out radios. Taxes are so high in Chicago because the dept is archaic in how we do things. Let the police work the street or at least something involving police work like reviewing case reports to weed out the crap so the dicks can concentrate on cases that can be cleared by an arrest.
We all know the dept we never get rid off all the do nothing spots. Cut those spots in half so the officers working the street or doing police work have resources. Backup on a 1A job at least.
I know that was off topic but it was related to the thread.
Is there 1 decent P.O. in 009?
Or is every P.O. in 009 a self righteous, useless, piece of shit?
Those are the only jagoffs to publish names. They constantly talk shit, and do not back up working police that could use help.
009 is a SLOW district with SLOWER police. No matter what your mommy tells you, 009 is not busy.
Now go sign out another ANOV book. Because an "ANOV counts as an arrest."
hot off the fax wires - um, nothing. No Sgt's list or Lt's or Detectives or E/T's.
Dept. can't run it's manpower properly and you all know the reason. My thought's for what it may be worth. Clout is deeply embedded and favor's owed. The budget balance is entwined with police salary and the current problem of low manpower. FOP is way to silent on the subject. We know they don't want to see any officer's injured, so the question is why silence in the media? Is the past FED. and Madigan issue still a tender spot? Where is their voice?
The dept. is reactive not proactive and poorly run. Whose responsible for placing Stripped Sgt's. and P.O.'s with no police power's and no ability to carry weapon's in the gun vault handling weapon's and ammo. at Evidence and Recovered property with ability to earn overtime handling the back log of weapon's evidence for burn's as a special detail? How are they selected. Who is responsible and how was this bad news arrangement and exchange set up? Now again, ask what the city and dept's. real problem's are. Heads should roll for all boss's Sgt's. and above involved between the two unit's. Whose head of Evidence and Call Back (ARP.,) where the stripped handle CPD dispatch, Rape report's, Theft report's, and all other police report calls. No they don't handle pot hole call's. Gun Vault this is a bad place for any stripped. Funnier part IAD and OPS know.
I wish I was Black. This White-thing really isn't all that anymore.....
northsidedet said...
You guys constantly wine. This stuff is not worth getting mad over. If you guys don't like the job then quit..
7/06/2006 11:31:03 AM
BIIIIIIG talk from an A/3 Det! Bitch please, go back to sleep.
Off topic
July 2005. The Illinois study, which involved approximately a thousand police agencies statewide, found that minorities are more likely to be pulled over than whites for a traffic stop and two and a half times as likely to have their car searched when pulled over. Having video cameras installed in squad cars during a traffic stop will not only make it easier to obtain accurate information as well as make it more safe for the law enforcement officer but also the cameras may be a powerful tool in helping to eliminate racial disparities by providing a record of all patrol activity and traffic stops.
The Illinois State Police (ISP) first began a similar pilot program in 1991 and over the years has equipped all of their law enforcement vehicles with video cameras. They report that with the use of in-car video cameras, officer indiscretions can immediately be verified or discredited. This capability allows agencies to quickly rebut false claims against officers or swiftly take sanctions against officers who step out of line.
www.illinois.gov
ALL YOU 9TH DISTRICT RANGERS SUCK!!!! ONCE A COPPER WAVES, WAVE BACK, DONT BE AFRAID LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ON JOBS YOU ALL ARE PUSSIES AND NEED THE TRU UNIT TO HELP YOU DO JOBS
7/06/2006 09:11:35 AM
Still a pussy though
Officer indescretions? Where? That only occurs in a negroe pandering, no death penalty state. Camera's in ISP squad cars? The Il. State Police is one of the biggest affirmative action employers in Illinois! I won't call 'em goof's but they're not the police riding around in four wheeled cash registers. An old time captain gave some sage advice twenty years ago: Let them kill each other. Who cares if they t-bone a carload of their own at ninety mph down 47th St! Don't profile and keep voting democrat boys!
What happened to thr rumor about getting time and half for working at sox and cubs games on your rdo? Did the TMA's stop that?
7/06/2006 01:49:27 PM
right on Brother!!!!!! Most of the ones I ever met were morons. Usually the only ones that are decent are the ones that came from other districts. You get the guys that have been there their whole career bunch o' pussies. Afraid of the black man!!!!
Has anyone noticed when serious issue's are raised GIDDY unprofessional post's are made in an effort to deflect and attempt to frustrate any meaningful exchange. It's called a GROUPIE TROLL disruption attack on blog. Serious poster's do not allow the porno and hate monger poster's to run rampant and do not allow themselves to be chased off the blog by the intent of juvenile cheap trill seeking troll's who repost redundant dribble. If you don't take nonsense on the street why accept it on the blog. Are their any cop's left on the blog posting who can back up and bring the posting's back up?
Leo-I agree with you, but all parties involved in last nights shooting were hispanic, not black.
Also, is there still a car detailed to Ald.Burke's house in 008? For awhile there was and I heard a lot of coppers bitch about it. Apparently the Ald. was not always very friendly and yelled at a few of the officers, demanding someone stop by his house at least once every hour. I don't recall the reason behind the detail, but I think it is a ridiculous waste of manpower since 008 is constantly in a backlog.
fuck all those black mother fucking people on the west side..let them kill each other..they are fucking useless fucking scum of the earth people,they fuck, drink,smoke dope,and dance..oh yea and the ones that are from the zulu tribe play ball,,fuck them...i will leave in 5-years and when im in my hick town, i will watch wgn news and laught and say..i thought the city sucked when i worked there...fuck all you colored people.
northsidedet said...
You guys constantly wine. This stuff is not worth getting mad over. If you guys don't like the job then quit..
So, do you like being a Detective, huh? Make alot of money do you? Pull alot of overtime? Got lots of case going? Big W-2 for you, eh? Got a nice house up there on the Nothside? Big back yard for your dog to run around, right? Everything working out for you quite nicely?
cameras may be a powerful tool in helping to eliminate racial disparities
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Ya, it'll emilinate a lot of other things too.......
They report that with the use of in-car video cameras, officer indiscretions can immediately be verified or discredited
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Will it show what we always say:
MOST OF THE TIME, WE CAN'T TELL WHAT RACE THE DRIVER IS WHEN WE STOP THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hallelujah!
Daley's house of patronage cards is imploding before our very eyes.
Patrick Fitzgerald for Mayor!
Anonymous said...
Boss...Boss - The Plan. The Plan. FOP Board of Directors yesterday voted to keep Sgts. in the union. Can I join the PB&PA?
7/06/2006 10:29:38 AM
1st would you really want to join PBPA?
2nd at present time there is no mechanism to rid FOP of someone who is promoted.
3rd as a sergeant I would like to see the sergeants be represented by the same union as patrolmen et al.
4th we are non-voting members. Create bylaws that will unseat a member of the board if he or she is promoted.
Check PBPA website and see the last time it was updated. CFD Capts,Lts and Firemen/Paramedics are all in the same union, why shouldnt we?
Dear SCC......I have seen so many post way the hell off topic. I placed a link on this post FYI (definately off topic) and it has since been deleted. It wasnt homophobic, sexist or even racial it wasnt "fronting" out dog ass coppers slamming Mt. Greenwood, Garfield Ridge or Edison Park nor mudslinging at various politicians or exempts. It is however a website that warns people about Islamic Terrorism just a little information for those who havent forgotten about 9-11 or what is occuring in Iraq or Afganistan. jihadwatch.org
Sorich found GUILTY....pucker up Richie....youre next !! Ha Ha Bubba is waitin' for ya in cell block B.
Unreal, maybe between Daley and Cline Fitz can look at The stripped in the CPD gun vault. Way to go Mayor you have over controlled and are out of control. Your last episode of missing drugs was not enough, what are you wishing for yet another chain of custody breech or worse and a fall guy with no police powers, screw the officer's in good standing with power's you say. Even the civilians are not suppose to be alone in these vaults. A special detail with little oversite and overtime run by a stripped Sgt. What a full circus window display of mgmt. FOP sorry your asleep big time, on this special detail with overtime on the horizon.
Dear SCC......I have seen so many post way the hell off topic....It is however a website that warns people about Islamic Terrorism just a little information for those who havent forgotten about 9-11 or what is occuring in Iraq or Afganistan. jihadwatch.org
What are you talking about? It's right where you left it. In the Quick Hits post below this one about less than 10 comments in. We never touched it.
In regards to Sgts in the FOP....
" . . 4th: we are non-voting members. Create bylaws that will unseat a member of the board if he or she is promoted. . . "
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WRONG . . Sergeants CAN VOTE.. I pay my 50 bucks a year to the FOP and always get a ballot.
Is it getting hot up on the 5th. floor, you little weasel fuck. To all you clout baby's fuck you too...your time is near! God bless Fitz.
Is CPD a private business run by outside banker's and politician's. Wondering why no boss can say NO. How many favor's are owed in this dept. anyway?
Off topic, Hear Vice Pres. Che. is coming into town with Pres. Bush as well.
"logic and reason", went out the window a long time ago; in your case however, it rolled down your mama's legs, to answer your question more appropriately...
0519
Is your snide logic in anyway due to a clout cloak holder with transferable nervous bravdo tendencies.
Lt exam announcemnt came out today. Think Baby Kline has a shot? Strang they waited until he had enough time in grade to announce it.
This whole job is about clout and wasted manpower. Now think about it the majority spend their careers in patrol or at least in a blue shirt. Let me tell you Cline is a fat useless fuck for the mayor just like all supts always have been. Now all those who are still in blue shirts(the majority) should always remember that from fat Phil on down through the exempt ranks and including Capts are clout motherfuckers and will fuck you the blue shirt over in a minute. for them if they ever saw the street it was so long ago that I bet fat Phil could see his little dick back then. So when you hear so and so is a "good" boss remember they are all clout jag offs who will fuck you over in a minute.
Now you can't even like Sgts and Lts because 30% of those assholes are clout jag offs. Thank God I'll be long retired but 20 years from now little Cline and the other"rising star" little boy bosses will be the elite clout jag offs. Look at it this way guys and gals. We make decent money for what we do and the benefits aren't too bad either. Just try to do your time and enjoy a retirement someday because ego maniac exempts (Little Tommie Byrne) are so fucked up they got nothing without a clout title or clout job and most never get to retire and just enjoy life. Stay safe all and keep looking towards the day you can retire and enjoy that pension.
Dear SCC.....My apologies, I stand corrected.
There are NO MORE cameras in ANY CPD squad cars...FYI ...the "pilot program" has been done for months now and there will NOT be any cameras in squad cars in the future...FYI
6:10:50
So any "good" boss is a clout jagoff. YOU are the jagoff if you think EVERY good boss is here because of clout. Stick the barrell in the roof of your mouth and squeeze.
Let alone Civilian Custodian's are not suppose to be alone in any of the vault's the basis for armed officer's to be present. Special detail for stripped, WTF! Armed sworn have to transport weapon's ohhhhh this is may turn into one serious issue and being kept on the down low. Where do officer's in good standing with guns sign up for that payload? Watch out officer's koolaid clout secret's on a roll again.
Retired in Feb. 2006, just sold my bungalow in Mt. Greenwood to a wonderful Black family, can't wait to see the faces of all of those inbred, wart covered, liced infected copper's wives, when this family moves in. I shall be watching from afar! LMFAO!!!
Maybe they'll have a block party since the new black family is probably better then yours.
7:09 PM
ALL EXEMPTS are beneficiaries of CLOUT. There are NO exceptions.
Anyone know when they are making the next dic's class?
8:21
The same applies to captains and lieutenants. Sometimes, the officer could have actually earned the rank without clout.
Many of these bosses are just stupid political hacks who never did a lick of real police work in their entire career.
The Sorich verdict demonstrates that the City can longer condone even any suspicions of impropriety. The promotional process must be transparent, handled by outsiders and truly reward our very best and brightest with genuine experience as street coppers.
The current "leadership" of the CPD is an integral part of the problem. Even with our best efforts, it could take a generation for the CPD to become a truly professional law enforcement agency. Good policing and politics don't mix.
Let the Sorich verdict become the defining moment in rooting out all vestiges of political patronage and nepotism.
We can start by disposing of contemptible incompetent exempts who command no respect whatsoever.
I'm not positive, but the Sorich verdict would appear to open up a whole range of RICO possibilities where numerous other members of the conspiracy are liable for "conspiracy" to commit the individual criminal acts of which Sorich et al. have now been convicted.
I'm halfway expecting to see Bush and Cheney leading Daley out of the dinner in handcuffs with a jacket over his head. Very, very weird timing, but what a great 60th birthday present a bagged Daley would be.
Remember Florida and Bill Daley?
Yeee haaa, bring it on! God would this be the greatest photo op ever.
7/06
7:09pm
What a fucking goof! Captains and above are clout jag offs you fucking goof. Now wipe the boss'cum off your chin and being the pussy you are why don't you take that gun, you know the one you are afraid of and never had out of the holster, and stick it up your ass you dick sucking pussy.
When is that flamung bowl of fruit Acosta going to prison that fucking thief, lying etc.
He's hoping it will be soon. He wants to be cellmates with BIG DICK NICK.
With the Sorich convictions, let no one ever refer to a clout promotion as a "merit" promotion.
First Step: A detailed written and unequivocal definition of the word "merit" as it applies to advancement in the CPD. Native intelligence, as determined by an IQ test, and actual street experience in fast districts must be the major component of "merit".
Strip all the cowardly, dog-ass clout babies, house mice and political tools of all police powers. All too many of these impostors wouldn't know a decent felony arrest if it bit them in the ass.
Based on clerical and secretarial skills, issuing parking summones, etc., retain those who have never paid their police dues at a substantially lower salary. Once again, make us proud of being real police officers with superiors who command our respect, not our contempt.
Scc should start another post about clout connected supervisors and exempts so dirty politics in the city can truly be exposed.
Repeal "gold braid" legislation!
Haul all aldermen, police exempts and city dept. heads before a federal grand jury.
I made Sgt with M. Cline. We've been eligible to take the Lt's test since last Dec. 1. I don't begrudge Matt Lt, it just angers me that he only had to spend a few months in the district with all of you whiny fucks. I never would have taken this job if I had realized that 50% of you won't get out of the car, go down on jobs miles from location, and generally only do what you want to do. Another 30% of you are supercops who refuse to perform even the most basic police work because it is beneath your expertise. That's right, you've seen it all and done it all before you even got wear and tear on your gun belt. My favorite was the PPO telling the WC that he didn't need to babysit white shirts and that he brought in heads. It was awesome, what a dumbfuck. 20% of the blueshirts are awesome and carry the load for the dogs and supercops. Most of you can't be found all night. You can sure find me when you're looking for 3 on the end. Trying to be a decent guy and shielding everyone from the bullshit didn't buy me one ounce of co-operation from the above mentioned groups. Now I only take care of the team players. I've been studying my ass off for Lt's test just to get a little separation from you self centered bastards. I must have been wandering around in a daze for years not to see how useless most of you are. Reading this blog only confirms everything I believe. Tell me to fuck off now. You'll still be crying for your three on the end. One other thing, this ain't Khe Sahn, no one is digging a hole in a mountain to bury our colors in case we're over run. So wipe the thousand yard stare of your faces and quit your ranting. Most of you do nothing but steal from the taxpayers.
F#ck the politicians,the exempts,the other bosses, the blue-shirts, F#ck everybody...take care of your family,yourself and your partners (in that order) stay safe,give the city 20 and take whats rightfully yours.. 40 years of pension.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
Back to the subject at hand...The alderfucks. Correct me if I am wrong, but they do have the right to carry a firearm. Actually, I know I am right and most of them CHOOSE not to. Why risk your 6 figure PART-TIME job!
To 7:50:49
The neighbors will probably welcome the new family and rejoice at the fact that you and you asshole family are GONE. Who would want to live next to a sniveling rat shit like you and yours.
7/06
11:02pm
So Sarge tell us what a great balls out policeman you were. Hey fuck you Sarge you took the stripes and the money do the fucking job and quit bitching. As for Matt Cline just another fucking clout baby on this job.
7/06
11:02pm
Who the fuck needs some whiney Sgt for 3 hours on the end? Get over yourself asswipe
There must be a quota for RACIST police officers because there are a lot of you here. No wonder people hate you all and have no respect for you.
To: 12:03:
On Fri. and Sat. nights they have SOS in so-called "violence zones" an area of blocks we MUST stay in..whatever...generally somewhere stupid like 009 where we are bored out of our minds. Trust me would much rather be in 011, but I don't know who comes up with these stupid locations. TRU I belive does "roadside safety checks" on Fri. and Sat. nights, again seems to be a waste of where to use people on busy weekend nights.
I agree with the sgt..only 20 percent do their jobs on this force,im not a dog or a supercop, but coppers do call me to do the job when they want it done right. and i can really say..fuck all you dog ass coppers who can't event fill out an arrest report or know that the sign in room is on the 7th floor..im a p.o. and will always be a p.o. because i choose to be...
7/06
11:02pm
Furthermore unless you were there or in that war shut your fucking mouth about Khe San. If you weren't there you ain't earned the right to talk about that war asshole.
Off subject
Think about it 20% is an insult a made up ball park figure if you will. Unless, you have been in every district and unit over the past year and spent considerable time on all watches and worked with just about every officer, etc., which by the way is mathmatically impossible. I know things are getting worse but why attack the majority of your peer's. Apparently, frustration maybe.
Church congregation and minister's are they not taken care of in Tillman's ward? Why are police doing church service traffic control and on the hush advised not to ticket. What about double parker's. This church game started around what year and has since grown and gotten out of control. Yes, commander's and Alderpersona's we know you frequently group hug calling each other on regular basis and minister's are also your clout. Hey there Alderpersona's you doing your own computer data entry for police dispatch like you can for the 311 entries. We know you can track 311 pot hole, tree trimming and rat call data from your desktops.
7/6//06 1:55
Uh E.T.s are doing there field training now. They started their class 12 June 06. Will receive their title on 16 Sept 06. Once they are done with their field training the have to put in out of grade slips to get da pay.
7/6/05 1:55
Uh 5 E.T.s went north, and 7 went south.
The meeks thing is ridiculous, but his stupid church has traffic backed up on the bishop ford. someone should cite him for too many people in his damn church
If I have to have been at Khe Sahn to to talk about it, then you need to have been a Sgt to talk shit about supervisors. "Think about it", what the fuck is that? You idiots bitch about everyone, but as soon as someone takes a shot at you the math comes out. Here's some math for you. Matt Cline will make Lt in about a year, his old man will make him an exempt, and I couldn't be happier. Just to watch all you bitches cry and moan and complain and insult. It's fucking awesome reading this thing and watching the idiots have a meltdown. By the way 20% is a good number. There is a lot more to police work that kicking down doors or jumping through walls. Sometimes it is your job to pull a school crossing or prisoner guard. Don't like it? Quit. I'm sure employers are lined up waiting to exploit your considerable talents.
7/07
8:22am
I did serve during that war asshole. And I made Sgt before assholes like you heard of meritorious. And if you are a Sgt then try to be a decent one and don't come on here crying about patrolman. I took the stripes probably before you were on this job and definitely before little Matt was. So grow up and do your fucking Sgt's job for the pay you get and how about you remember where you came from that is assuming you ever wore a blue shirt in a beat car.
7/06
11:02pm
The above post also applies to you. Grow up and do your Sgts job.
"1st would you really want to join PBPA?
2nd at present time there is no mechanism to rid FOP of someone who is promoted.
3rd as a sergeant I would like to see the sergeants be represented by the same union as patrolmen et al.
4th we are non-voting members. Create bylaws that will unseat a member of the board if he or she is promoted.
Check PBPA website and see the last time it was updated. CFD Capts,Lts and Firemen/Paramedics are all in the same union, why shouldnt we?
7/06/2006 04:23:18 PM "
Answers to above:
No, joining the PBPA wouldn't be a whole lot better.
At the present time, there isn't, the FOP Board did vote to recommend against an amendment which removes the sergeants from the board. This amendment now goes to a floor vote at the September FOP meeting. If you don't want sergeants on the FOP Board, you might want to attend the meeting and make sure you vote for the that amendment.
The one union for all won't work for quite some time. That is certainly not something that can be done overnight. There are clearly a number of issues that would have to be worked out, but I don't really see any activity on making one union for all.
Someone did address this and state that they are a sergeant and still get a ballot, that wouldn't surprise me. As far as the mechanism to prevent sergeants from being on the Board, I addressed that above.
To those police officers who think it doesn't matter if sergeants are on the Board. It does. Until we can PROPERLY blend all of the ranks in one bargaining unit, sergeants should NOT be on the Board. Remember to the two sergeants that are on the FOP Board at this time, the FOP Board is a part-time job for them, as each of them is paid approximately 400 - 500 per month. That's $4,800 to $6,000 per year. I guess they don't have to work anything else.
I am a retiree and a member of FOP. I believe Sgts and above, if they are members like me, do get ballots to vote in the election of officers and trustees. Although we are members of FOP, we are NOT members of the bargaining unit and as such cannot vote on anthing partaining to the contract. Just my take on it. Be safe guys, retirement is great.
Sorry for the typos "anything pertaining"
to 04:23:18 PM
the reason we are not all in the same union is that when capt- sgt won the right to unionize and wanted to align with the fop it was all well and good with Dineen, but we would get no seats or votes in union business. It was basically the same deal as the patrolmen get from the fop. dineen or nolan (im old i forget things) wanted the glory of representing all of the CPD but wanted all the power to remain where it was thats why we are not all one union
7/07/2006 09:44:51 AM
Which wars are legit? Just the one you fought in? Sounds like you're dealing out the same shit that the WWII and Korea vets fed you.
talk about wasted manpower how about the fact that the 3rd watch foot man in 021 on 53rd street never touches 53rd and whenever he is called for a job lt ricky edwards says"hes in a meeting with me" this has been going on for 2 years he is rickys personal driver and when no neeeded goes home
What's really a waste is that goof on 1120/1106. He does nothing but incite the crowd and get the wildebeast going. They need someone who's a lot less stressed and is able to handle the job given to him not some out of control lunatic that can't do anything but yell and scream at everyone, including other sgts.
The other night he was on the zone and said that he WANTED a supervisor from another district to contact him and tell HIM why a car from that district did not show up. As you figured, the other district's sgt. just said fuck you and didn't contact him or send a car.
to the sgt who got promoted with cline...fuck you, the FLSA says you and every other boss that we have to ask for time will pretty soon have no choice but to sign that slip...our federal lawsuit is just about won. You can shove your chevrons up your cunt. I've never kissed ass to leave early, and never will. Gone will be the days of you and every other jagoff boss gloating because you weild the mighty time-on-the-end sword. And remember this, your white shirts won't keep you from getting your ass tore off from a group of savages on the one day a month Uncle Phil makes you leave the friendly confines at 35th/State to do nothing in a district. Smoke and mirrors is just that...your inevitable 10-1 is one that more coppers will drive away from than drive to, especially now that they have a better idea as to your identity. Good luck, bitch...your going to need it.
Sorry bitches, but 7/06/2006 11:02:02 PM hit the nail on the head on all counts. I couldn't agree with him more.
I hope all of you get made sgt one day, and get a bunch of prima donna's like yourselves to have to deal with. Oh I know, you'd be a "REAL" sgt...shut up and clear yourself from that fictious traffic stop, dogass!
Yes, there are decent cops in 009. If you work TRU or SOS, then you have seen firsthand how they come to your aid. PS. I work TRU, so I can attest to this fact. They have our backs out there and that's all that I care about.
Thank you to all PO's in 009...
Trust me fellas, the guys on this blog who are badmouthing the work of 009, are not from TRU or SOS!!!We appreciate all the assists you provide and know you are NOT a slow district.
We especially realize you have many quality personnel in your district. Many of our co-workers came from 009, so we know the type of officers 009 has. From a TRU officer who appreciates all that you do for us. Feel free to drop in 39/Wood and say hello anytime. Thanks bros. Because of you officers in 009, the TRU unit is successful in our mission. Diregard what 1:49PM said. TRU does indeed appreciate your help. I don't believe the poster is a TRU person at all.
009's the shit!
7/07/2006 07:52:21 PM
Sorry bitch but I have never worked at 35th Street. For the last year though I've been in one of those hated units. Brought here by a boss I worked for in the past. Why? Because I'm low key, my team gets the job done, and I squash acts of stupidity. We are never a problem. That's all a boss wants from anyone who works for him. The 10 P.O.'s on my team work hard and enjoy being treated like adults. I've been able to bring 5 hardworking coppers that I know here. Yeah, we have ridiculous perks; days, S/S day off, take home cars. I give everyone 2 duck days a period and leaving early is not an issue if they have something to do. But so what. Someone is going to have that spot. It may as well be me and anyone I respect that I can help. Most people on this job make their own clout by being a positive instead of a negative. There are scholarship students everywhere. Someone has to do the work. Try contributing instead of being a pain in the ass. The Sgt you work for today may be a Cdr in 5 years. He is going to be force fed people, but he is also going to want his own people around to do the work. I will always do my best to take care of good coppers and if I get promoted I'll continue to do the same. People did it for me and I hope those coppers working for me do it for others when they get promoted. I was never the best Patrolman or Detective, nor am I the best Sgt. But no one works harder than my team and we get the job done. So you won't get your day of gloating at my 10-1. If I make Lt, I won't be in patrol listening to angry selfish bitches like you for long. Why? Start at the top and read my post again. Hate me if you want, I don't have to walk in your skin. Now go back to smashing your dick with a hammer.
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