And Once Again, Racial Profiling
Racial Profiling is in the news again and we're going to use it as a prime example of how the left wing media sets the agenda in the City, State and Nation. Channel 7 and the Sun Times are running with what we will generously call "statistical bullshit." Here is the Channel 7 report in it's entirety:
Now check out the Sun Times article, which parrots the Channel 7 report, but includes a helpful little chart with actual numbers. Here's a stunner - total traffic stops:
You want to know our opinion of this all? Too fucking bad.
Here's a little information for the so called unbiased media. First of all, most coppers have no idea what race of driver is behind the wheel when they pull over a car. They don't even care. A law is violated, someone gets pulled over. Secondly, driver conduct determines quite a bit of how you get treated - the "Golden Rule" and treat others as you wish to be treated? If we pull over any driver and they are polite, respectful, have all of their paperwork in order and current license, sticker and insurance, guess what? THEY GET A BREAK! Seriously! It's called "discretion" and we use it all the time. Here's the flip side - you give us lip and attitude, don't carry a license, never had insurance on a car that isn't registered to you and when you rolled down the window it smelled like a cannabis packaging factory? You are getting tickets, you are getting your car tossed and you are going to jail if we find anything.
We'll let the good reverends explain where this whole attitude of "you're just pulling me over because I'm [insert color here]" comes from. Racial profiling our ass. Look at those numbers again - white people pulled over UP by 23,000, minorities DOWN by 25,000, all in the course of one year.
- Minority drivers have a greater chance of being stopped by police in Illinois than white drivers. That's according to the latest numbers from the Illinois Department of Transportation. Minorities make up about one-fourth of Illinois drivers but they accounted for nearly one-third of police traffic stops.
Of the minorities who were pulled over nearly 69 percent got traffic tickets. Less than 60 percent of white drivers were ticketed. I-DOT says police are also more likely to search cars of minority drivers.
Now check out the Sun Times article, which parrots the Channel 7 report, but includes a helpful little chart with actual numbers. Here's a stunner - total traffic stops:
- 2004 TOTAL Stops: 1,676,043 whites
- 2004 TOTAL Stops: 817,644 minorities
- 2005 TOTAL Stops: 1,697,063 whites
- 2005 TOTAL Stops: 792,263 minorities
You want to know our opinion of this all? Too fucking bad.
Here's a little information for the so called unbiased media. First of all, most coppers have no idea what race of driver is behind the wheel when they pull over a car. They don't even care. A law is violated, someone gets pulled over. Secondly, driver conduct determines quite a bit of how you get treated - the "Golden Rule" and treat others as you wish to be treated? If we pull over any driver and they are polite, respectful, have all of their paperwork in order and current license, sticker and insurance, guess what? THEY GET A BREAK! Seriously! It's called "discretion" and we use it all the time. Here's the flip side - you give us lip and attitude, don't carry a license, never had insurance on a car that isn't registered to you and when you rolled down the window it smelled like a cannabis packaging factory? You are getting tickets, you are getting your car tossed and you are going to jail if we find anything.
We'll let the good reverends explain where this whole attitude of "you're just pulling me over because I'm [insert color here]" comes from. Racial profiling our ass. Look at those numbers again - white people pulled over UP by 23,000, minorities DOWN by 25,000, all in the course of one year.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
36 Comments:
Answer to profiling....don't do a phuckin' thing on this job. Become a dog-ass and collect a check !!!!
Hey go to 016 and see just how racial profiling is done. Ask TRAVIS. He sure does like to write ONLY white folk! And esp. coppers families.
Travis only writes "white Folk" because we in 016 are doing our jobs, keeping the savages out!
You can't have it both ways, pal.
Travis is an ass hole!!! Anyone who DUI's COPPERS or their families, without absolutely having too (accident) is a F#$&^NG ASS HOLE!!! If he ever stops me, the chase is on, I"m not stoppin for his ass, fuck that city worker DUI writin salvage!!!!
Gov. BlagoJAGOFF just extended the Statistical traffic stop study for another 4 years, saying it was needed and necessary and then spouted off a bunch of election year bullshit to appease BLACKS and garner votes.
FUCK ALL DEMOCRATS!
or maybe minorities just can't drive. god knows they dont ever have a dl.
Look at the stats in the Dept's news release; I'd be complaining that the police aren't stopping enough people in minority communities based on the fact that there are far more police officers patrolling minority communities than white communitites.
Perhaps minorities violate traffic laws more often than whites, just like they do every other law? If the coppers in 007,011,015,005 etc. had the time and energy to write as many as were deserved the numbers would be through the roof. In the ghetto, driving is considered a "right" not a privilege.
Is it still racial profiling when you know that the black driver will have a suspended d/l, no insurance, and the plates probably won't come back to the car? Or is it still racial profiling when the black driver speeds and disregards every other rule of the road?
Bingo!!!!!! to the poster who stated what is never mentioned in any of these studies. High Crime areas have more police especially in Chicago. I do not know of a high crime area that is majority white. Simple math to all the assholes who can't expcept reality or common sense. More cops more tickets. Less cops less tickets.
The liberal left who has an agenda, never mention or even think about something called facts. I'll give them a fact from last night. I stopped 9 or 10 cars last night. Every driver was black but one. Every driver except 1 didn't have a license or it was suspended. I won't keep you guessing as to which driver did have a valid license. The non black guy had a valid license. I didn't write any tickets last night. I'm in tact/gangs so I don't write tickets unless the guy is a total JO. Think of how often coppers let somebody go thats not reported. I didn't do any green cards last night. U can't give a break for suspended or no DL.
The assholes in the media have no idea of whats really going on out there. Never mind that somebody broke the law. Everything must come to a perfect breakdown of race,tickets, and arrests. Those socialist dreamers will bring this country to its demise. I hope I'm dead by then.
Anonymous said...
or maybe minorities just can't drive. god knows they dont ever have a dl.
7/05/2006 07:45:38 AM
Let's see a study of minorities (illegal Mex) that don't have dl's or have susp/revked dl's.
If they never GOT a dl then they just don't know how to drive, and would PROBABLY violate more traffic laws.
Aren't WHITE people a minority in Chicago yet?
Ok, guys, here is how you balance it. Every one that works in 16, 17, 8, 22, 19, 18, etc just start HAMMERING the piss out of WHITEY.
Write him for everything thing you can find. When you hand him the 8 tickets tell him that POLITICIANS, THE MEDIA, and NORTHWESTERN U, feel that his free ride is done, that TOO many black folk get too many tickets, and that you have to even the "numbers" out.
No, no, no...I live in Bridgeport. WHITEY as you choose to call us would never stand for this type of "hammering." I assure you if we start getting bothered by our local police, we will report their profiling to our Alderman and Cmdr Roy. Police in our area know that we can get things expunged and that includes parking tickets and traffic citations. Nice try though!
Better known as Canaryville aka 9th dist.
SCC, why no thread about the CIA giving up on their bin Laden Unit??
Anonymous said...
No, no, no...I live in Bridgeport. WHITEY as you choose to call us would never stand for this type of "hammering." I assure you if we start getting bothered by our local police, we will report their profiling to our Alderman and Cmdr Roy. Police in our area know that we can get things expunged and that includes parking tickets and traffic citations. Nice try though!
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That's the whole point......
Actually Bridgeport and Canaryville are separate villages if you will? The two are not considered to being the same and yes, the poster is correct, if police ticket them unfairly they will gripe. Bridgeport is a classy place mostly made up of Italians and upper class citizens. Our expansion is phenomenal and richly deserved. We are the upper elite and many of us have ties to City Hall. Canaryville is made up of Irish drunkards. Don't call me Canaryville! Remember too, the Sox are bridgeportians!!!
Bridgeport? Upper class elite? YOU are full of yourself jackass. Apparently you never hear the gunshots going off near 31st Street and Morgan? Far from elite pal! The cops don't bother with you whinny ass snobs over tickets, because they are TOO BUSY dealing with the gangs in your beloved Bridgeport. You must live in a bubble, if you think Bridgeport is so great? It'd being over ran by hispanic gangs and you call yourself "richly deserved?" Hahaha...
Hey super sleuth--the CHICAGO White Sox are not called Bridgeportian Sox either.
If they want stats. how about the number of offenders who are either a one or a four who commit agg. batts or homicides in the city to go along with the victims that are either ones or fours. Hey d-unit how about some of these numbers. I bet that there are not to many offenders who are twos who are offenders for agg. batt. or homicides. Two are more likely to be victims in those cases. Can we get an answer to these questions, then send those stats off to the media to go along with the racial profiling stats that they can stick up their asses!!!
Hey, don't blame Northwestern, they're just counting the numbers. It's the media and everyone else who creates an interpretation of those numbers. The Dept is putting the best spin on those same numbers.
Minoritys commit da most crime. Dat's is the way it is. Ain't never gonna change neitha!!! Take it or leave it, but ain't safe no how!
7/05/2006 01:03:54 AM
You sir, are an ass!
It's nice to know that you are above the law, your shit doesn't stink, or whatever bullshit is running through you head that allows you to make such a stupid statement.
Grow up!
Bridgeport Canaryville?
Same thing.
Fucking southside mullet wearing hillbillies are all the same.
I live near Blue Island and 23 St. I proud display my "We Call Police" sticker in my home. I do call too, especially when I see gangs around the corners. NOW I witness the latino gangbangers hitting on girls on the streets. We call the police, but nothing happens. When will this stop? I father of three girls and want to know the police will protect them. I speak to policeman about this and he say the girls may be getting pimped out and that's why they be hit. No, no good. I want action and more profiling if that will make diffrence. Thank you.
The Spanish Cobras have been looking to further their prostitution ring near the area of Blue Island/23rd. They are targeting young spanish decent females ranging in age from 18-25. These are typical gang bangers, but they are showing a desire to "pimp" these girls more. This is a problem for all living near these hoodlums. There just are not enough po's out there who wish to stop these trouble-makers. Most coppers are too busy messing with the Kings. Personally, the idea of our girls being approached by these Cobras to perform for them is sickening. The district police are fully aware of their activity. Pilsen is being protected. Pimping in Pilsen is not a new concept. It's just another problem. Rest assured, the gangbangers are scared to pimp these girls when the Beat patrol cars are out. A little more police near Blue Island/23rd will curb their activities. Even if you just take a personal near the above location, we might be able to stop the Cobras from pimping. Just a thought...from a friendly cop giving his two cents worth
All this racial profiling would go by the wayside if we could do a couple of things. If the Illinois Secretary of state would release the number of Suspended D/Ls in Illinois and break them down by racial group, now that would be interesting. Also if there was a way to look up calls for service and see what neighborhoods call for the Police the most. I would be willing to bet a paycheck that Black and Hispanic neighborhoods call WAY more often then White Neighborhoods. Also, as a previous post touched on, if the city would post how many crimes have been reported and who the listed Offenders are for each index crime and who the victims are that would be an eye opener. I know, I live in a dream world. The above stats would blow away the myth of racial profiling that is being presented by the "minority" communities and the drive-by liberal media.
Do you think that more black people are stopped because more cops are in the balck areas of the city. Havent seen TRU, SOS, Gang Teams, or Tactical Teams in the white areas. I guess there is not enough crime there. Hey is that wrong? Telling more police to go where the crime is? Good management or racist?
Hey man, what about the pimping problem in 010? We deserve police to stop the gangs man!
To 4:14 Friendly Cop:
Exactly where does Blue Island intersect with 23rd street? Aint no Spanish Cobras in that area my brother. You trolling here?
I hope Travis gets hit by a drunk driver and dies slowly!
Anonymous said...
Hey, don't blame Northwestern, they're just counting the numbers. It's the media and everyone else who creates an interpretation of those numbers. The Dept is putting the best spin on those same numbers.
7/05/2006 01:36:20 PM
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Sorry to bust your bubble, you must be a NU grad, right?
NU requested and received the grant from the govt to perform the study.
It's their baby.
The fact is that many more police officers are patrolling black and hispanic neighborhoods. That is where the gangs, guns and drugs are. Another fact, although "not politically correct" is that blacks and hispanics tend to violate more traffic laws. They tend to have expired temp reg. false temp reg. expired plates, no plates, one headlight, no headlights, broken windows, drive hazzard-dilap. vehicles, drive with the music too loud, drive too fast, run lights, no turn signal, don't wear seatbelts, don't have their children in child safety seats(instead their children are observed climbing on the dashboard), drive with their seat leaning too far back, drink and drive, drive with open liquor, and drive recklessly. And when the police notice these violations we then find out that they have no DL, Susp. DL, no insurance and warrants. It's just a fact and I'm sorry if it offends someone. If the police wrote every voliator and did not give "plays" the stat keepers would really have some numbers to report!
Hey 8:44, try reading the NU "study" as you call it. It's just an analysis of the data. No interpretations, Lewis grad-boy.
You know the difference between Bridgeport and Canaryville? In Bridgeport they take take the dishes out of the sink before they take a piss. ohhhhhh snap!
On a serious note, both neighborhoods have a big gang problem and are not the garden spots some try to portray, even as the price of housing soars in both hoods.
remember when this "study" was not intended to come back at us?
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