How About Those Property Taxes?
Southwest Side residents got a jolt last week when their new property tax assessments arrived.
Neighborhoods from Beverly to Englewood saw assessments skyrocket -- a warning of higher tax bills for homeowners next year.
"My initial reaction was shock," said Scott Niekelski, 35, who watched the assessed value of his house in Garfield Ridge jump 41 percent. "They're looking at any way to squeeze anybody they can."
The tax-and-spend party of Illinois continues to soak the middle class. At least the northsiders are used to high property taxes. Southsiders are going to be in shock for weeks. Pretty soon, within 2 or 3 more taxes reassessment cycles, it's going to be awfully hard for a new copper to afford to live anywhere decent in the city.
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
55 Comments:
Hey im first !!!!!! and have to shut off the internet and cable because my DAM taxes are super high and I still dont get any police service in Garfield Ridge!
I honestly cant survive on a policemans pay anymore. I have to work sidejobs to make ends meet. They need to drop the residence.
As you all will soon see, The Mayor will blame the higher taxes on the 100 new coppers the city council voted for.
This is what war does to people. Blood is too expensive. Just stick it to the middle-class working man.
I've been renting for the last 3 years, i can't afford anything decent in a decent area. It's such bullshit. And i look at a townhome or condo in a nice suburb with double the space and bedrooms is half the price. It just isn't fair. If i wanna drive an hour each way to work each day so i can live in a nice quiet uncongested area, why shouldn't i be able to do this? FOP needs to put this issue at the forefront! Us newer guys are really screwed.
I received my assesment.....my house went up over %40... I plugged the numbers that were provided and my taxes will double...thats a %100 increase. This is absolute insanity. I figure my mortgage will increase by as much as $200 a month to cover my escrow. This will probably be the death nail of my plans to constuct an addition. I may be wrong but this outrageous tax increase is more then likely going to have an adverse effect on our local economy. Shame on these "redistribution of wealth" Democrats that the people of Illinois and inparticular the sheep of Cook County keep electing.
4 words:
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!!
I feel ya kid. I'm a dinasour and about to retire and really feel bad for you new guys. You can't afford a nice house and to raise a family in the city anymore without working side jobs (which takes away from being with your family). There is no reason anyone on here should be against lifting the residency rule. Why shouldn't you be able to live wherever you choose. The people who gripe are only the people who are afraid they won't be able to sell their overpriced houses to the "new" guys.
I was assisted by an Evanston Copper a few months back. He lives in the DuPage part of Bensonville!
FLOP need to get on this. GET RID OF THE RESIDENCY!!!!
Hey, look, I love this city too. It a shame that it is ran by a criminal organization for criminals. An honest guy has no place here. I'd love to life in 016, drive 10 min to a dist and just work a half way nice beat, but those days are gone. Period.
Taxes and death are the only 2 sure things out here. One always goes up and the other might be just around teh corner but, I'd rather be able to say WHERE I want my taxes going to, wouldn't you?
I'm sorry that you bought a ranch in Edgebrook at the VERY peak of this b.s. housing bubble. I'm sorry you didn't see the scam. I'm sorry you didn't buy 10 years ago.....wait so am I. Well, 10 yeas ago I was in college..... But I'm not sorry enough to take it off your hands for 20% over what you paid.
It's not my fault you bit on the poisoned apple. The same guys fighting against lifting the rule, are the same guys that are just flat out asking too much. I know this is a sore subject for YOU, and I know that YOU are intitled to EVERY dollar that YOU think should be coming to you.
Hey, join us there are plenty of rich lawyers and doctors to buy your ranch, right?
In fact I think a lawyer just bought one down the block, was it yours?
Let us the FUCK OUT OT OF HERE!!! I can't afford this city any more..I know that It was a requirement when I came on the job, but times have changed! Re-distribution of wealth is killing the middle class. I pay $900 dollars a month to send my kids to a private school and now my taxes are going up again!!!!! My wife and I would like another child, but now it looks unrealistic!
It is a shame that working an honest living allows you to feel like the working poor... The lifestyle of many of us would be dramatically improved if we had the "right" to reside where we wanted to...
I agree the hikes are outrageous.But if you think for one minute we'd get a better deal from the GOP you need a "brain enema".Not that I'm defending the Dems,theives and liars all.But the Republicans are no better.2 sides of the same coin. Ryan/Daley take your pick not much difference.The working man is DOOMED in this city,county,state,and country.It's not going to matter which party is in office.While you card carrying Democrats and Republicans are fighting over which party is more virtuous,the government will continue to pick our pockets while the wealthy among us enjoy all the tax breaks/writeoffs SUCKERS!
I wrote to copy and paste all the aldermen go to cityofchicago.org
then to this link http://www.housedem.state.il.us/index2.htm Click on legislators and send each one this letter from Sun-Times http://www.suntimes.com/output/hlife/cst-nws-tax04.html write in your own note to this assclowns. The corruption continues who is going to get paid off again? Daley finds money for all his friends and pet projects but again none for us!
Even if we could leave the city I doubt we could do better tax wise.Many of our suburban neighbors pay property taxes as high or higher than we do.The flip side is you do get more "bang for your buck." in terms of land/sq.footage.
Wow! The Wood and G.R. get reassessed and the deathnell sounds. Where were all y'all when your brothers and sisters were being bent over a year ago in Edison Pk, Oriole Pk and Norwood Pk a year or so ago???? Do what we did...contest it with the assessor's office. You need to find two other similar properties and the web site gives the details. It really isn't the end of the world. You just have to do some research.
SCC.....Exempt Rank ass-kissing SUCKHOLE !!!!!
prove the above comment.
HaHaHaHaHahHa. And those shmucks on the southside will continue to vote for Burke, Lipinski (fake pollack), Daley, and the rest of the backstabbers who trace their ancestry to the Emerald Isle. And the best part is they can't count on a promotion's pay raise since their hero's give thirty percent of the chevrons and bars to cronies who couldn't honestly compete for a job stocking shelves at a vegetable stand in the a Tenth District. Do I gotta hit you over the head otg do you see the pattern?
A Tax credit for being ordered to live in the city should be the next item on the arbitratiors list...
So is 7/05/2006 07:25:30 AM saying SCC is an exempt or an ass kisser of exempts? I'm confused. Because I've seen him leave all sorts of stuff up about exempts and even took the annointed one, Maria Maher to task for her stupidity. I think maybe the poster at 7/05/2006 07:25:30 AM is the exempt ass kisser trying to discredit blue shirts running a board that exempts have no control over.
Hey dickheads, Wal-Mart out in the burbs is hiring..........
Anonymous said...
Wow! The Wood and G.R. get reassessed and the deathnell sounds. Where were all y'all when your brothers and sisters were being bent over a year ago in Edison Pk, Oriole Pk and Norwood Pk a year or so ago???? Do what we did...contest it with the assessor's office. You need to find two other similar properties and the web site gives the details. It really isn't the end of the world. You just have to do some research.
7/05/2006 05:13:00 AM
You're right brother everyone keep your mouth shut dont complain about %100 increases in tax bill. Be like our northside brothers...contest it but dont say shit...complaining is a bad thing. Are you kidding me?.....thats the first thing I did was to find like properties....plenty like mine and all were charged roughly the same. Secondly,when the northside was "bent over" I never heard about it. Could that be the fault of people just taking it? Would love to know the percentage of successful contested tax assesments.
Anonymous said...
Even if we could leave the city I doubt we could do better tax wise.Many of our suburban neighbors pay property taxes as high or higher than we do.The flip side is you do get more "bang for your buck." in terms of land/sq.footage.
7/05/2006 05:04:17 AM
You'll get better bang for the buck on everything, schools, services, etc
Where were all y'all when your brothers and sisters were being bent over a year ago in Edison Pk, Oriole Pk and Norwood Pk a year or so ago????
What, you don't think YOURS isnt going up again. Just wait!
Anonymous said...
Hey dickheads, Wal-Mart out in the burbs is hiring..........
7/05/2006 10:59:15 AM
shut up dork you must be a suck hole crony merit boss to love this so much.
Remember guys, Daley wont charge you for the Olympics!
HAHAHAHAAHAH
Do they ever get tired of lying and stealing???? Do you think they finally collaspe into their Lazy-boy at the end of their day, wipe their sweat-covered brow, and just say out loud, "Boy, I just couldn't tell one more lie or steal one more dollar today. I'm done!"
Olympics won't be taxing, Daley says
The mayor has big plans for 2016, but they run toward partnerships, gifts, not taxpayers' wallets
By Kathy Bergen
Tribune staff reporter
Published July 4, 2006
Mayor Richard Daley says Chicago won't use local tax revenue to host the 2016 Olympics.
That might sound absurd, given that the city would need to build several mega-structures, including a track-and-field stadium that can seat 75,000, a state-of-the-art aquatics center, and an Olympic Village for thousands of athletes and officials.
If you think the Olympics will not cost the middleclass (what is left of us) taxpayers plenty, I will sell you all of Lake Michigan to a depth of 10 feet.
As far as the residency rule goes, telling you where you have to sleep is like telling you who to sleep with.
If you do move out of the city, please retain a Chicago voting address so you can vote the pricks out!!
Lifting the residency rule would be a great tool for an alternate mayoral candidate. But, it would have to be for all city employees and that will really affect the value of real estate.
Plus, any city employee or retiree retain the right to vote for mayor, or any political office that is on or appoints members to their pension board. That would get my vote(s).
You're right brother everyone keep your mouth shut dont complain about %100 increases in tax bill. Be like our northside brothers...contest it but dont say shit...complaining is a bad thing.
I never advocated keeping silent. The problem is that the home market screws everyone. You wanna refinance, need an appraisal. Selling, buying etc., now Crook county realizes it's not getting its cut. When the reassessing occured NW, there was a nice article about an official in the assessors office that lived in the Circle who was getting all kind of exemptions etc. she clearly did'nt deserve, yet what happened to that? Nothing to my knowledge. So, here is public complaint, a hue and cry, and NOTHING is done about it. Try to beat 'em at their own game because it seems bitching and moaning about it does absolutely nuttin'.
shut up dork you must be a suck hole crony merit boss to love this so much.
7/05/2006 11:14:30 AM
You must be an uneducated asswipe with your 2 year Malcom 10 degree that can't get a real job, you loser!
well spoken, FOP CLOUT POSTER
Hope you're enjoying the PUMP ROOM for lunch
I doubt the resid. rule would have to be lifted fr all city employee's. Currently the board of Ed is considering relaxing the rule for teacher's. I know we vote along side of their union during contract talks. Problem is Daley, and his mouth pieces who are looking for ways to pull in white teacher's who they claim are afraid of working in black school's, so their taking them on lol bus tours and declining black teacher's who don't want to travel, thus the backroom deals.
when could anyone survive on a policeman's pay? I have ALWAYS worked side jobs, and I still do... what else is new?
Anonymous said...
Lifting the residency rule would be a great tool for an alternate mayoral candidate. But, it would have to be for all city employees and that will really affect the value of real estate.
* Well, unfortuantely for all of us, the price of housing IS THE PROBLEM.
If the seller is bulldog asking too much everyone suffers. The new guys can't buy and the old guys can't sell.
Opening our options would allow prices to equlize arcoss the mystical Chicago border.
was a nice article about an official in the assessors office that lived in the Circle who was getting all kind of exemptions etc. she clearly did'nt deserve, yet what happened to that? Nothing to my knowledge.
Does this surprise you, in the 'Shity that Works'?
1848 yer beginning's Bridgeport settledment included Irish and German's and when times grew rough they grew cabbage. Canaryville and back of the yards have an official fancy name, New City. I rip on ya out of a twisted affection don't miss the stockyard aroma one bit.
Data on housing prices seem like a possible viable debate. One paycheck does not cut it, if you would like to own your own home like the poor folks do in this upside down turned town.
truth be told ; the hundred Police hires are to allow for sworn police guarding alderpersons offices during off hours.
In regards to the above, see the Slum-times article on how a Beat car is being forced to guard Dorthy Tillman's office. She even wants DNA testing of the brick that was thrown throew her window.
"throew" you got to be kidding!
Anonymous said...
"throew" you got to be kidding!
7/05/2006 08:14:59 PM
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Don't worry, I don't think SHE could spell it either!
I wonder if she even knows how to spell D-N-A.....
Just want to do some math for you guys.
$400,000 mortgage (avg NW side) for 30 years at 7% = $2,661. For JUST the mortgage.
My mo'ly take home is around $3,500........
To Spelling Police: "threow", "threew",
threouw" and others are all perfectly acceptable as Ebonics spellings. "Spellchecker" will soon have a new version for this diversity of language.
There are several good ways around the residency. You just have to be creative. Here's at least one way I know around it.
Have your payroll check direct deposited! The city looks where you cash your checks if a residency beef comes down!
Create a real-estate trust with either your wife or children as the beneficiaries of the trust. Place your current home in that trust. You also want to open a checking account in that trusts name.
Take a home equity loan out on your current home from your bank.
Start looking for a cheap place in the burbs or sticks.
Make a deal on said home with money from your home equity loan.
Have your mail redirected by the post office to a P.O. box in the neighborhood post office.
Place your former home that you still own up for rent through Section 8. A three bedroom house gets you roughly $2000/month under section 8. The check comes every 30 days and never bounces. You have the government check directly deposited into the real estate trusts checking account. Have the mortgage directly taken out of this account.
Move into your new digs but never be that friendly with your neighbors. If they ask your business, tell them you work for the county. NEVER EVER tell ANYONE where you really live! Use your old address for everything!!
7/05
11:15pm
Please tell me you don't think that would really work.Not to mention the paper trail like the department has your old address which is now rented section 8. But from past experience residency beefs are easy to catch cops or fireman. It's called sitting on the bogus address (surveillance) to see if you come and go especially before and after work hours. Also watch being followed from work to home.
Mine went up 50% to live in this dump city...
12:56,
How do you think it's been done over the years? I know for certain this works!
7/06
1:30am
Just was relating how I saw it done many years ago when a friend was beefed on but that was CFD. Also remember a copper that had to resign, retire for living with his girlfriend in I think it was Niles. Good Luck if it works.
Place your former home that you still own up for rent through Section 8. A three bedroom house gets you roughly $2000/month under section 8. The check comes every 30 days and never bounces. You have the government check directly deposited into the real estate trusts checking account. Have the mortgage directly taken out of this account.
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You're neighbors will drop a dine on you in a heartbeat when you (copper) disappears and 8 Wills move in. Nice thought. Too obvious!
call your aldemen, state elected asswipes protest but again the white folks are passive the illegals can protest and do but we do not why?
Dear Mayor, Gov. and County Board President,
Please raise my taxes. The "people" of Englewood need new sidewalks and a roller coaster in Ogden Park. Also, our illegal brothers and sisters in Pilsen are not getting adaquate health care to ensure they are pumping out healthy little ninos.
Thank You, Concerned Citizen.
The residency rule never really bothered me, until I just saw my new tax bill. Why aren't the CTA and CPS employees FORCED to live in the city?
the bubble will burst......verry few actually have the kind of income reqired to purchase the average chicago middle class home.
just let rates go up another 1.5% and the stall will begin.
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