OFFICER SAFETY ALERT
In Areas 4 and 5.
Until further notice, ALL JOBS dispatched will be handled by a 10-4 car OR two one-man cars PLUS a Sergeant.
Evidently, FOXNews was more on the ball than our own Department when they broadcast the report that the new breeds were seriously targeting a Chicago Police Officer or Officers.
This represents a complete 180 degree turn from what was read to us at roll calls for the past week.
Maybe someone can address the hideous manpower shortages now? We saw that last week on midnights, a couple of districts in our Area were averaging 4 cars DOWN for the ENTIRE TOUR. That's about a third of the District manpower for any civilians or media types reading the blog. We are stretched so thin, it isn't even funny now.
Be careful out there.
CORRECTION? ADDITION: We're being told by a couple of people that this is for the 1st and 3rd watches only, responding cars are TWO two-man cars PLUS a Sergeant (5 total). The Districts are assumed to be in immediate RAP beginning 3rd Watch. Conflicting reports have TRU and SOS deployed to Areas 4 and 5 and rumors abound of Tact and Gang teams in uniform.
Until further notice, ALL JOBS dispatched will be handled by a 10-4 car OR two one-man cars PLUS a Sergeant.
Evidently, FOXNews was more on the ball than our own Department when they broadcast the report that the new breeds were seriously targeting a Chicago Police Officer or Officers.
This represents a complete 180 degree turn from what was read to us at roll calls for the past week.
Maybe someone can address the hideous manpower shortages now? We saw that last week on midnights, a couple of districts in our Area were averaging 4 cars DOWN for the ENTIRE TOUR. That's about a third of the District manpower for any civilians or media types reading the blog. We are stretched so thin, it isn't even funny now.
Be careful out there.
CORRECTION? ADDITION: We're being told by a couple of people that this is for the 1st and 3rd watches only, responding cars are TWO two-man cars PLUS a Sergeant (5 total). The Districts are assumed to be in immediate RAP beginning 3rd Watch. Conflicting reports have TRU and SOS deployed to Areas 4 and 5 and rumors abound of Tact and Gang teams in uniform.
posted by SCC at 9:34 AM
153 Comments:
It is time for the leadership of this department to address the critical shortage of manpower in the Districts. Four primary beats down per watch is not uncommon, and there hardly ever is a wagon, unless it is hidden as a beat car. Is it really necessary to have so many people in TRU and NAGIS. Must it take a tragedy or two before this department wakes up and fully staffs the districts?
Last night a req sup call came out during this new dispatch protocal and along with the sergeant, ispatch assigned a 99 unit to back up and then a 10-4 unit to back up the first. I suppose that on days, using this proceedure you would need to down 4 cars for one job (1-sgt, 3-99 units).
MY SUGGESTION TO ALL SERGEANTS...
DO NOT go on your PDT and start 19-Pauling the "Bullshit Jobs". There were sergeants that were doing this last night in an attempt to clear the massive backlog. This practice SHOULD STOP. Downtown has its head so far up its ass they have NO CLUE what its like out hear in patrol anymore.
At a staff meeting our district commander more or less DEMANDED that all the sergeants should do this practice to help clear up the backlogs. I REFUSE! Afterall – It’s a false report if you 19-Paul a job and never go on it. Downtown needs to wake up and get these goofs out of the units BACK in the DISTRICTS, BACK on afternoons and BACK on midnights.
If they wish to keep so many of these out of control inexperienced kids in SOS or TRU, then they should also be handling the massive backlogs in the district when their not handling the 1 bag dope arrests.
They were refusing people lunches and personals because of this crap also. If your contract is violated.. GRIEVE IT! Make sure you get paid.
Also.. the POs that were driving the sergeants around were being refused lunch. This is wrong. ALL sergeants should also go down on the radio and get their 2 personals and 1/2 hour lunch.
They have to stop treat district patrol personnel like SHIT.
Off topic regarding the partial video of LAPD trying to apprehend a Felon that was taken by a bystander. I for one will beat the shit out of this fucker. A reminder to all the goofballs who tries to resist this is what you deserve and maybe more. To the news reporter who publish this, your so obvious that you are desperate for something to publish, I bet you're a struggling reporter who wants to make some name in expense of other people. I hope that one of your family or friends cross path with this Felon and he fucks you good. Don't even ask us for help. A partial video footage what a crap!!!!
AND TO MY FELLOW POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE, BE CAREFULL OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS, TECHNOLOGY CAN BE ADVANTAGEOUS AND DISADVANTAGEOUS FOR US. BE SAFE OUT THERE.
FOP still keeps mouth shut!!!
Speak up for your membership!!!
seince when does the chicago police department allow some sawed off street gang to TARGET its officers.
this gang should be dismantled in short order !
IF THE POLICE OF THE CITY AREN'T SAFE.....WHO IN THE CITY IS ?
LONNNNNNG OVER DUE!!!
the dept doesnt give a f$%k about manpower shortages. just as long as there's enough coverage and bullshit activity in the DOC
If the bosses really cared about the well being of the Patrol Officers and the citizens of Chicago, they would put all Tact and Gang teams in uniform, in marked cars, and have them answer calls. I am so sick of this bullshit attitude that "I am too good to answer calls or fill out a case report." Phil Cline would rather have huge backlogs and POs answering calls 99 than take the political heat for solving the problem. In addition, the CAPS office should be closed down and those POs put on the street. If a CAPS problem arises, the WC can call them in. Next, the front office staff should have to be out on the street two days a week. Cline should demand that the Sergeants in every District be given a shotgun and trained accordingly. Next, disband the Narcotics unit and put those guys back in the Districts. I don’t know about you, but for all of their efforts over the years, the drugs on the street are cheaper, more plentiful and of better quality. Officer safety should be the number one concern followed by the well being of the citizens. OK, now start crying because you are going to lose your soft spot…but I’d rather listen to you cry now than at an Police Officer’s funeral.
This is all up to the commander, watch commander, LT, SGT of the district they work. They the supervisors if they have brains still left inside their thick skull should not allow this due to officer safety. They are the only ones who can address this problem and not allow this to keep on going on. The question is do they care, I think not they only care for their numbers and not the safety of the Officers who work hard for them to give them their numbers to make them look good.
You can go to any district on Friday and Saturday especially on the 1st watch that you will only see 1 or 2 two man car and the rest is a one man car. Then on Sun and Mon the whole watch is pack with two man car, so much that there are two wagons two 06 cars two traffic cars when you don't need them anymore.
Does the supervisors know this? Yes they do and are they doing anything? Who knows. Why? who knows.
Any commander, watch commander or any supervisor want to give me a answer why this is going on like this. Is this the norm thing?
9/27; Harvey, IL: PO Thomas COOK, Metra PD
10/23; Maywood, IL: PO Thomas WOOD, Maywood PD
While the above two UNSOLVED ASSASSINATIONS of Officers COOK and WOOD occurred over 33 miles apart within four weeks of each other, I would not dismiss out of hand the possibility that these execution/ambush style homicides were related.
I have no inside knowledge of either atrocity or this "New Breed" gang operating in Area 4.
Nonetheless, I pray that all CPD and suburban law enforcement be extremely cautious, particularly in high crime areas during the hours of darkness.
Armed ambushes such as the COOK and WOOD homicides were all too frequent both here and in New York City over thirty years ago.
The murders of CPD officers Kenny Kaner, Leroy Berry, Jim Severin and Tony Rizzato immediately come to mind.
In New York City, members of the Black Liberation Army, a BPP splinter group, fatally ambushed NYPD MOS Joseph Piagentini, Waverly Jones, Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie.
Severin-Rizzato, Piagentini-Jones and Foster-Laurie were all double ambush murders of police officers.
Be very careful out there, guys!
area 5 25th 1st watch...all cars must be 2 man units....sgts also had to have a PO with them........all jobs dispatched MUST have 2 10-4 cars along with a SGT responding at ALL times......dispatchers even with heald several in progress calls because there were none of our 3 sector sgts to ride as back up.........a credible threat has put us this far back.......who does this hurt.....not us....this hurts the tax paying citisens who demand a prompt response..........there is a serious problem and its not the PO's......maybe its about time to start giving us the patrol strength downtown CLAIMS we have....everyone be safe and if you come across one of those POS new breed #$%^ may you punish them.
last night even the 10-4 cars were required to have another 10-4 unit ride on all jobs, with no way for the first car to wave off the assist! it was horrible
here's a link
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/11/illinois.standoff.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
IF I WERE KING:
IT'S MY OPINION THAT TACT AND GANG TEAMS (ATLEAST THE ONES IN A/1) HAVE BECOME "WATERED DOWN." IN SOME DISTRICTS THEY ARE JUST FILLING GRABBING BODIES OFF THE WATCH TO FIL THE SPOTS. PEOPLE YOU NEVER THOUGH WOULD BE CONSIDERED ARE GOING ON TACT/GANG TEMS JUST TO COVER OPENINGS. IN SOME DIST'S THEY ARE BORROWING FROM ONE TEAM TO COVER FURLOUGHS FROM ANOTHER. TOO MANY SPOTS. TACT USED TO BE HARD TO GET ON - SOLUTION - CUT OUT ONE GANG TEAM PER DIST - KEEP THOSE OFFICER WHO TRUELY KNOW THE GANGS AND PLAYERS - DROP THE REST BACK TO THE WATCH. ALSO, DROP ANY HOUSING TACT CARS IF YOUR DIST HAS THEM. THAT'LL BE A START. OH YA, POLICE YOUR DOGS....AND WHERE'S THIS MEDICAL INTEGRITY UNIT...SEE SAME OL NAMES ON THE MEDICAL...
If they wish to keep so many of these out of control inexperienced kids in SOS or TRU
Here we go again, a few assholes get caught stealing and everyone in those two units are out of control and inexperienced? both of those units have poeple with quite a bit of time on so obviously don't know what you're talking about, there's probably more of what you describe running around in most districts, out of control and inexperienced due to the current FTO program, so give it a rest. We need more bodies, period!
before you cut ANY gang/tac, sos, tru teams you have to hire more p.o.'s, cut desk jobs down, cut CAPS down. gangs/tac are the ones making a difference/making arrests at least in my district. call out the dogs in your district (you know who they are), get the people who shouldn't be on the medical off.
simply hire more p.o.'s. oldest to youngest department within 5 years.
I would advise a work slow down till these problems are solved.
TRU should be disbanded and all sent back to districts. We already have SOS, so we don't really need the baby SOS. Or even disband SOS. Two of the same type of units make absolutely no sense. At least have them answer calls in the district they are in. In uniform, in marked cars...why can't they answer calls?? If you are going to deplete the districts, then use them how we need them. Too bad nobody can use common sense to figure shit out. But that's the CPD for you... come up with some fairly useless ideas. Contact cards, seat belt safety checks, ineffectual gang/narcotic loitering event numbers, two units that are basically the same shit.......and so on.
yes we need more bodies. they are not hiring enough to fill that need. so use the ones we have. no need for both sos & tru!!! i swear you sos/tru guys take everything as apersonal affront. the truth is there are too many in your units (doing the same f***ing thing) and not enough people to work the districts. i'm sure if you guys had to answer calls in the district you were working in, you would not like it. so either answer calls within districts (backlogs galore) you are in or go back to the districts so you can.
There is nothing more important than the safety of our Officers. Give Patrol the manpower they need NOW. The exempts, (exempt from responsibility when things go wrong) of the Chicago Police Department know how to fix this problem today. It is time for the leaders of this department to be true leaders and do what needs to be done to ensure the safety of our Patrol Officers. Phil Cline needs to stand up and do the right thing even if it means less paper gets shuffled at HQ, fewer CAPS meetings, and fewer guys and gals hanging around Homan Square all day. And Phil, while you’re at it, why not put a SORT car in each of the 10 busiest Districts. Maybe less time for the SWAT guys to train and strut but a better response time when we need them.
Per an E-Mail from the Supt THE THREAT IS REAL! 4-5 P.O.'s are to be shot most likely in Area 4. This comes from sources (ex gang leaders) who are used to "negotiate" conflicts between gangs. They tried to negotiate this and the New Breeds said "F- that...its on". I say 2 two-man cars to each job and one of the coppers should be carrying either a shotgun or a rifle (NOT a copy of the latest zero tolerance bulletin) We MAY end up in some shoot outs, officers MAY get injured but this is a turning point. We CAN NOT put our tail between our legs and run. We must face this serious threat head on or lose any credability we have as a police department. It is starting to bite the Dept in the As# that they promoted paper pushers to the ranks of the uppper eschelon whose only response to threat like this is "issue a zero tolerance DOC bulletin, do a dispersal, and write up any abandoned buildings" I could name 1/2 dozen good bosses (most Lt's and former Tact guys) who are ass kickers but are stuck on midnights somewhere because they are not "admin" people and don't have a phone call. THOSE are the ones we need leading the charge right now but they are tasked with making sure the movers are up to index.
Be safe out there and WAIT for your backup.
If the bosses really cared about the well being of the Patrol Officers and the citizens of Chicago, they would put all Tact and Gang teams in uniform, in marked cars, and have them answer calls.
This guy is right. The best solution, at least in the short term, is to get these Tact and Gang Officers in uniform helping to answer calls for service. While some of the better lunch places would suffer a loss of business and the number of 1 and 2 bag dope arrests would go down, atleast our Patrol Officers would be a little safer out there. Oh yea, sorry but they'll also have to work a full day.
Hey Northside:
The copper killed in Maywood stemmed from a domestic. He (RIP) was doing the wife of the offender (a former Maywood copper) who set up the ambush. Ex copper in custody. Has been in custody since the next day only Maywood doesn't have a hack like Monique Bond to air all of their dirty laundry and they know when to tell the media to F-OFF
What is with all the Tact/Gang bashing?
I am NOT on Tact/Gang, but I am thankful for those officers that are on those teams.
We all know there are plenty of a-holes out there that deserve to be arrested, but the beat officers don't have the time and therefore the tact/gang guys are able to put pu$$y gang bangers in their place. If not for the tact/gang officers this city would have many more gang bangers wanting to shoot the police.
Be safe and back each other up.
Zone 3 assigned 4 cars and a sergeant to a traffic accident this afternoon in the 13th District
I hear thet the shitheads in 011 are blacking out streetlights on several blocks possibly to assist in an ambush. Where is Air-One with their billion candlewatt light to help us out??? Don't tell me its still "in the shop" like it has been for 6 months. These shitheads have rifles, night vision goggles for an ambush. FORCE THE DEPT TO GIVE US THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO FIGHT THE WAR THAT HAS BEEN DECLARED ON US!!!!
I was glad to see one of the SORT cars driving around Lincoln Park today doing nothing while all these threats of killing the Police on the westside by these shit head gang bangers.
As always excellent use of police resources
I couldn't agree more with 11:46:05 A.M. This is a SAFETY ISSUE! Where is FOP?
Work in 016 on days. All jobs, including parkers and traffic accidents are to have two cars assigned. Midnights had half the cars down because they doubled up the one man cars and downed some. Afternoons has a few 3 man cars because they are not allowing anyone to go out 99. We have a huge district and lots of service calls (not too much exciting stuff) but we were running all over the place today it was STUPID.
Put the blame for this straight where it belongs. On the shoulders of Cline and Company, and FOP, who's silence is deafening. The upper echelon of this department is only concerned about their specialized units, and the DOC and doesn't care about the guy and gal in the districts. I have no problem with specialized units per se, but do they really need so much manpower when disrict law enforcement is so under staffed.
If a good citizen was looking to purchase a AR, who makes the best??
How much could one expect to pay.
Any suggestions, please.
Stay safe CPD, and anyother LEO's out there.
To the media who read this: a backlog is when there are more jobs waiting to be dispatched than there are cars available (meaning not already assigned jobs). I used to dispatch and this used to be a common occurance only in the busy zones 6, 8, 10 on afternoons. Now there are backlogs before noon (at least on zone 6) This is ridicoulous!!. WE need more people, not more efficiency. In this city in this age, a criminal can get away with just about anything, as the sgts. only want you to answer calls, not solve the problem by arresting anyone!!. I hope my family ( or yours0) is never a victim!
Bring back Frank Pape!!!
Take heart, all of ye oppressed citizens! When I become King, there will be a gangbanger hanging from a lamppost on every corner!
It should only take 2 days & things will get better!
We are down manpower everywhere. In every district, and in the detective division. Can't get rid of every unit, but we can get rid of 100's of pencil pushers or broads working downtown typing on the computers. No need for a 200 person D.O.C. unit that doesn't do shit and is sent back out in the districts anyway.
Next:
to 1:20:33 - The Watch Commander balances the D.O.G. for the watch. We are short manpower. Deal with it. Not the supervisor's fault we don't have people. Weekends are going to be thinner becuase that's when people generally take time. Would you rather have the Watch Commander deny time for everyone because we are short and the cars have to be manned? Remember, personal days, BFD's, C.U., etc. can be denied for manpower reasons. Wait until that order comes down and see how you react. I know time and even personal days are denied a lot in some districts already. Ten days doesn't mean anything if the W/C say he has to man all cars 10-4. Not even grievable. We are short. That is a City of Chicago problem. The fact that we have so many units is the CPD's fault.
Next:
The New breeds. Are you fucking kidding me? Shut these motherfuckers down. Stop being pussies andstart being the police. If they cross the fucking street wrong, throw their garbage on the ground, have dope, no license, drinking, pissing, badf attitude, lock them the fuck up. Send them to court as a choice of the W/C instead of giving bond. Stop being dogasses. Lock up the fucking juveniles even if it takes all night waiting for the 2 Youth Officers working in the area. Do your fuckig jibs Don't let up one fuckig bit. When the money stops, so does the bullshit. Shut down their tips. Get them from arcotics loitering, dope, weapons, etc. Do not let up. Put threats against us. Fuck them. Do your fucking jobs and we wouldn't be in this situation right now. Since when do we allow some shitgheads to dictate how we respond to jobs? They already won. Time to stop the bellyaching and start acting like the police. Sorry, had to vent. This is bullshit.
Off topic: Channel 2 news Monday night- Chicago Police Hiding Homicides. Must be reading the blog.
work days in 015 havent seen any outside units and plenty of cars are 99. I was shocked that 025 allowed p.o.'s to sign out shotguns, heck if you wanted to sign one out you were s.o.l. because they were all signed out. I think its time the department seriously start think of allowing the troops to carry better fire power than the shotguns. Please be safe, it aint worth it.
FUCK THE REST OF US ????
So the breeds or whoever else wants to kill us KNOW THAT AREA 4 and AREA 5 are a "hard targets"
I guess shits cant read or drive and refuse to go to Area 1,2,3 to kill us.
who the fuck is making these protocals my 5 year nephew ???
MAKE THIS CITY WIDE !!!
MAKE TACT/GANG/GUN/ANET/ go uniform, go 4 deep and start answering jobs !!!!!
I mean NOW
GREAT INFORMATION S.C.C. AND READERS - T-H-I-S IS THE BLOG'S REASON 4 BEING: FRESH & ON-TIME SAFETY INFO! BEWARE OF DOGS THAT BITE - PUT `EM DOWN LIKE THE ANIMALS THEY ARE / BACK EACH OTHER UP / GIVE CITY HALL HELL FOR THIS DANGEROUS MANPOWER SHORTFALL (WORLD CLASS CITY MY ASS!
***SHITCAGO, SHITCAGO, ASSAULT-RIFLE CLOWNS; SHITCAGO, SHITCAGO, LEAD FLYIN' AROUND...***
Sgts ride 10-4 also, no ticket cars, no traffic cars, no bikes, trikes, ALL PATROL ALL 10-4, ALL ASWERING ASSIGNMENTS.
INSIDE PEOPLE
2 p.o's on Desk, Neigborhood relations in uniform 10-4 on the street answering jobs.
but will get done FUCK NO,
fat phill gets another dead cop fro his memorial and more face time on TV.
if we are serious about this, then lets get serious !!!
Everyone needs to start doing some proof reading before submitting your blogs. Some of these blogs are horrible. We really look like mopes when we can't even spell correctly. Imagine what outsiders reading these blogs think of our department when they read our wonderful rants. Take the time to check your blog before hitting submit so we can at least look like we have some brains.
Let's not go blaming the shortage of personnel on the Sgts., Lt's., & Capts...Don't forget, some people like to take time due once in awhile. We certainly don't want time due being denied or everyone would be whining about that. We can look at King Richie for the shortage and probably no one else. Keep voting Democratic(LOL).
There were like 5 rapid cars down on 3rd watch in my district in the affected area.
I heard there were more outside units showing at the district up during the night than the whole 1st watch combined.
Off topic:
Ding Ding, the witch is gone!
016 3rd watch may become a nice place to work again!
Have fun 020!
You asshole, 11/11/2006 03:43:10 PM !!!
Why the fuck would you put that shit on here?!?!?!? Apparently Maywood does not need a stooge like Monique Bond when we have cunts like you to stain "the laundry" further!
I hope you reap what you sow, dumbass!
why is there more then 1 10-4 cars at alarms, t/a, domestics? cant see the purpose???
more then one car should be assigned to gang dist, sellings, in-progress, suspious calls.
3:43 PM...or anyone else:
Has anyone been CHARGED with the murders of Maywood canine PO Thomas WOOD and/or Metra PO Thomas COOK?
It is my understanding that the cases remain as UNSOLVED HOMICIDES. Both officers were slain on the late third watch while sitting alone in their idling squad cars.
Anonymous said...
I was glad to see one of the SORT cars driving around Lincoln Park today doing nothing while all these threats of killing the Police on the westside by these shit head gang bangers.
As always excellent use of police resources
11/11/2006 04:12:46 PM
Hey jerk
I live in Lincoln Park And I was glad to see one of the SORT cars driving around too
understand this, I'M not a cop...
I pay taxes.. My property taxes were 12000.00 just this last year..
I'm glad to see any police cars in my district period.
I don't even care when I wake up in the morning and find a Bullshit ticket on my car 3 mins after 9am for the once a month street cleaning, which is the only time a police car comes around. I'm just glad that a police car was around
I had my Garage broken into
I had My car broken into
what's next my house ????
hopefully someone will show up to take the report or should I call 311 and make the report over the phone???
So...Keep giving your police service to the poor on the west side of the city (who don't want you over there anyway)and don't have as much to steal as I do..
because maybe I'll just move to the burbs and take my money with me.
understand this I support the police 100%
And I love seeing police cars in my area....send us all your new guys and hard chargers they are welcome
All I want is to get a good nights sleep knowing that you guys and gals are out there protecting me and my stuff that I work so f-ing hard for. without having to jump up every time I hear a noise.
SO Officers keep up the good work
and the next time your eating lunch and someone picks up your tab
remember it could have been me
Foolish people, doing a fools errand.....exactly what alot of you Officers have allowed to happen to you. Decapitating districts personel through-out the city, in order to create all of these prickly ass specialized do nothing units.....the cost will be your safety, its your life. If the only thing that you are going to do is bitch on this site,,,,you deserve what you get..
it was 2 vice lords who took a shot at the police in 022 on thur. a rifle and handgun recovered two in custody police ok.
SCORER said...
Its obvious that the reason we are so short on the street, is the fact that those specialized units
(SOS, TRU, SATURATION, GANGS, ETC.) are depleting the districts of police officers TO WORK BEAT CARS.
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Anyone that says SOS, TRU, SAT etc don't help is too busy hiding in the hole to notice! Those guys back up the beat cars ALL the time.
Might I keep reminding you that it was a TRU guy that got shot along side a 010 district guy a year ago right by the new 10!
Look that copper in his eye! Put your finger in the scar in his bicep, then tell him he's a lazy bum!
Go tell the mother of the last Chicago Police Officer that died in the line of duty he's good for nothing. THAT officer was from TRU!
They tried to negotiate this and the New Breeds said "F- that...its on". I say 2 two-man cars to
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It's pretty obvious, whoa re the relative of the joes that got kilt? Those are the instigators.
11/11/2006 07:05:17 PM
Is this better ? Yur a phukin moron jakazz !!
Anonymous said...
I hear thet the shitheads in 011 are blacking out streetlights on several blocks possibly to assist in an ambush. Where is Air-One with their billion candlewatt light to help us out???
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Anonymous said...
If a good citizen was looking to purchase a AR, who makes the best??
How much could one expect to pay.
Any suggestions, please.
Stay safe CPD, and anyother LEO's out there.
11/11/2006 04:35:11 PM
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An AR is like your clout.....never working when you need em!
Get an AK!
Would u please stop living in the past, wetting your Depends, and move to Florida !! What a f*ckin dinosaur.
NorthSide said...
PS if your going to kick my ass do it on a Wednesday when Senoirs get a discount !!
Blaming 35th Street for the Breeds threatening to kill a copper? You sound like a bunch of finger pointing pussy ass democrats.
Stop whining on the blog and go be the police.
This Sounds Like a Job for Captain Caveman. Let him out of his Southside cage.
Northside....Im going to bed soon. Could you please tell me another dinosuar police story so I can go to sleep all nite....ZZZZ PS Theres more to life than police work....move on with yourself.
We need to start supplying the media with all the facts.
11/11/2006 01:22:09 PM
You really are a moron !!
Anonymous said...
You asshole, 11/11/2006 03:43:10 PM !!!
Why the fuck would you put that shit on here?!?!?!? Apparently Maywood does not need a stooge like Monique Bond when we have cunts like you to stain "the laundry" further!
I hope you reap what you sow, dumbass!
11/11/2006 09:14:19 PM
Monique Bond gives me a woody....for real !!
"a do nothing unit"
interesting phrase an almighty, all-knowing, hard-charging, real police, district copper uses. you are ignorant. you sound as dumb as the ghetto dogs that act the fool when a camera is stuck in their face.
according to 2 or 3 guys on here, and i can tell by the writing style its the same 2 or 3 people. if i work (the term is work) tact, gangs, intel, nagis, sos, tru or any of the other thankless jobs this department has to offer, im a do-nothing, peice of shit that personally stripped his district so he can no longer have a 2 hour lunch.
anyone on this job more than 5 minutes knows idiots like you that do nothing but whine, its never you its always someone elses fault your life and job sucks. i say fuck off!!!!!!
i know alot of good coppers, hundreds maybe a thousand. guess what prima dona, they work in units and tact and gangs and tru and sos and yes, they even work in districts. dont think im disagreeing with a need for more police. we are all feeling it. dont think you are a saint walking the earth saving everyone. there are alot of good people on the job doing some incredible things. and alot of dogs making all of our jobs much harder. stop being such a hater because you got turned down for your 'dream' job. trust me, those jobs are no real prize. do something other than whine on a website and you may get a 'nice' spot and see its the same tiger just different stripes. we feel the heat too, we choose to strike back at who deserves it. try locking someone up tonight instead of whining
If all beats were actually manned it is probable that the need for all these specialized groups would lessen. That of course supposes that the manned beat cars actually do somthing. You know, like being the Police!
the idea: the current admin has NO concern for answering calls, manpower in districts, etc.; Cline believes that dope drives everything, so he beefs up personnel in narcotics, TRU, money laundering teams, etc., etc. The fact the the ordinary citizen has to wait, sometimes hours, for police service, is irrelevant to 35th St. What is lost is, dope comes into this country by the ship-load....local law enforcement is just spinning their wheels (and generating great press releases)..
No, Northside, no charges and it has all but disappeared from the news let alone anything else. A crime scene cleanup company raised the amount for any leads for the Maywood Officer.
They have both left behind widows and children, and nobody is aggressively pursuing this.
May St Michael protect all of you out here.
Wow,
Nothing on the FOP or SGt's website about this....
Who woulda thunk it!!!
WELL ITS AGREED THEN BOYS AND GIRLS. WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED AND NOW WE MUST ANSWER... LOCK THESE DOGS UP AND DRY THE CASH FLOW. WHEN THE MONEY STOPS, SO WILL THE THREATS. DOORS NEED TO COME OFF HINGES, HEADS NEED TO BE SPLIT. THEIR BLOOD NEEDS TO FLOW NOT OURS. PUT IT OUT, WE KNOW THE MEDIA READS THIS SITE, LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW GROSSLY UNDERMANNED WE ARE, HOW PATHETICALLY OUTGUNNED WE ARE. WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE BETTER PRODUCTS TO PROTECT OUR LIVES BECAUSE WHY? GLOCK, H&K, SPRINGFIELD, THESE GUYS DIDN'T BUCK UP TO THE BOSSES? THE BRASS WANTS TO CRUCIFY THE WORKING POLICE IN THE MEDIA TO SCARE US STRAIGHT. TURN IT RIGHT BACK ON THEM, LETS USE THE MEDIA TO SPOTLIGHT THE PROBLEMS THE CITY GIVES US THAT PREVENTS US FROM DOING OUR JOB. MAYBE THEN WILL 35TH ST. GIVE US SOME ANSWERS THAT MAKE SENSE AS OPPOSED TO A DAILY SHEET THAT TELLS ME DOPE GETS SOLD ON EVERY CORNER IN THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES. WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING BEFORE A FUNERAL IS THE CATALYST FOR CHANGE. <----FOP THAT MEANS YOU! OPEN YOUR MOUTHS AND AT LEAST SHOW ME SOME REASON I SHOULD BUCK UP TO YOU EVERY MONTH. FINALLY THANKS SCC FOR GIVING US A PLACE TO VENT, STAY SAFE AND SINCE I'M SOMEWHAT COMPUTER ILLITERATE SOMEONE FORWARD THIS TO THE PAPERS! EXCEPT MARY MITCHELL I'M SURE SHE'LL FIND SOME SORT OF "RACISM" ABOVE
Everyone that's bitching about 1 man cars needs to read the contract. Unles you volunteer to work 1-man, from sun down to sun up (3rd and 1st watches) cars are to be 2 man. That's where FOP should come in.
Are the E/T's getting an "escort" when they respopnd to jobs in the affected area?
11/11/2006 05:38:44 PM
"to 1:20:33 - The Watch Commander balances the D.O.G. for the watch. We are short manpower. Deal with it. Not the supervisor's fault we don't have people. Weekends are going to be thinner becuase that's when people generally take time. Would you rather have the Watch Commander deny time for everyone because we are short and the cars have to be manned? Remember, personal days, BFD's, C.U., etc. can be denied for manpower reasons. Wait until that order comes down and see how you react. I know time and even personal days are denied a lot in some districts already. Ten days doesn't mean anything if the W/C say he has to man all cars 10-4. Not even grievable. We are short. That is a City of Chicago problem. The fact that we have so many units is the CPD's fault."
Is this the best answer that you can give me? It's the same old lame reasoning or plague that has been implanted in your brain. You keep on saying that we don’t have enough people. Let me tell you, yes we do have enough people. It’s how you utilized and balanced it. Now, now sir, you have to weigh it which one is more important for you. Is it the BFD, PD, CU etc or the safety of the officers that are working the streets? I never take time on a weekend because I know my fellow comrades need me the most on those days and if something did happen to them I wouldn’t have a clear conscience to go on. Even though I don’t like some of them, they are my brothers and sisters in blues!
If you are a supervisor or what ever then have your voice be heard. Be a true leader for the sake of the safety of your officers who work hard for you to make you look good. If you have to deny time due slips for the weekend, do so and tell them that they can only pick weekdays. I hope that the safety of the Officers are your utmost priority and they may go home to their loves ones everyday.
Now you ASSHOLE P.O.’s who intentionally take time in the weekend and who care less to what happen to your fellow comrades. I hope your day will come when one day you’re by yourself and no one’s there to back you up because too many people took time that day.
Friday and Saturday is the best day for me to go to work. I always look forward to it, a busy day and makes it interesting and goes by fast.
Off topic SCC, But I am so pissed about political correctness.
Today is Veterans' day. A day to remember and celebrate those who have given us the freedom to have what we have today. To have our material possessions, our freedom to type on this blog, or freedom to go to church tomorrow, our freedom to eat where we want, to drink where we want, and hopefully to bring her back after the drinks and have sex with who we want. I'm watching Channel 2 tonight and I see that one of our Chicago Public Schools was marching and signing to honor the African American Veterans during the Vetarans Day Parade. All well and good, but what the fuck? Don't they all deserve the same respect. Black, white, asian, latino, etc... If you are a veteran, you deserve our respect for that. You are the reason we have the freedoms we enjoy today. Why the hell would you try to devide us on a day that we celebrate those who give their lives so that we can have the freedom of choice to be united no matter what are backrounds? I HATE THIS FUCKING CITY!. Second: I'm watching Channnel 5 and I see the opening of the Macey's window and the official start of the CHRISTMAS (meaning the day we celebrate the birth of Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) season. What does the arrival of Santa Clause (off of a bus I think?) bring, the sound of him saying, "Happy Holidays to all...." Are you fucking kidding me? Happy Holidays? Are you so worried about offending the Non-Christians who, most of all celebrate a form of Christmas (economically anyway) no matter what and have for Centuries? Oh my God, someone said Merry Christmas. Sorry kids, there is no God, there was no Jesus, and your not getting shit for that religious holiday. Go tell your friends that, not only do you not believe in God, but you hate everyone that does and refuse to celebrate a holiday that does. Tell them that you (not us, your father and mother) will work on any religious holidays for the same pay as normal and never take off because of one. 3rd: The "police brutality" video on U-Tube that is being picked up and touted on the most news networks? Where was the brutality? He was clearly resisting, the officer did punch him and you can clearly see that the offender is not complying and using force through his movements on his arms to defeat the arrest, and there is no strikes after they finally get him handcuffed. Oh wait, you didn't see him get cuffed and that he was still fighting and the police were not beating his ass after he was cuffed (because he was cuffed and restrained.) The video was only for 19 seconds of a 5 minute battle to arrest a convicted felon nor did you see the trial where he was found guilty....
4th: Mary Mitchell the other day talking about how the police (nice how she mixes U I C Police with CPD in the same article blaming CPD) framed the poor black kid who just happened to be wearing a R.O.T.C Uniform and there was no way a person (actually a U I C or CPD police officer) could identify him as one of the offenders just because the officer saw him do it and run away. Yep, That's what we do. Frame the poor black kid for something that, according to her own paper and most other liberal fucking rags, wasn't committed by a black person. If it was, I'm sure they would have told the public that 5 African American subjects were the offenders in a the brutal beating of a white honor student.
I have vented enough for one week I think..... Stay safe. Do your job and lock up the fucking pussy gang bangers for anything you can think of. New Breeds my ass. Call them cell brothers or worm food.....That's it.
TO 11/11/2006 10:00:51pm
Glad to see smart(I cant spell intelligent), civilized citizens are w/us. Im not at all insulted by your response. Most of my friends are non POs.
I care along w/lots of my PO friends about your saftey and piece of mind.U do in fact pay too much in taxes/tribute(fines)..
The men & women in the marked cars feel(and seems true) they are doing 95% of the work in this city.10 years ago(on the watches), they had more bodies than cars.
If your a connected businessman, somebody like u needs to get the word to this soon to re-elected mayor that he is trashing this PD in a hurry. Anybody w/half a brain knows the media is an out of control lethal animal and that isnt Daley's fault.That aside, he still has obligations to us.
We have a corrupt(totally not u civilians fault/problem)union that wont stand up for us. Next, our PENSIONS are not secured, because Daley isnt paying his end and is using OUR money for his ventures.Miriam Santos paid a hell of a price for protecting our funds. It was in the papers; the pension is scheduled to "tank" in 15-20 years. This is crap for morale. If u have no real money invested in the city, I suggest u sell and indeed move west(St.Charles).The future is bleak hear. If your money is here then the rank & file needs business men like u to get the message to this f*ckn moron.
By the way, thanks for offering lunch; its appreciated, not needed; just get the message to the "stuttering pr*ck"!!!!
How about we get a red team together! Take care of those gangbanger assholes ourselves! I am sure our department is loaded with people capabale of takin care of business. Cline here is your opportunity to use your clout to get together the elite officers that you command! Give the order chief! Or are you going to let those little thug boys rule your city and bend you over! Cline needs to assemble and release the hounds! If Cline has the balls to do what needs to be done, manpower means nothing! I would rather see a hundred dead gangbangers and felons than one more police officer dead! How bout you Mr. Cline. Does he think that maybe they may decide to take out the big cheeze instead of one of us!!! HHHHMMMM
When an identified entity (new breeds) makes a viable threat to hurt P.O.'s, the police need to step up and make sure that they never do that again, let alone let a P.O. get hurt. Do what you have to do to be REAL police. Lock up any new breed that you see. For ANYTHING. Back in the day, the police knew how to be the police. Nowadays, I feel sorry for you. All that PC crap and CAPS do NOT work! The scum have no fear of the police anymore. Until they do, this is the kind of shit that's going to happen.
The solution is a simple one, hire more people and give us the tools we need to fight this war. our 9mm just dont cut it any more, how bout some real fire power maybe an mp5, or an ar-15...
It is only going to get worse. The animals do not fear the police like 15-20 years ago.
Now with the democrats in power they will give these animals $$$ like the when they gave it to the black stone rangers for "socical programs".
Remember, all the banger's are honor students, according to our fine media when they are killed.
I want to know why our mayor is not held accountable for anything. Does he not think that he has to answer for anything. If this city were a business he would have been forced out. He just tells us how he is fixing things when they are brought to his attention. He must have his head in the sand since he never knows anything. It is impossible to believe he knows nothing about any of the problems surrounding his administration. And if by some small chance this is true he must be an idiot and no wonder why he could not pass the bar exam on his first.
...Decapitating districts personel through-out the city, in order to create all of these prickly ass specialized do nothing units...
Decapitating? LOL
THE NEW BREEDS ARE A GANG OF TOUGH TALK PUSSIES. WE WILL NEVER BE OVERCOME BY THEM OR FEAR THEM. THEY HAVE NO HONOR.
Portion of WBBM story.
Local News
Posted: Wednesday, 01 November 2006 10:12AM
New Breed Gang Reportedly Has 'Bounty' On Police
CHICAGO (STNG) -- The New Breed street gang reportedly has a “bounty” on Chicago police officers, vowing to kill six officers in retaliation for the fatal shooting of two of their alleged members Monday afternoon at a Humboldt Park intersection, according to a police source.
Police trying to stop a gang-ordered execution shot two men and wounded a third after one of them reportedly pointed an AK-47 semiautomatic rifle at officers.
The gang has declared they want to “get even” and have placed a “bounty” on police, saying they intend to kill six officers, according to an unnamed police source.
The New Breed street gang has steadily increased their presence especially in the last five years on the West Side, according to the source.
“They’re trying to take over the territory’’ to control major “dope spots,” the source said.
Members of the New Breed street gang were in a stolen car on their way to commit a murder when gang intelligence officers attempted to stop the suspects at the intersection of Augusta and Kedzie, Police Supt. Phil Cline said.
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whats with the 2 personals and a lunch,, you have as many personal's as you need, unless general orders has been changed
I notice the new kids saying that all the time about thier 2 personals. I know I haven't read the order in a few years but let me know if I'm mistaken on this one. If general order is better than labor laws, then general order supercede. Also squad can't deny you a personal, nor is there really a 15 min clock on it. Yes the system is set up that way, but if you need more time you have a right to it. If under the weather and you tell your sgt. I'm going to need ten pers today, you can.
Correct me if Im wrong on this, and if so, throw the g'o # at me that has been ammended. Peace
Squad.
Ps You should always work under the assumption there is a sniper out to get you, because there is.
Every job and traffic stop you go on has that factored in.
MY SUGGESTION TO ALL SERGEANTS...
DO NOT go on your PDT and start 19-Pauling the "Bullshit Jobs".
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
I have been saying that to my coworkers oec for years! Don't over stack, don't file, don't hide jobs. We are just covering up the mismanaged, understaffed joke of system and allowing the bosses to take all the glory for a "great" system, while eating CR#s and eating days, for delay of service, "lost" jobs, errors in duping and stacking, so are the units in the field. Time ALL the working shirts stuck together on this one. The public needs to know the truth and quit blaming the lacky worker for management's half witted decisions. ,,, SCC thanks for the blog.
fed up squad.
It appears that many of the games that "Phat Phil" has played to make himself look good are finally catching up to him.
Emptying the Districts of manpower was short sided at best, empowering TRU and SOS led to scandals, driving out the old timers and their experience bad news.
Did anyone see the promo on #2 yesterday during the football games where they said they will be reporting on how games are played with the homicide count?
Another scandal?
0447
Hey my fellow brother. You ain't missing a thing. Halloween,
zone8(006/004)had 7 - 8 pages of pending jobs. To the MEDIA thats 39 jobs per page. Get this my southsiders
zone9 (005/022) had 5 pages at one point!
1 page of inprogess!
You know who's fault it is? Mine and yours. I didn't dispatch fast enough to invisible cars and you didn't get in the invisible leer jet to respond. Take care out there :) who luvs ya baby ? squaaaaaaaad
Hey Northside, is it true you responded to the Great Chicago Fire and coded it out with a 19-Paul ? Please take your senior ass to a nearby nursing home and check yourself in.
To: 11/11/2006 10:00:51 PM
Mr Lincoln Park citizen,
Since you called me a jerk I will return the favor by calling you a moron.
The sole purpose of the SORT car is to be available for incindents like the one that is causing these shit head gang banger to threating the police. That incident is when a moron has a high power gun like a AK47. The SORT car was a repsonse to the bank robbery that everyone see's on the tv from LA when the police are sevrerly out gunned.
I also live in LP and like to see the police around but have never heard of or seen any report of people running around LP with AK47's. And all though poeple will deny it the are shit birds here in there in LP.
Now if you where the police you would have the information that pertains to this post. You would know where these two gangs are and who the are threating.
There are targeting police in a certain area and that area is not LP. Myself being the police and working in that area has a right to be pissed off when I see a specialy equiped car with guns that I am not allowed to carry rooming around a safe area by Chicago standards. You not being the police and not knowing the situation have no right to call me a jerk.
Some more info for you LP: The 18th, 19th, and 23rd district manpower blows away and manpower in any of these other districts. You might not think so but there are more police (bodies) in those districts. whether the work hard or not I do not know, bitch to the commander of your district about the crime.
As well, that ticked put on your car is not done by the police it is done by the department of revenue and a private company contracted out to ticket cars. They know exactly what days and what streets are being cleaned or worked on and head there on those days.
When you get some facts come back and talk to me.
That guy that posted at 10"00:51 was spot on. Don't bemoan the fact that a SORT car was driving around in Lincoln Park. I used to work in Lincoln Park. I now work on the highly vaunted westside. Let me tell you this. We have no friends on the west or south sides. We have an abundance of friends in Lincoln Park and the surrounding area. One of the things I miss about working in L.P is the friendly wave from a citizen as I passby. Now I get a wave from the citizens but it's aways from an amputee cause they only have one finger. I miss walking into a coffee shop and having an unknown citizen thanking me for what I do and buying me a cup of joe, or when I went to lunch and when I would ask for the bill, the waitress would tell me that it was already paid for. I miss going to a community meeting during which the community would award various Officers with a nice plaque for doing something that we consider routine but they thought was extraordinary. Now when I go to a community meeting, all I hear are threats,complaints, people screaming,yelling and making more demands. I miss working in an area where the victims are real victims and not tommorrows offenders. I miss working in an are where the residents actually work hard at something other than selling dope, pay outrageous taxes, are generally good people and appreciate me being there. Where I work now I'm hated, considered a part of an occupying force, to be spoken to only when THEY need something, a slave who MUST bow to thier every whim or desire.
If you gave this matter any thought, you to would agree with that SORT car being L.P. They should be there as well as other places, places like 008,016,017 or 022. Places where the residents actually like the Police and pay taxes. I say lets give our services to the people in those areas that pay taxes and support us. The residents in the south and west sides are getting "million dollar service" and they could care less. Lets give the expertise that most of us have to those that want us, like us and respect us.
The west and south sides have some extremely competent Officers. They do an important and necessary job keeping the beast in check. But lets not beef about the people that actually do matter in the scheme of things getting a little something in return for thier "investment".
In response to all the "bullshit" calls that are dispatched, it is now up to administration to stop accepting these types of calls. Calls from cell phones are probally the most b.s. calls going. Dispatch has to give them out though. Example: the reckless driver that isn't dispatched for at least 20 minutes etc. Unfortunally, the beat car officer may be a dog, accept the call and stay down on it for 30 minutes "looking" for the car. It stuff like this that has to stop NOW. Or the neighbor complaint where watering the lawn is getting on their lawn. This is a disturbance???
Come on administration, smartin' up.
Yea FOP is fighting for us. What a joke. The street mutt threatens to kill us and we say nothing.
I say this. You want a gun fight asshole? Lets have at it. All of you knew the risk of this job when you took it. Now face reality. If there is a slight chance of a threat kill the fucker! Fuck daley and the rest of the ass licking politicians.
make ALL paper jobs walk ins or 311.. ALL even if they require a BS atttempt to get prints and so on.
all specialized units that ride 99 make them 10-4 (k-9, ET's so on)
no 99 traffic stops.
be safeback each other up.
work like CFD hang in one place and when dispatched go together.
F THE new breeds and ALL YOU fn SHITHEAD GANGS..COME GET SOME!!!! FILLMORE96!!
use sos, tru, narc. etc. to target this gang.....that is what they are for ! this nonsense should be over by now.
when all those gangbangers come back from war the district police might be needing some rifles as well as counter ambush training.
Anonymous said...
I was glad to see one of the SORT cars driving around Lincoln Park today doing nothing while all these threats of killing the Police on the westside by these shit head gang bangers.
As always excellent use of police resources
11/11/2006 04:12:46 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am glad that Lincoln Pk has a car, any car.
Yesterday, I witnessed an 008th Dist. beat car leaving the White Hen in Skummit at appox. 5:00 PM.
What - we don't have White Hen's in Chicago? No 7-11 to go to here in Chicago?
008th Dist - Bt. 811/812 are the worst in the city.
These guys that work 1st, 2nd or 3rd watch do not want to patrol the west end. They want to pick up chicks in the suburbs.
Hello?
Are there any 008th Dist supervisors are there?
Is there any accountablity in the 008th Dist.?
taxpayer,
i totally agree with you.
this dept. is run short by city hall at the expense of the honest residents in low violent crime areas. i suppose those in power consider the property crime you suffer to be the price of urban living.
from the second you dial 911 to the time police on the street get a radio dispatch is 5 min. i know this because i have been 1/2 block away many times. most of the time the police are further away or maybee even in a backlog.
you get lousy police service for your tax dollars and are prohibited from owning a handgun for self defense.
good luck sir,
10:46 PM, 10:55 PM & 6:28 AM:
JEALOUS???
You are so transparent, fool.
As a copper, you couldn't make a patch on Northside's ass.
IM IN T R U AND WE HAVE BEEN IN 015 FOR THE PAST WEEK. THEY JUST TOLD US YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS.............. SO WE ARE NOW TARGETING THEM!
"Now you ASSHOLE P.O.’s who intentionally take time in the weekend and who care less to what happen to your fellow comrades. I hope your day will come when one day you’re by yourself and no one’s there to back you up because too many people took time that day."
Lighten up Francis....many of us have families. Family functions for everyone but police, fire, hospital staff are usually held on weekends. This is a job, nothing more, nothing less. I respect the fact that you place your "comrades" in high regard but I do place my family on a higher rung. I want to collect as many pension checks as possible when it's my time to pull the plug. Have a life outside of the job, I don't want to see someone like you only enjoy 6 months of retirement and have a grabber.
To one and all, go home the same way you went to work.
If I were to drop the N bomb, meaning call someone a N****R. It would be front page news. I would be an outcast. Geez I cant even type the stupid word anymore.
However, a street gang of thugs state a POLICE OFFICER WILL DIE and nothing is said on the news.
Its time to huddle and regroup. Let the streets go wild. Why do you knuckleheads go out on a limb for a city that doesnt care just amazez me. I know your heart is in the right place but we need to stay together. Let the goofy Sgt's run around and 19p everything. It will catch up to them. If you want the News Media to get involved you have to make it juicy.
Answer your calls. Give over and above the need for Police Service. Write a report for every little thing you can and take your time but be efficient.
Let the calls constipate the system. It worked for our friends in N.Y.. We bitch and bitch and moan yet we do nothing to help ourselves. Forget FOP. Im sorry but they are sleeping with the irish capone mayor.
You want change??? Its right in front of you. But kissing ass and doing stupid stuff isnt the answer. You must beat these assholes at their own game.
Just stop and do the bare minimum. stop and let go. Just do your job and within 1 month it will change. But we must all be on the same page.
I know that's impossible but we can achieve change if at least 65% of us stay together.
to 03:51, you do have time to make arrests. The calls can wait, our job is to enforce the law, meaning if warranted, make the arrest. This is the problem today with our dept. The sgts. practically tell you, don't make an arrest. The fact is, if they ORDER you not to make an arrest, well then it's on them if the criminal goes out and commits a crime on someone else.
"...Friday and Saturday is the best day for me to go to work. I always look forward to it, a busy day and makes it interesting and goes by fast."
11/12/2006 12:22:44 AM
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I'll raise one for you while enjoying my CU on Friday and
Saturday. Your dedication is inspirational. NOT!
Got to go, I have o put my slips in for next Friday and Saturday.
While some units have "dead weight", many are very hardworking. I worked in Gangs for several years and we worked very hard. Many days off switched, hours changed, 4 am starts and many 10 hour days with no slip put in. We did wire taps, search warrants, gang business investigations,COHs, etc. District officers would not have the time to perform the tasks (but I'm sure they could if trained). My Sgt works many long hours and is never really off, fielding calls from bosses/CIs all day. I have never worked so hard as I did in Gangs. We enjoyed what we did and were glad to do it. I just wanted to throw that out there with all the unit "bashing". Stay safe!
Hey 11/12/2006 06:28:08 AM: In defense of us "older" guys I must take the blame for 19P at the Chicago Fire. Northside was covering for me. You see, the Fire was started because Mrs. O'Leary's cow kicked the lantern over while I was having bestial relations with it. We got horny in those days and didn't have hair gel or face cream to wow the ladies (Mrs. O’Leary herself wouldn't sleep with me and she was, as we used to say back in the day, born with "unfortunate" looks).
So, whippersnapper, keep playing the youth card but note how us geezers backed each other up, even when one of us was cow-f*&%#ing! Gotta go, this has made me horny and some young meat just moved into the retirement home. I see she owns a poodle!
Hey SCC, incorrect info on SOS workin in area 4/5 this weekend.We've been south 006/022/007/009 all weekend despite the "threats". Don't know why they don't send us to 010/011.
Anonymous said...
11/11/2006 05:38:44 PM
"to 1:20:33 - The Watch Commander balances the D.O.G. for the watch. We are short manpower. Deal with it. Not the supervisor's fault we don't have people. Weekends are going to be thinner becuase that's when people generally take time. Would you rather have the Watch Commander deny time for everyone because we are short and the cars have to be manned? Remember, personal days, BFD's, C.U., etc. can be denied for manpower reasons. Wait until that order comes down and see how you react. I know time and even personal days are denied a lot in some districts already. Ten days doesn't mean anything if the W/C say he has to man all cars 10-4. Not even grievable. We are short. That is a City of Chicago problem. The fact that we have so many units is the CPD's fault."
Is this the best answer that you can give me? It's the same old lame reasoning or plague that has been implanted in your brain. You keep on saying that we don’t have enough people. Let me tell you, yes we do have enough people. It’s how you utilized and balanced it. Now, now sir, you have to weigh it which one is more important for you. Is it the BFD, PD, CU etc or the safety of the officers that are working the streets? I never take time on a weekend because I know my fellow comrades need me the most on those days and if something did happen to them I wouldn’t have a clear conscience to go on. Even though I don’t like some of them, they are my brothers and sisters in blues!
If you are a supervisor or what ever then have your voice be heard. Be a true leader for the sake of the safety of your officers who work hard for you to make you look good. If you have to deny time due slips for the weekend, do so and tell them that they can only pick weekdays. I hope that the safety of the Officers are your utmost priority and they may go home to their loves ones everyday.
Now you ASSHOLE P.O.’s who intentionally take time in the weekend and who care less to what happen to your fellow comrades. I hope your day will come when one day you’re by yourself and no one’s there to back you up because too many people took time that day.
Friday and Saturday is the best day for me to go to work. I always look forward to it, a busy day and makes it interesting and goes by fast.
11/12/2006 12:22:44 AM
Hey, jagnuts GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! I'm an asshole, because I want to spend time with my loved ones. Why be at work on Sat. or Sun. when I can have fun with my kids. If your single your gonna stay single. But if your married w/ kids GOD help you because with your attitude you won't stay married.
Signed ASSHOLE WHO TAKES TIME OFF!
Phil Cline devotes huge resources to getting dope off the street. All this does is benefit the dope dealers by keeping the price up. There is ALWAYS another dealer and there is ALWAYS more dope. Fuck these dope fiends. If they want to fuck up their lives, let them.
Cline should devote our resources to the safety of his patrol officers and to the honest citizens of Chicago. Having a huge backlog of calls is an immediate problem for the patrol officers and the taxpayer who is calling for help. Cline has made a pact with the devil, he’ll play his dope games all day long UNTIL a “Woman calling for help” call goes unanswered for 45 minutes and she is found murdered.
I agree with all who want to cut down the CAPS office. I for one know of a north side district closer to the lake that has like 10-15 well endowed girlies manning the office who do absolutely nothing all day except steal unmarked cars so they can go to lunch and get their nails done, without wearing those icky contraptions known as guns, because they for one refuse to do what they were hired for, police work. I say send em all out let them bitch and moan and then quit so we can rehire some real deserving people who want to do the job not just pass out coloring books!
I would advise a work slow down till these problems are solved.
11/11/2006 02:44:24 PM
YOU BEST READ YOUR CONTRACT IMMIDIATE FIRING AND NO UNION PROTECTION FOR ANYONE ADVOCATING A JOB ACTION. HOPE YOU ARE VERY CARFUL WHO YOU VOICE THIS OPINION TO
We already have SOS, so we don't really need the baby SOS. Or even disband SOS. Two of the same type of units make absolutely no sense
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ONE IS STOCKED WITH POLITICAL HEAVIES WHO DO LITTLE TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTANCE AND THE OTHER IS NEW KIDS WHO GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE HOPING TO GET TO SOS
Dump Mayor STUMPYSTOOGE, give Cline, the gold stars, and the FOP a week to shape up or ship out, and turn the"old school" guys loose on these chump gang bangers. Things will get straightened out REAL fast. It will also keep the paramedics, hospital ER's, and the morgue busy with mangled gangbangers.
You are completely STUPID if you do not take all precautions before going into any situation. If there is ANY doubt in your mind, CALL FOR, and WAIT FOR, Backup Units, as many as it takes to be safe....
I don't want to go to any more of my CPD brothers or sisters Funerals, or my own either, for that matter.
Please be safe out there #1, all else is now bullshit, till this City and the Mayor gets its head out of its ASS, once and for ALL.
To the person asking about Verizon discount, yes they do...I think it is 18% off a month, but you have to jump through a few hoops with paperwork and phone calls to get it. Definately worth it!
Emptying the Districts of manpower was short sided at best, empowering TRU and SOS led to scandals, driving out the old timers and their experience bad news.
TRU has nothing to do with the SOS scandal, TRU is supervised, please don't compare the two in that regard, SOS is NOW supervised closely......
Did anyone see the promo on #2 yesterday during the football games where they said they will be reporting on how games are played with the homicide count?
All this is the media not knowing how crimes are classified, making something a death investigation until cause of death is know, then upgraded, nothing is being hidden there, it's the first thing detectives are taught- it's easier to upgrade than downgrade. It's obvious the assault on the police continue, they obviously have nothing newsworthy going on.
To the guy who said time due should only be given on weekdays and we should not want to take Saturdays or Sundays off, are you kidding me? You must not have any family or friends, kids or a spouse who works normal hours. A lot of parties and events happen on weekends and to expect that any of us shouldn't want to go to them is ridiculous and unrealistic. We work a crazy schedule as it is missing most holidays, and then you say we should feel guilty for not wanting to work some Satudays or Sundays because we screw over our fellow officers? It's the city's responsibility to get the manpower to what it should be. We are not screwing our fellow officers, the city is. If you're not a white shirt, you're one in the making and God help us all if we have to report to you.
To 11/11/06 11:07:05P.M. "a do nothing unit" As one of the two or three who post on this site, I can see that you are not stupid, since you speak of writing styles. Whatever unit you are in, I trust that you are one of the people who is hard working and intellegent and earned his or her spot. I too have been in specialized units and have had "good" jobs, and you are correct that it is the same tiger only with different stripes, and many of those jobs are not all that they are cracked up to be. I still lock people up, enjoy the job, and believe me my life does not suck. Yes, every district and unit has its workers and dogs, and some of us are doing great things, but that does not change the fact that we in district law enforcement are critically short of people, and one big reason is the proliferation of specialized units that has occurred under this administration.
Does anyone know if Verizon Wireless offers a discount to CPD?
Yes they do,I have mine under the CPD plan,you have to ask for it.
Friday and Saturday is the best day for me to go to work. I always look forward to it, a busy day and makes it interesting and goes by fast.
11/12/2006 12:22:44 AM
You are moron, and I have a family, plus a life. Im not to take CU or a P-day on the weekends???? Blame the city for this man power shortage not a PO taking time due. Lets see be at work on a Saturday or be out with my family??? The choice is simple.
The Plan
Okay, here's the plan: Back off and let those men who want to marry men,
marry men.
Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
In three generations, there will be no Democrats!!!
Damn, I love it when a plan comes together!
Let's back each other up! I worked TARA in 003 3rd watch recently the roll call at 1500 was maybe 9 total! They gave me a 1 man car put me at 6231 Calumet, the WC told me "Don't go on any jobs in building alone". I parked 2 blocks away and kept looking around! We are so short officers everywhere! the blame should fall 100% on daley he is the one responsible for allowing our budget to be cut! But he has a huge contingent of officer all being paid huge D-3 pay plus overtime! Maybe they should work the streets!
To Lincoln Park citizen, 11/11/2006 10:00:51 PM
I am not a cop. I am a city employee and live on the northwest side. I have had my garage broken into , not once , but 3 times, my home burglarized , my car vandalized 2 times, property tagged by a great artistic gang banger. I also pay taxes. Send your complaints to your alderperson and the mayor. There is a serious shortage of police officers city-wide. I have dispatched on every zone and on all watches (shifts). The city does not understaff your high priced yuppie naborhood. Because the high volume of crime in the west and south sides is constantly in the news, you think the city puts more police in the ghetto! Get out of your glass house.... get out of the city ... take your 12,000 tax dollars with you ....we won't miss it or your whining!
PS.......don't forget ...it's the law .......LEASH YOUR DOG & PICK UP THE DOGGIE POOP ....your nabors are complaining about you!
Look at the ammo they give us? We would be lucky to nick an offender! They only worry about the press as they give out huge sums in settlements the corp counsel what a joke a bunch of lazy so called "Law clerks". how about daley gives some of the mulit-millions him and his friends stole in bogus contracts to the officers! Our pension is underfunded, medical will be non-existant in 2013 as it fades away every year. maybe we could force our alder-theif into term limits, and 63 and out as many of these old codgers have lost any sense.
FOP=FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LIKE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA A FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION WITH CLOUT FOR THEIR NEEDS NOT OURS!
Anonymous said...
The Plan
Okay, here's the plan: Back off and let those men who want to marry men,
marry men.
Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
In three generations, there will be no Democrats!!!
Damn, I love it when a plan comes together!
11/12/2006 03:34:30 PM
This is one of the very reasons why I love coming here. It never fails that someone has me laughing my ass off.
Y'all are a riot.
Be safe out there...
What's with these guys and this Fillmore, Fillmore Ranger stuff. Fillmore closed in 1968 or 1969, and became Harrison. So they are Harrison Rangers. These people were not even a gleam in their fathers eyes when Fillmore close. There fathers were probly just in training pants when they closed.
A Wabash/Wentworth Vet.
IF YOU LET ME JUST PICK 50 GUYS THAT USE TO BE IN GANGS NORTH,WEST,AND SOUTH WE COULD END THIS SHIT IN 3-DAYS...AND FORGIVE THE TRR REPORTS...OH IM SORRY I WAS JUST DREAMING,THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO WANT THE SHIT HEADS RUNNING WILD...I/F FOREVER
This blog is great it lets all of us vent when we need to. But it is now the time to call your aldermen, write letters to the editors of all the newspapers, let everyone know how bad it really is. Let the people know that they are not getting the service their realestate taxes are paying for. Let everyone know that we do not have enough cops out there to cover the calls. Let them know the reason isnt because someone had a wedding to go to and took a night off. No it is becaus our wonderful mayor finds it more important to plant tulips then hire police.
We constantly moan about the different units in the department. who is better and who is a bigger dog. Stop it, unite. Let your voiced be heard. write letter after letter to the papers, to the tv stations, to every reporter out there. dont stop dont let up. have your spouses and parents and cousins call and write.
Let the city know they are not safe. Let them know their property is not safe. Let them know that because of the Mayor and
Aldermen we can not afford to police the city the way it should be. Hell we all saw it coming when Robbery stopped being a violent crime and got grouped with theft and burglary.
WRITE and CALL over and over sooner or later they will hear you.
Whoever is publishing the information about the SORT car deployment, knock it off.
To the knucklehead saying people taking time off on weekends ought to find another job, talk to us after your third or fourth marriage. Anyone who doesn't take time off ocassionally, especially on weekends, is someone who needs a hobby.
Northside - that rant about Mrs. O'Leary was just ... hell, we can't even describe it. Could we be a little less graphic? Damn! :)
off topic...how's narcotics ? Been asked to go to anet team ?? is it worth it ? would i be wrong to say no ?
Hey Northside, is it true you responded to the Great Chicago Fire and coded it out with a 19-Paul ? Please take your senior ass to a nearby nursing home and check yourself in.
Northside, you are one of my favorite posters, but goddamn, that was funny
To all the police officers on this site, I want to say thank you for doing such a demanding job. I must say though I find police service not at its best. I wish there were something I could do more to help. I live and work on the southside. My house has been broken into 3 times and my garage 5. My neighbors son was beaten by some black kids from the other side of city so bad he was in a coma for quite sometime. My next door neighbor is a police officer and so is his wife they are the nicest people you would care to meet. I know from first hand knowledge that they both work very hard. after reading some of things I have read here I think the biggest problem is that you all fight each other. I think that if you officers all got together and stuck together, you could run the city. No matter what the Mayor would have to say you guys would run the city. no one would ever tell you no. well thats enough out of me I will keep all you in prayers.
Sincerely karla
Verizon gives city of chgo emp disc to all municipal employees. Go to one of their main stores show Id and dl and they photocopy it and you're done. No major paperwork involved.
to 7:19:50
If you were I/F, you need to call a membership meeting. You and yours are likely the only thing that will bring morale back.
on a side note....
to 025 GALLOWS (retired),
Fuck You for not passing on the tradition. I know you work on a Mac, and most of the rest of us work on an ibm. None the less, you could/should have done something to facilitate the continuation of the Gallows.
Morale is at a low. There are plenty of us that have little chance of promotion (read as: first generation PO, no one knows us, no one owes us) that would be happy to carry the torch.
>>>>> To the 11/12/2006 01:15:19PM Poster
Very true. The CTA is so fucked up that the trains run so late we end up walking home very late at night. I never see any beat cars and they're always a bunch of cars with weird men cruising by, some pulling over, etc.
I fell a few nights ago, hitting some debris under a patch of leaves and was down a few minutes. We're screwed god forbid we get shot, etc because nobody is ever around...
IF YOU LET ME JUST PICK 50 GUYS THAT USE TO BE IN GANGS NORTH,WEST,AND SOUTH WE COULD END THIS SHIT IN 3-DAYS...AND FORGIVE THE TRR REPORTS...OH IM SORRY I WAS JUST DREAMING,THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO WANT THE SHIT HEADS RUNNING WILD...I/F FOREVER
11/12/2006 07:19:50 PM
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Nearly all of us are long gone in gangs. Let the savages have the south and west sides. Fat Phil could care less for the working p.o.' and dick's of this dept. Let him get his fat ass back on the street.
Let's back each other up! I worked TARA in 003 3rd watch recently the roll call at 1500 was maybe 9 total! They gave me a 1 man car put me at 6231 Calumet, the WC told me "Don't go on any jobs in building alone". I parked 2 blocks away and kept looking around! We are so short officers everywhere! the blame should fall 100% on daley he is the one responsible for allowing our budget to be cut! But he has a huge contingent of officer all being paid huge D-3 pay plus overtime! Maybe they should work the streets!
11/12/2006 03:34:44 PM
The correct address of that building is 6217 s calumet, and it is is basically the HQ of the BD's. to be a 99 car at a fixed post there is insane. When we had a fixed post there from housing, it was a van with 8 PO'S in front, and a three man car in back. the world can come crashing down on you realy fast over there. Trust me , I have seen it happen.
I am shocked that the city even cared enough to double up cars on calls do to the recent threats that the vice lords and gd's have teamed up together and vowed to kill a Chicago Police Officer.
Im not shocked at all that the city would want us to stand out in the street like little ducks at a carnival waiting to be gunned down WHILE DOING THE EVER SO IMPORTANT SEAT BELT MISSION.
If a good citizen was looking to purchase a AR, who makes the best??
How much could one expect to pay.
Any suggestions, please.
Stay safe CPD, and anyother LEO's out there.
11/11/2006 04:35:11 PM
Bushmaster, About a thousand bucks each.
to (i/f candidate waiting for a bid) at 11/12/2006 11:38.51pm. I don't have a Mac (evidently you have me mixed up with someone else).I tried to pass on the torch. After seeing what the Department put me through, no one had the balls to take over. I'd be happy to sit down with you. Contact SCC, they have my email.
Cline has made a pact with the devil, he’ll play his dope games all day long UNTIL a “Woman calling for help” call goes unanswered for 45 minutes and she is found murdered.
11/12/2006 01:15:19 PM
Yeah, then the family sues the bt. officer who didn't get there fast enough. Cline should personally be named in every one of these lawsuits, let's see if things change then>
If we put Daley and Burkes valets back in uniform on the street we could give partners to about 15 one man cars
I don't know what you two last posters were talking about. the 6217 SO. Calumet building was permanently closed a little over 2 weeks ago. Fully closed!!
Hey Gallows - e-mail us again. We lost alot of e-mail addresses. And we might be interested in backing a print version of The Gallows along the lines of this site :)
Hasn't anyone figured it out yet?? the mayor and cline do not care about the taxpayers of this city. they only care about the mopes that live in the DOC. example--triple homicide in 006 (not in the DOC), nothing was done about like more police presence in that area, a mission, etc, etc. but a shitbag gangbanger is shot in the leg (in the DOC) and guess what? per the w/c and lt police presence and activity in the affected area. i guess tyrone getting shot is more important than 3 elderly people getting killed. so for all you peoples that live in bts 2211 811 or any other white area watch your house, your garage, and your car because the police aren't there doing it. why should they theyre too busy protecting the non taxpayers
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ONE IS STOCKED WITH POLITICAL HEAVIES WHO DO LITTLE TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTANCE AND THE OTHER IS NEW KIDS WHO GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE HOPING TO GET TO SOS
LOL believe this, nobody is interested in going to SOS, the people there are trying to leave as it is.....lol
Maybe beat 812/13 are making friends w/the hookers in scummit along 63rd
Anonymous said...
If we put Daley and Burkes valets back in uniform on the street we could give partners to about 15 one man cars
11/13/2006 11:32:57 AM
Probably a lot more than that!!
First and foremost.....
{NOT VERIFIED*, but believable]
Those people that sell 'accidental' injury insurance to CPD and CFD [I think it's Combined Ins. Co. or something of that nature] related some heartwarming news * again not verified...but:
That {RIP, Brother} Maywood copper trhat was assasinated most recently took out that policy {$20 bucks a month} paid ONLY the first first month before he made the 'Ultimate Sacrifice.'
That insurance company has an indemnity clause for death that paid his widow [5 kids] $50,000.00 for that 20 dollar [paid] investment.
Taking into account that all stated is true...well, that insurance co. needs to have some positive recognition.
Stay Safe, Remember That THIN BLUE LINE...
to karla:
thank you for your kind words, you did'nt go unoted. we all appreciate it. from a p.o. on the northwestside. p.s. happy holidays to you and your family.
To gallows,
I work with "part" of SCC. He has my e-mail address.
If you need a SORT team "catchy name aint it"? Your going to need it in the first 2 mins of the fight, not 10 mins after the first bullets whiz thru your car. I was in a shooting once where they didnt show up until we had searched the building, found the shooter, and the entire thing was long over.
It aint their fault. Its just the way it is. Nobody has a crystal ball.
But lets face it. Our shit is in the wind out there. You train and do what you can to survive but basically our shit is in the wind.
""IF THE POLICE OF THE CITY AREN'T SAFE.....WHO IN THE CITY IS ? """
Nobody. Thats who! Least of all us in the BT cars.
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